morningsong said:

So does this stay in probate court or if this moves forward does it move to another court while they began closing out the heir issues?

NPG Music filed today (Tuesday) in Federal Court against Roc Nation for copyright infringement.

This lawsuit will not be heard in the Estate case.

But Roc Nation filed a claim in the Estate case stating it had the right to two albums plus an unreleased album, and exclusive streaming rights of P's music.

It is getting ugly and complicated.

http://www.startribune.com/judge-bars-mixed-blood-theatre-s-claim-against-prince-estate/401533945/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting, "The special administrator for the trust in charge of Prince's estate has barred Mixed Blood Theatre's $348,000 claim resulting from a canceled benefit at Paisley Park." The event was to have occurred in May, 2016. The theatre's artistic director said that this is "a procedural thing" and that their lawyers will be in touch with the estate's lawyers.

Any word yet on the ST unsealed papers?

It has been quiet on the Estate side. Next Friday is Corey Simmons last day to submit documents to prove primie facie.

I guess with the holidays, maybe the next few weeks will be slow and not much happening.

Entire list of public filings for PRN & Mani's divorce (Star Tribune case attached.)

http://pa.courts.state.mn...fault.aspx

the case number (27-FA-06-3597)


Entire list of public filings for PRNs Probate Case

http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx

Not a thing new has happened as of this moment.

bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/judge-bars-mixed-blood-theatre-s-claim-against-prince-estate/401533945/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting, "The special administrator for the trust in charge of Prince's estate has barred Mixed Blood Theatre's $348,000 claim resulting from a canceled benefit at Paisley Park." The event was to have occurred in May, 2016. The theatre's artistic director said that this is "a procedural thing" and that their lawyers will be in touch with the estate's lawyers.

Interesting that this is all they are reporting on after the nonsense with the divorce file.

nelcp777 said:

Any word yet on the ST unsealed papers?

It has been quiet on the Estate side. Next Friday is Corey Simmons last day to submit documents to prove primie facie.

I guess with the holidays, maybe the next few weeks will be slow and not much happening.

I still think this is the reaon the Nelson divorce was sealed.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/11/17/mariah-carey-nick-cannon-divorce-settlement-money/

Who would want the whole world to know there net worth.

A new order posted today clarifying heir claims that were denied and who shall undergo DNA testing:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Special-Administrator-s-Determination-Regarding-Genetic-Testing.pdf

Brianna and VN have been selected for DNA testing, which stuck me as odd, since they were excluded on a prior ruling.

In addtion, Corey Simmons submitted evidence to prove prima facie. Interesting documents and depositions to read. The birth certificate (unless I missed it) did not list Duane as the father, only the mother was listed:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Exhibits-Affidavit-of-Andrew-Lehner-Supporting-Memorandum-Presenting-Prima-Facie-Evidence.pdf

There are 2 Dobsons, Sonja and Antonio who submited heir claims as decedents of Prince. The SA has noted that the claims were not notarized and lack of evidence for possible conception. Anyone know who these 2 are?

nelcp777 said:

laurarichardson said:

Goodness, there's a lot in those recent prima facie.

laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

A new order posted today clarifying heir claims that were denied and who shall undergo DNA testing:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Special-Administrator-s-Determination-Regarding-Genetic-Testing.pdf

Brianna and VN have been selected for DNA testing, which stuck me as odd, since they were excluded on a prior ruling.

In addtion, Corey Simmons submitted evidence to prove prima facie. Interesting documents and depositions to read. The birth certificate (unless I missed it) did not list Duane as the father, only the mother was listed:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Exhibits-Affidavit-of-Andrew-Lehner-Supporting-Memorandum-Presenting-Prima-Facie-Evidence.pdf

There are 2 Dobsons, Sonja and Antonio who submited heir claims as decedents of Prince. The SA has noted that the claims were not notarized and lack of evidence for possible conception. Anyone know who these 2 are?

/-- These two maybe the names that were given to the courts by Tkya.

I also found another name in the file, Ryan Dodge, same situation as the Dobsons, rejected by SA for lack of notary and evidence of conception.

The SA used lack of requisite sexual contact for conception.

But you are right, they may be the 2 names dropped by Tyka.

morningsong said:

Goodness, there's a lot in those recent prima facie.

There is. There is also some evidence of the tension in this issue. Enemies was a word Norrine allegedly used to Corey, plus the comment on taking a long time for Duane's decendents to get their money.

I got the vibe that they depostions were looking at the lack of involvement in Corey trying to find Duance earlier and the timing of Corey seeking out any of the Nelson family.

nelcp777 said:

nelcp777 said:

laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said: /-- These two maybe the names that were given to the courts by Tkya.

I also found another name in the file, Ryan Dodge, same situation as the Dobsons, rejected by SA for lack of notary and evidence of conception.

The SA used lack of requisite sexual contact for conception.

But you are right, they may be the 2 names dropped by Tyka.

Nah, my suspicion is the two names dropped by the family didnt file claims.

They had DNA testing years ago.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

I also found another name in the file, Ryan Dodge, same situation as the Dobsons, rejected by SA for lack of notary and evidence of conception.

The SA used lack of requisite sexual contact for conception.

But you are right, they may be the 2 names dropped by Tyka.

Nah, my suspicion is the two names dropped by the family didnt file claims.

They had DNA testing years ago.

Think so? What is your opinion on the results?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

I also found another name in the file, Ryan Dodge, same situation as the Dobsons, rejected by SA for lack of notary and evidence of conception.

The SA used lack of requisite sexual contact for conception.

But you are right, they may be the 2 names dropped by Tyka.

Nah, my suspicion is the two names dropped by the family didnt file claims.

They had DNA testing years ago.

Do you think Prince had two children that are being taken care of by a trust or some sort of settlement agreement? Do you think the work product his divorce lawyers had would have anything to do with something of this nature? We noticed that Omarr paid some sort of fee at the M2 divorce paper case do you think family members are involved with these children but the children are under agreement to keep quiet and out of sight?

laurarichardson said:

CooperC62057 said:

laurarichardson said:

Do you think Prince had two children that are being taken care of by a trust or some sort of settlement agreement? Do you think the work product his divorce lawyers had would have anything to do with something of this nature? We noticed that Omarr paid some sort of fee at the M2 divorce paper case do you think family members are involved with these children but the children are under agreement to keep quiet and out of sight?

It certainly seems that ISLIJAG has been leaning in that direction for quite some time now.....is there something he/she is privy to that we arent? LR what could Omarr have paid a fee for in the divorce case?

I don't know but how many ex-in-laws are hanging around like he is. He was in the film about the the school in Africa and now he is paying fees in her case. I have to think he is representing the family in the school case because maybe Prince put money in her charity. I don't see what that would have to do with the divorce even if her settlement had some tie to her charitiy. Why would she want to keep that a secret? Something is going on and I am courious to know how they are keeping the divorce papers from being made public. Could it be that the papers concern children and that is the reason they were not made public on the 14th? The judge seemed hell bent on making them public so what is going on.

laurarichardson said:

CooperC62057 said:

laurarichardson said: It certainly seems that ISLIJAG has been leaning in that direction for quite some time now.....is there something he/she is privy to that we arent? LR what could Omarr have paid a fee for in the divorce case?

I don't know but how many ex-in-laws are hanging around like he is. He was in the film about the the school in Africa and now he is paying fees in her case. I have to think he is representing the family in the school case because maybe Prince put money in her charity. I don't see what that would have to do with the divorce even if her settlement had some tie to her charitiy. Why would she want to keep that a secret? Something is going on and I am courious to know how they are keeping the divorce papers from being made public. Could it be that the papers concern children and that is the reason they were not made public on the 14th? The judge seemed hell bent on making them public so what is going on.

When the Judge decided to unseal the records, he knew every detail in them and did not find them a threat to M2 or P. In fact the Judge stated that M2 was creating her own media problems. As for Omar, there is no way that he could have gotten a copy of the records if the public can't get them UNLESS the Judge granted it. Just like always.... we just gotta wait N see.

So they ARE public now you just have to pay to see whatever is available to the public?

If that's the case then it might explain the silence from ST, there's nothing there newsworthy, just a bunch of "t" crossing and "i" dotting.

The 'prima facie' evidence is indeed interesting!

morningsong said:

Petition by Claire again wanting Bremer permanantly removed as administrator and herself appointed

to that position. Filed 11/18/2016

zenarose said:

Petition by Claire again wanting Bremer permanantly removed as administrator and herself appointed

to that position. Filed 11/18/2016

She just doesn't want to stop.

Sometimes our judicial system affords protection to the chronically insane ...

New documents released in regards to Corey Simmons is not genetically related to Duane via previous DNA test. In addition, Brianna and VN have evidence to prove Duane did not have a child relationship with Corey and that the mother of Corey knew Duane was not the father.

Interesting reading:

Brianna and VN's response and claims:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Response-of-Brianna-Nelson-and-VN-to-Memorandum-for-Presentation-of-Prima-Facie-Evidence_-11-22-16.pdf

DNA results:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Declaration-of-Deanna-Besbekos-LaPage_11-22-16.pdf

[Edited 11/23/16 7:28am]

nelcp777 said:

New documents released in regards to Corey Simmons is not genetically related to Duane via previous DNA test. In addition, Brianna and VN have evidence to prove Duane did not have a child relationship with Corey and that the mother of Corey knew Duane was not the father.

Interesting reading:

Brianna and VN's response and claims:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Response-of-Brianna-Nelson-and-VN-to-Memorandum-for-Presentation-of-Prima-Facie-Evidence_-11-22-16.pdf

DNA results:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Declaration-of-Deanna-Besbekos-LaPage_11-22-16.pdf

[Edited 11/23/16 7:28am]

Correction. The DNA test shows that Corey and Brianna do not have a common parent. It's possible that Brianna, may not be Duane's. It could be either way. This was a store bought DNA test. We don't know the chain of custody of the samples. How do we know that Briana did not submit someone else's DNA, for example? The court will have to order DNA tests of Duane's descendents as well as John's to prove a genetic relationship, and everyone will have to appear in person to submit samples. That's the only way to prove custody of the samples. In other words, the store bought DNA test will not hold up in court.

Now Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins (sp) is asking through an attorney for anything she gives to the court to be held as confidential and not released to the public. That filing is dated yesterday. She's the one who supposedly contacted Dr. Kornfeld's office on April 20.

1Sasha said:

Now Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins (sp) is asking through an attorney for anything she gives to the court to be held as confidential and not released to the public. That filing is dated yesterday. She's the one who supposedly contacted Dr. Kornfeld's office on April 20.

She is listed as the manager of the LLC so she may be turning over financial docs so I am sure that information will be sealed. I was wondering when she was going to show up and how she has managed to stay under the radar for so long.