laurarichardson said:

Dibblekins said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Please, don't say that Prince was a miserable husband. I wish people wouldn't paint him as some horrible person; he simply wasn't. We don't know all the details of their marriage/relationship, and we have no right to pass judgement. You have to understand, Mayte was a very young (16) and impressionable girl when she met Prince. She said Prince was her first love. For me, personally -- I still think of my first love; I was so in love with him and he broke my heart, but I moved on -- I was so young at the time, and I have had so many life experiences since then.

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You have to understand, Prince lost his Son and I'm sure his loss of Son and loss of marriage was very painful for both him and Mayte. His life had changed, considerably after he divorced Mayte and he married Manuela and seemed very happy with her -- he was in a different place -- he became a JW. He was trying to heal and move on as best he could. Prince is not here to speak for himself, sadly. And, I can assure you that if he was here, Mayte would not be publishing a book about her life with Prince, as Prince had to stop her from doing that before.

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When you go through hard times, it changes you as a person. After Prince lost his Son, he was never the same again. A part of you dies inside when you lose a loved one. Prince was a very private person and he would never discuss his marriage to Mayte. Never.

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You say that, Clover - but I don't think our little P was averse to dropping none-too-subtle hints in his music / lyrics, when the mood took him...

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For example, if you just watch / listen to the Rave 2000 concert - the section on YT called 'Blues Guitar'. This was at the time he was 'moving on' from Mayte (and on to Manuela who is present at this particular gig and to whom he gives a sneaky kiss during proceedings) so his words at 3.04 onwards are interesting;

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'I gotta bad, bad feeling / my little Puerto Rican beauty don't live here no more / That's alright, I still got her... (???)' (I can't make out the rest - but it doesn't have the tone of someone who is being particularly reverent...Maybe you can hear what he says because I would love to know)!

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In short, I've said it before, for someone who had a reputation for being very 'private', it's quite remarkable how much Prince reveals in lyrics or at concerts when he has let his guard down, as if by it being in those contexts, he can 'distance himself - from himself'.
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If I had the time, I'd go through every song lyric with a fine toothcomb - because from those I HAVE analysed closely, they're just as good as an autobiography! Of course, not everyone is inclined to believe the truths revealed via his lyrics, despite P claiming they made him an 'open book'...

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oh thats a good one. as far as I heard the puerto rican beauty was there as well, wasnt she? so after all he had some good reasons to fear Y2K

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

I say nice things all the time but not to people with snarky responses /I did not take your response to my comments be a complimentary. Your comments were snarky and you has no answer to my questions. Also if you read below in other states divorce docs have been sealed due to request. [Edited 11/15/16 13:57pm]

Well, therein lies the problem....YOU are inferring something based on bias. I have in no way, shape or form denied that the divorce records were sealed due to a request by the petitioner and/or respondent. What is your point?

Are you just around here to poke at Laura? I haven't seen what you've contributed here yet. Yeah, Laura welds a sword concerning Prince but she does contribute a lot and not just run around talking crap about others.

Dibblekins said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Please, don't say that Prince was a miserable husband. I wish people wouldn't paint him as some horrible person; he simply wasn't. We don't know all the details of their marriage/relationship, and we have no right to pass judgement. You have to understand, Mayte was a very young (16) and impressionable girl when she met Prince. She said Prince was her first love. For me, personally -- I still think of my first love; I was so in love with him and he broke my heart, but I moved on -- I was so young at the time, and I have had so many life experiences since then.

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You have to understand, Prince lost his Son and I'm sure his loss of Son and loss of marriage was very painful for both him and Mayte. His life had changed, considerably after he divorced Mayte and he married Manuela and seemed very happy with her -- he was in a different place -- he became a JW. He was trying to heal and move on as best he could. Prince is not here to speak for himself, sadly. And, I can assure you that if he was here, Mayte would not be publishing a book about her life with Prince, as Prince had to stop her from doing that before.

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When you go through hard times, it changes you as a person. After Prince lost his Son, he was never the same again. A part of you dies inside when you lose a loved one. Prince was a very private person and he would never discuss his marriage to Mayte. Never.

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You say that, Clover - but I don't think our little P was averse to dropping none-too-subtle hints in his music / lyrics, when the mood took him...

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For example, if you just watch / listen to the Rave 2000 concert - the section on YT called 'Blues Guitar'. This was at the time he was 'moving on' from Mayte (and on to Manuela who is present at this particular gig and to whom he gives a sneaky kiss during proceedings) so his words at 3.04 onwards are interesting;

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'I gotta bad, bad feeling / my little Puerto Rican beauty don't live here no more / That's alright, I still got her... (???)' (I can't make out the rest - but it doesn't have the tone of someone who is being particularly reverent...Maybe you can hear what he says because I would love to know)!

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In short, I've said it before, for someone who had a reputation for being very 'private', it's quite remarkable how much Prince reveals in lyrics or at concerts when he has let his guard down, as if by it being in those contexts, he can 'distance himself - from himself'.
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If I had the time, I'd go through every song lyric with a fine toothcomb - because from those I HAVE analysed closely, they're just as good as an autobiography! Of course, not everyone is inclined to believe the truths revealed via his lyrics, despite P claiming they made him an 'open book'...

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Hey, Dibble! I am by no means saying that Prince was perfect; 'cause he was far from it, and has said so, himself. Yes, he said things in some of his songs that I am not particularly fond of. I think he went through a bad time in his life after losing his Son and divorcing Mayte. He wasn't proud of things he had done in his past. What I always loved about Prince is that he admitted to where he had gone wrong and he worked on trying to change that. He was humble and down-to-earth, which is a very rare quality in these days, especially someone with a celebrity status, like Prince.

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Regarding his lyrics. Now, some of his lyrics I don't necessarily take literally. Maybe he ws just messing around and having fun with lyrics, and pehaps he didn't really feel that way in his heart? He said his music was like therapy for him, so maybe it was his way of working through that hard time in his life? Just thinking out loud.....

cloveringold85 said:

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Hey, Dibble! I am by no means saying that Prince was perfect; 'cause he was far from it, and has said so, himself. Yes, he said things in some of his songs that I am not particularly fond of. I think he went through a bad time in his life after losing his Son and divorcing Mayte. He wasn't proud of things he had done in his past. What I always loved about Prince is that he admitted to where he had gone wrong and he worked on trying to change that. He was humble and down-to-earth, which is a very rare quality in these days, especially someone with a celebrity status, like Prince.

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Regarding his lyrics. Now, some of his lyrics I don't necessarily take literally. Maybe he ws just messing around and having fun with lyrics, and pehaps he didn't really feel that way in his heart? He said his music was like therapy for him, so maybe it was his way of working through that hard time in his life? Just thinking out loud.....

Oh, I wasn't getting at you, Clover, hun...And, yes, I am sure there are instances where his lyrics were just a bit of fun, BUT he really does reveal a lot of truths in them too - and in his concerts...

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As I say, it's almost as if, by making art / performance out of life, it enabled him (as you say: 'work through' it) to come to terms with it all.

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I do wonder if, despite having lots of friends - or at least people around him - he actually felt very lonely and didn't feel able / comfortable with confiding in people. That would explain his feeling as though his art was his release mechanism...Whereas some people have a diary, Prince had his vault.

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morningsong said:

morningsong said:

Dibblekins said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Hey, Dibble! I am by no means saying that Prince was perfect; 'cause he was far from it, and has said so, himself. Yes, he said things in some of his songs that I am not particularly fond of. I think he went through a bad time in his life after losing his Son and divorcing Mayte. He wasn't proud of things he had done in his past. What I always loved about Prince is that he admitted to where he had gone wrong and he worked on trying to change that. He was humble and down-to-earth, which is a very rare quality in these days, especially someone with a celebrity status, like Prince.

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Regarding his lyrics. Now, some of his lyrics I don't necessarily take literally. Maybe he ws just messing around and having fun with lyrics, and pehaps he didn't really feel that way in his heart? He said his music was like therapy for him, so maybe it was his way of working through that hard time in his life? Just thinking out loud.....

Oh, I wasn't getting at you, Clover, hun...And, yes, I am sure there are instances where his lyrics were just a bit of fun, BUT he really does reveal a lot of truths in them too - and in his concerts...

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As I say, it's almost as if, by making art / performance out of life, it enabled him (as you say: 'work through' it) to come to terms with it all.

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I do wonder if, despite having lots of friends - or at least people around him - he actually felt very lonely and didn't feel able / comfortable with confiding in people. That would explain his feeling as though his art was his release mechanism...Whereas some people have a diary, Prince had his vault.

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LOL.....I know, sweetie -- I understand what you were saying. I just wanted to make clear that I didn't think Prince was perfect. He had his faults, as we all do.

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Yes, he did reveal a lot about himself in his concerts. I loved when he would just be himself and "shine"-- people really connect with that, ya know?

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It is quite sad, to think that he didn't have someone who he could lean on. I don't think he could trust too many people. He gave us so much; it was so important to him that we understood his message of love and he gave his all to us -- his gift of music, to the very end.

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Okay, tissue now.

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zenarose said:

morningsong said:

Are you just around here to poke at Laura? I haven't seen what you've contributed here yet. Yeah, Laura welds a sword concerning Prince but she does contribute a lot and not just run around talking crap about others.

MORNINGSONG: It's not just Laura. It's CLOVERINGOLD85 and OLIVIACAMRON also. All 3 are really bright, intelligent folks. Every time they post they get picked apart by someone that is rude and disruptive. They just do not deserve to be treated badly. It's rather silly what someone will do to get attention even if it's bad attention. It's not just this thread, there are several. Every thread they post in they are attacked.

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Awww, thanks Zena!! That was a sweet thing to say! Now, you are pretty smart cookie yourself, so props to you, Zena!!

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Actually, I think Laura really means well. There are times when we don't see things eye-to-eye, and I respect her opinions. She can come off as abrasive at times, but I think it just comes from her passion for the truth. She has been staying on top of the latest developments, and she sticks to the details, and can be blunt. I have had my differences with her, but I finally got to understand where she was coming from. She has done a lot of research and shared a lot of valid information on here as so many others (I don't want to list any, because I may leave someone out by mistake).

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That said; however, I do understand how her words and style of communicating can be taken in a bad/negative way, especially if you are new to the Org.

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I hope this helps. Peace & Love!

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Peace & Love!!

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zenarose said:

morningsong said:

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

I say nice things all the time but not to people with snarky responses /I did not take your response to my comments be a complimentary. Your comments were snarky and you has no answer to my questions. Also if you read below in other states divorce docs have been sealed due to request. [Edited 11/15/16 13:57pm]

Well, therein lies the problem....YOU are inferring something based on bias. I have in no way, shape or form denied that the divorce records were sealed due to a request by the petitioner and/or respondent. What is your point?

Are you just around here to poke at Laura? I haven't seen what you've contributed here yet. Yeah, Laura welds a sword concerning Prince but she does contribute a lot and not just run around talking crap about others.

MORNINGSONG: It's not just Laura. It's CLOVERINGOLD85 and OLIVIACAMRON also.
All 3 are really bright, intelligent folks. Every time they post they get picked apart by someone that is rude and disruptive. They just do not deserve to be treated badly. It's rather silly what someone will do to get attention even if it's bad attention. It's not just this thread, there are several. Every thread they post in they are attacked.

zenarose said:

morningsong said:

Are you just around here to poke at Laura? I haven't seen what you've contributed here yet. Yeah, Laura welds a sword concerning Prince but she does contribute a lot and not just run around talking crap about others.

MORNINGSONG: It's not just Laura. It's CLOVERINGOLD85 and OLIVIACAMRON also. All 3 are really bright, intelligent folks. Every time they post they get picked apart by someone that is rude and disruptive. They just do not deserve to be treated badly. It's rather silly what someone will do to get attention even if it's bad attention. It's not just this thread, there are several. Every thread they post in they are attacked.

You're right they do. It just seems to me this person has some personal vendetta with Laura, that needs to go away from here. If this is going on with other people here then all of it really needs to go. I know arguements happen in the Org and that one thing, but that nitpicking when someone isn't even talking to you is annoying as hell, especially when nothing is being offered at the table.

Okay, I said my piece, now I am slowly walking away, and exiting this room.

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I need to get started on dinner!

NotACleverName said:

morningsong said:

Are you just around here to poke at Laura? I haven't seen what you've contributed here yet. Yeah, Laura welds a sword concerning Prince but she does contribute a lot and not just run around talking crap about others.

Hi morningsong....I am not poking anyone. I'm not aware of any rule that gives "laura" carte blanche with regard to how she addresses a forum member in a post but disallows another from responding. But I'm sure she will appreciate the help from you.

Yes you are poking, a comment or 2 is one thing. Ongoing is poking, and it is not entertaining to watch, hence I've avoided certain other threads.

morningsong said:

Sooo...Back to the thread topic (she says, valiantly) ...

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The divorce documents...They've apparently been unsealed - do we know if their contents will enter the public domain via the courts, or have they only been unsealed for the eyes of the ST?

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In other words, what does 'unsealed' actually mean, in reality?

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cloveringold85 said:

zenarose said:

morningsong said: MORNINGSONG: It's not just Laura. It's CLOVERINGOLD85 and OLIVIACAMRON also. All 3 are really bright, intelligent folks. Every time they post they get picked apart by someone that is rude and disruptive. They just do not deserve to be treated badly. It's rather silly what someone will do to get attention even if it's bad attention. It's not just this thread, there are several. Every thread they post in they are attacked.

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Awww, thanks Zena!! That was a sweet thing to say! Now, you are pretty smart cookie yourself, so props to you, Zena!!

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Actually, I think Laura really means well. There are times when we don't see things eye-to-eye, and I respect her opinions. She can come off as abrasive at times, but I think it just comes from her passion for the truth. She has been staying on top of the latest developments, and she sticks to the details, and can be blunt. I have had my differences with her, but I finally got to understand where she was coming from. She has done a lot of research and shared a lot of valid information on here as so many others (I don't want to list any, because I may leave someone out by mistake).

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That said; however, I do understand how her words and style of communicating can be taken in a bad/negative way, especially if you are new to the Org.

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I hope this helps. Peace & Love!

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Peace & Love!!

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Yeah, I know I've seen some of the arguments. I don't get in them, except to post something silly. I'm just feeling this is some ish that spilling over from some other thread I don't go to and I personally wish it stays there. I have fun over here even in the serious stuff and even in the minute disagreements and I'd like it to stay that way for as long as it can.

morningsong said:

Hi morningsong! Do ou know anything about VN's mother Jeannine Halloran?

laurarichardson said:

See I don't think John's will gives any weight to the case.

In fact I don't think any of the exhibits do. Because Duane and John had a father like relationship but not a legal one.

Duane was not even listed as an heir in John's estate. These are legal procedings. Programs from funerals and rememberances have no legal bearing or meaning.

I thought the girls were going to present adoption papers or some legal document that would have made Duane an heir. How are these docs any different than the Greshams hearsay or the other fake children hearsay? Or someone else coming forward and saying I am one of P's old girlfriend's child and he was not my dad but he took care of me financially so I should be an heir.

This type of decision would open up a terrible can of worms for estates.

I get what you're saying. But this judge has made the statement that DNA testing didn't need to be done regarding one claim (involving "family" members) that John L was PRN's dad because John L has acted as his father, giving the impression that "acting as a father" is enough legally. There are statutes in MN laws regarding other circumstances that "acting as a father" is enough legally. That's what they're fighting about. It's about dotting "i"s and crossing "t"s at this point.
Sounds like just insisting on getting DNA testing all around would have headed some of this off.

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

I say nice things all the time but not to people with snarky responses /I did not take your response to my comments be a complimentary. Your comments were snarky and you has no answer to my questions. Also if you read below in other states divorce docs have been sealed due to request. [Edited 11/15/16 13:57pm]

Well, therein lies the problem....YOU are inferring something based on bias. I have in no way, shape or form denied that the divorce records were sealed due to a request by the petitioner and/or respondent. What is your point?

My point is you have no clue. You challeged me that the divorce docs were not sealed by the request of the parties in the divorce. Which could have be due to not wanting personal or financial information in the public eye althought it does not matter the reason the parties wanted it sealed. They parties made the request and it is not unusual or unheard of for divorce docs to be sealed and it is plausible that these docs were sealed upon request and the court granted it.

As far a bias. Yes I have an issue with snarky ass comments. So sue me.

monica80 said:

morningsong said:

Hi morningsong! Do ou know anything about VN's mother Jeannine Halloran?

I get what you're saying. But this judge has made the statement that DNA testing didn't need to be done regarding one claim (involving "family" members) that John L was PRN's dad because John L has acted as his father, giving the impression that "acting as a father" is enough legally. There are statutes in MN laws regarding other circumstances that "acting as a father" is enough legally. That's what they're fighting about. It's about dotting "i"s and crossing "t"s at this point.
Sounds like just insisting on getting DNA testing all around would have headed some of this off.

John L did not just act like P's dad he is on Prince's birth certificate and he would have been recognized by the schools and the courts when Prince's dad divorced his mom. It is not just about acting like a father in Prince' s case. Yes, I do think everybody should get a DNA test.

cloveringold85 said:

zenarose said:

morningsong said: MORNINGSONG: It's not just Laura. It's CLOVERINGOLD85 and OLIVIACAMRON also. All 3 are really bright, intelligent folks. Every time they post they get picked apart by someone that is rude and disruptive. They just do not deserve to be treated badly. It's rather silly what someone will do to get attention even if it's bad attention. It's not just this thread, there are several. Every thread they post in they are attacked.

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Awww, thanks Zena!! That was a sweet thing to say! Now, you are pretty smart cookie yourself, so props to you, Zena!!

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Actually, I think Laura really means well. There are times when we don't see things eye-to-eye, and I respect her opinions. She can come off as abrasive at times, but I think it just comes from her passion for the truth. She has been staying on top of the latest developments, and she sticks to the details, and can be blunt. I have had my differences with her, but I finally got to understand where she was coming from. She has done a lot of research and shared a lot of valid information on here as so many others (I don't want to list any, because I may leave someone out by mistake).

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That said; however, I do understand how her words and style of communicating can be taken in a bad/negative way, especially if you are new to the Org.

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I hope this helps. Peace & Love!

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Peace & Love!!

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Thank you. I will take your comments under advisement. Atlthough I do not attack people for no reason they always start with me first. Nothing but snarky comments and never answering any of the questions I put forth or bothering to explain why they disagree with some actual facts. I am going to just ignore certain people and continue to ask questions and look for facts. I know we are living in a world today were no one wants to go the extra mile to investigate anything. Look at our most recent election as an example.

laurarichardson said:

A copyright lawsuit follows Roc Nation's insistence in probate court of having a license deal that allows for the exploitation of the late artist's catalog.



Is it getting ugly?

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Awww, thanks Zena!! That was a sweet thing to say! Now, you are pretty smart cookie yourself, so props to you, Zena!!

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Actually, I think Laura really means well. There are times when we don't see things eye-to-eye, and I respect her opinions. She can come off as abrasive at times, but I think it just comes from her passion for the truth. She has been staying on top of the latest developments, and she sticks to the details, and can be blunt. I have had my differences with her, but I finally got to understand where she was coming from. She has done a lot of research and shared a lot of valid information on here as so many others (I don't want to list any, because I may leave someone out by mistake).

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That said; however, I do understand how her words and style of communicating can be taken in a bad/negative way, especially if you are new to the Org.

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I hope this helps. Peace & Love!

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Peace & Love!!

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Thank you. I will take your comments under advisement. Atlthough I do not attack people for no reason they always start with me first. Nothing but snarky comments and never answering any of the questions I put forth or bothering to explain why they disagree with some actual facts. I am going to just ignore certain people and continue to ask questions and look for facts. I know we are living in a world today were no one wants to go the extra mile to investigate anything. Look at our most recent election as an example.

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I understand what you are saying, Laura. We've had conversations before, but I never felt insulted by you, ever. I take everyone's opinion with an open-mind. I never shut people down and say things like "you're ignorant" or whatever. I know you only speak up when someone gets an attitude with you, and I'm the same way. I am a nice person, but when someone goes on the attack, I'm not going to get walked all over. I do appreciate all your efforts and so many other's here who have nothing but good intentions. Peace & Love!

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CooperC62057 said:

laurarichardson said:

Thank you. I will take your comments under advisement. Atlthough I do not attack people for no reason they always start with me first. Nothing but snarky comments and never answering any of the questions I put forth or bothering to explain why they disagree with some actual facts. I am going to just ignore certain people and continue to ask questions and look for facts. I know we are living in a world today were no one wants to go the extra mile to investigate anything. Look at our most recent election as an example.

Personally, I got no problem with LR, however, I think that often the written word can be misunderstood as I did the other day with her comment referencing zenarose income. Of course, as she points out, there are those who may deserve what she throws out. Maybe LR should be more careful with wording and I'll be more careful with interpreting as maybe some others should be as well. She does provid quite a bit of information and although I may not always be of the same mindset, she has her right to her opinions as well as the rest of us.

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Cooper: I agree. I think message boards are not the best form of communicating, and words can be misconstrued so easily, as I've said here before. Laura does bring a lot of good information forth.

I updated the list to include dates for disallowances and checked into some of the heir claims to provide additional information. The sites I got the information from are listed in the heirs name. I found a duplicate heir and removed that. Also corrected Maurice Soledad, the Indian Reservation, from a claim to an heir, which, surprisingly, was excluded. SA is for Special Administrator.

Claims

05/06/16 Maleika Mosley – Hostage crisis, claim disallowed by SA 09/16/16

04/27/16 Rodney Dixon - $1 ownership of rights, claim disallowed by SA 09/16/16, court judgement ruled against and listed frivolous 10/17/16

05/11/16 Kimberly Potts - $500,000 for Musicology creation, claim disallowed by SA 09/16/16

05/11/16 R. Kerr – Recording Cost, post production, equipment rental, $46,582.29, and claim disallowed by SA 11/11/16

06/08/16 Eight Day Sound Systems, Catherine Bellante - $256,010.89, services for rehearsals and shows at PP form November 13, 2014 thru May 16, 2015.

09/16/16 Xavier Powell – TMBGITW claim of helping Kerry Gordon being employed with PP, claim disallowed by SA 11/14/16, court judgement ruled against

07/22/16 James Brandon – copyright infringement case in Florida district

08/26/16 Majorie Frazier – Spiritual wife, claim disallowed by SA 10/28/16

09/07/16 Mixed Blood Theater – Cancellation of anniversary gala, $348,258, and claim disallowed by SA 11/11/16

09/14/16 Ricky Barron/Baron Event Planning - $50,000 in losses due to cancelled event from SA, claim disallowed by SA 11/11/16

09/16/16 Karie Clay –no details known, claimed disallowed by SA 09/16/16

10/19/19 Sharon Hughes – half penny for each sale of Ice Cream Castles, claim disallowed by SA 10/28/16

11/07/16 Roc Nation – Tidal claim for various matter in contractual agreement

11/08/16 Lily Alphosis – Beautiful Ones cd/video claim, claim disallowed by SA 11/11/16

Potential Heir Claims

5/09/16 Carlin Q Williams – son, inmate, alternate DNA testing ordered 11/02/16

05/13/16 Brianna &VN Nelson - Duane’s offspring, excluded as an heir, judged against 10/26/16

06/03/16 Regina Sorenson – Heir claim, Prince was trustee for Regina, removed from home with Prince by CPS, half sibling of Prince, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

06/06/16 Norman Yates Carthens – adopted son claim, $7,000,000

06/10/16 Dr. Roskco A Motes - half-brother of Prince via Haywood, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

06/14/16 April Lashaun Seward – Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

06/14/16 Martha Samuels – Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

06/14/16 James Austin Womack - Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

06/14/16 Priscilla Williams - Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

06/14/16 Lorraine Huddleston - Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

06/14/16 Dana Samuels Nettles - Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

06/14/16 Jonette M Carter - Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

06/14/16 Michael Samuels - Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

06/14/16 Nicole White – DNA request, child of Prince, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

06/14/16 Taz Walker – Daughter of Prince, Prince was 14 at her birth, adopted by a family friendly with Prince (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2016/06/14/would--heirs-princes-millions-multiplying/85891872/)

06/17/16 Venita Jackson-Leverette – half sibling of Prince, excluded as an heir 09/27/16, appealed 09/26/16

06/21/16 Michael John Darling/James Oberstar – acquaintance claim to be an heir in will, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

07/04/16 Claire Boyd/Nelson – secret wife of Prince in 2006, excluded as an heir 09/27/16, listed frivolous 10/07/16

07/20/16 Maurice Lee Soledad – handshake agreement, buried remains in Indian Reservation, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

07/20/16 Loyal Jimmy Gresham III – half sibling of Prince via different father, excluded as an heir 09/27/16, appealed 09/27/16

07/20/16 Orrine Gresham - half sibling of Prince via different father, excluded as an heir 09/27/16, appealed 09/27/16

07/20/16 Darcell Gresham Johnston - half sibling of Prince via different father, excluded as an heir 09/27/16, appealed 09/27/16

07/20/16 Loya Janel Wilson - half sibling of Prince via different father, excluded as an heir 09/27/16, appealed 09/27/16

07/20/16 Mia M Stamper Dragojevich – cannot read the documents, child claim, excluded as an heir 09/27/16

06/24/16 Elaine Whigham Williams – sealed, status unknown

06/24/16 Estabon Bennermon – son of Prince, sealed, excluded due to prior adoption: http://prince.org/msg/7/429086?&pg=1

08/08/16 Anthony M. Steman/Anthony Snow – genetic results to be sealed, he claims he is not Prince’s decendent via article in Santa Monica Observer 08/11-16

09/26/16 Corey Simmons – Duane’s offspring, nephew of Prince, judgement against pending till 11/25/16 for additional primie facie evidence on 10/26/16

Miscellaneous Heir Claims

Child 1 means of adoption, excluded as an heir due to lack of primie facie 09/27/16

Child 2 direct child, excluded as an heir due to lack of primie facie 09/27/16

Child 3 means of adoption, excluded as an heir due to lack of primie facie 09/27/16

Child 4 direct child, excluded as an heir due to lack of primie facie 09/27/16

Child 5 direct child, excluded as an heir due to lack of primie facie 09/27/16

Potential Heirs

(DNA testing required for all)

Tyka Nelson – sibling

Omarr Baker – half sibling

John Nelson – half sibling

Norrine Nelson – half sibling

Sharon Nelson – half sibling

Alfred Jackson – half sibling

morningsong said:

A copyright lawsuit follows Roc Nation's insistence in probate court of having a license deal that allows for the exploitation of the late artist's catalog.



Is it getting ugly?

The Roc Nation issue is getting nasty fast. I am sure there is a lot of information that is not available. I would like to know what the contract states just for curiousity. I remember after Prince passed, seeing some messages here that tracks were availalbe on Tidal, like bootleg shows and so forth. I am not familiar with Tidal or use the service. So I cannot verify.

nelcp777 said:

laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

The Roc Nation issue is getting nasty fast. I am sure there is a lot of information that is not available. I would like to know what the contract states just for curiousity. I remember after Prince passed, seeing some messages here that tracks were availalbe on Tidal, like bootleg shows and so forth. I am not familiar with Tidal or use the service. So I cannot verify.

-- I have never saw any boots on Tidal. I cannot believe Prince gave Jay-Z files and did not get the money upfront. The only thing I think is that Prince got paid in cash and the estate has no idea where the went to. I would hope that Tidal can provide a record of the payment and contract documents if not Tidal is in big trouble. There is a court order right now for the music to come off the site but it is still up. [Edited 11/16/16 11:58am]

Here is the org message I saw in June, http://prince.org/msg/7/428610. After reading more posts, it was either not on Tidal or was very briefly (2 days).

nelcp777 said:

laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said: -- I have never saw any boots on Tidal. I cannot believe Prince gave Jay-Z files and did not get the money upfront. The only thing I think is that Prince got paid in cash and the estate has no idea where the went to. I would hope that Tidal can provide a record of the payment and contract documents if not Tidal is in big trouble. There is a court order right now for the music to come off the site but it is still up. [Edited 11/16/16 11:58am]

Here is the org message I saw in June, http://prince.org/msg/7/428610. After reading more posts, it was either not on Tidal or was very briefly (2 days).

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Well, if they don't have legal docs to support their claims, they should just forget about it already!

So does this stay in probate court or if this moves forward does it move to another court while they began closing out the heir issues?