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Albert was Mattie's son from a prior marriage. The judge excluded him in July I believe. I as for th children, I pulled the data from the same ruling. I am not sure on the exact number in total. Only 5 was addressed in the ruling by the Judge. None were from DNA, but from primie facie not being proved. | |
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Alfred was NOT excluded as an heir. Bremer determined he was a half sibling to P and that he didnt need to complete genetic testing. | |
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
Alfred was NOT excluded as an heir. Bremer determined he was a half sibling to P and that he didnt need to complete genetic testing. -/ Look we can only go by what we see. | |
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What does that mean? Im looking at the document in the Court file and Alfred is NOT excluded.
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Where does it say that Alfred is excluded as an heir? I thought that he would automatically be counted as an heir because he and Prince have the same biological mother. Alfred submitted a birth certificate that lists Mattie as his mother and he states that his parents were married when he was born. | |
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Ok, it wasn't perfect. | |
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laurarichardson said:
What reason do you legal eagles think the judge would have sealed the documents? Is it not possible that the documents were sealed because the parties involved requested that they be sealed and the judge granted their request? Is that not possible. I never said that financial information was the only reason did I? I can only presume your exclusive focus on financials is what you perceive the loaded gun to be in these docs. That is the core of what your content reveals to me when reading your posts re these sealed docs. You can look up anyone’s networth on the net but it does not make it accurate. Your worth can change day to day based on how your investments are doing in the market. What is your real estate worth? How are your businesses doing? We have no idea what P’s network was when he died because we do not have knowledge of all his assets. The only exchange of money I saw in their court docs was the $250k that was paid to M2 back in 2010. That does not tell us very much does it considering I am sure Prince was worth more that 250k at that time. I drew attention to this because it deals with financials but was not sealed; therefore, it (the financial aspect) doesn't appear to be a big deal to those involved in this divorce case. I never said for certain that is going to nothing in the docs because of the no-fault divorce state situation. There is a possibility that not much is going to be there for juicy gossip. I actually think that there is stuff in that divorce about M2 and I am not going to go into the gossip that is out about her but she may be the one with something to worry about as far as her reputation is concerned. Ok....thanks for sharing. [Edited 11/15/16 9:57am] "Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann | |
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M2? Seriously? | |
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
What does that mean? Im looking at the document in the Court file and Alfred is NOT excluded.
/I am looking at the list that was posted a few discussions up. | |
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NotACleverName said: laurarichardson said:
What reason do you legal eagles think the judge would have sealed the documents? Is it not possible that the documents were sealed because the parties involved requested that they be sealed and the judge granted their request? Is that not possible. I never said that financial information was the only reason did I? I can only presume your exclusive focus on financials is what you perceive the loaded gun to be in these docs. That is the core of what your content reveals to me when reading your posts re these sealed docs. You can look up anyone’s networth on the net but it does not make it accurate. Your worth can change day to day based on how your investments are doing in the market. What is your real estate worth? How are your businesses doing? We have no idea what P’s network was when he died because we do not have knowledge of all his assets. The only exchange of money I saw in their court docs was the $250k that was paid to M2 back in 2010. That does not tell us very much does it considering I am sure Prince was worth more that 250k at that time. I drew attention to this because it deals with financials but was not sealed; therefore, it (the financial aspect) doesn't appear to be a big deal to those involved in this divorce case. I never said for certain that is going to nothing in the docs because of the no-fault divorce state situation. There is a possibility that not much is going to be there for juicy gossip. I actually think that there is stuff in that divorce about M2 and I am not going to go into the gossip that is out about her but she may be the one with something to worry about as far as her reputation is concerned. Ok....thanks for sharing. [Edited 11/15/16 9:57am] I really hope you get the help you need. You did not answer one question I asked. | |
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morningsong said: Ok, it wasn't perfect. // It is not that big of deal that some people are making it out to be. | |
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Posted July 29th, from the hearing on June 27th, In the order On page 17 of the order, it states the following:
"As John L. Nelson is the presumed, genetic and adjudicated father of the Decedent and, as the applicants have neither met the standing or timeliness requirements to rebut the presumption of paternity, the Court determines that Loyal James Gresham, Jr., Loya Wilson, Loyal James Gresham III, Darcell Johnston, Orrine Gresham, Paul Leonard Newman, Regina Sorenson, Haywood Nelson, Sr., Roskco Motes, Alfred Jackson, Sr. and Venita JacksonLeverette are not, as a matter of law, intestate heirs of the Decedent."
This is where I got the information from. I am not trying to cause any issues. If I am wrong so be it. My intentions were to help not cause any thing to the contrary. | |
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Alfred Jackson Sr is Alfred's father. No harm no foul. It is easy to get these two names mixed up. If you recall, Alfred's siblings were saying that Alfred Sr. was P's biological father.
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laurarichardson said: NotACleverName said: I really hope you get the help you need. You did not answer one question I asked. Wow....you are truly a miserable human being. Do you EVER, in your life, say anything kind to anybody? Yeah.... I thought not. "Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann | |
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Where I practice, King County, Washington, until about 10 years ago, cases (including divorces) were routinely sealed upon a motion of one of the parties. The judges basically did it if asked. The Seattle Times, the largest newspaper in the state, ran a series of articles & editorials questioning this. Their argument was that we are supposed to have open courts and a lot of abuses of power could be hidden behind sealed documents. As a result, attornies don't seek to seal cases as much as they did a few years ago and judges require a greater showing when they do. Having said this, I don't know what the judicial culture is like in Minnesota. We know that Prince was a private person. He may have sought to have his divorce sealed to protect his privacy in general. | |
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Ok, so I updated the list to include Alfred as a potential heir due to my mistake. I also noticed that a Anthony Steman has an order to seal results for genetic testing 8/08/16, so I added this to the list.
Claims 05/06/16 Maleika Mosley – Hostage crisis, claim disallowed 04/27/16 Rodney Dixon - $1 ownership of rights, claim disallowed, judgement ruled against 05/11/16 Kimberly Potts - $500,000 for Musicology creation, claim disallowed 05/11/16 R. Kerr – Recording Cost, post production, equipment rental, $46,582.29, and claim disallowed 06/08/16 Eight Day Sound Systems, Catherine Bellante - $256,010.89, services for rehearsals and shows at PP form November 13, 2014 thru May 16, 2015. 09/16/16 Xavier Powell – TMBGITW claim of helping Kerry Gordon being employed with PP, claim disallowed, judgement ruled against 07/20/16 Maurice Lee Soledad – handshake agreement, buried remains in Indian Reservation 07/22/16 James Brandon – copyright infringement case in Florida district 08/26/16 Majorie Frazier – Spiritual wife, claim disallowed 09/07/16 Mixed Blood Theater – Cancellation of anniversary gala, $348,258, and claim disallowed 09/14/16 Ricky Barron/Baron Event Planning - $50,000 in losses due to cancelled event from SA, claim disallowed 09/16/16 Karie Clay –no details known, claimed disallowed 10/19/19 Sharon Hughes – half penny for each sale of Ice Cream Castles, claim disallowed 11/07/16 Roc Nation – Tidal claim for various matter in contractual agreement 11/08/16 Lily Alphosis – Beautiful Ones cd/video claim, claim disallowed Potential Heir Claims 5/09/16 Carlin Q Williams – son, inmate, alternate DNA testing ordered 05/13/16 Brianna &VN Nelson - Duane’s offspring, excluded as an heir 06/03/16 Regina Sorenson – Heir claim, Prince was trustee for Regina, removed from home with Prince by CPS, half sibling of Prince, excluded as an heir 06/06/16 Norman Yates Carthens – adopted son claim, $7,000,000 06/10/16 Dr. Roskco A Motes - half-brother of Prince via Haywood, excluded as an heir 06/14/16 April Lashaun Seward – Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 06/14/16 Martha Samuels – Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 06/14/16 James Austin Womack - Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 06/14/16 Priscilla Williams - Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 06/14/16 Lorraine Huddleston - Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 06/14/16 Dana Samuels Nettles - Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 06/14/16 Jonette M Carter - Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 06/14/16 Michael Samuels - Virginia Nelson sibling, excluded as an heir 06/14/16 Nicole White – DNA request, child of Prince, excluded as an heir 06/14/16 Taz Walker – Daughter of Prince 06/17/16 Venita Jackson-Leverette – half sibling of Prince, excluded as an heir 06/21/16 Michael John Darling/James Oberstar – acquaintance claim to be an heir in will, excluded as an heir 07/04/16 Claire Boyd/Nelson – secret wife of Prince in 2006, excluded as an heir 07/20/16 Loyal Jimmy Gresham III – half sibling of Prince via different father, excluded as an heir 07/20/16 Orrine Gresham - half sibling of Prince via different father, excluded as an heir 07/20/16 Darcell Gresham Johnston - half sibling of Prince via different father, excluded as an heir 07/20/16 Loya Janel Wilson - half sibling of Prince via different father, excluded as an heir 07/20/16 Mia M Stamper Dragojevich – cannot read the documents, child claim, excluded as an heir 06/24/16 Elaine Whigham Williams – sealed 06/24/16 Estabon Bennermon – son of Prince, sealed 08/08/16 Anthony M. Steman – genetic results to be sealed 09/16/16 Regina Sorenson – half sibling, alleged prior DNA test done in 2000, excluded as an heir 09/26/16 Corey Simmons – Duane’s offspring, nephew of Prince, judgement against pending till 11/25/16 for additional primie facie evidence Miscellaneous Heir Claims Child 1 means of adoption, excluded as an heir due to lack of primie facie Child 2 direct child, excluded as an heir due to lack of primie facie Child 3 means of adoption, excluded as an heir due to lack of primie facie Child 4 direct child, excluded as an heir due to lack of primie facie Child 5 direct child, excluded as an heir due to lack of primie facie Potential Heirs Tyka Nelson – sibling Omarr Baker – half sibling John Nelson – half sibling Norrine Nelson – half sibling Sharon Nelson – half sibling Alfred Jackson – half sibling
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. I agree; in some circumstances the judge will grant the file to be sealed. I'm sure a lot of wealthy people do it all the time. Nobody wants to have their financial to be dug-up. Just saying.
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I love Prince, but he seemed to be a miserable husband. I feel sorry for Mayte because he was particularly brutal to her; as for MT: I think he actually treated her better but he was no peach. | |
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nelcp - thanks for taking the time to make this list.
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Thanks, anytime. It is a work in process. If there is anything wrong, we can discuss and update. I was having a hard time keeping up. I have absolutely 0 legal experience, so my reading and interpretion can be wrong. Hey, I am human. | |
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NotACleverName said: laurarichardson said: I really hope you get the help you need. You did not answer one question I asked. Wow....you are truly a miserable human being. Do you EVER, in your life, say anything kind to anybody? Yeah.... I thought not. I say nice things all the time but not to people with snarky responses /I did not take your response to my comments be a complimentary. Your comments were snarky and you has no answer to my questions. Also if you read below in other states divorce docs have been sealed due to request. [Edited 11/15/16 13:57pm] | |
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leftcoast said:
Where I practice, King County, Washington, until about 10 years ago, cases (including divorces) were routinely sealed upon a motion of one of the parties. The judges basically did it if asked. The Seattle Times, the largest newspaper in the state, ran a series of articles & editorials questioning this. Their argument was that we are supposed to have open courts and a lot of abuses of power could be hidden behind sealed documents. As a result, attornies don't seek to seal cases as much as they did a few years ago and judges require a greater showing when they do. Having said this, I don't know what the judicial culture is like in Minnesota. We know that Prince was a private person. He may have sought to have his divorce sealed to protect his privacy in general. --/ Thank you for the information. | |
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morningsong said: M2? Seriously? //Other message board refer to the wives as M1 and M2. | |
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1Sasha said: I love Prince, but he seemed to be a miserable husband. I feel sorry for Mayte because he was particularly brutal to her; as for MT: I think he actually treated her better but he was no peach. -// Where are you getting that from. We never have heard all of the details from Mayte and we never heard anything from Prince. | |
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. Please, don't say that Prince was a miserable husband. I wish people wouldn't paint him as some horrible person; he simply wasn't. We don't know all the details of their marriage/relationship, and we have no right to pass judgement. You have to understand, Mayte was a very young (16) and impressionable girl when she met Prince. She said Prince was her first love. For me, personally -- I still think of my first love; I was so in love with him and he broke my heart, but I moved on -- I was so young at the time, and I have had so many life experiences since then. . You have to understand, Prince lost his Son and I'm sure his loss of Son and loss of marriage was very painful for both him and Mayte. His life had changed, considerably after he divorced Mayte and he married Manuela and seemed very happy with her -- he was in a different place -- he became a JW. He was trying to heal and move on as best he could. Prince is not here to speak for himself, sadly. And, I can assure you that if he was here, Mayte would not be publishing a book about her life with Prince, as Prince had to stop her from doing that before. . When you go through hard times, it changes you as a person. After Prince lost his Son, he was never the same again. A part of you dies inside when you lose a loved one. Prince was a very private person and he would never discuss his marriage to Mayte. Never. . .
[Edited 11/15/16 14:32pm] "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. OMG! Seriously? That is what they are calling his ex-wives now? LMAO!!
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