Yeah it is strange because she is getting negative and positive feedback. As usual Social Media hate is there as it always is when people hide behind the keypads. Judging whether she should be sharing or not be sharing or saying she is a liar promoting shows I mean really hurtful stuff, but that is the cowardly world of social media that has taken over this world. Hearing this though still makes me think of the person I am not hearing or that I feel may have been that "yes" man to Prince all through this and that is Kirky J. His ties to the fitness world, being a trainer he has access to a lot of these things, and again its all guess work. But he is the one at his side in every picture I see from the last few years when Prince was out and about he is the only constant around him, so Prince's circle to me is limited to him mainly. Others like Judith or ANdy or 3rd eye girl are not really part of the circle they were creative relations.

Prince also told Andy Allo he loved her as well and as others have pointed out...he said that to many people. May have also been part of his belief system since we are supposed to love one another. Doesnt mean we read something into it that it's not. I loe my ex...doesnt mean I want to go back with him or that I am in love with him. Besides at 57, our bodies dont work the same as it did say even at 47 and drives are different as well, if you catch my drift. In some states, let alone restaurants, he would have been considered a senior citizen...in OH for example, I think it is 55 as the beginning of the golden years He is still held in high esteem with me and that's not going to change. He was human and did the best he could with what he was God-given while he was here.

morningsong said:

Oh I forgot as a side note. Dairy Queen y'all. Dairy Queen. That should be funny as heck right now. But I'm afraid it's leading to thing I don't want to know, but have been beginning to suspect.

milkshake pancakes

rogifan said:

StephanieThePisces said:

It's all so very complicated because there are so many people involved and everyone on this planet is different in how they process and express their pain and grief. So it's difficult - or it should be, imo - to judge or critisize or attempt to ascribe motivations to another person about how they handle their own personal pain and grief.

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I understand your desire that no one say anything. But I also get how many need to know more to help themselves understand and come to terms and start healing. But with so many people of differing mindsets and viewpoints and beliefs, there's no way everyone will get what they personally need to heal the best way for them, individually.

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So I do agree completely with you about if the family or if friends choose to say nothing, we need to accept that even if it leaves one feeling frustrated. Just as if someone, like Judith, speaks out (and I honestly don't see anything "bad" in what she shared. Prince always wanted to help people better themselves. I know how he felt about privacy when he was alive but in regards to this opioid dependence and his death, I like to think he'd be OK with the public hearing a few more details about what he experienced because maybe that will help other people either not ever travel the road he did or it'll help them seek help to get off a med that can cause such devestation. So what Judith said about what happened, to me doesn't come across as intrusive to Prince or not respecting him because I like to think he's looking down at all this and wanting something GOOD and POSITIVE to result from all of it...and open communication about the ugly parts of life is what helps educate and promotes understanding and healing).

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Sorry to ramble. But again, I do get where you're coming from and I just hope that whatever happens, people can treat each other with compassion and understanding.

I don't get how knowing more helps anyone. It's certainly not going to bring Prince back. Plus how do we know this investigation will provide the 'why'? Or if it does that people will believe it? Let the man rest in peace.

BULLSHIT. If someone is responsible for Prince's death, they need to be held accountable. PERIOD.

MMJas said:

Because they read Kiran and Delmaris twitter account s trashing another woman (HILL)who was perhaps close to Prince and decided to share her experience...all because they themselves are in that "well" inner cirlce and they claim to know more or better 'friends' with him. To me they are no different than what they are accusing Hill of by commenting to begin with, sometimes with snarky, elusive, comments that of course makes one want to know more..but they are keeping the key to that.

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Would love to know why, if they are so close, why did she ( Kiran Sharma) stop or asked to stop 'managing' Prince??

all7even said:

My thing is why do some of you feel as if she was trying to gain something off of this? This could've been some traumatic event (I'm sure it is) and needed to say something to at least free some off it from her mind.

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jumanji2016 said:

MMJas said:

You are kidding, right?

Not all. Some restaurant chains consider anyone 55+ to be a senior citizen.

Wow. Had no idea. How depressing...

all7even said:

My thing is why do some of you feel as if she was trying to gain something off of this? This could've been some traumatic event (I'm sure it is) and needed to say something to at least free some off it from her mind.

Honestly, we have not learned much from this. The story I saw today featured a lot of her performances. It was a little strange. Almost as if she now has an agent she is working with and the agent asked her if she had any Prince stories to share that might help her put her name out there again.

jumanji2016 said:

MMJas said:

You are kidding, right?

Not all. Some restaurant chains consider anyone 55+ to be a senior citizen.

50 in many cases.

rogifan said:

jumanji2016 said:

destinyc1 said:

BINGO! This entire thread makes me want to do cartwheels and scream 'Prince was 57! 57! 57! 57! 57! 5-7! 5-7!' He was old enough for AARP! He's considered a senior citizen at certain restaurants! Most 57-year-olds have aches and pains! This guy EVEN more so! People are acting so damn dense here.

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

Oh I forgot as a side note. Dairy Queen y'all. Dairy Queen. That should be funny as heck right now. But I'm afraid it's leading to thing I don't want to know, but have been beginning to suspect.

milkshake pancakes

Nah, I mean penguin girl might be for real. She claimed they went to Dairy Queen also.

morningsong said:

NinaB said:

morningsong said:

Nah, I mean penguin girl might be for real. She claimed they went to Dairy Queen also.

Oh! Thats what u meant!

laytonian said:

jumanji2016 said:

MMJas said: Not all. Some restaurant chains consider anyone 55+ to be a senior citizen.

50 in many cases.

Shut the front door!

MMJas said:

Tresha68 said:

PurpleMusic07 said:

Tresha68 said: Perhaps a lot of fans are reading more into it. we are definitely socialized to equate deep emotional relartionships with the opposite sex as being romantic/sexual in nature. as a culture we have made the word "intimate" only refer to romantic relationships. I personally just get tthe vibe that they had a super close relationship. Period. COuld it have been romantic? Hell yeah. Platonic friends dont generally tell each other "i want to take up all your time and be the only one u hang out with".. But either way its none of our biz. shes hurting. whatever they were to each other he meant something to her and that matters. she deserves a massive hug. i hope she finds peace. i couldnt imagine losing my partner. and back in highschool had i lost the person that was my best friend i would have been crushed, we shared a highly intense emotional relationship - nothing romantic about it. its not abnormal to love deeply outside off a romantic relationship.

At 47 years old, I am well aware of deep friendships with the oppsite sex. I feel she read more into the relationship. Prince was notorious for shaping young, naive girls. I think she may have been the most naive. She seems like a sweet child, I think she spoke honestly from HER PERSPECTIVE.

I honestly do not think, anyone except Mayte and his parents have ever seen the stripped down version of P. In the last 20 years since he lost his son and allowed himself to lose Mayte, I don't think anyone was aware of Prince, the man. Perhaps, they saw snippets of it but to be truly stripped to the core...Nope.

I think he portrayed himself to these girls, in his flirtatious ways, but not necessarily a romanctic vibe. Damaris and Cat are the ONLY two to ever be honest and say it was nothing more than a close relationship. I have full respect for them. I just feel, Judith could have had better timing and left what were in her mind "the intimate" details out. This is just my opinion. I feel she did herself a diservice by doing so. I feel this child was madly in love with him and perhaps somewhat led on by him. Who do you blame? It happens.

I feel as if she was trying to gobble up some limelight. I think there may be some jealousy issues in these other women.

I just find it odd. Period.

Tamar has also stated that Prince was like her Uncle, always the gentleman. Now, with regard to Cat, I will NEVER believe that she and Prince were not lovers. Never.

razord said:

It's very interesting to hear of her account as an actual witness to events on that flight, sheds more light on his passing when it happened,hopefully means he passed quickly, I'm glad she came forward now to tell this story, and didn't jump on the publicity bandwagon right away, I think kirks silence means he's covering something up, I think he knows a lot more of what the story was with prince's addiction.

i'm with you on this. i am still wondering what's up the the assistant merone. since when does someone like prince fly w/o his assistant. the facts of his death seem pretty clear, the only issue is how and why did he take the fentynl and where did he get it. all this hullabaloo suggests that there was not a script,and therefore it was illegal. next question is who was the hook up? all signs point to KJ and his Dr. S, however well-meaning and loyal. if p was getting the stuff online,it would clear from his laptop,which they got when they searched PP.

+++those bitchy comments about who's a better friend are so triffling and telling of those who participate,including that bitch, van who started the whole thing months ago. and what's the whole story kiran....... damaris...............damaris said she had no idea of his physical problems, just a spot of flu she said. did someone suddenly fill her in?

+++p was such a dear man,exceptional is so many ways. i hate they he couldn't or wouldn't surround himself with more mature and caring people. i get that these 20 something were substitutes for the children he wanted to have and mentor but there should always be balance. clearly there was none. a lackey/errand boy of 30yrs standing does not counter all the children running around.

+++hurts my heart.

purplethunder3121 said:

AnnaSantana said:

wavesofbliss said:

NinaB said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Penguins tho? I mean! penguins?!!

OK, somebody needs to explain the penguin girl to me. Direct me to the thread!

jumanji2016 said:

MrNelson7 said:

RachB65 said:

jokocur said:

Don't be hatin on me but I think being the private person that he is he may have had second thoughts about this whole rehab plan... He was a control freak ... No one can dispute that... And he always gave the appearance of being in control so that and the fact that he could have been dillusioned by his faith in God ... Like how did I turn into a drug addict... Could have lead him to say fuck it.. I just can't see him coming out of rehab or him given the appearance of being vulnerable to anything...plus the fact that Hill claims it was the hardest thing he ever did was fight his way back from this near death episode... Why would he play with fire alone... If he knew in his mind he would have been dead on that flight without people right next to him bringing him back from the brink of death.... Think about it...

Don't assume the two events are the same.

All we heard from the plane event was Percocet. He was unresponsive and in trouble, but obviously breathing. He'd have died on the plane in the time it took them to get to the Moline airport.

Fentanyl never came up until the cause of death was released.

I see it more as a "one last time before rehab" pain relief that went wrong.

1Sasha said:

bondno9 said:

Sooo basically this is her stating she has been cleared of any wrongdoing?!?

So Judith flies to LA from Minneapolis, and Prince calls Tamron Hall to come out for the weekend and she declines because she had work obligations. Whose people called whom on this article: no back-up singer gets a New York Times article out of the box. The preeminent paper in the world just happens to interview her? As far as romance is concerned: I thought Prince was Mr. Celibate for years now - at least that was what he said. There is more to this than what she has related. JMO

Oh yes, there is much more than what she related. The whole article was about damage control. She's trying to "separate" herself from everyone else involved.