Yeah I don't believe she is trying to just get attention, no one needs it that bad this whole thing is a s**t storm. I have been trippin' that it's been to quiet on what happened to Prince, what is going on. But now I am starting to think due to the investigation alot of people in his life were asked to refrain from comments. And the fact that she is now talking is telling that we are about to get a press conference or information on the investigation of his death.

Would have been shocking to witness.

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batman89 said:

The question that lingers with me after reading the article is...Was it indeed Prince's time to pass there on the plane? For him to have passed so (seemingly) peacefully in the presence of his 2 friends after 2 brilliant shows that night may have been his blessing. Considering his comment of how it was the hardest thing he ever had to do to make the transition back to his body, (recalling his tweet "Eye Am Transformed")...could it be that was simply his time to make his Way Back Home? Being he ultimately passed such a short time later...alone, I wish for him that he could have been with his friends at that moment.

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If it was his time to pass then it would of happened on the plane. I believe he may have had an NDE (near death experience). Some folks that have an NDE come back with a different outlook on life and things.

batman89 said:

The question that lingers with me after reading the article is...Was it indeed Prince's time to pass there on the plane? For him to have passed so (seemingly) peacefully in the presence of his 2 friends after 2 brilliant shows that night may have been his blessing. Considering his comment of how it was the hardest thing he ever had to do to make the transition back to his body, (recalling his tweet "Eye Am Transformed")...could it be that was simply his time to make his Way Back Home? Being he ultimately passed such a short time later...alone, I wish for him that he could have been with his friends at that moment.

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Wow never thought of that, geez. As you can tell my the time I cannot sleep due to this new information. It's kinda haunting me.

batman89 said:

The question that lingers with me after reading the article is...Was it indeed Prince's time to pass there on the plane? For him to have passed so (seemingly) peacefully in the presence of his 2 friends after 2 brilliant shows that night may have been his blessing. Considering his comment of how it was the hardest thing he ever had to do to make the transition back to his body, (recalling his tweet "Eye Am Transformed")...could it be that was simply his time to make his Way Back Home? Being he ultimately passed such a short time later...alone, I wish for him that he could have been with his friends at that moment.

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who knows, we can't ask him about it now. he did seem much closer to the spirit world lately, i heard he spoke of astral projections and such. the idea of a person's time being fixed isn't new. Many people have been told "go back it isn't your time" in NDE's also, Sam Kinison supposedly was heard speaking to some entity and the way his friends pieced together the conversation, based just off of his words, it sounded like an angel telling him it was his time. He kept saying "I don't want to go" and "why now?". Bruce Lee had a close call with death just a few weeks before he died, they barely saved his life but he never spoke of anything on the other side, he did however always have a premonition that he'd die young.

Dammit, I was so trying not to log in. Had to take a break from this forum as so many hateful unhelpful people posting really nasty stuff.

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But this whole issue is ridiculous.

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These women sound like petty jealous bishes. The fact that Judith was even with him on that plane, just her, him and Kirk and whatever staff, that is enough to get them jealous. Also she is saying she was close to him. These part-time women Kiran and Demarius (whatever), they seem distant. Judith seemed to be around him and closer, more so than even Sheila towards the end of his life.

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Jealousy is a sad sad fact. And these women are truly showing it. Right now they are playing the one-upmanship game. 'I'm respecting his privacy, therefore I'm better than you'. Yet Kiran drops hints saying there is more to the story. Judith told her side of what happened that night. If Kiran wasn't there, how the feck does she know theres more to the story? Attention seeking.

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So childish, and as the Godfather would say 'so unnecessary'.

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Respect his privacy?

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Also, I don't believe that this forum has anything to do with whether people talk or not. Its a gossip site. Prince's family don't seem to take any notice of what is speculated here. (my speculation).They are clearly doing their own thing regardless.

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Added Edit, to say that at the end of it all, Prince is to blame. We are in charge of our own lives and if we choose certain people to have around us, people who are too young or inexperienced so that we always have the upper hand, people who we can control, people who want to get famous, people that are cute but nothing else, people you pay, then you get what you get. And unfortunately for all of us, he is no longer here because of his own choices.

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Hard facts.

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StopIt said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

StopIt said:

this is consistent with that early, very disturbed act of her handing out her CDs where he just died. Hell no, under no circumstances does that insanity pass the smell test.

terrig said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I guarantee you something is about to go down with the criminal investigation and this is Judith's publicist doing damage control. You dont see a man almost die and then fly out to LA and then 'tip" other peeps about what happened. This article is all PR. Nothing else.

THANK YOU.

The events on that plane leading up to Princes death are not a backdrop 'vehicle' for Judiths magical journey, oh and lets promote her musical roots and tour while we discuss Prince ODing on the plane.

WTF

I get madder everytime I read it.

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Stopit, I really hope that isn't true.

One thing reading this article that I appreciate is that he didn't want to die, and came back no matter how hard it was to it.

disch said:

I'm kind of tired of the various self-proclaimed good/best friends declaring what other friends/associates should and should not talk about publicly.

Prince is gone and, frankly, he left no instructions (will, etc.) that would indicate what he thought should happen to his legacy after his death. So it's not clear to me that ideas about his "privacy" are exactly the same now as during his life.

Sharing information can help some fans, such as those who stuck with him for decades, make sense of this. And it might help others suffering from similar problems. So I think all these good friends should do whatever they feel is best and let others do the same and refrain from commenting on it.

Yep.

batman89 said:

The question that lingers with me after reading the article is...Was it indeed Prince's time to pass there on the plane? For him to have passed so (seemingly) peacefully in the presence of his 2 friends after 2 brilliant shows that night may have been his blessing. Considering his comment of how it was the hardest thing he ever had to do to make the transition back to his body, (recalling his tweet "Eye Am Transformed")...could it be that was simply his time to make his Way Back Home? Being he ultimately passed such a short time later...alone, I wish for him that he could have been with his friends at that moment.

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It's my understanding that Prince, himself, did not write that "I am transformed" tweet -- it was a RETWEET he posted from a fan who'd attended one of the last shows and was in reference TO that show. Prince was merely RE-tweeting what someone else wrote.

StephanieThePisces said:

batman89 said:

The question that lingers with me after reading the article is...Was it indeed Prince's time to pass there on the plane? For him to have passed so (seemingly) peacefully in the presence of his 2 friends after 2 brilliant shows that night may have been his blessing. Considering his comment of how it was the hardest thing he ever had to do to make the transition back to his body, (recalling his tweet "Eye Am Transformed")...could it be that was simply his time to make his Way Back Home? Being he ultimately passed such a short time later...alone, I wish for him that he could have been with his friends at that moment.

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It's my understanding that Prince, himself, did not write that "I am transformed" tweet -- it was a RETWEET he posted from a fan who'd attended one of the last shows and was in reference TO that show. Prince was merely RE-tweeting what someone else wrote.

Stephanie...you are indeed right. I just recalled the tweet itself as I posted, but not the original source.

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

I feel sorry for Ms. Hill, she must be going through a lot. As a woman, find it really sad that women continue to be such bitches towards eachother. Those tweets about Ms. Hill's article are filled with jealousy. It sound like a clear case of "I was a better friend than you were" or "he liked me more" kinda vibe. Silly and contradictory. Why imply that someone should keep their mouth shut and then conclude the sentence with a "there's more to the story"? Just to make it look that they know somethin else we and especially Ms. Hill clearly doesn't. Even the "Why has this been romanticised" comment makes it sound like Ms. Hill might be lying about her closeness/romance with Prince.

This trait in women really pisses me off. We are always competing and putting other women down. Really sad.

Of course there's a lot of stuff that makes no sense still. Probably we'll never know. How could Ms. Hill not know of his pain and/or addiction/painkiller dependency problems if she was with him for the last two years straight, and then Lenny Kravitz says in a radio interview that he has a good idea of what happened to Prince? Same with Sheila E.
It's good that most people aren't talking and respecting his privacy, but then they should not hammer those who do say something, even if it's as harmless as Ms. Hill's article. Otherwise it just seems like they are getting pissed off that somebody else might be coming across as having been really close to Prince, thus diminishing their own closeness to him. Again, jealousy and competition. Like his other friend Van something, stating that "we're just waiting to see who is real and who is not" and that "Prince predicted who the phonies would be". Constant friendship competition, imo. Sad.

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tmo1965 said:

luv4u said:

batman89 said:

The question that lingers with me after reading the article is...Was it indeed Prince's time to pass there on the plane? For him to have passed so (seemingly) peacefully in the presence of his 2 friends after 2 brilliant shows that night may have been his blessing. Considering his comment of how it was the hardest thing he ever had to do to make the transition back to his body, (recalling his tweet "Eye Am Transformed")...could it be that was simply his time to make his Way Back Home? Being he ultimately passed such a short time later...alone, I wish for him that he could have been with his friends at that moment.

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If it was his time to pass then it would of happened on the plane. I believe he may have had an NDE (near death experience). Some folks that have an NDE come back with a different outlook on life and things.

I know a couple of people who have had NDE and yes, they changed their lives completely. Even their personalities changed. Also, some become extremely selfish. This woman I know left her husband and kids because she had always felt so miserable in the marriage. The NDE changed her mind so much that all of a sudden it became about her and her alone. Enjoying life to the fullest. Her kids are now adults and very disfunctional, let me tell you.
After reading this, I'm still stuck with the thought that he should not have been left alone after the plane incident, now even more so after reading Ms. Hill's account of what happened...

Kiran deleted her tweet from last night in which she said that if Judith was going to say anything she should have said it all...the whole truth.

batman89 said:

StephanieThePisces said:

It's my understanding that Prince, himself, did not write that "I am transformed" tweet -- it was a RETWEET he posted from a fan who'd attended one of the last shows and was in reference TO that show. Prince was merely RE-tweeting what someone else wrote.

Stephanie...you are indeed right. I just recalled the tweet itself as I posted, but not the original source.

It's an easy thing to do - so many media outlets, even our local news here in the MPLS area, reported that tweet as being made by Prince so everything gets so jumbled up. And (imo) Twitter is confusing as it is with trying to figure out what's a retweet and who actually wrote what with all the strings of "@whoever@someotherperson@somebodyelse". argh!

PeteSilas said:

batman89 said:

The question that lingers with me after reading the article is...Was it indeed Prince's time to pass there on the plane? For him to have passed so (seemingly) peacefully in the presence of his 2 friends after 2 brilliant shows that night may have been his blessing. Considering his comment of how it was the hardest thing he ever had to do to make the transition back to his body, (recalling his tweet "Eye Am Transformed")...could it be that was simply his time to make his Way Back Home? Being he ultimately passed such a short time later...alone, I wish for him that he could have been with his friends at that moment.

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who knows, we can't ask him about it now. he did seem much closer to the spirit world lately, i heard he spoke of astral projections and such. the idea of a person's time being fixed isn't new. Many people have been told "go back it isn't your time" in NDE's also, Sam Kinison supposedly was heard speaking to some entity and the way his friends pieced together the conversation, based just off of his words, it sounded like an angel telling him it was his time. He kept saying "I don't want to go" and "why now?". Bruce Lee had a close call with death just a few weeks before he died, they barely saved his life but he never spoke of anything on the other side, he did however always have a premonition that he'd die young.

I remember reading that about Sam Kinison as well.

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I've been interested in this type of thing all my life, and even more so after my mother had an experience (not sure if it'd qualify as an NDE, although *I* would call it one).

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My mother, who passed away almost exactly two years ago, was a diabetic and had many other health problems in her final years so she was in and out of the hospital a lot during that time. One night while in the hospital, she had an incident of dangerously low blood sugar and she told me that when it started, she felt the physical manifestations of low sugar but then she said the next thing she knew she was standing by the window in her hospital room (note: in her last years my mom couldn't walk without the aid of a walker because she'd lost her equilibrium due to antibiotic treatments so her standing, unaided, or at least her spirit 'standing' by the window was significant to me in regards to this experience), watching the nurses working on her. She said she didn't feel anything, no pain, nothing. She said she "felt fine". She said she stood there at the window, watching them and then suddenly she was waking up in bed, again in her body. She never heard a voice telling her to go back, or felt resistent to returning to her body, nothing like that...she just felt 'good', she said, and stood there watching the medical personnel working on her. I really don't know what to make of that experience even after quizzing her about it many times, as there is a lot of it that doesn't 'fit' with what others have felt or seen or experienced during classic NDEs, but I truly feel she was at least close to death at that point in time and it comforts me to think that when one passes, your consciousness still continues, but no longer with any pain or fear.

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[Edited to add: this experience didn't seem to alter my mom one way or another about death. She was a Catholic of strong faith in God and in the idea of heaven and there being more beyond this life (she'd often tell me, since childhood, that our bodies are merely the clothes we wear while on this earth and one day when those clothes wear out, we'll shed them and move on to the next step of our existence. I asked her straight out once, "Are you scared of dying?" and she said calmly, "No because I know that this isn't all there is, this life is only part of it all.") So after this experience in the hospital, she didn't have a different outlook on death or how she lived her life or anything, in fact she never brought up the experience, it was always me who started conversations about it.]

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bondno9 said:

Sooo basically this is her stating she has been cleared of any wrongdoing?!?

So Judith flies to LA from Minneapolis, and Prince calls Tamron Hall to come out for the weekend and she declines because she had work obligations. Whose people called whom on this article: no back-up singer gets a New York Times article out of the box. The preeminent paper in the world just happens to interview her? As far as romance is concerned: I thought Prince was Mr. Celibate for years now - at least that was what he said. There is more to this than what she has related. JMO

THis is a bullshit sell out. I am sure that Prince wouldnt want her talking to the NYT being one of the only people on that plane with him. I havent heard Kirk talking about it as I suspect he is a true friend of Prince. I never liked this broad and now I have confirmation.

all7even said:

In before you guys bash this poor child, I feel for her, damn.

I dont

FUNKYNESS said:

FUNKYNESS said:

THis is a bullshit sell out. I am sure that Prince wouldnt want her talking to the NYT being one of the only people on that plane with him. I havent heard Kirk talking about it as I suspect he is a true friend of Prince. I never liked this broad and now I have confirmation.

I think Kirk isn't talking for a few more reasons beyond just being a 'true friend of Prince'. JMO