wildgoldenhoney said:

BillieBalloon said:

It doesn't make sense to me that prince would almost die on the plane from perecot and then a week later take something a hundred times stronger and pass away. Surely he wouldn't Jump out of the frying pan and into the fire like that? We don't know for sure it wasn't fentanyl on the plane do we?

The initial details of the plane event said "Percocet" and (except for the length of time he spent at the hospital), those reports turned out to be correct.

WHAT IF it had been Percocet....and he flushed whatever supply he had, in an effort to be clean?

Then, "increasingly agitated" (per reports), he found a fentanyl stash at Paisley? It seems to have been just one patch, described as "on him".

When one's been clean for awhile, the dose you've been used to can be detrimental.

ya, but he wasn't stupid, why, why why, that's all i can say, why would a guy who did have a lot of self-discipline do it so soon after the near death? makes not sense, if that wouldn't scare him nothing would.

RachB65 said:

BillieBalloon said:

PeteSilas said:

panpac777 said:

Tresha68 said:

PeteSilas said:

ya, but he wasn't stupid, why, why why, that's all i can say, why would a guy who did have a lot of self-discipline do it so soon after the near death? makes not sense, if that wouldn't scare him nothing would.

Addicts do not think that way. My brother was an addict, he's 14 years c&s. I say addict because it is evident he was sadly addicted. It doesn't matter that he had a NDE. His brain was chemically dependent to these drugs, much like my brother. My brother detoxed alone in his room. He could have died. He wasn't stupid. He was a man whose brain and body were dependent on chemicals. He physically needed them. I don't think anyone since Mayte has seen the stripped down man Prince was. He was open to her and when he lost their son and he allowed himself to lose her, he seemed never to be the same person. Understandably, What he needed was counseling, for both emotional and chemical issues. I do think Judith romanticized their relationship. Prince wrote his life like a song. Sadly, she seems very naive. He's free now. I wish him peace. [Edited 6/22/16 19:02pm]

half my brain knows that, i had a sister who pretty much drank herself to death and no matter what anyone told her, she still would fall off the wagon. Still, I can't quite understand that kind of thing, i asked her the same question one time when she almost died. i was pissed off and frustrated and exhausted too.

starkitty said:

I'M AN ASSHOLE but it felt like she had to let us know he was her man

I don't believe Judith was dating him romantically.

I am noticing all of these "after stories" about Prince and how they felt about him and how they say he made them feel. How he told them he loved them and would always be there for them, etc. I honestly think that Prince was that kind of person that made you feel like you were his best friend and that HE was yours.

I am noticing all of these "after stories" about Prince and how they felt about him and how they say he made them feel. How he told them he loved them and would always be there for them, etc. I honestly think that Prince was that kind of person that made you feel like you were his best friend and that HE was yours.

Judith Hill was mostly likely a musician he was helping "at the time" and then they became close associates. That's it. He probably had other associates who he was closer with during the last 2 or 3 years of his life and some we hear about, some we don't.

Fact of the matter is, we don't know who was close to Prince. Or who he was really close to. Damaris said they had a special, close friendship, Tamron said they were BFFs, now you got Judith saying how much he meant her, same with Mayte and Mani.

I mean goodness, this man had these women whipped

[Edited 6/22/16 19:58pm]

i'm skeptical of all of them. Elvis had a lot of women claiming him too. some stripper in vegas, tura sutana, claimed to teach him his stage moves, even darlene love said elvis made a pass and said he'd never been with a black girl. truth is, elvis was with black girls before he was elvis.

Tresha68 said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

Tresha68 said:

I keep reading Mani knew. I obviously missed something.

Well, she made a snippy comment before. But she didn't help him.

is that your pic wild? anyway, mani's statement is vague i didn't know if she meant Prince had mental or drug issues or both. wendy and lisa mentioned something about Prince that they said wouldn't get better as he got older, i thought they may have been saying he was manic which would make sense to me.

PeteSilas said:

Tresha68 said:

Its all PR for Judith Hill. The article is self serving.

This article intended for you to feel sorry for her. The article served it's purpose.

Did she tell this tale to Prince's family before going to the media?

Its obvious this article was orchestrated by her publicist.

Dont be fooled.

She was only an industry "friend" of Prince.

It makes me feel so sorry for Prince, and the last thing I ever wanted for Prince was for me to feel sorry for him.

I couldnt imagine a life without a friend....somewhere, anywhere, anyone.... that wouldnt sell their soul to the media.

If you were a friend a Prince, you wouldnt go to the media to release INTIMATE details so soon.

Also, Judith wants you to know..."I am on tour now, buy your tickets, y'all!"

Karma.

[Edited 6/22/16 22:42pm]

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

AnnaStesia10 said:

Wow! Even though I agree she is saying alot without say anything that is frustrating. But sadly this is the most we have gotten in weeks. It sounds to me like she is admitting he knew he had a drug issue and was trying to seek help. So this poses more questions in my mind, what the heck happened on 4/20-4/21/16? I don't see if he had a close call like that using the same drugs that almost killed him just 6 days prior. Man, have more questions now. Unless the whole ordeal just wore his body out. And yet they found Fentanyl in his system wonder how long that stays in your system? Oh man, oh man.

That basically is addiction in a torturous & devastating nutshell tho...

2020 said:

This is very comforting to hear some real news of what exactly happened. So glad she was with him and that he was dedicated to getting the help he needed. As others have stated very confusing why he would ever be left alone under such circumstances

That's easy for us to think that, but this is Prince we're talking about, their boss - for all intents and purposes, and even if not directly... If he pointedly said I'm going up to sleep now, alone (or whatever the heck went down), who were they to/how were they to fight him on that?

nursev said:

nursev said:

makeadifference said:

I'm glad he left this world in the middle of such a close friendship. I'm sorry Judith has to bear the burden of "what if."

I'm now starting to wonder just how serious his hip pain really was. If she was so close to him, how did she not know he was in major pain? She said he moved "swiftly" and there was no evidence of hip pain. Also, the YouTuber .. Maya, I think her name was, who photographed Prince for his last album said the same thing .. no evidence of pain and that he moved swiftly in platform flip flops or something. Has there ever been footage of him hobbling? I'm wondering if somehow he got hooked on the painkillers but without the pain. The reason I bring this up is because it explains how he could have hid his addiction so well.

He hid it cause he was a perfectionist....the man was all about his craft. His fans wouldve rather he retired though. At least he'd still be here. Can you imagine the amount of pain he was in while performing? Breaks my heart.

Purpleone4Eva said:

cindyt said:

ForeverPaisley said:

PeteSilas said:

nursev said:

Not really...remember this is a man who hid the death of his child too. Prince only let you see or know just what you needed to and nothing more. People function with pain daily.

absolutely, as we all learned later, the death of his son was a tragedy which scarred him, at the time, people were speculating that something was wrong with him because his public appearances made it appear that nothing was out of the ordinary.

I agree.

jumanji2016 said:

disch said:

I agree. Some are assuming that that his hip pain was current and severe, but we don't actually know that, any more than we know anything else about his health history.

It's possible that the hip surgery he had (evidence being the hip scar noted in his death report) alleviated his pain but sadly he was already addicted to the pain medication at that point. We just don't know

I think it was very severe just in analyzing all of the type of movements he used to do and some he continued to do. The guy did splits until he was 40. Even after that he continued to dance significantly. I've seen video footage of the falls he used to take on stage---that shit would have me sore for a few days and I'm 27. Dancers are athletes, they soak in bath salts after performances just like basketball players and football players. Not sure why people are so quick to undermine the severity of his condition, because he didn't run around town bitching about it or telling everyone his business. The average 57-year-old, that hasn't lived life as a dancer or physical performer has hip-and-joint problems. As much as we treated him like an enigma, he was still FIFTY-SEVEN. Michael Jackson died at 50, and his autopsy revealed that he was suffering from osteo-arthritis. Prince probably had arthritis, bursitis, agitated pain from hip surgery, etc. and everything else that people his age typically encounter PLUS more from all that he gave on stage. (P.S. Morris Day said he had that surgery YEARS ago, because he suggested it after he had his own. The scar just confirms it. Not sure why people still pontificate over this.) Surgery can only do so much.

Exactly, and osteo-artritis is debilitating on it's own. Also, it is possible that his other hip was experiencing pain, from inadvertantly overcompensating post surgery of the other hip. And, some people do not get relief from hip replacement (which is tragic because it is an extremely traumatic ordeal for your body - to go through and not get relief from it is too sad). Also, people thinking he couldn't been in that much pain just because he didn't show it, Prince was exceptional at creating outward appearances that didn't reveal what was really going on underneath the layers.