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Reply #990 posted 07/21/16 12:30pm

RachB65

babet said:


LBrent said:



Something that always has bugged me since day one has been the reported order of people who passed through PP between the time P was found and the actual time that EMS actually walked into PP. We may never know the exact amount of time that the first person walked in and found him. I suspect that whoever was the very first person to find him might have cleaned up any suspicious evidence that they felt might cast P in a bad light, then called the next person who could be trusted and THEN things started rolling officially. Taking a half hour or more wouldn't have mattered at that point if the first person to find him recognized that P was already gone. Official reports say he was most likely deceased for upwards of several hours. So, you walk in, see he's obviously gone, hide whatever or call person #2 and together you hide whatever and get your story straight, then call whoever else and then call EMS/911. I don't believe that an entire group found him together then called 911. [Edited 7/19/16 14:13pm]





RachB65 said:


morningsong said:




The first people to find him weren't that calm according to Andrew Kornfield, he was the one who thought to call 911 in the first place. The other people were in hysterics.



That is what i remember reading also. Mr. Kornfeld heard the hysterics and came upon the scene in the elevator...He was the only one calm enough to call 911 [Edited 7/19/16 17:11pm]



We don't know what the investigators found in his place, if the staff is claiming they didn't know he was on anything, (they had to know something was off with Prince). They would not even know what to look for. Plus people that are on drugs, especially as secretative as Prince would never leave that laying around for anyone to find, would actually hide it. If one of his staff found any drugs, they could had sold the information and photos to National Enquirer and get a 10 year pay day for the information. At the rate he was making frequent trips to Walgreens, whatever he had he was using up at a fast rate. You can be sure he did not have a surplus stock pile of fenytal or street drugs, any one with an addicition disease uses the drugs as fast as they cop it. If the EMT's were not called right away perhaps the doctor there was trying to revive him even though he knew he was probably gone, but tried anyway (it's his job to try). Reports say he was dead for almost 6 hours, so what would the rush be at that point? I said it before I will say again, unfortunately Prince was to blame for his dismise. He refused to stay in the hospital after the save shot, (no private rooms? you take a bed by the window and keep the curtain drawn the person in the next bed probably would not even know who was there until a private room opened) that is no excuse to check out of a hospital in his addicted state and near death experience. That should have been a rude awakening and a warning of what was to come.



I am curious to know


1)what happened between the time he returned home around 8:00PM and 3:00AM, if he let anyone in during those times, if he went to door to get any packages.


2)when he was found in the elevator? was he leaving his living quarters?, was he at the main door and returning up to his living quarters? was he in the studio and going to his living quarters?



There is alot of information that is not being released to the public, what the security cameras showed and door opening and closing times, as far as people in and out between 8PM - 3PM. What they may have found in his living quarters, if anything? (I think not a hell of alot). What area and floor of Pasely Park was he found on? Did one of his staff members hit the elevator button in the lobby and did it come to the lobby and they found him in it when the door opened? Or was the elevator stopped on the floor with him in it? Was he blocking the doors from closing? Did he hit an alarm button in the elevator which brought the staff there and then the 2 doctors? and Kornfield on that early flight ? he had to be on the first flight out of CA, like a red eye, 5AM, because he got a call at 3:30AM or 4AM? SO many things we don't know and so much information has not been made public.

[Edited 7/20/16 15:30pm]



Its been established that he was not getting prescriptions for opiates at the Walgreens he was seen at the night before he died.

The doctor supposedley showed up AFTER the EMTs were at PP.

The "no private rooms" @ the hospital was bs and P stayed in the hospital for 18 hours after he arrived there.
[Edited 7/21/16 12:43pm]
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Reply #991 posted 07/21/16 12:34pm

RachB65

morningsong said:

babet said:


LBrent said:



Something that always has bugged me since day one has been the reported order of people who passed through PP between the time P was found and the actual time that EMS actually walked into PP. We may never know the exact amount of time that the first person walked in and found him. I suspect that whoever was the very first person to find him might have cleaned up any suspicious evidence that they felt might cast P in a bad light, then called the next person who could be trusted and THEN things started rolling officially. Taking a half hour or more wouldn't have mattered at that point if the first person to find him recognized that P was already gone. Official reports say he was most likely deceased for upwards of several hours. So, you walk in, see he's obviously gone, hide whatever or call person #2 and together you hide whatever and get your story straight, then call whoever else and then call EMS/911. I don't believe that an entire group found him together then called 911. [Edited 7/19/16 14:13pm]





RachB65 said:


morningsong said:




The first people to find him weren't that calm according to Andrew Kornfield, he was the one who thought to call 911 in the first place. The other people were in hysterics.



That is what i remember reading also. Mr. Kornfeld heard the hysterics and came upon the scene in the elevator...He was the only one calm enough to call 911 [Edited 7/19/16 17:11pm]



We don't know what the investigators found in his place, if the staff is claiming they didn't know he was on anything, (they had to know something was off with Prince). They would not even know what to look for. Plus people that are on drugs, especially as secretative as Prince would never leave that laying around for anyone to find, would actually hide it. If one of his staff found any drugs, they could had sold the information and photos to National Enquirer and get a 10 year pay day for the information. At the rate he was making frequent trips to Walgreens, whatever he had he was using up at a fast rate. You can be sure he did not have a surplus stock pile of fenytal or street drugs, any one with an addicition disease uses the drugs as fast as they cop it. If the EMT's were not called right away perhaps the doctor there was trying to revive him even though he knew he was probably gone, but tried anyway (it's his job to try). Reports say he was dead for almost 6 hours, so what would the rush be at that point? I said it before I will say again, unfortunately Prince was to blame for his dismise. He refused to stay in the hospital after the save shot, (no private rooms? you take a bed by the window and keep the curtain drawn the person in the next bed probably would not even know who was there until a private room opened) that is no excuse to check out of a hospital in his addicted state and near death experience. That should have been a rude awakening and a warning of what was to come.



I am curious to know


1)what happened between the time he returned home around 8:00PM and 3:00AM, if he let anyone in during those times, if he went to door to get any packages.


2)when he was found in the elevator? was he leaving his living quarters?, was he at the main door and returning up to his living quarters? was he in the studio and going to his living quarters?



There is alot of information that is not being released to the public, what the security cameras showed and door opening and closing times, as far as people in and out between 8PM - 3PM. What they may have found in his living quarters, if anything? (I think not a hell of alot). What area and floor of Pasely Park was he found on? Did one of his staff members hit the elevator button in the lobby and did it come to the lobby and they found him in it when the door opened? Or was the elevator stopped on the floor with him in it? Was he blocking the doors from closing? Did he hit an alarm button in the elevator which brought the staff there and then the 2 doctors? and Kornfield on that early flight ? he had to be on the first flight out of CA, like a red eye, 5AM, because he got a call at 3:30AM or 4AM? SO many things we don't know and so much information has not been made public.

[Edited 7/20/16 15:30pm]




You are a perpetrator of a lot of false information.



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Reply #992 posted 07/21/16 12:45pm

morningsong

babet said:

LBrent said:
I find it difficult to believe that as private as he was, he'd confide...Never mind.
I agree. I was in a similar situation I dated a single mayor from the Midwest I live in NYC. First 2 times I was in his company he was smoking crack in the bedroom hotel suite the third time was the last when he did it in front of me. They get complacent. I also said to myself he is dying or over dosing when I am with him I am not going to be dragged into this. I was an innocent bystander I met him at the Super Bowl I had no idea. I knew something was up when he kept going into the bedroom and closing the door. Speculation he didn't confide in her per se she was in his company often enough she walked in on him doing it then he did it in front of her. It would have been her word against his. It seems she reported the incident out of concern. Not notarity.



I still find it strange you seem to find all the tidbits of misinformation. Sorry for your particular situation but one size does not fit all, so it doesn't mean because it happened to you that it automatically happened here.

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Reply #993 posted 07/21/16 12:58pm

LBrent

morningsong said:



babet said:


LBrent said:
I find it difficult to believe that as private as he was, he'd confide...Never mind.

I agree. I was in a similar situation I dated a single mayor from the Midwest I live in NYC. First 2 times I was in his company he was smoking crack in the bedroom hotel suite the third time was the last when he did it in front of me. They get complacent. I also said to myself he is dying or over dosing when I am with him I am not going to be dragged into this. I was an innocent bystander I met him at the Super Bowl I had no idea. I knew something was up when he kept going into the bedroom and closing the door. Speculation he didn't confide in her per se she was in his company often enough she walked in on him doing it then he did it in front of her. It would have been her word against his. It seems she reported the incident out of concern. Not notarity.



I still find it strange you seem to find all the tidbits of misinformation. Sorry for your particular situation but one size does not fit all, so it doesn't mean because it happened to you that it automatically happened here.



I didn't want to sound insensitive, but I'm glad somebody said it.
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Reply #994 posted 07/21/16 2:11pm

morningsong

LBrent said:

morningsong said:



I still find it strange you seem to find all the tidbits of misinformation. Sorry for your particular situation but one size does not fit all, so it doesn't mean because it happened to you that it automatically happened here.

I didn't want to sound insensitive, but I'm glad somebody said it.



I've become a little suspect. Some people have their own agendas, especially those never seen before. Time will tell.

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Reply #995 posted 07/21/16 3:50pm

babet

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LBrent said:

morningsong said:



I still find it strange you seem to find all the tidbits of misinformation. Sorry for your particular situation but one size does not fit all, so it doesn't mean because it happened to you that it automatically happened here.

I didn't want to sound insensitive, but I'm glad somebody said it.

I never said it happened with Prince, I said speculation and example.

Just as in my prior posts, I said very clearly:

"I believe" "Perhaps" "Maybe" "could have" in front of my statements, in the English language does not make it fact.

Nothing happened to me as far as the Mayor story, he did it to himself. I wanted no part of it. I have been around enough sucessful drug addicts and users to know they are the biggest anti drug people, biggest liars around.

I never want to believe that Prince did drugs or did this to himself, but you all seem to be denial. He is dead and he isn't coming back.

His opiate addiction didn't happen over night. The sad reality is he did it to himself. It was his choice to take opiates when he was in pain. Anyone can become addicted if they are not careful. He was not careful. If he was home 6 days prior to his death and not on the plane where people were able to help him he would had been dead already, you think that was an accident? I doubt it. He took the drugs. No one forced him to.

A hard pill to swallow including myself. He was addicted to opiates whether or not he intentionally mixed it with U47700 or not, it was a matter of time before his ultimate death. (since he did nothing to help himself) After an overdose as he had on the plane most people would have went straight from the hospital into rehab he did NOT. That again was his choice.

So stop making excuses and blaming everyone else for what he did to himself.

It does not change the fact the great musician and artist he was.

Again I suppose you will say it's mis information....

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Reply #996 posted 07/21/16 3:53pm

babet

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and really why would an anonymous woman call about his so called cocaine addiction out of the blue if he was a straight arrow clean health fanatic. SHe was concerned no matter what she thought he was on that night.

I mean really? Wake up.

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Reply #997 posted 07/21/16 3:55pm

morningsong

babet said:

and really why would an anonymous woman call about his so called cocaine addiction out of the blue if he was a straight arrow clean health fanatic. SHe was concerned no matter what she thought he was on that night.

I mean really? Wake up.



Maybe she got problems. Seen that more often than not. Elementary my dear Watson.

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Reply #998 posted 07/21/16 3:58pm

morningsong

babet said:

LBrent said:

morningsong said: I didn't want to sound insensitive, but I'm glad somebody said it.

I never said it happened with Prince, I said speculation and example.

Just as in my prior posts, I said very clearly:

"I believe" "Perhaps" "Maybe" "could have" in front of my statements, in the English language does not make it fact.

Nothing happened to me as far as the Mayor story, he did it to himself. I wanted no part of it. I have been around enough sucessful drug addicts and users to know they are the biggest anti drug people, biggest liars around.

I never want to believe that Prince did drugs or did this to himself, but you all seem to be denial. He is dead and he isn't coming back.

His opiate addiction didn't happen over night. The sad reality is he did it to himself. It was his choice to take opiates when he was in pain. Anyone can become addicted if they are not careful. He was not careful. If he was home 6 days prior to his death and not on the plane where people were able to help him he would had been dead already, you think that was an accident? I doubt it. He took the drugs. No one forced him to.

A hard pill to swallow including myself. He was addicted to opiates whether or not he intentionally mixed it with U47700 or not, it was a matter of time before his ultimate death. (since he did nothing to help himself) After an overdose as he had on the plane most people would have went straight from the hospital into rehab he did NOT. That again was his choice.

So stop making excuses and blaming everyone else for what he did to himself.

It does not change the fact the great musician and artist he was.

Again I suppose you will say it's mis information....



You really going for it ain't you? Get all up in it. Just go all the way there.

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Reply #999 posted 07/21/16 4:23pm

LBrent

morningsong said:



babet said:


and really why would an anonymous woman call about his so called cocaine addiction out of the blue if he was a straight arrow clean health fanatic. SHe was concerned no matter what she thought he was on that night.



I mean really? Wake up.





Maybe she got problems. Seen that more often than not. Elementary my dear Watson.



morningsong said:



babet said:




LBrent said:


morningsong said: I didn't want to sound insensitive, but I'm glad somebody said it.



I never said it happened with Prince, I said speculation and example.


Just as in my prior posts, I said very clearly:



"I believe" "Perhaps" "Maybe" "could have" in front of my statements, in the English language does not make it fact.



Nothing happened to me as far as the Mayor story, he did it to himself. I wanted no part of it. I have been around enough sucessful drug addicts and users to know they are the biggest anti drug people, biggest liars around.



I never want to believe that Prince did drugs or did this to himself, but you all seem to be denial. He is dead and he isn't coming back.



His opiate addiction didn't happen over night. The sad reality is he did it to himself. It was his choice to take opiates when he was in pain. Anyone can become addicted if they are not careful. He was not careful. If he was home 6 days prior to his death and not on the plane where people were able to help him he would had been dead already, you think that was an accident? I doubt it. He took the drugs. No one forced him to.



A hard pill to swallow including myself. He was addicted to opiates whether or not he intentionally mixed it with U47700 or not, it was a matter of time before his ultimate death. (since he did nothing to help himself) After an overdose as he had on the plane most people would have went straight from the hospital into rehab he did NOT. That again was his choice.



So stop making excuses and blaming everyone else for what he did to himself.



It does not change the fact the great musician and artist he was.



Again I suppose you will say it's mis information....





You really going for it ain't you? Get all up in it. Just go all the way there.



Um. Ok. You win.
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Reply #1000 posted 07/21/16 4:26pm

morningsong

LBrent said:

morningsong said:



You really going for it ain't you? Get all up in it. Just go all the way there.

Um. Ok. You win.



What did I win?

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Reply #1001 posted 07/21/16 5:12pm

LBrent

morningsong said:



LBrent said:


morningsong said:




You really going for it ain't you? Get all up in it. Just go all the way there.



Um. Ok. You win.



What did I win?



Not you. Lol

Sorry. I got distracted.
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Reply #1002 posted 07/21/16 6:43pm

morningsong

LBrent said:

morningsong said:



What did I win?

Not you. Lol Sorry. I got distracted.

OOOoooooohhh. okay. I was wondering. No probs.


There are too many camps roaming around with their own agendas, and that "face" I don't recognize. I want to know who this person be.

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Reply #1003 posted 07/21/16 10:02pm

LBrent

morningsong said:



LBrent said:


morningsong said:




What did I win?



Not you. Lol Sorry. I got distracted.

OOOooooohhh. okay. I was wondering. No probs.


There are too many camps roaming around with their own agendas, and that "face" I don't recognize. I want to know who this person be.



Guuuuurl, life is too short.

There was a time...but these days I try to stay out of drama, enjoy P pics, videos, etc and chill.
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Reply #1004 posted 07/22/16 4:35am

fortuneandsere
ndipity

Prince is outlived in age by the likes of Little Richard, Chuck Berry, MJ's parents, Keith Richards and er Mike Parry. Unbelievable.

George Best also managed to live 2 years longer, having been an alcoholic all his adult life, and I've seen tramps seemingly into their 60s get by.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #1005 posted 07/22/16 5:42am

LBrent

fortuneandserendipity said:

Prince is outlived in age by the likes of Little Richard, Chuck Berry, MJ's parents, Keith Richards and er Mike Parry. Unbelievable.



George Best also managed to live 2 years longer, having been an alcoholic all his adult life, and I've seen tramps seemingly into their 60s get by.



All of the Rolling Stones AND Dizzy Osbourne.

Boggles my mind for sure.
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Reply #1006 posted 07/22/16 7:39am

fortuneandsere
ndipity

LBrent said:

All of the Rolling Stones AND Dizzy Osbourne. Boggles my mind for sure.


Ah the Osbournes, best thing on tv back then. During the show it was revealed he had a healthy heart even though he couldn't run because his body was fucked. He also said recently he's allergic to two things only, that's caffeine and dust.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #1007 posted 07/22/16 8:04am

morningsong

LBrent said:

morningsong said:



LBrent said:


morningsong said:




What did I win?



Not you. Lol Sorry. I got distracted.

OOOooooohhh. okay. I was wondering. No probs.


There are too many camps roaming around with their own agendas, and that "face" I don't recognize. I want to know who this person be.



Guuuuurl, life is too short.

There was a time...but these days I try to stay out of drama, enjoy P pics, videos, etc and chill.





I hear you. But I want to know what really happened to our man, don't have much patience for a whole lot of foolishness and cray cray. So until I hear something legit or I passout I'm bringing my own brand of nutiness.
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Reply #1008 posted 07/22/16 9:16am

Menes

fortuneandserendipity said:

Prince is outlived in age by the likes of Little Richard, Chuck Berry, MJ's parents, Keith Richards and er Mike Parry. Unbelievable.

George Best also managed to live 2 years longer, having been an alcoholic all his adult life, and I've seen tramps seemingly into their 60s get by.

Each circumstance is different as is gene expression. For as many stars as we can name that outlived Prince, there are as many as you can name whose life was cut shorter. I would be even more specific and name those who died of drug overdose/mixture to show that it is , in fact, very believable.

1. Phillip Hoffman (46)

2. Cory Montieth (31)

3. Lisa Kelly ( 43)

4. Chris Kelly( 34)

5. Whitney Houston (46)

6. Amy Winehouse ( 27)

7. JImi Hendrix(27)

8. Janis Joplin( 27)

Just to name a few who were all under the age of 57.

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Reply #1009 posted 07/22/16 9:59am

KnightPhantom

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fortuneandserendipity said:

Prince is outlived in age by the likes of Little Richard, Chuck Berry, MJ's parents, Keith Richards and er Mike Parry. Unbelievable.

George Best also managed to live 2 years longer, having been an alcoholic all his adult life, and I've seen tramps seemingly into their 60s get by.

yeahthat I mean *seriously*....

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Reply #1010 posted 07/22/16 10:17am

herb4

Menes said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Prince is outlived in age by the likes of Little Richard, Chuck Berry, MJ's parents, Keith Richards and er Mike Parry. Unbelievable.

George Best also managed to live 2 years longer, having been an alcoholic all his adult life, and I've seen tramps seemingly into their 60s get by.

Each circumstance is different as is gene expression. For as many stars as we can name that outlived Prince, there are as many as you can name whose life was cut shorter. I would be even more specific and name those who died of drug overdose/mixture to show that it is , in fact, very believable.

1. Phillip Hoffman (46)

2. Cory Montieth (31)

3. Lisa Kelly ( 43)

4. Chris Kelly( 34)

5. Whitney Houston (46)

6. Amy Winehouse ( 27)

7. JImi Hendrix(27)

8. Janis Joplin( 27)

Just to name a few who were all under the age of 57.


Heath Ledger and River Phoenix

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Reply #1011 posted 07/22/16 10:24am

KnightPhantom

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Menes said:

Each circumstance is different as is gene expression. For as many stars as we can name that outlived Prince, there are as many as you can name whose life was cut shorter. I would be even more specific and name those who died of drug overdose/mixture to show that it is , in fact, very believable.

1. Phillip Hoffman (46)

2. Cory Montieth (31)

3. Lisa Kelly ( 43)

4. Chris Kelly( 34)

5. Whitney Houston (46)

6. Amy Winehouse ( 27)

7. JImi Hendrix(27)

8. Janis Joplin( 27)

Just to name a few who were all under the age of 57.

1. Phillip Hoffman (46) Heroin/cocaine

2. Cory Montieth (31) Heroin/cocaine (speedball)

3. Lisa Kelly ( 43) Multiple Drug Intoxication (died in rehab!)

4. Chris Kelly( 34) Heroin/cocaine (speedball)

5. Whitney Houston (46) Drowning due to heat disease and cocaine

6. Amy Winehouse ( 27) Alcohol poisioning/cocaine/E/heroin

7. JImi Hendrix(27) Heroin

8. Janis Joplin( 27) Heroin

Do you see a pattern here? Aside from Whitney, they all died of some kind of heroin OD. Also everyone on your list is a known long term drug abuser. Which, until it is proven, I don't believe Prince to b. Just my 2c observation.

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Reply #1012 posted 07/22/16 11:46am

herb4

KnightPhantom said:

Menes said:

Each circumstance is different as is gene expression. For as many stars as we can name that outlived Prince, there are as many as you can name whose life was cut shorter. I would be even more specific and name those who died of drug overdose/mixture to show that it is , in fact, very believable.

1. Phillip Hoffman (46)

2. Cory Montieth (31)

3. Lisa Kelly ( 43)

4. Chris Kelly( 34)

5. Whitney Houston (46)

6. Amy Winehouse ( 27)

7. JImi Hendrix(27)

8. Janis Joplin( 27)

Just to name a few who were all under the age of 57.

1. Phillip Hoffman (46) Heroin/cocaine

2. Cory Montieth (31) Heroin/cocaine (speedball)

3. Lisa Kelly ( 43) Multiple Drug Intoxication (died in rehab!)

4. Chris Kelly( 34) Heroin/cocaine (speedball)

5. Whitney Houston (46) Drowning due to heat disease and cocaine

6. Amy Winehouse ( 27) Alcohol poisioning/cocaine/E/heroin

7. JImi Hendrix(27) Heroin

8. Janis Joplin( 27) Heroin

Do you see a pattern here? Aside from Whitney, they all died of some kind of heroin OD. Also everyone on your list is a known long term drug abuser. Which, until it is proven, I don't believe Prince to b. Just my 2c observation.


Not Ledger and not MJ either.

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Reply #1013 posted 07/22/16 1:23pm

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The drug angle is a way to smear his name.

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Reply #1014 posted 07/22/16 2:42pm

herb4

muleFunk said:

The drug angle is a way to smear his name.

To what end? Just to sell papers?

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Reply #1015 posted 07/22/16 3:04pm

Menes

KnightPhantom said:

Menes said:

Each circumstance is different as is gene expression. For as many stars as we can name that outlived Prince, there are as many as you can name whose life was cut shorter. I would be even more specific and name those who died of drug overdose/mixture to show that it is , in fact, very believable.

1. Phillip Hoffman (46)

2. Cory Montieth (31)

3. Lisa Kelly ( 43)

4. Chris Kelly( 34)

5. Whitney Houston (46)

6. Amy Winehouse ( 27)

7. JImi Hendrix(27)

8. Janis Joplin( 27)

Just to name a few who were all under the age of 57.

1. Phillip Hoffman (46) Heroin/cocaine

2. Cory Montieth (31) Heroin/cocaine (speedball)

3. Lisa Kelly ( 43) Multiple Drug Intoxication (died in rehab!)

4. Chris Kelly( 34) Heroin/cocaine (speedball)

5. Whitney Houston (46) Drowning due to heat disease and cocaine

6. Amy Winehouse ( 27) Alcohol poisioning/cocaine/E/heroin

7. JImi Hendrix(27) Heroin

8. Janis Joplin( 27) Heroin

Do you see a pattern here? Aside from Whitney, they all died of some kind of heroin OD. Also everyone on your list is a known long term drug abuser. Which, until it is proven, I don't believe Prince to b. Just my 2c observation.

Yes , there is a pattern. It was intentional. He may have not been a long term drug user, We can ascertain that (a)he was seeking help for his addiction to a drug, and, (b) he died from the toxicity of a drug. Some believe (a), happened over night, I dont.

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Reply #1016 posted 07/22/16 3:17pm

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herb4 said:

muleFunk said:

The drug angle is a way to smear his name.

To what end? Just to sell papers?

https://www.youtube.com/w...pOo-DtgUjs

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Reply #1017 posted 07/22/16 4:01pm

RachB65

herb4 said:



KnightPhantom said:




Menes said:


Each circumstance is different as is gene expression. For as many stars as we can name that outlived Prince, there are as many as you can name whose life was cut shorter. I would be even more specific and name those who died of drug overdose/mixture to show that it is , in fact, very believable.


1. Phillip Hoffman (46)


2. Cory Montieth (31)


3. Lisa Kelly ( 43)


4. Chris Kelly( 34)


5. Whitney Houston (46)


6. Amy Winehouse ( 27)


7. JImi Hendrix(27)


8. Janis Joplin( 27)



Just to name a few who were all under the age of 57.



1. Phillip Hoffman (46) Heroin/cocaine


2. Cory Montieth (31) Heroin/cocaine (speedball)


3. Lisa Kelly ( 43) Multiple Drug Intoxication (died in rehab!)


4. Chris Kelly( 34) Heroin/cocaine (speedball)


5. Whitney Houston (46) Drowning due to heat disease and cocaine


6. Amy Winehouse ( 27) Alcohol poisioning/cocaine/E/heroin


7. JImi Hendrix(27) Heroin


8. Janis Joplin( 27) Heroin



Do you see a pattern here? Aside from Whitney, they all died of some kind of heroin OD. Also everyone on your list is a known long term drug abuser. Which, until it is proven, I don't believe Prince to b. Just my 2c observation.





Not Ledger and not MJ either.



Heath Ledger died of multiple drug toxicity that included opioids..So did Brittany Murphy, who also died of pneumonia. Heath was also sick with a respiratory infection/pneumonia..People who take opiates on a regular basiz always seem to be susceptible to pneumonia and other respiratory illnesses
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Reply #1018 posted 07/22/16 5:48pm

Jessica55

My first post so I'm really nervous. I wanted to reply to the posts about Dr. Howard Kornfeld but I was directed to this thread. I live in the Bay Area about 30 minutes away from Dr. Kornfeld, I have chronic pain and a doctor here who specializes in pain management, so I have some knowledge of him. I have no idea why anyone in Prince's circle thought he was appropriate for the situation. While the description of him on his website says he's board certified in pain and addiction, that's not true. The California Board of Medicine lists him as board certified only in emergency medicine and psychiatry and neurology/sleep medicine. His Recovery Without Walls is an outpatient clinic and if you want to see him and you don't live nearby, you stay in a private residence or a "local boutique hotel" near the clinic (this is the language from his website). It's in Mill Valley, California. There aren't any hotels nearby where Prince would want to stay. There are some pretty houses there but I can't imagine him renting one (or there being much to rent). Usually the charm of the pretty houses in Mill Valley is that they are just a few blocks from downtown. Dr. Kornfeld's attorney said Kornfeld was going to "devise a treatment plan" with "24 hour care" which sounds good until you realize it means renting a house or staying in a hotel in Mill Valley. Were they going to put Prince on a plane to SFO and drive him to Mill Valley? That's ridiculous and the whole situation with Kornfeld makes me so sad.

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Reply #1019 posted 07/22/16 6:06pm

sunset3121

Menes said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Prince is outlived in age by the likes of Little Richard, Chuck Berry, MJ's parents, Keith Richards and er Mike Parry. Unbelievable.

George Best also managed to live 2 years longer, having been an alcoholic all his adult life, and I've seen tramps seemingly into their 60s get by.

Each circumstance is different as is gene expression. For as many stars as we can name that outlived Prince, there are as many as you can name whose life was cut shorter. I would be even more specific and name those who died of drug overdose/mixture to show that it is , in fact, very believable.

1. Phillip Hoffman (46)

- Philip Seymour Hoffman died of a drugs overdose in February after being kicked out of the family home by his partner and L'Wren Scott committed suicide in March, reportedly in millions of dollars of debt

2. Cory Montieth (31) -

Glee star had been clean for three months after attending rehab

Coroner believes he didn't realise his limits had changed

3. Lisa Kelly ( 43) - passed away in her sleep - her entry into rehab had been preceded by a difficult period for Kelly. Replaced on “That ’70s Show” for the series’ sixth season, Kelly had made headlines for troubled behavior in the months leading up to her death. Kelly was arrested in November 2012 for allegedly assaulting her husband, and earlier that year had been charged with corporal injury of a spouse.

4. Chris Kelly( 34) -

Paramedics found Kelly unresponsive on a couch in his living room - but Kelly's mother told investigators of her son's history of drug abuse, and said that he had used cocaine and heroin the night before his death.

5. Whitney Houston (46) -

had frittered away her $100 million fortune on years of drug abuse and high living and was on the skids when she died. Decades of narcotics use took such a tol

6. Amy Winehouse (27) - last stint in rehab was reportedly in May 2011, however, her

attempts to get clean never truly helped her defeat her demons. At a

disastrous show in Belgrade in June, she showed up more than an hour

late, then repeatedly left the stage mid-performance, forgot lyrics to

her songs and even dropped a microphone.

7. JImi Hendrix(27) - the post-mortem revealed that he had vomited in his sleep and choked to death having overdosed on Monika’s sleeping tablets. In search of a full night’s sleep, Jimi asked Monika for some of her powerful German sedatives, Vesparax. Unaware of the half-tablet dosage, Jimi took nine. His reckless mixing of drugs and alcohol had become so commonplace the previous year that his girlfriends regularly woke up to hear him gasping and had to clear his windpipe.

8. Janis Joplin( 27) - Following a long struggle with substance abuse, Joplin died from an accidental heroin overdose

Just to name a few who were all under the age of 57.

All extremely troubled.

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