Am I the only one who had the really inappropriate reaction of: ".... you don't say..." to the listing of his build as 'petite'?

As to the rest of it, he was 57, for fuck's sake, with a body that had taken more punishment than is reasonable; he was sick. And tiny, with no reserves. OF COURSE this killed him. Let's just take a step back and breathe, people.

For me, the silver lining is that it is indeed over for him, and I am personally glad it's done; like his hairdresser said, the man left it all on the stage like he was supposed to. He did so much good in the world, and I for one and willing to let him be. Will I miss him? Hell, yes. He basically informed my entire life, and will continue to do so for the rest of my life. I can't ask for more. I keep thinking if he was that miserable for the last 2 months of his life -- and from everything I read, he probably was, even if he didn't show it -- then thank GOD it's over.

Naturally, I want to know if there was more to it than just too much Fentanyl.... but I think I'm good if I never find out. I keep circling back to hoping the man was at peace at the end.

leadline said:

Love you Prince. Thank you for the memories.

SpinsterSister said:

I was given a script for Fentanyl for complicated bilateral carpal tunnel, something that flares up from time and time today. My doc gave me another script after exam but didn't take the whole bottle of the first, still have 'em. I am back in the pits.....I was feeling like, maybe, he really did just bug out...wishful thinking but the six odd weeks since his reported departure, I've just been soaring on his music to help me get through it all. Now, I'm numb and just can't move, my heart feels like it's slowing down and I'm ready to sleep for a long, long time. Where do we go from here? Another nail in the coffin, sometimes the only thing that gets a person through whatever is music, drugs, sex, alcohol, shutting away....what is playing is the boot from his Atlanta show featuring Black Sweat, damn that was only a few days before he landed in Moline.........I can't hear him now. Ready for long sleep.

this is a hard time, right now.

Rebeljuice said:

Lets not forget that there is still an ongoing police investigation.

It's not over yet.....

Marie54 said:

Having a Medical back ground first we cannot validate another person level and tolerance OF pain. We can only measure our own. Fentyl yes is a very powerful drug usually prescribed but in very extre e cases of terminal illness. Fentyl does lower respirations and blood pressure. It could very easily send someone into a forever sleep. However what was the cause of death be it natural ,accident, whatever We had him and his music in our lifetime, We did not learn if him late in his career. We had the Red corvett, Nikki, Crean , Adore,and Our PURPLE Rain WE HAD PRINCE IN ALL HIS GLORY NO MATTER THE WHRN, WHY, or HOW WE HAD PRINCE . We were truly blessed to witness his unique gift he shated. But like yes all his time was up he had to leave us his assigned job from the master of the universe PRINCE WAS TOLD JOB WELL DONE YOU GAVE THEM YOUR ALL NOW REST BEAUTIFUL ONE I WILL MISS HIM AND WILL ALWAYS LOVE HIS MUSIC. AND WILL NOT BE CONVINCED HE WAS not THE GREATEST ARTIST ENTERTAINER OF ALL TIMES. HIS MUSIC WILL LIVE PAST THE END OF TIME REST IN ETERNAL MUCH DESERVED PEACE

He will always be my hero and the musical love of my life.

babynoz said:

Marie54 said:

Having a Medical back ground first we cannot validate another person level and tolerance OF pain. We can only measure our own. Fentyl yes is a very powerful drug usually prescribed but in very extre e cases of terminal illness. Fentyl does lower respirations and blood pressure. It could very easily send someone into a forever sleep. However what was the cause of death be it natural ,accident, whatever We had him and his music in our lifetime, We did not learn if him late in his career. We had the Red corvett, Nikki, Crean , Adore,and Our PURPLE Rain WE HAD PRINCE IN ALL HIS GLORY NO MATTER THE WHRN, WHY, or HOW WE HAD PRINCE . We were truly blessed to witness his unique gift he shated. But like yes all his time was up he had to leave us his assigned job from the master of the universe PRINCE WAS TOLD JOB WELL DONE YOU GAVE THEM YOUR ALL NOW REST BEAUTIFUL ONE I WILL MISS HIM AND WILL ALWAYS LOVE HIS MUSIC. AND WILL NOT BE CONVINCED HE WAS not THE GREATEST ARTIST ENTERTAINER OF ALL TIMES. HIS MUSIC WILL LIVE PAST THE END OF TIME REST IN ETERNAL MUCH DESERVED PEACE

He will always be my hero and the musical love of my life.

^ Say that.

Junglehop said:

bondno9 said:

I have a headache from the crying. I'm still stuck on why fentanyl? It's just all so odd. There's a missing piece and it's in the full autopsy/toxicology. I'm sure the family knows which hopefully provides some closure for them. I'm starting to cry again

Oh for the love of God.... why Fentanyl? >>>>> BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO MANAGE CHRONIC PAIN!! <<<<< it's not odd at all. hell, several orgers have already written in this thread that they were prescribed Fentanyl for a variety of pain management from a torn spleen to carpal tunnel.

Why don't people hear this?!?:

BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO MANAGE CHRONIC PAIN!!
Why is that so hard to understand?!?!?!?

mailaccount63 said:

Junglehop said:

bondno9 said: Oh for the love of God.... why Fentanyl? >>>>> BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO MANAGE CHRONIC PAIN!! <<<<< it's not odd at all. hell, several orgers have already written in this thread that they were prescribed Fentanyl for a variety of pain management from a torn spleen to carpal tunnel.

Why don't people hear this?!?:

BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO MANAGE CHRONIC PAIN!!
Why is that so hard to understand?!?!?!?

we don't really know. I get it and I don't get it at the same time. Prince knew about Elvis, he was a fan, to the point of writing a song about how he wasn't gonna end up "face down" and what happens? he ends up just like Elvis. that's the part i'm trying to understand, was he in such pain? we don't know, or was he just an addict or both? did he have cancer? it'll all come out in the wash.

Camille2016 said:

Phishanga said:

Conor said:

Well, this does sound like the Daily Mail interview with drug dealer may be the truth

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3555292/Prince-s-former-drug-dealer-reveals-extent-addiction.html

Prince and stage fright? Yeah, right.

Don't you remember that very first interview Dick Clark had with Prince? Prince was so struck with stage fright that he couldn't even talk. Dick Clark said it was THE hardest interview that he ever did with a musician - he said that Prince couldn't talk, but he sure could churn out the music.

mailaccount63 said:

Phishanga said:

Prince and stage fright? Yeah, right.

Don't you remember that very first interview Dick Clark had with Prince? Prince was so struck with stage fright that he couldn't even talk. Dick Clark said it was THE hardest interview that he ever did with a musician - he said that Prince couldn't talk, but he sure could churn out the music.

i heard pepe willie say it was stagefright and i've heard dez dickerson say prince planned it out just to be wierd. Man did thing for a reason usually. He just seemed like he wanted to piss of Clark to me and to have people look at him and go "what the fuck" which he accomplished quite well.

I get the impression Prince had a pretty bad case of social anxiety based on the interviews I've now seen and the things people have written about him. I can totally see him having extreme stage fright, maybe not later but definitely in his early years and who knows how long he has been taking meds to some degree.

Another interesting thing to me is that both times he OD'd in the weeks leading up to his death, each time was at night. Perhaps he was trying to get some sleep.

PeteSilas said:

mimi1956 said:

I know, I wanted to learn what could have caused his death and the reason for the overdose, but to release the paper itself describing his final state of dress and the scars on his poor body, makes me cry even more, I don't know why. It just is so intrusive. I know this is part of an autopsy, but to give this info and not the state of health seems so unimportant and somehow obscene.

you think this was intrusive you should go read michael jackson and whitney houstons autopsy's, they even said Michael had functioning testicles. Whitney had a hole in her nose and false teeth.

Things that had nothing to do with their deaths and reasons that led up to it.. With Prince if there was something terminal rather than chronic, I think that is what those who love him would rest easier with. A chronic conditon then his loss could have been preventable. Terminal, party over oops out of time....

Genesia said:

mimi1956 said:

PeteSilas said:

you think this was intrusive you should go read michael jackson and whitney houstons autopsy's, they even said Michael had functioning testicles. Whitney had a hole in her nose and false teeth.

Things that had nothing to do with their deaths and reasons that led up to it.. With Prince if there was something terminal rather than chronic, I think that is what those who love him would rest easier with. A chronic conditon then his loss could have been preventable. Terminal, party over oops out of time....

ya, i was thinking they might tell us all the gory details like they had to remove his afro wig before the cremation or something. so this is a pretty vague report, michaels stated every little centimeter of his body, as did whitneys.

Conor said:

PeteSilas said:

Kornstein or whatever his name is needs to be cahrged with manslaughter and Conrad Murrayed.

luv4u said:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/prince-death-overdose-1.3612770

[Link above has now been updated with more information]

A law-enforcement official tells The Associated Press that tests show the music superstar died of an opioid overdose..............

Any duplicate threads created with get the Post here, thanks.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/0...index.html

Authorities have also said the investigation into Prince's death is a criminal investigation. It was not immediately clear if Kornfeld is the subject of a separate investigation.

TRANSLATION: Prince was murdered!

I hope my fellow orgers can finally wake up, stop being naive, and be open-minded to the possibility that the tragic death of our musical hero is a freaking conspiracy.

MIRvmn said:

Still believe he was poisoned ...

beacheemom said:

I'm not sure if this has been asked; haven't had time yet to read through everyone's replies, but since Prince overdosed the day the plane had to make an emergency landing why would it not be considered a suicide at PP? He evidently knew how much he took the day the plane landed, so why would he do it again???? Here's my thoughts on my question: 1. He forgot he had taken a dose and took another dose of fentanyl resulting in overdosing. 2. He knew he was taking too much but the pain was still there so he was chancing it just hoping he wouldn't OD and hoping the pain would go away. 3. He didn't really care anymore because the pain was just too much. Sort of like whatever happens will happen just as long as pain is gone but he truly wasn't deliberately trying to kill himself. So what do y'all think? I'm heartbroken all over again. Why oh why oh why. We lost such a generous, kind, person.

I read somewhere, I don't remember where or I would post the link as I am supposed to, that Prince's family begged the Medical Examiner to NOT write "Suicide" on the report, if that did indeed turn out to be the case.

I just don't think he could handle the pain anymore. If only he would of waited until he had talked to the Pain Managment Doctor - I think he would of gotten some relief.

mailaccount63 said:

Junglehop said:

bondno9 said: Oh for the love of God.... why Fentanyl? >>>>> BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO MANAGE CHRONIC PAIN!! <<<<< it's not odd at all. hell, several orgers have already written in this thread that they were prescribed Fentanyl for a variety of pain management from a torn spleen to carpal tunnel.

Why don't people hear this?!?:

BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO MANAGE CHRONIC PAIN!!
Why is that so hard to understand?!?!?!?

Oh please just because other orgers were prescribed Fentanyl for pain managment doesn't mean it's the gospel. They are not M.D.s - just taking something some doc gave them that they probably shouldn't have. That's the problem. Doctors prescribing medicines they shouldn't and that's how a patient becomes addicted. My understanding is that Fentanyl should only be prescribed for pain management related to cancer. At this time we do not know if Prince had an underlying medical condition.

[Edited 6/2/16 16:06pm]

MIRvmn said:

Dr. Drew on tv right now discussing this.

Fury said:

His estate needs to hold all those trash rags accountable for saying he died of AIDS.

Sorry to have to say it but Prince may still have had AIDS. It's just not what actually killed him. That drug is used frequently with cancer patients. Many celebrities have hidden they had AIDS when they died.

It doesn't really matter. I think he had to have had a serious illness to do this to himself.