suomynona said:

Fury said:

His estate needs to hold all those trash rags accountable for saying he died of AIDS.

Couldn't agree more.

AMEN! I mean i knew those stories were nonsense, but anyone who was peddling them should be called out.

mimi1956 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Was it suicide?

They say self administered accident, Fentanyl a cancer pain med. Comes in patches and lollipops. He loved his lollipops. Damn, what a waste.

the lollipops go way way back too.

GirlBrother said:

Oh, God. Self-administered possibly means that the drug wasn't prescribed... ...Which means that the Daily Mail's story from April 23rd, about a Fentanyl dealer is probably true. http://www.dailymail.co.u...ction.html I'd never even heard of Fentanyl before. And there it is, in that shady story, two days after he passed.

Has Kirk shown up yet?

GirlBrother said:

BillieBalloon said:

babynoz said:

I was a little surprised he was wearing briefs too. And that he was 5'3. I always read 5'2.

He was still wearing his cap which is why I wondered if he actually passed on the 20th?

I thought they would give the time of death but they didn't. I always thought he was 5.2 as well.

There seems to be a lot of information not given.....just saying.

Bunsterdk said:

GirlBrother said:

Oh, God.

Self-administered possibly means that the drug wasn't prescribed...

I self-administer prescribed drugs on a daily basis.

Bunsterdk said:

GirlBrother said:

Oh, God. Self-administered possibly means that the drug wasn't prescribed...

I self-administer prescribed drugs on a daily basis.

Doesn't mean they equate.

mano said:

suomynona said:

Couldn't agree more.

AMEN! I mean i knew those stories were nonsense, but anyone who was peddling them should be called out.

No offense, but we don't know if they were nonsense. There are still a lot of unanswered questions that could be asked. This report was very vague, and I don't think the whole facts were given.

bondno9 said:

Junglehop said:

mimi1956 said: Fentanyl is not just a cancer drug - stop spreading alarmist falsehoods. Fentanyl is used for a wide range of pain management such as osteoporosis, arthritic pain, and yes hip pain before and post surgery. Do some research and educate yourself... …and quit with the conspiracy theories and burying your head in the sand.

According to the National Institute of Health fentanyl should be used only to treat breakthrough cancer pain (sudden episodes of pain that occur despite around-the-clock treatment with pain medication) in cancer patients at least 18 years of age (or at least 16 years of age if taking Actiq brand lozenges) who are taking regularly scheduled doses of another narcotic (opiate) pain medication, and who are tolerant (used to the effects of the medication) to narcotic pain medications.This medication should not be used to treat pain other than chronic cancer pain

https://www.nlm.nih.gov/m...3.html#why

Read the NIH info and Fentanyl is no joke. I would be afraid to take it personally.

mimi1956 said:

bondno9 said:

According to the National Institute of Health fentanyl should be used only to treat breakthrough cancer pain (sudden episodes of pain that occur despite around-the-clock treatment with pain medication) in cancer patients at least 18 years of age (or at least 16 years of age if taking Actiq brand lozenges) who are taking regularly scheduled doses of another narcotic (opiate) pain medication, and who are tolerant (used to the effects of the medication) to narcotic pain medications.This medication should not be used to treat pain other than chronic cancer pain

https://www.nlm.nih.gov/m...3.html#why

Thank you, others can be just too rude.

[Edited 6/2/16 13:07pm]

Yes, they can. You raised a valid observation about fentanyl. The speculation is that he was taking it for hip pain but based on the NIH website there is the possibility he may have been prescribed the drug for cancer pain. If so, that health information may be considered non-public information under MN law. If there is a family history of cancer, then it raises the possibility even higher. IMO he wasn't taking it for hip pain. It's just heartbreaking. He was in pain but gave his all up until the very end

Mkilpatrick74 said:

GirlBrother said:

He wasn't wearing shoes when he died. I don't even know why I find this upsetting. It just is. I always had this idea that Prince was always being Prince 24/7. I guess whatever pain he was in, was eased by not wearing shoes.

A lot of people don't wear shoes at home.

tmo1965 said:

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fentanyl

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Following the patch, a flavored lollipop of fentanyl citrate mixed with inert fillers was introduced under the brand name of Actiq, becoming the first quick-acting formation of fentanyl for use with chronic breakthrough pain. More recently, fentanyl has been developed into an effervescent tab for buccal absorption much like the Actiq lollipop, followed by a buccal spray device for fast-acting relief and other delivery methods currently in development.

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Makes me think of all the times i saw him suck on a lollipop in photos

bondno9 said:

mimi1956 said:

pureTsexy said:

Someone of his size, work ethic and pain level...this is very easy to do. So sad. Doesn't change my view of him one bit. We love you Prince

No, it doesn't change the love. But if he was taking it for a serious condition, it would have been easier to accept other than an accident. The world was robbed of him as an aging genius and he was robbed of his future and maybe being happy.

Speaking from experience, chronic pain <b>is</b> a serious condition. Just because society hasn't caught up to that fact yet doesn't make it any less true. And to be completely honest, this problem wouldn't have gone away for Prince. If he'd survived this episode, it was a battle he'd likely have had to fight his entire life, whether it's trying to find safe treatments, trying to keep your spirits up enough to not jump off a bridge when the pain flares up, hell, trying to find a comfortable position while standing onstage with a guitar, or at a piano (I noticed that his piano bench for this tour looked very padded and comfortable) or sitting on an airplane. The limitations a pain disorder can cause to the things you love to do are really heartbreaking, and going forward all we can do is try to find REAL solutions to chronic pain as opposed to shit that makes money for the pharmaceutical industry. (While also accepting that we can't just ban opioids without a replacement treatment for pain, otherwise you'll have pain patients flat-out killing themselves.)

savvy said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

Phishanga said:

SHOULD.

Yes should but also In those tolerant to other narcotics w chronic pain. I'm speculating here, using my own experiences, that the percocet no longer controlled the pain. And you can't keep taking more and more if it BC the Tylenol will shut your organs down

The NIH link says that you should not use Fentanyl alone; it should be used in with another narcotic.

"Fentanyl may cause serious breathing problems or death if it is used by people who are not being treated with other narcotic medications or who are not tolerant to narcotic medications."

BillieBalloon said:

He had a scar on his hip so maybe he had the surgery. Sometimes though hip replacement surgery needs to be performed again if it doesn't correct the.problem first time. Maybe he didn't want to go through that again and just took painkillers to deal with it?

Yeah, you only get one done a time. Makes sense.

He worked himself too hard and rode life until the wheels came off.

bondno9 said:

Junglehop said:

mimi1956 said: Fentanyl is not just a cancer drug - stop spreading alarmist falsehoods. Fentanyl is used for a wide range of pain management such as osteoporosis, arthritic pain, and yes hip pain before and post surgery. Do some research and educate yourself... …and quit with the conspiracy theories and burying your head in the sand.

According to the National Institute of Health fentanyl should be used only to treat breakthrough cancer pain (sudden episodes of pain that occur despite around-the-clock treatment with pain medication) in cancer patients at least 18 years of age (or at least 16 years of age if taking Actiq brand lozenges) who are taking regularly scheduled doses of another narcotic (opiate) pain medication, and who are tolerant (used to the effects of the medication) to narcotic pain medications.This medication should not be used to treat pain other than chronic cancer pain

https://www.nlm.nih.gov/m...3.html#why

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The hospital treated my torn spleen (from a car accident) with fentanyl. It worked tremendously, but I slept a lot while on it. They could only give it to me while I was in the ER, however. When they moved me to a regular room, they stopped the fentanyl and the pain came back. One of the worst pains I ever experienced, so bad that I would start shaking like I was freezing, teeth chattering. The nurses kept bringing me blankets to warm me up, until one finally realized I wasn't cold that it was just my body's response to the pain. So, while they may recommend it not be used for any other pain, they do use it for other types of pain. And again, it is very effective at pain relief, because while I was on it, I felt absolutely no pain, but as soon as they stopped it, the pain was intense.

.

I can't imagine the type of pain that Prince had to be in, that he required fentanyl, because the pain I suffered from when they gave it to me had me begging the doctors to just put me out of my misery. I wanted to die. The fentanyl gave me relief from that pain and was the only thing that gave me relief. I was only on it for 24 hours (was in ER for 24 hours while they waited for a room in ICU to open up). After that, for 3 days I was in excruciating pain until the spleen healed more. The pain meds they gave me in the room didn't provide relief and I had to suffer through it.

beacheemom said:

I'm not sure if this has been asked; haven't had time yet to read through everyone's replies, but since Prince overdosed the day the plane had to make an emergency landing why would it not be considered a suicide at PP? He evidently knew how much he took the day the plane landed, so why would he do it again???? Here's my thoughts on my question: 1. He forgot he had taken a dose and took another dose of fentanyl resulting in overdosing. 2. He knew he was taking too much but the pain was still there so he was chancing it just hoping he wouldn't OD and hoping the pain would go away. 3. He didn't really care anymore because the pain was just too much. Sort of like whatever happens will happen just as long as pain is gone but he truly wasn't deliberately trying to kill himself. So what do y'all think? I'm heartbroken all over again. Why oh why oh why. We lost such a generous, kind, person.

Good questions, unfortunately this report they put out leaves you with more questions now than answers. I have a feeling something is not right here.

According to CNN the full autopsy and toxicology report will not be released the medical office said. You have got to be kidding.

mimi1956 said:

According to CNN the full autopsy and toxicology report will not be released the medical office said. You have got to be kidding.

well, we got to put the pressure on. We were his fans, they sealed Elvis' autopsy too but we all know after all this time what killed him and what that sealed autopsy contained.

laurarichardson said:

Think about it if you had cancer would you be in a hurry to get to rehab.

Yes, in fact, I would get into a rehab program in less than a minute to save my own life, unflattering headlines be damned.

[Edited 6/2/16 13:42pm]

Identity said:

laurarichardson said:

Think about it if you had cancer would you be in a hurry to get to rehab.

Yes, in fact, I would get into a rehab program in less than a minute to save my own life, unflattering headlines be damned.

[Edited 6/2/16 13:39pm]

someone had a thread here about how Pride kills, it looks like this was true. Prince should have been in a room somewhere talking with someone rather than throwing a party and playing chopsticks.

PeteSilas said:

So not sure if this has already been posted (ignore it if it has) but, Yahoo news has the medical examiners report. Kind of sorry for reading it to be honest. But anyway, it notes that there is a scar on his left hip - so that might point to him having had surgery or some kind of procedure.

https://www.yahoo.com/new...00903.html