RachB65 said:

disch said:

Hello all. I'm a lurker who has been helped immeasurably by this site in the last few weeks. Thank you to all the long-time (and new) posters who have helped make these recent times slightly more bearable for me.

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this (as it's just speculation, not reporting of facts), but this has been bothering me a lot and i want to ask others' opinions:

There is an assumption that Prince was alone all night on April 20-21. My question is: How do we know that is true? How do we know someone else wasn't there (for some or all the night) who doesn't want it known that they were there (and has tried to keep his or her presence a secret)? perhaps this person was supposed to be keeping an eye on Prince and lost sight of him, or because they were involved/have knowledge about what happened?

Again, this is all just me trying to understand how Prince could have had a "grave medical emergency" severe enough to cause someone in his circle to call the California doctor, but not severe enough to prevent all his friends/staff from just heading off for the night?

Hi! Im new here too...I also wondered the same thing...the whole "grave medical emergency"..Who made that call, what time was it made in relation to the Walgreen's run? I also wonder if its possible Prince overdosed again the night of the 20th and was given another Narcan shot from the inside, like maybe after the (suspected) overdose on the plane, he was given a kit or someone got it for him....And saved him again. Then called the Cali doc...Maybe this person couldnt get Prince to go to the hospital after..Maybe he kept an eye on him til Prince fell asleep or told him to leave...And then fell asleep his/herself...If Prince went into a bad withdrawal and took either a benzo or more percs he may have been disoriented and took too many or didnt need alot at that point to overdose..I dont mean to upset anyone on here by speculating as such so im sorry

Thanks RachB65. I guess what's troubling me is that we're all assuming he was alone all night, but hasn't actually been confirmed by investigators as of yet -- and it just seems so weird to me that he would have been alone, given the circumstances. Like everything in this situation, there are still so unanswered questions about what happened in the day or 2 or so leading up to April 21. And i know i should just wait for the investigations to run their course, but all of this is troubling me so much.

nemesis2099 said:

MMJas said:

David Icke has many interesting things to say. I sure don't agree with everything, but I do agree with some and his tribute to Prince was quite nice. Now, he could be just jumping on the bandwagon and saying: "See? Prince also believed in chemtrails, just like me!" but one thing is for certain... there were no chemtrails when I was a kid growing up, only normal shaped clouds.

[Edited 5/13/16 11:16am]

Chemtrails are more for the cities, that's why it's always crazy in the cities, there's probaly ghetto chemtrails too

Pay atention to the sky.

migmigmig said:

I come to this item for autopsy/investigation updates. Perhaps a tin foil hat thread should be started and this discussion ported over there.

I know I'm a newbie and my opinion means nothing to you guys. But let me just say this: you'll get the update they want you/the public to get.

RachB65 said:

disch said:

Hello all. I'm a lurker who has been helped immeasurably by this site in the last few weeks. Thank you to all the long-time (and new) posters who have helped make these recent times slightly more bearable for me.

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this (as it's just speculation, not reporting of facts), but this has been bothering me a lot and i want to ask others' opinions:

There is an assumption that Prince was alone all night on April 20-21. My question is: How do we know that is true? How do we know someone else wasn't there (for some or all the night) who doesn't want it known that they were there (and has tried to keep his or her presence a secret)? perhaps this person was supposed to be keeping an eye on Prince and lost sight of him, or because they were involved/have knowledge about what happened?

Again, this is all just me trying to understand how Prince could have had a "grave medical emergency" severe enough to cause someone in his circle to call the California doctor, but not severe enough to prevent all his friends/staff from just heading off for the night?

Hi! Im new here too...I also wondered the same thing...the whole "grave medical emergency"..Who made that call, what time was it made in relation to the Walgreen's run? I also wonder if its possible Prince overdosed again the night of the 20th and was given another Narcan shot from the inside, like maybe after the (suspected) overdose on the plane, he was given a kit or someone got it for him....And saved him again. Then called the Cali doc...Maybe this person couldnt get Prince to go to the hospital after..Maybe he kept an eye on him til Prince fell asleep or told him to leave...And then fell asleep his/herself...If Prince went into a bad withdrawal and took either a benzo or more percs he may have been disoriented and took too many or didnt need alot at that point to overdose..I dont mean to upset anyone on here by speculating as such so im sorry

I read somewhere that Prince was fully dressed when found unconscious, so it would seem he didn't go to sleep.

[Edited 5/13/16 15:23pm]

MMJas said:

MMJas said:

migmigmig said:

I come to this item for autopsy/investigation updates. Perhaps a tin foil hat thread should be started and this discussion ported over there.

I know I'm a newbie and my opinion means nothing to you guys. But let me just say this: you'll get the update they want you/the public to get.

There's way too many unanswered questions, theories already out there now to get any real closure. Expecting updates from the same clowns who leaked the story in the first place is pointless, don't expect much from the keystone cops too, they have to keep the story going for a while, another week another claim. More drama and BS

nemesis2099 said:

MMJas said:

I know I'm a newbie and my opinion means nothing to you guys. But let me just say this: you'll get the update they want you/the public to get.

There's way too many unanswered questions, theories already out there now to get any real closure. Expecting updates from the same clowns who leaked the story in the first place is pointless, don't expect much from the keystone cops too, they have to keep the story going for a while, another week another claim. More drama and BS

I know what you mean. I was hoping for some closure either this week or next but from the looks of it, thats not gonna happen any time soon. Just tired of the speculation, BS, drama and all around shittiness of this current time.

morningsong said:

Giovanni777 said:

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Okay Dawne, that's really not cool. What have thee to say?

Gossipwise. Not a thing.

Dear Ryan Pinkard,

Did you actually sanction this Edward G Robinson photo? We need you to tell us what you know!

Yours,

etc

MMJas said:

According to several sites it was reported last week that Prince had percocet in his system.

The same report said that his red blood count was dangerously low.

My best friend is a pathologist and said that it sounds like Prince had myelodysplasia or Leukemia.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

MMJas said:

This. Conspiracy theory or not, it makes a point.

Well said...I also agree

oh come on y'all, don't be mental. If you need to find the answer to this Cancer 693121 we must rewind to 121396:

"And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt."

It don't take Jon Oliver's New York Stand Up Show On Netflix to make a pig draw a cart load of pepperoni and ham.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

muleFunk said:

spastic78 said:

muleFunk said:

According to several sites it was reported last week that Prince had percocet in his system.

The same report said that his red blood count was dangerously low.

My best friend is a pathologist and said that it sounds like Prince had myelodysplasia or Leukemia.

Another possibility is sepsis; apparently he had a hip replacement towards the end of 2009 and didn't tour again until 2001. Sometimes hip replacements don't always yield the expected results and there's lingering pain. Yet pain after a prosthetic implant is also correlated with infections. Most doctors, according to studies, fail to recognize the symptoms of sepsis until it's too late. Reduced red blood cell counts, fatigue, lack of appetite, vomiting and lowered body temperature are all indicators that it's too late. And sometimes the infection, which may have been laying dormant, will suddenly blossom and takeover the host/human and within 24 hours that person's organs just give up. Hopefully we will have answers soon.

Something similar happened to my mom when she got a heart valves replacement, and ended up with Bacterial Endocarditis she is ok now, but it did creep up on her.

MissMarySharon said:

Prince was such a proud and private person, I'm thinking that if he'd gone into rehab, he would have emerged hopefully on a better path and no one outside his immediate circle would ever have known about it.

I would imagine he kept a lot of it to himself, and was probably a very difficult person to help in these circumstances. It seems to me that what he lacked more than anything was closeness with his family, and not having a wife/life partner and kids etc who would have fought harder for him or somehow forced him to seek help earlier. I think Prince kept a lot to himself and staffers and friends could probably only do so much. I remember reading an interview with Dr Fink years ago, where he said he reached out to Prince at the time Prince's son died, but Prince did not want to talk about it...I think that's how he was, someone who kept a lot inside and who found it very difficult to open up etc. I agree though, that it seems appalling P. was left on his own that night, one would think somebody would have stepped in. Maybe we'll never have the answers to certain aspects of it.

I can't seem to get angry today, I feel more shell shocked and just horrified at the enormity of it, it is just tragic and truly heartbreaking. I can't bear to think of the pain and fear he must have been living with.

MissMarySharon said:

Prince was such a proud and private person, I'm thinking that if he'd gone into rehab, he would have emerged hopefully on a better path and no one outside his immediate circle would ever have known about it.

I would imagine he kept a lot of it to himself, and was probably a very difficult person to help in these circumstances. It seems to me that what he lacked more than anything was closeness with his family, and not having a wife/life partner and kids etc who would have fought harder for him or somehow forced him to seek help earlier. I think Prince kept a lot to himself and staffers and friends could probably only do so much. I remember reading an interview with Dr Fink years ago, where he said he reached out to Prince at the time Prince's son died, but Prince did not want to talk about it...I think that's how he was, someone who kept a lot inside and who found it very difficult to open up etc. I agree though, that it seems appalling P. was left on his own that night, one would think somebody would have stepped in. Maybe we'll never have the answers to certain aspects of it.

I can't seem to get angry today, I feel more shell shocked and just horrified at the enormity of it, it is just tragic and truly heartbreaking. I can't bear to think of the pain and fear he must have been living with.

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I agree with MissMarySharon...I don't know if his fervor for his JW religion was completely genuine, as it could have been (at least partially) to help cover up his fear(s) that he may be addicted, in bloody pain, knowing that he was not partnered, no living children, "music" industry moving beyond him, etc and coupled with being as private as he was - this whole thing just doesn't jive. There is more to this all - I am just so low that he is no longer on this earth as he had so much more to share and deserved to find his one true, forever love. It is just not right that he was alone for his final moments on earth.

Funkmeimfamous said:

Recent article by rolling stone on everything we know so far about his last days... http://www.rollingstone.c...513?page=3 . It was never ever ever supposed to end this way the emptiness I feel is palpable. [Edited 5/13/16 17:55pm]

Rolling Stone and Billboard are pushing a lot of B$ stories too, interviewing everyone under the sun coming out of the woodwork. They used be pretty good but now are reduced to garbage sensationalism in today's 'Reality' induced entertainment world.

Used to be about the music

'Call People magazine, Rolling Stone
Call your next of kin, 'cause your ass is gone
He's got a 57 mag with the price tag still on the side
Cuzzin' when Spooky say dead, you better say died'

spastic78 said:

nemesis2099 said:

Funkmeimfamous said:

Recent article by rolling stone on everything we know so far about his last days... http://www.rollingstone.c...513?page=3 . It was never ever ever supposed to end this way the emptiness I feel is palpable. [Edited 5/13/16 17:55pm]

Rolling Stone and Billboard are pushing a lot of B$ stories too, interviewing everyone under the sun coming out of the woodwork. They used be pretty good but now are reduced to garbage sensationalism in today's 'Reality' induced entertainment world.

Used to be about the music

If Rolling Stone didn't try to present what seems to me like a balanced write up of his final days, then they would be negligent as a rock and roll magazine.

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If they didnt at least attempt to speak to his collaborators - and they almost instantly produced the most interesting piece ever written about the early NPG years - then again, we would now be asking... 'don't RS care about Prince'? What kinda iconic rock journalism magazine doesn't at least try to be incisive and talk to folk?

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Honestly, we need to only call BS where we see BS. Not just everywhere we read something we don't like, although precisely what you have against these articles remains a mystery.

McD said:

nemesis2099 said:

Rolling Stone and Billboard are pushing a lot of B$ stories too, interviewing everyone under the sun coming out of the woodwork. They used be pretty good but now are reduced to garbage sensationalism in today's 'Reality' induced entertainment world.

Used to be about the music

If Rolling Stone didn't try to present what seems to me like a balanced write up of his final days, then they would be negligent as a rock and roll magazine.

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If they didnt at least attempt to speak to his collaborators - and they almost instantly produced the most interesting piece ever written about the early NPG years - then again, we would now be asking... 'don't RS care about Prince'? What kinda iconic rock journalism magazine doesn't at least try to be incisive and talk to folk?

.

Honestly, we need to only call BS where we see BS. Not just everywhere we read something we don't like, although precisely what you have against these articles remains a mystery.

Rolling Stone is about as Rock'N'Roll as CNN right now.

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There not interested in what happened just recycling 'news' from other sources and pushing the drug memes. Quoting some rumours that Duane may have mentioned and is no longer around to find the truth, no real evidence...

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It's journalism alright, yellow journalism..

nemesis2099 said:

McD said:

If Rolling Stone didn't try to present what seems to me like a balanced write up of his final days, then they would be negligent as a rock and roll magazine.

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If they didnt at least attempt to speak to his collaborators - and they almost instantly produced the most interesting piece ever written about the early NPG years - then again, we would now be asking... 'don't RS care about Prince'? What kinda iconic rock journalism magazine doesn't at least try to be incisive and talk to folk?

.

Honestly, we need to only call BS where we see BS. Not just everywhere we read something we don't like, although precisely what you have against these articles remains a mystery.

Rolling Stone is about as Rock'N'Roll as CNN right now.

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There not interested in what happened just recycling 'news' from other sources and pushing the drug memes. Quoting some rumours that Duane may have mentioned and is no longer around to find the truth, no real evidence...

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It's journalism alright, yellow journalism..

Recycling stories about his death? C'mon, you're going to complain no matter what they do. If they didn't 'recycle', which is what 99.% of all reported news does, then I guess you are asking that Rolling Stone should have done their own 'digging' into Prince's death, and reported their findings? Or ignored the event all together, because you think it should all be about the music???

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Make yo mind up.

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And which parts of the 90's expose on the NPG did you know about beforehand? How does it rank as a Prince article full stop, never mind one hastily put together about a week after his death?

McD said:

nemesis2099 said:

Rolling Stone is about as Rock'N'Roll as CNN right now.

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There not interested in what happened just recycling 'news' from other sources and pushing the drug memes. Quoting some rumours that Duane may have mentioned and is no longer around to find the truth, no real evidence...

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It's journalism alright, yellow journalism..

Recycling stories about his death? C'mon, you're going to complain no matter what they do. If they didn't 'recycle', which is what 99.% of all reported news does, then I guess you are asking that Rolling Stone should have done their own 'digging' into Prince's death, and reported their findings? Or ignored the event all together, because you think it should all be about the music???

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Make yo mind up.

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And which parts of the 90's expose on the NPG did you know about beforehand? How does it rank as a Prince article full stop, never mind one hastily put together about a week after his death?

As i said Rolling Stone used be pretty good, when you actually had to 'shock horror' purchase a Music Mag, and it was never a 'News' mag back then.

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Go back and read the 1983 and Neal Karlen interviews where rock critics actually had to go and interview stars instead of copying and pasting 'News' articles.

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What expose, just a few quotes again, they're all conflicting stories, just capitailzing on speculation...

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If his associates respected his privacy when he was around, then that's all forgotten now for some chump change? old friends indeed...

Goddess4Real said:

spastic78 said:

muleFunk said:

According to several sites it was reported last week that Prince had percocet in his system.

The same report said that his red blood count was dangerously low.

My best friend is a pathologist and said that it sounds like Prince had myelodysplasia or Leukemia.

thats scary,the #transformed thing on twitter he had,

Some people with MDS go on to develop acute myeloid leukaemia (AML), which is cancer of the white blood cells. This is known as "transformation". this is all so sad

spastic78 said:

muleFunk said:

According to several sites it was reported last week that Prince had percocet in his system.

The same report said that his red blood count was dangerously low.

My best friend is a pathologist and said that it sounds like Prince had myelodysplasia or Leukemia.

Another possibility is sepsis; apparently he had a hip replacement towards the end of 2009 and didn't tour again until 2001. Sometimes hip replacements don't always yield the expected results and there's lingering pain. Yet pain after a prosthetic implant is also correlated with infections. Most doctors, according to studies, fail to recognize the symptoms of sepsis until it's too late. Reduced red blood cell counts, fatigue, lack of appetite, vomiting and lowered body temperature are all indicators that it's too late. And sometimes the infection, which may have been laying dormant, will suddenly blossom and takeover the host/human and within 24 hours that person's organs just give up. Hopefully we will have answers soon.

Actress Patty Duke recently died from sepsis from a ruptured intestine.

McD said:

nemesis2099 said:

Rolling Stone is about as Rock'N'Roll as CNN right now.

.

There not interested in what happened just recycling 'news' from other sources and pushing the drug memes. Quoting some rumours that Duane may have mentioned and is no longer around to find the truth, no real evidence...

.

It's journalism alright, yellow journalism..

Recycling stories about his death? C'mon, you're going to complain no matter what they do. If they didn't 'recycle', which is what 99.% of all reported news does, then I guess you are asking that Rolling Stone should have done their own 'digging' into Prince's death, and reported their findings? Or ignored the event all together, because you think it should all be about the music???

.

Make yo mind up.

.

And which parts of the 90's expose on the NPG did you know about beforehand? How does it rank as a Prince article full stop, never mind one hastily put together about a week after his death?

Simply put, there are sonme on here who refuse to beleive that yes, maybe Prince did have an addictin to percs,, denying the faitrly ovious paradignm shift in hos apperance over last several years, that if the estate is in a mess, it is ultimately hos fault for not leaving a will and further, yes, skipper could have kniocked up a woman in KS and his sonly heir could be a federal inmate...Its not strange until someone disproves their claims..Fact is here there is smoke ther eis fire..MInd you , doenst change who he is , only make more human; shit happens.there are folks here who seem to think that Prince is different than anyyone one else eho has gotten hooked on pills..Fuck, many of my military firiends who i served with, highly educated, smart,, well read etc, etc, have suffered an injury and subsequently gotten hooked on pain medicaton to the poiunt were it cost them their life at worst,,

sgthaggis said:

Still no word from Kirk Johnson?