MIRvmn said:

PurpleSkipper58 said:

That would be a good thing...

I still believe there's a second album coming later this year with Stare on it, could be Free Urself. That could be phase 2

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Ah, so when Prince promised that album for this Summer, he meant some kind of special Summer that wasn't limited by mortal dates? You famz are hilarious.

thedance said:

breakdown2k14 said:

I'm confused .so will we be able to join and listen and save the files to our phones and computers ? Or is it streaming and listening only ?? I've never heard of "Tidal"until today

^ this is a good & essential question, I wanna know this as well!

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Then GOOGLE IT. READ THEIR FAQ. Why all the need to be spoonfed answers? FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF.

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Sheesh.

BartVanHemelen said:

thedance said:

^ this is a good & essential question, I wanna know this as well!

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Then GOOGLE IT. READ THEIR FAQ. Why all the need to be spoonfed answers? FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF.

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Sheesh.

Doozer said:

PurpleSkipper58 said:

"SO B AS FREE AS U CAN B.... B AS FREE AS U CAN B.." How can us fans be free if Prince is cornering us to sub to TIDAL? Someone should try to tell him that! As much as he talks about being free...

I agree. How long have we listened to Prince preach about freedom? And now he'll release an album on a service that will only allow you to listen to the album for as long as you pay a monthly fee. Who would you say are the "slaves" now? . I've listened to and supported Prince for 35 years. I want to support him now. I think he continues to find new ways to make that very hard.

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All Prince cares about is Prince.

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When he talks about Gwen Stefani not being free, that too is Prince caring about himself, because her not being free means that he cannot profit from her celebrity and fame by releasing a single that features her voice somewhere buried in the mix but her name and picture prominently on the cover, without her record company agreeing to it. And they aren't agreeing to it, because they're using her name and fame to re-launch her band and they're investing a truckload of money and they don't want some washed-up former rockstar to profit off their investments for him to promote his comeback attempt.

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It really isn't hard.

BobGeorge909 said:

serk said:

F'real. Let's say he was doing a 12 song...hour-long special on TV....but it was a HBO exclusive. People would be paying the ten dollars for the month long subscription hand over foot...

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Bwahahahaha. Nobody's paying Prince to do such shit. You famz just make up the most ridiculous nonsense, all just to defend Princey's latest fuckup.

laurarichardson said:

tatocorcu said:

And after that free month? We either never listen to it again or pay for it every month for life?

Don't you think people will find away to make copies.

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Look who's promoting bootlegs!

Like many on this thread, streaming is not for me. I hope for a CD release but if there isn't, there's not much I can do about buying a copy to keep for myself.

I would hope that this is a continuing evolution and Prince & Co. come around to realise that they need both things in parallel: streaming for those who prefer streaming and physcial media for those that want to pay for it. I reckon we CD & vinyl buyers would pay 2 or 3x the normal cost for a deluxe or super deluxe, and the market can be tested with Pledge Music or similar.

I think this time he's going to get a large % of a small number, rather than a small % of a larger number. So it might not feel like a win.

Anyway, lets look forward to the tracklist.

"Super hardcore Prince fans that know every song he's ever recorded - we refer to them as 'The Purple Collective' or 'The Purple Army' - this album is absolutely for them, because it's super funky," reported 3RDEYEGIRL. "There are a lot of experimental sounds. It's just hit after hit and definitely caters to those fans who just love to hear what Prince has to say, rather than wanting to always hear that classic Purple Rain Prince sound." Prince worked with co-producer Joshua Welton on HITNRUN – Welton was also a co-producer on Prince's ARTOFFICIALAGE album, released late last year.

In other words, "It's garbage."

tatocorcu said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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You famz are hilarious.

Well, so are you. This time he's really fucked up, but you telling us about it is completely meaningless. That's what you get after twelve years (at least) of writing the same again and again do: the one time you are right, it doesn't matter...

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There was an entire thread about "what if Prince would set up his own streaming service" recently and all sane persons involved pointed out that it would be a massive failure. Yet here's someone proposing that exact same idea (in the bit I responded to). I mean, don't they know about LotusFlow3r.com? Where do Prince fans get this insane idea that Prince has a large enough fan base to support such idiocy?

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Also: I've bene proven right over and over again. I was proven right about the first version of NPGMC. I was proven right about Rave. I was proven right about LotusFlow3r.com. Etcetera etcetera.

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But you lot wanna pretend I'm not.

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You lot counter me saying that he doesn't promote albums when he doesn't play its songs live by reminding me that at one concert he played half a minute of one of the songs from the album.

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You lot keep insisting Prince sells out gigs whenever he turns up anywhere, but the reality is that he's had some massive flops in recent years.

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You lot were all over the "announcement" of this album some weeks ago and claimed it was goign to be released in early August, and as it turned out... nope, yet another time you failed to learn your lesson, you still fell for the vague hype. "Stare" (or whatever that album's name was) was going to be released this Summer. Ain't happening. Last November we were goign to get that NPG album, you lot said. Didn't happen. Hell, even this upcoming exclusive stream isn't exactly a "real" release, now is it? Or are you goign to the record shop anyway, "just in case Prince will surprise us and deliver physical CDs"? We've had these phony non-announcements for more than 15 years, and time and time again you lot pretend they're written in stone, whereas in fact they often contain very little information.

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Wanna impress me? Show me that you've LEARNED from those experiences.

BartVanHemelen said:

Aerogram said:

Remember in Baltimore when he said something along the lines of wanting to come back and stay in an hotel that's black-owned? Prince is supporting a venture started by Jay Z that echoes his own philosophy about artists getting a fairer deal in an industry that screws them every day?

I may not be pleased that I'd have to join Tidal to hear his album, but in terms of being true to his beliefs, this deal shows he means business. This is most likely happening with WB's full blessings with Prince emphasizing his commitment to a solution that incudes supporing black-owned businesses.

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Let's see: "Tidal was launched in 2014 by Norwegian/Swedish public company Aspiro."

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Norway and Sweden? Doesn't quite sound black to me. Let's look at Aspiro:

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The company was founded in 1998 by Jörgen Adolfsson, Christer Månsson and Klas Hallqvist.

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And also:

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Jay Z's courting of Aspiro's all-star team began just ahead of the Grammys in a top-secret meeting in Pasadena which brought West, Daft Punk, Minaj, Coldplay's Chris Martin, Jack White and Madonna together. Billboard has learned that each artist was offered a 3 percent stake in the company in order to secure exclusives

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Didn''t know they were black.

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Prince is with Tidal because he thought it would generate press and because they offered him a lot of money. That's all there is. Note that he gave a song to Spotify mere days ago, because he's obviously that much into "supporting black-owned businesses".

BartVanHemelen said:

MIRvmn said:

PurpleSkipper58 said: I still believe there's a second album coming later this year with Stare on it, could be Free Urself. That could be phase 2

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Ah, so when Prince promised that album for this Summer, he meant some kind of special Summer that wasn't limited by mortal dates? You famz are hilarious.

What album is being referred to? "HITNRUN"? Or a 2nd album? (And do you live in the Northern Hemisphere? Because September 7 falls within "regular Summer" to those mortals in the US...but perhaps you're referring to another album/date/hemisphere/solar system...)

The Org: "Come on Prince, brother, seriously, put your music on the internet and we'll all be down to pay for it, no problems at all"

Prince: [Puts his music on the Internet]

The Org: "No, we don't mean put it there, there's no way I can pay for it now".

[Edited 8/8/15 4:53am]

BartVanHemelen said:

Pentacle said:

Anyway, I don't really care either way. Like with all Prince's 21st century releases, I'll download it for free, listen to it twice, and delete it again.

Same here, more or less. I bought PE, listened to it twice and have no idea where I left the CD tbh. AOA I listened to ten times or so and is still in my car. The digital sigles like RNRloveaffair, octopus something, menstrual cycle are scattered on devices and I can't bother to look 'm up and burn it on a CD.

Romeoblu said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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There was an entire thread about "what if Prince would set up his own streaming service" recently and all sane persons involved pointed out that it would be a massive failure. Yet here's someone proposing that exact same idea (in the bit I responded to). I mean, don't they know about LotusFlow3r.com? Where do Prince fans get this insane idea that Prince has a large enough fan base to support such idiocy?

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Also: I've bene proven right over and over again. I was proven right about the first version of NPGMC. I was proven right about Rave. I was proven right about LotusFlow3r.com. Etcetera etcetera.

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But you lot wanna pretend I'm not.

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You lot counter me saying that he doesn't promote albums when he doesn't play its songs live by reminding me that at one concert he played half a minute of one of the songs from the album.

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You lot keep insisting Prince sells out gigs whenever he turns up anywhere, but the reality is that he's had some massive flops in recent years.

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You lot were all over the "announcement" of this album some weeks ago and claimed it was goign to be released in early August, and as it turned out... nope, yet another time you failed to learn your lesson, you still fell for the vague hype. "Stare" (or whatever that album's name was) was going to be released this Summer. Ain't happening. Last November we were goign to get that NPG album, you lot said. Didn't happen. Hell, even this upcoming exclusive stream isn't exactly a "real" release, now is it? Or are you goign to the record shop anyway, "just in case Prince will surprise us and deliver physical CDs"? We've had these phony non-announcements for more than 15 years, and time and time again you lot pretend they're written in stone, whereas in fact they often contain very little information.

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Wanna impress me? Show me that you've LEARNED from those experiences.

You spelt been incorrectly.

1p1p1i3 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Prince should just go away.

luv4u said:

It seems that a huge majority here are not in favour of this. Hope Prince sees this and reconsiders.

U of ALL people should trust vision 4 his muziq. This is a way 4 more peeps to access his muziq. What kind of example are U setting 4 this site as a moderator?!

I'm 43, been a fan since the 1999 album was new.

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I buy actual CDs, but I also download where needed and I use Spotify every day at work. Also, I use video streaming sites too - at home and on my phone.

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My point of all of that is: we are not arguing about technology or about streaming, not at all.

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On the surface, it might appear that way, but in reality it's about:

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1. Being forced to stream -- and forced to join a service that we don't want to join.

2. Not being able to "own" the actual album in at least some format (even if it's a download)

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Only Prince plays these games. The album should be as widely released as possible . . . not the opposite.

As I said before, I most likely wouldn't listen to the other 'artists' on Tidal, so I have no interest in subscribing.

Unless Prince releases this via some other media (CD, Itunes, 3rdeyetunes) I'll be getting it 'illegally.'

Despite Prince not liking old people, he might need to accept the fact that a good portion (the majority?) of his fan base has 'grown up' along with him & doesn't use whatever the lastest hip distribution channel is.

These are the people who do support him, buy his latest shit, jump through his latest hoop & continue to follow him.

And I have to admit, if Tidal was just some halfcocked Prince streaming service, I probably WOULD fall for it & subscribe.

But it's not & I have no interest in paying for a bunch of shit that I won't listen to anyway.

Oh AND Hannah (or one of those 3eyed girls) said recently that this is an album for the die hard fans.

If that's the case, it seems he'd make sure it was easily available to them, don't you think?

MIRvmn said:

feeluupp said:

Except will be released on SPOTIFY only.

and 3EG Sophmore on Apple music [Edited 8/7/15 19:48pm]

Actually you are probably right. HITNRUN

HITNRUN phase one (with HARDROCKLOVER) on Tidal

HITNRUN phase two (with Stare) on Spotify

HITNRUN phase three (3rdeye sophomore album) on Apple Music

[Edited 8/8/15 6:09am]

The funny and sad thing about you BART... After all this chastising, and your pompous know it all attitiude and your ultimate disdain for PRINCE... At the end of the day your just going to listen to his album... So what's the point of all this negativity for the past 15 years in the end if your just the biggest hypocrite on this place... You've spent so much time researching PRINCE, reading all hisbooks, the Per Nilsen, the Alex Han books... It's like you're his secret lover that got rejected and your hell bent on bashing him...

Must get lonely in Europe when your all alone.

feeluupp said:

The funny and sad thing about you BART... After all this chastising, and your pompous know it all attitiude and your ultimate disdain for PRINCE... At the end of the day your just going to listen to his album... So what's the point of all this negativity for the past 15 years in the end if your just the biggest hypocrite on this place... You've spent so much time researching PRINCE, reading all hisbooks, the Per Nilsen, the Alex Han books... It's like you're his secret lover that got rejected and your hell bent on bashing him...

Must get lonely in Europe when your all alone.

So your sayin Bart is the number one fam

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

And according to the 3EG Twitter--'Stare' is NOT included.

So I guess it really IS a 'Spotify exclusive.'

Guitarhero said:

feeluupp said:

The funny and sad thing about you BART... After all this chastising, and your pompous know it all attitiude and your ultimate disdain for PRINCE... At the end of the day your just going to listen to his album... So what's the point of all this negativity for the past 15 years in the end if your just the biggest hypocrite on this place... You've spent so much time researching PRINCE, reading all hisbooks, the Per Nilsen, the Alex Han books... It's like you're his secret lover that got rejected and your hell bent on bashing him...

Must get lonely in Europe when your all alone.

So your sayin Bart is the number one fam

OFC... In order to be a FAN/FAM you have to research and study as much as BART has... So in the end he's just the biggest HYPOCRITE... He's read all the books, researched every little thing about him, yet he's not a FAN/FAM... Sorry BART go get some excercise besides spreading "THE TRUTH" here. You're outdated anyway.

VelvetKittyKat said: