BobGeorge909 said:

thedance said:

There seems to be a lot of haters of this album.


But. From MPLSound I really like:

Dance 4 Me
U're Gonna C Me
Here
Valentina
Better With Time
Ol' Skool Company

I like these songs as much as I like songs on Lotusflow3r....

Valentina's my SHIT! I Love that track. Hypnotic Latin feel with a seering geetar solo...all while imagining Selma's tetas. I mean...heaven? No? [Edited 6/24/15 18:52pm]

MPLSound is far superior to Lotusflow3r to me. I love every song on that album. I love your reasoning for liking Valentina! Every time I hear that line about her tat tats images of Hayek's tits in my mouth overwhelm me!!!

His new 'fro has got to go!

I'm glad Warner Bros. said no to the 3 Disc Crystal Ball album, the Camile and Dream Factory albums. I've seen so many configurations of these albums and the released SOTT seems to be the best version that could've been put out.

FunkyStrange said:

Seems like most of my opinions on Prince are unpopular LOL

Indeed not liking If I Was Your Girlfriend would get you shot in my home.

aaroncanderson said:

I'm glad Warner Bros. said no to the 3 Disc Crystal Ball album, the Camile and Dream Factory albums. I've seen so many configurations of these albums and the released SOTT seems to be the best version that could've been put out.

I agree with this.I think the 2-LP SOTT album is perfect the way it is.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

His new 'fro has got to go!

^ Right Hatrina.. I agree, away with the afro hairstyle..

Still a bit strange you say this because your chosen avatar includes Prince's biggest afro maybe ever

SanMartin said:

Where does your taste differ from most other Prince fans'? I can think of two which apply to me: -'We Can Funk' does nothing for me, whereas I know a lot of people here love it. -I think 'Come' is a lot better than 'The Gold Experience'. Obviously these aren't the most contoversial opinions in the world (I'm not saying 'Planet Earth' is better than 'Purple Rain' for example), but I'm interested to know what ideas you have about Prince that get people jumping down your throat.

We Can Funk is an amazing song, under rated by many people on here.

TGE has great songs, but as an album overall it sounds dated, over produced, and very corny compared to Come... IMO Come has stood the test of time much better than TGE, while during back when Come and TGE were released, TGE got all the apraise and Come was just side lined and ignored...

MusicFan20Ten said:

thedance said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

His new 'fro has got to go!

^ Right Hatrina.. I agree, away with the afro hairstyle..

Still a bit strange you say this because your chosen avatar includes Prince's biggest afro maybe ever

IKR? But the 'fro in the pic is the artist's interpretation, which I happen to like. If Prince's 'fro actually looked like that, I'd be cool with it, but sadly it does not and that's the problem.

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I stated this one many years ago, and I still believe it:

I believe Prince "leaked" the Black Album on purpose with the intention of it becoming a bootleg. (This opinion borders on being a conspiracy theory).

I think The Black Album only helped to promote Lovesexy, and Lovesexy very very much helped promote The Black album. The Lovesexy tourbook is practically an ad for the Black album, and that "hidden" message in the Alphabet Street video (don't buy the black album, I'm sorry) was some reverse psychology. If he really didn't want people to hear that album or buy it, he wouldn't have mentioned it so prominantly on tour, even singing Bob George throughout.

But the biggest "clue" was in the first track (My namesake "Le Grind") After searching everywhere for this hard-to-find (at the time) bootleg, the first thing the listener is greeted with is Prince saying :

"So you finally found it. Good. I'm glad"

And remember, this is an artist who used lots of fake names (Alexander Nevermind, Jaimie Starr, Joey Coco) and even sped up his voice and attributed it to "Camille" and eventually went by and unpronounceable symbol. And if The Black Album was reallly such an evil record he didn't want anyone to hear, he never would have let WB go ahead and put it out years later.

To me, Prince's Black Album stunt is one of his most impressive and imaginative. It was at the time, and might still be, the most famous bootleg of all time

KingSausage said:

I don't think Prince comes off as a very intelligent person, at least in the stereotypical "book smarts" sense. He may have a philosophical mind, but there are many times when he seems a little dumb.

I think he is more of an idealist and an artist---which can make him seem really naive about a lot of things. I think "intelligent" might be the wrong word. I mean, he is considered a musical genius (Ray Charles is also called The Genius) but, as you said, that isn't the same as book smarts. Artists tend to be idealistic and that can make them seem almost simple in many ways.

I do think he is easily swayed. I certainly thought he was much more intellectual prior to Larry Graham's religious influence.

Emancipation is his best album of the 90s

New Power Soul is good.

I think Lovesexy is ok. Black Album is much better.

Symbol is one of his worst albums.

Like Sign o the Times the way it is. All the songs work where they are and Its Gonna Be a Beautiful Night is a great song.

Housequake is shit

mojo said:

From three hours of Emancipation you can at a push make a good 20 minute ep

Yeah, but everybody's 20 minutes are different.

LeGrinde said:

I stated this one many years ago, and I still believe it:

I believe Prince "leaked" the Black Album on purpose with the intention of it becoming a bootleg. (This opinion borders on being a conspiracy theory).

I think The Black Album only helped to promote Lovesexy, and Lovesexy very very much helped promote The Black album. The Lovesexy tourbook is practically an ad for the Black album, and that "hidden" message in the Alphabet Street video (don't buy the black album, I'm sorry) was some reverse psychology. If he really didn't want people to hear that album or buy it, he wouldn't have mentioned it so prominantly on tour, even singing Bob George throughout.

But the biggest "clue" was in the first track (My namesake "Le Grind") After searching everywhere for this hard-to-find (at the time) bootleg, the first thing the listener is greeted with is Prince saying :

"So you finally found it. Good. I'm glad"

And if The Black Album was reallly such an evil record he didn't want anyone to hear, he never would have let WB go ahead and put it out years later.

To me, Prince's Black Album stunt is one of his most impressive and imaginative. It was at the time, and might still be, the most famous bootleg of all time

Don't think Prince had some master plan for TBA. Reportedly some copies went undestroyed (promo copies, boxes of product ready to be shipped). Prince incurred a substantial cost to stop the album release at the last minute (he wouldn't have let TBA get that far in the manufacturing/distribution process on purpose). And if this was some brilliant marketing scheme, then Prince could have chosen to release the album and easily capitalize on sales of TBA at that time (which he saw be bootlegged an estimated 500,000 copies).

.

It's not so much that Prince was that bothered by the album itself, altogether, but he reportedly had an experience at that time, an epiphany, whatever... and Prince apparently associated TBA as being related to that experience and, therefore, something to disassociate from. That's really the only explanation for why Prince canceled TBA. The material on the TBA itself is really not that offensive.

mojo said:

From three hours of Emancipation you can at a push make a good 20 minute ep

LOL, totally agree. I would struggle to make it to 20 minutes. Awful album.

I really enjoy listening to Animal Kingdom. I can ignore the lyrics and just enjoy the music and melody of the vocals, there is some lovely guitar work in this song and I think it is the best track of the The Truth album.

I do not like WDC that much, even skipped it back in the day.

I love NPS.

I don't care about P as a person. I'm a client.

LeGrinde said:

I stated this one many years ago, and I still believe it:

I believe Prince "leaked" the Black Album on purpose with the intention of it becoming a bootleg. (This opinion borders on being a conspiracy theory).

I think The Black Album only helped to promote Lovesexy, and Lovesexy very very much helped promote The Black album. The Lovesexy tourbook is practically an ad for the Black album, and that "hidden" message in the Alphabet Street video (don't buy the black album, I'm sorry) was some reverse psychology. If he really didn't want people to hear that album or buy it, he wouldn't have mentioned it so prominantly on tour, even singing Bob George throughout.

But the biggest "clue" was in the first track (My namesake "Le Grind") After searching everywhere for this hard-to-find (at the time) bootleg, the first thing the listener is greeted with is Prince saying :

"So you finally found it. Good. I'm glad"

And remember, this is an artist who used lots of fake names (Alexander Nevermind, Jaimie Starr, Joey Coco) and even sped up his voice and attributed it to "Camille" and eventually went by and unpronounceable symbol. And if The Black Album was reallly such an evil record he didn't want anyone to hear, he never would have let WB go ahead and put it out years later.

To me, Prince's Black Album stunt is one of his most impressive and imaginative. It was at the time, and might still be, the most famous bootleg of all time

Interesting theory, it wouldn't surprise me if it was true.

rasskinn said:

I do not like WDC that much.

KingSausage said:

I don't think Prince comes off as a very intelligent person, at least in the stereotypical "book smarts" sense. He may have a philosophical mind, but there are many times when he seems a little dumb.

Pfft - I could spend hours listening to him talk about chemtrails....

SoulAlive said:

ufoclub said:

you all are posting the popular opinion of this album, which is not so hot in most Prince fan's opinions on the org. But for this thread, about personal unpopular opinions, I'm saying just the opposite, it is his strongest most cohesive interesting all the way through album for me. The Black Album that is.

Are you kidding? The Black Album is loved by most fans.Whenever we do those 'Lovesexy vs.TBA' threads,TBA always seems to get the most love.

All the years I've been on here it seems like people worshipped Lovesexy way more than The Black Album. Check a ranking survey on here, there's got to be one handy... you know, rank the 80's albums or something like that.

Here's one: http://prince.org/msg/7/397629

"Adore" is the most overrated Prince song in history. Yep, from 1976 - 2015, there has not been one song in the fandom as overrated as "Adore"

LeGrinde said:

KingSausage said:

I don't think Prince comes off as a very intelligent person, at least in the stereotypical "book smarts" sense. He may have a philosophical mind, but there are many times when he seems a little dumb.

I think he is more of an idealist and an artist---which can make him seem really naive about a lot of things. I think "intelligent" might be the wrong word. I mean, he is considered a musical genius (Ray Charles is also called The Genius) but, as you said, that isn't the same as book smarts. Artists tend to be idealistic and that can make them seem almost simple in many ways.

I do think he is easily swayed. I certainly thought he was much more intellectual prior to Larry Graham's religious influence.

Good post.