bashraka said:

I don't expect Prince to be write a song with biting commentary like Curtis Mayfield or Gil Scott Heron but I hope this song is written from the perspective of a Black man first and foremost. Sometimes, Prince's reverence for God, which I commend, has sometimes inspired him to write trite and naive lyrics about social issues that are overly simplistic. The guy that wrote "Colonized Mind" is a powerful lament about personal actions that have consequences for the world at large hopefully will be at the helm for his ode to Baltimore in the wake of Freddie Gray protests.

I would LOVE IT if Prince wrote the song with all the bite and fight of Curtis Mayfield and Gil Scott Heron. It would b so on time right now.

I am hoping for a song with great strength, upbeat and one that we can all sing and remember for a long time to come...such a song for times like these are long long overdue

NinaB said:

Under the circumstances I'm not concerned about whether this track is to my tastes or not. Lots of folks in the public eye are very quiet right now... I'm glad he ain't one of them.

I think as fans many take reference from his past 'sociel commentary' songs.
As a Prince fan I would not just want him to put something out just because.

He would definately be critiqued for it, whether it is fans or not.

People in the public eyed don't really need to make a statement about a particular case or they can. I don't expect them too.
What happened in the 50s 60s 70s was a particular time, when it seems everyone was vocal musically

I actually do hope it is a song as Prince will do bringing people together with his spiritual foundation

Aerogram said:

The Org has to be one of the most negative places on Earth, it's ridiculously funny to read all the pre-pissed and pre-disappointed cranks with their laundry list of petty complaints and advice on what he should really be doing, like yeah I'd-much-much-prefer-a-hit-and-run-show-to-that-song-I'm-so-sure-I won't-like.

When even our dear Hatrina is calling for a little positivity, you know the negativity has reached an unmatched degree of absurdity.

Even if the song turns out not to be that great, it's obvious he's moved by what's happening in Baltimore and Joni Mitchell's condition and you gotta respect genuine grief and emotion at a basic human level. It ain't all about crafting pop tunes and being the perfect pop star.

TRUE! THE ORG IS ONE THE MOST NEGATIVE PLACES ON THIS EARTH! I REALLY CAN'T STAND TO VISIT THIS SITE! Whew, that felt good

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kgarcia863 said:

Aerogram said:

The Org has to be one of the most negative places on Earth, it's ridiculously funny to read all the pre-pissed and pre-disappointed cranks with their laundry list of petty complaints and advice on what he should really be doing, like yeah I'd-much-much-prefer-a-hit-and-run-show-to-that-song-I'm-so-sure-I won't-like.

When even our dear Hatrina is calling for a little positivity, you know the negativity has reached an unmatched degree of absurdity.

Even if the song turns out not to be that great, it's obvious he's moved by what's happening in Baltimore and Joni Mitchell's condition and you gotta respect genuine grief and emotion at a basic human level. It ain't all about crafting pop tunes and being the perfect pop star.

TRUE! THE ORG IS ONE THE MOST NEGATIVE PLACES ON THIS EARTH! I REALLY CAN'T STAND TO VISIT THIS SITE! Whew, that felt good

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lol you know you just opened yourself up right lol

I see it more a raw

I've seen some negative places, I've visited some really negative online groups. And the org is tame in comparison

We really have mix, I don't think it's a negative place

NOW after saying all that LOL

why on earth do you visit and post in a place that is so negative

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And I'm just using this a foreshadowing of what I have to do in directing people who want to talk about the org being negative to a thread started on the same subject in the Site Discussion forum.

Talking about Prince Music is on topic, Site opinions are not. I will have to uh moderate the and redirect from here on out.

the Negativity on Here is Getting Boring author:BlackBob www.Prince.org/msg/3/415846

thedoorkeeper said:

7roses said:

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Oh yeah? You think so huh....do me favour and have a look at the comments people are leaving in the comments section @ Billboard:

http://www.billboard.com/...es-artwork

Wow. Thanks for the link. I stopped reading around the point that someone called Prince a racist. He was also called a quadrosexual and a white lady. They be nasty on that board.

Comments on Prince in almost any of the mainstreamy general interest type sites tend to be pretty nasty. Actually, though, comments almost anywhere on the internet about almost anything include a very large amount of stuff that can only be explained by a very conscious effort to be as big a jerk as possible. The few exceptions that I've encountered tend to be a few limited interest things, with fairly small communities.

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Honestly, Prince.org isn't that negative, as a space. There are some people with set-in-stone opinions, and some people dislike those opinions (or just the dull monotony of them, both purely pro-recent-Prince and purely anti-recent-Prince), but except for the handful of people who really fit those two extremes regarding Prince since whatever date they choose as the cut-off, most orgers are fairly polite and respectful, even in disagreement.

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And those rude folks are really just playing a game between those two sides anyway (at least, I assume they are. This can't possibly matter that much to any of them). If you like the endless, pointless back and forth, you can watch. If not, it's pretty easy to ignore them. All you have to do is look to see the repetition of "always" or "never" or "the best of all time" or "worst crap I've ever smelled" and then ignore the rest of the post. If it happens 4 or 5 times in a row, just ignore that Orger for a few weeks, then check again to see if it's just a phase. Often it is... and sometimes (believe it or not) it's just an honest extreme response to a specific but limited aspect of Princeworld. If not, and that orger's just a boring troll? Well, the rest of us are pretty nice.

purplethunder3121 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

If I were Prince, I wouldn't do the internet either.

What the hell is a "quadrosexual?"

Obsessed with "fourplay"?

mrgone777 said:

Aerogram said:

The Org has to be one of the most negative places on Earth, it's ridiculously funny to read all the pre-pissed and pre-disappointed cranks with their laundry list of petty complaints and advice on what he should really be doing, like yeah I'd-much-much-prefer-a-hit-and-run-show-to-that-song-I'm-so-sure-I won't-like.

When even our dear Hatrina is calling for a little positivity, you know the negativity has reached an unmatched degree of absurdity.

Even if the song turns out not to be that great, it's obvious he's moved by what's happening in Baltimore and Joni Mitchell's condition and you gotta respect genuine grief and emotion at a basic human level. It ain't all about crafting pop tunes and being the perfect pop star.

Yeah, I agree with you 100%. Aerogram, I'm not even sure why some of these people are even in here. Its ridiculous to come to the board expecting conversation about one of our favorite artists and get instead an endless, negative drone, masquerading as "objectivity" or "anti-cultism." I've found many of these posters to have this entitled attitude like these jokers actually know Prince personally and he owes them something because......(a question not one of them can answer directly...usually long winded negative diatribes about how much "he has disappointed them" since like 1991 or something.) Weak. I'm equally a fan of bands/artists like Living Colour and 24-7 Spyz, Bjork, Radiohead....those fan sites never even approach the level of negativity here.

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I agree, sometimes I wonder why some people post here - you dont have to love everything or be a ballwasher but it's possible be objective without being an a&&hole.

I can't wait to hear the song and reading about how he feels about Joni, made me tear up a little. That little moment brings home the ultimate mortality we all face and how much Jonis music means to Prince - and how much his music means to me.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Everything is not Negative because it may be critical. Some people here are just joking around.

But the org isn't the only place that takes a critical look at the career of Prince.

Yes there can be some outright negative comments people make. But that is life as well.
I personally have a hard time dealing with people who are in such an adoration of another that they even will condone bad behaviour the entertainer does just because of who they are. The is definately unrealistic thinking. No different than people who seem to hate another artist even though they don't know them. Unrealistic.

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We will hear the song, I hope because he is my Prince it is good. But I will judge/critic it just like I do any other music, art, film, book etc

It's not a question of being in adoration or not allowing criticism, it's the ridiculous level of negativitgy for something that hasn't even been released yet that is breathtaking.

It says more than enough about the state of mind and attitude of some folks BEFORE they have any reason to be critical, so imagine after. It's the exact opposite of total adoration, isn't it? And just as dumb and irrelevant.

If people want to pick apart KCool for being automatically positive, then they should pick themselves apart for doing the exact opposite, it's just as fanatical.

Hold up... the funniest thing to come out of this latest Prince interview is that Prince is drinking alkaline water? That's almost as comical as his chemtrails argument.

One thing about Prince the last 20 years or so: if there is an ignorant idea, or a bullshit cause he will find it and stick to it like glue. Trayvon Martion was an actual tragedy. The two situations, referenced in the Prince song, not so much.

Honestly, my heart goes out to the good people of Baltimore who are victimized first by the Freddie Grays in their community, then by the ignorant kids who revel in lawlessness, and then finally by the media narcissists and celebrity opportunists. The 1%-ers who put on t-shirts, sing songs and wave for the cameras, because this is a 'I-was-there-when moment'. At the end of the day, they hop private jets and return to their mansions, Bentleys, and privileged upper-class lifestyles. The poor in Baltimore will still be broke, busted and disgusted when the dust settles, the sun comes up and they've burned down what little they had. The dopeman will CONTINUE find refuge in their communities, pimp their daughters and terrorize their daily lives.

They can burn Baltimore back to the stone-age, but poverty isn't going away anytime soon. If anything, it's spreading. Jesus said the poor will be with you ALWAYS. And Baltimore is just the latest example of a Black society, deifying a thug and community cancer (Tupac, anyone?). Fix whatever you want with law enforcement but nothing will change becaue the reality is that there isn't enough personal accountability in black communities. Impoverished is one thing. Impoverished and violent is an American-Black thing. Until that changes we ain't ever getting ahead.

Anyway, like many things Prince, 80's Prince did it better. "A Place In Heaven" has the best line for Baltimore, and it's a mindset that you know Prince himself truly believes. When I was a poor black child living just enough for the city, lol, these Prince lyrics regularly popped into my head when I went to school: "Life's what you make it, stop whining baby(stop whining baby)/It's all up to me and you". Prince ain't gonna tell Baltimore that, because he knows they don't want to hear it. In fact that's what all successful African-Americans do. We bounce up out the hood because we know the people there don't WANT to be successful, and will take out dreams DOWN with them if we let them. So... Prince can pretend to give a shit, but reality is he really don't and... you kind of know which of his women is feeding him this garbage. Can we move on, Prince? You can tell already the song is bad, but it's always entertaining when Prince summons the press.

funksterr said:

Hold up... the funniest thing to come out of this latest Prince interview is that Prince is drinking alkaline water? That's almost as comical as his chemtrails argument.

One thing about Prince the last 20 years or so: if there is an ignorant idea, or a bullshit cause he will find it and stick to it like glue. Trayvon Martion was an actual tragedy. The two situations, referenced in the Prince song, not so much.

Honestly, my heart goes out to the good people of Baltimore who are victimized first by the Freddie Grays in their community, then by the ignorant kids who revel in lawlessness, and then finally by the media narcissists and celebrity opportunists. The 1%-ers who put on t-shirts, sing songs and wave for the cameras, because this is a 'I-was-there-when moment'. At the end of the day, they hop private jets and return to their mansions, Bentleys, and privileged upper-class lifestyles. The poor in Baltimore will still be broke, busted and disgusted when the dust settles, the sun comes up and they've burned down what little they had. The dopeman will CONTINUE find refuge in their communities, pimp their daughters and terrorize their daily lives.

They can burn Baltimore back to the stone-age, but poverty isn't going away anytime soon. If anything, it's spreading. Jesus said the poor will be with you ALWAYS. And Baltimore is just the latest example of a Black society, deifying a thug and community cancer (Tupac, anyone?). Fix whatever you want with law enforcement but nothing will change becaue the reality is that there isn't enough personal accountability in black communities. Impoverished is one thing. Impoverished and violent is an American-Black thing. Until that changes we ain't ever getting ahead.

Anyway, like many things Prince, 80's Prince did it better. "A Place In Heaven" has the best line for Baltimore, and it's a mindset that you know Prince himself truly believes. When I was a poor black child living just enough for the city, lol, these Prince lyrics regularly popped into my head when I went to school: "Life's what you make it, stop whining baby(stop whining baby)/It's all up to me and you". Prince ain't gonna tell Baltimore that, because he knows they don't want to hear it. In fact that's what all successful African-Americans do. We bounce up out the hood because we know the people there don't WANT to be successful, and will take out dreams DOWN with them if we let them. So... Prince can pretend to give a shit, but reality is he really don't and... you kind of know which of his women is feeding him this garbage. Can we move on, Prince? You can tell already the song is bad, but it's always entertaining when Prince summons the press.

No you can't tell, this is just you mistaking your personal musings for the reality, you pre-decided all by yourself folks don't want to be successful, Prince isn't sincere, the song will be bad and all that.

Aerogram said:

funksterr said:

The song is still a damn no-show though. He didn't even perform it at that paid for peace rally last night. He was so moved to write the song and so moved to have his PR people tell everybody that would listen about the song but not moved enough to release the song?

This is the type of tomfoolery he often does, that pisses people off! If the song was not ready for whatever reason to be released then what the fuck was point in telling us about?

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nosajd said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

directing people who want to talk about the org being negative to a thread started on the same subject in the Site Discussion forum.

Talking about Prince Music is on topic, Site opinions are not. I will have to uh moderate the and redirect from here on out.

the Negativity on Here is Getting Boring author:BlackBob www.Prince.org/msg/3/415846

2elijah said:

Wow, missed this thread till this morning, 3 days and 200 posts late, read through them all, get to the end, and.... still no release for the song?!? Really?!? WTF Prince? Are you kidding me?

How is this song going to help anything if only a couple reporters get to hear it? Unbelievable...

datdude said:

I HATE this f'ing org. Why do I keep coming back?!! I guess when the song is actually released the there'll be what 15 pages of shit pissing!? Geeeez. Some of u dogmatic Negatrons need to play the lottery since u know everything, then get a labotomy, or just by an island and rid us of ur ceaseless bullish*! [Edited 5/3/15 6:03am]

Well, some of us do know how to spell lobotomy, anyway. (Sorry, I couldn't resist. Misspellings drive me bonkers). And why would we be just going by an insland, when we could actually purchase one?

Aerogram said:

funksterr said:

Hold up... the funniest thing to come out of this latest Prince interview is that Prince is drinking alkaline water? That's almost as comical as his chemtrails argument.

One thing about Prince the last 20 years or so: if there is an ignorant idea, or a bullshit cause he will find it and stick to it like glue. Trayvon Martion was an actual tragedy. The two situations, referenced in the Prince song, not so much.

Honestly, my heart goes out to the good people of Baltimore who are victimized first by the Freddie Grays in their community, then by the ignorant kids who revel in lawlessness, and then finally by the media narcissists and celebrity opportunists. The 1%-ers who put on t-shirts, sing songs and wave for the cameras, because this is a 'I-was-there-when moment'. At the end of the day, they hop private jets and return to their mansions, Bentleys, and privileged upper-class lifestyles. The poor in Baltimore will still be broke, busted and disgusted when the dust settles, the sun comes up and they've burned down what little they had. The dopeman will CONTINUE find refuge in their communities, pimp their daughters and terrorize their daily lives.

They can burn Baltimore back to the stone-age, but poverty isn't going away anytime soon. If anything, it's spreading. Jesus said the poor will be with you ALWAYS. And Baltimore is just the latest example of a Black society, deifying a thug and community cancer (Tupac, anyone?). Fix whatever you want with law enforcement but nothing will change becaue the reality is that there isn't enough personal accountability in black communities. Impoverished is one thing. Impoverished and violent is an American-Black thing. Until that changes we ain't ever getting ahead.

Anyway, like many things Prince, 80's Prince did it better. "A Place In Heaven" has the best line for Baltimore, and it's a mindset that you know Prince himself truly believes. When I was a poor black child living just enough for the city, lol, these Prince lyrics regularly popped into my head when I went to school: "Life's what you make it, stop whining baby(stop whining baby)/It's all up to me and you". Prince ain't gonna tell Baltimore that, because he knows they don't want to hear it. In fact that's what all successful African-Americans do. We bounce up out the hood because we know the people there don't WANT to be successful, and will take out dreams DOWN with them if we let them. So... Prince can pretend to give a shit, but reality is he really don't and... you kind of know which of his women is feeding him this garbage. Can we move on, Prince? You can tell already the song is bad, but it's always entertaining when Prince summons the press.

No you can't tell, this is just you mistaking your personal musings for the reality, you pre-decided all by yourself folks don't want to be successful, Prince isn't sincere, the song will be bad and all that.

Yes you can. Did you see the lyrics? It's a bad song without a doubt.

As for my pre-deciding that Prince isn't sincere...it's true of all those that live a life of opulence and indulgence, no matter who they are. You can't wipe your ass, with hundred dollar bills, and still care about the poor. Though rich people SURE don't like to admit it. Here is the thing: the whole purpose of the monetary system is to limit and keep some on the bottom. Let's say life was fair and everybody had a $100,000,000. What's the value of money then? What does it buy you? Nothing, right? And that's my point about the lack of sincerity from the media and the celebrity narcissists. Society's elite and the rich and famous, lose their first class status unless there is a significant amount of poor on the bottom rung of the ladder, to be second class, and third class citizens. That's a fact.

You solve poverty, and you end wealth. Ying and yang.

Watch what changes. Nothing.

MIRvmn said:

2elijah said:

I wonder if some of the youth in Baltimore are going to afford a subscription to Tidal to hear the song? It should have been on iTunes or Amazon, which is more affordable.

Ths best thing would have been to release it on youtube for free but that would never happen

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...with a WeTransfer link to download the song for FREE as a well meant gesture from the heart to the people of Baltimore (and others) who are interested to hear this song and/or how moved Prince is.

Make it available through @Purplessence so that channel gets some exposure as your official news source. #Love4oneanother #AllLivesMatter

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Prince...you claim "It's time to hear the guitar play", well...don't sit on it then.

V10LETBLUES said:

Not cool to marginalize someone feeling this , rich or not. It's not like Prince never felt racism, he knows what it's like to be black and poor. He has donated money to causes in private without publicity as well as performances designed to bring attention to causes he feels for. That's what we all should do, not keep quiet. Much props to Prince. Now, when it comes to music, some gave the misguided notion that all critiques, which is par for the course in art, should be positive. And saying misguided is just being nice. I wouldn't want to be too negative. Period happy face. 😊

No amount of charity will solve the problem. The issue is haves and have nots and that will never change. Prince isn't the only wealthy person living in an ivory tower while people are starving in the streets. How many black billionaires are profiting, in the face of mass poverty like what's seen in Baltimore? Plenty. It's just the way things are. Capitalism is the greatest system mankind has ever devised, however it has it's downside. There has to be mass poverty at the bottom in order to have a few winners at the top.

So when Prince, or any other black millionaires and billionaires, gives up their place at the top of the financial system for a seat at the bottom with the Baltimore rioters then I'll belive them. But until then, they are clearly talking out of both sides of their mouthes.

NinaB said:

funksterr said:

Hold up... the funniest thing to come out of this latest Prince interview is that Prince is drinking alkaline water? That's almost as comical as his chemtrails argument.

One thing about Prince the last 20 years or so: if there is an ignorant idea, or a bullshit cause he will find it and stick to it like glue. Trayvon Martion was an actual tragedy. The two situations, referenced in the Prince song, not so much.

Honestly, my heart goes out to the good people of Baltimore who are victimized first by the Freddie Grays in their community, then by the ignorant kids who revel in lawlessness, and then finally by the media narcissists and celebrity opportunists. The 1%-ers who put on t-shirts, sing songs and wave for the cameras, because this is a 'I-was-there-when moment'. At the end of the day, they hop private jets and return to their mansions, Bentleys, and privileged upper-class lifestyles. The poor in Baltimore will still be broke, busted and disgusted when the dust settles, the sun comes up and they've burned down what little they had. The dopeman will CONTINUE find refuge in their communities, pimp their daughters and terrorize their daily lives.

They can burn Baltimore back to the stone-age, but poverty isn't going away anytime soon. If anything, it's spreading. Jesus said the poor will be with you ALWAYS. And Baltimore is just the latest example of a Black society, deifying a thug and community cancer (Tupac, anyone?). Fix whatever you want with law enforcement but nothing will change becaue the reality is that there isn't enough personal accountability in black communities. Impoverished is one thing. Impoverished and violent is an American-Black thing. Until that changes we ain't ever getting ahead.

Anyway, like many things Prince, 80's Prince did it better. "A Place In Heaven" has the best line for Baltimore, and it's a mindset that you know Prince himself truly believes. When I was a poor black child living just enough for the city, lol, these Prince lyrics regularly popped into my head when I went to school: "Life's what you make it, stop whining baby(stop whining baby)/It's all up to me and you". Prince ain't gonna tell Baltimore that, because he knows they don't want to hear it. In fact that's what all successful African-Americans do. We bounce up out the hood because we know the people there don't WANT to be successful, and will take out dreams DOWN with them if we let them. So... Prince can pretend to give a shit, but reality is he really don't and... you kind of know which of his women is feeding him this garbage. Can we move on, Prince? You can tell already the song is bad, but it's always entertaining when Prince summons the press.

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funksterr said:

I don't have much to contribute to a discussion about a song that hasn't been released yet.....

But I will say this. All the usual suspects trying to hide behind that "On every other site people say horrible things about artists" shit is being cheeky as all hell....lol

You can't compare what people are saying about President Obama, Kim Kardashian, George Clooney Prince, Rihanna, Drake, Kendrick Lamar, Lebron James,Taylor Swift, ect...on Billboard, ESPN, VIBE, Redditt, TMZ or other news/music/pop culture outlets. Because those sites cover subjects in general (and most of the time) unbiased terms. You don't go to Billboard as a fan because you think that your favorte artist is going to be beloved and celebrated. Readers that come to those sites are there to discuss, comment, troll, criticize, and debate on these artists and subjects because that's the way its been done in free press journalism since the dawn of the printing press....Comments sections....editorials....ect....

Specific fan sites though? That's an entirely different animal. When I go to a Radiohead site I don't read the same sky-is-falling-Prince-sucks shit I read at the Org....lol...Sure these fans criticize Thom and boys if they happen to not dig a certain song or a performance. But you rarely see their fans doing silly, ridiculous and (at times) straight up trolling posts about how a song sucks even before it comes out....

And that's the Org. A place that is now dominated by people that have gotten sick of Prince, people that hate Prince, People that think Prince can do no wrong, or people that think they are the smartest Prince fan in the room. Most of the general Prince fans have left this place because it's become a shit show. What u have left now is two extremes: People that would wash Prince's Purple drawers and the Trolls who dismiss his music before it's even released....

Fuck this place and this dumb ass thread....lol