babynoz said:

NinaB said:

funksterr said: Get Well Soon.

Exactly.

At least Bart's and other's rants are fact based. This one has the nerve to quote Jesus while in the midst of demonizing everybody he can think of based on whatever the voices in his head tell him.

Just being opinionated as usual.

Prince is an artist. He is highly impressionable. I believe his interest in these issues are in part driven by his pursuit of a certain woman. I'd be cool with it if the music was good, but it's clearly not.
Look at how fast, he recorded, promoted, and began the process to release this whack Baltimore track, yet he can't get off his azz for PR, outtakes or anything else that's actually good.

I think as fans, we need to send a mole to infiltrate Paisley Park. We need to send a girl to sex him into putting out the Purple Rain era outtakes.

Ladies of The Org... speak now if any of you are up to the task!

funksterr said:

babynoz said:

Exactly.

At least Bart's and other's rants are fact based. This one has the nerve to quote Jesus while in the midst of demonizing everybody he can think of based on whatever the voices in his head tell him.

Just being opinionated as usual.

Prince is an artist. He is highly impressionable. I believe his interest in these issues are in part driven by his pursuit of a certain woman. I'd be cool with it if the music was good, but it's clearly not.
Look at how fast, he recorded, promoted, and began the process to release this whack Baltimore track, yet he can't get off his azz for PR, outtakes or anything else that's actually good.

I think as fans, we need to send a mole to infiltrate Paisley Park. We need to send a girl to sex him into putting out the Purple Rain era outtakes.

Ladies of The Org... speak now if any of you are up to the task!

I believe I saw a unicorn yesterday.

V10LETBLUES said:

funksterr said:

No amount of charity will solve the problem. The issue is haves and have nots and that will never change. Prince isn't the only wealthy person living in an ivory tower while people are starving in the streets. How many black billionaires are profiting, in the face of mass poverty like what's seen in Baltimore? Plenty. It's just the way things are. Capitalism is the greatest system mankind has ever devised, however it has it's downside. There has to be mass poverty at the bottom in order to have a few winners at the top.

So when Prince, or any other black millionaires and billionaires, gives up their place at the top of the financial system for a seat at the bottom with the Baltimore rioters then I'll belive them. But until then, they are clearly talking out of both sides of their mouthes.

But it's not do much about poverty, it's about bringing a tidal wave of noise to say police brutality cannot go unpunished. And with enough people calling to an end it cannot be ignored. And I do see change coming. We need to keep the moment going. Not every man who has been luckily enough to go from rags to riches is not the same. I think Prince optimizes that.

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murph said:

V10LETBLUES said:

murph said:

I don't have much to contribute to a discussion about a song that hasn't been released yet.....

But I will say this. All the usual suspects trying to hide behind that "On every other site people say horrible things about artists" shit is being cheeky as all hell....lol

You can't compare what people are saying about President Obama, Kim Kardashian, George Clooney Prince, Rihanna, Drake, Kendrick Lamar, Lebron James,Taylor Swift, ect...on Billboard, ESPN, VIBE, Redditt, TMZ or other news/music/pop culture outlets. Because those sites cover subjects in general (and most of the time) unbiased terms. You don't go to Billboard as a fan because you think that your favorte artist is going to be beloved and celebrated. Readers that come to those sites are there to discuss, comment, troll, criticize, and debate on these artists and subjects because that's the way its been done in free press journalism since the dawn of the printing press....Comments sections....editorials....ect....

Specific fan sites though? That's an entirely different animal. When I go to a Radiohead site I don't read the same sky-is-falling-Prince-sucks shit I read at the Org....lol...Sure these fans criticize Thom and boys if they happen to not dig a certain song or a performance. But you rarely see their fans doing silly, ridiculous and (at times) straight up trolling posts about how a song sucks even before it comes out....

And that's the Org. A place that is now dominated by people that have gotten sick of Prince, people that hate Prince, People that think Prince can do no wrong, or people that think they are the smartest Prince fan in the room. Most of the general Prince fans have left this place because it's become a shit show. What u have left now is two extremes: People that would wash Prince's Purple drawers and the Trolls who dismiss his music before it's even released....

Fuck this place and this dumb ass thread....lol

The most negatively is from fools like you. Always being butt hurt if anyone dare say something negative about new product. You personally come off like someone with something at stake. Are you involved in his business even indirectly? Art will alway come hand in hand with critique. They are not two completely different things. A fact that will never ever ever ever change. Are you involved in promotion? Or are you just a sycophant? And if you are you are in promotion you do a sorry ass job at it. [Edited 5/3/15 11:29am]

First, I think I've been very respectful to u Blues...Even gave props to one of your comments in this thread....Unless I specifically called you out of your name I see no reason for u personally go there....Keep it clean.....

Secondly, I never said we are not allowed to say anything negative about artists. Either u didn't read my post or you are on some Strawman shit....

Here it is in a nutshell....Going to a site dedicated to a specific artist and having hardly anything constructive to say about said artist and making negative post after negative post is silly and a waste of time...

Constructive Criticism = Prince needs to get better representation and a better machine around him and stop having a parade of Yes Men kissing his ass....

Trolling = Did you read those lyrics? That song sucks! (even before hearing said song...)

U see the difference?

[Edited 5/3/15 11:58am]

murph said:

V10LETBLUES said:

But it's not do much about poverty, it's about bringing a tidal wave of noise to say police brutality cannot go unpunished. And with enough people calling to an end it cannot be ignored. And I do see change coming. We need to keep the moment going. Not every man who has been luckily enough to go from rags to riches is not the same. I think Prince optimizes that.

Police brutality is an issue I can understand. Prince's song mentions Mike Brown and Freddie Grey. Mike Brown was in the act of trying to murder an officer before he was gunned down. Freddie Grey, looks more like a freak accident compounded by police indifference. The riots came as a result of misinformation spread by local media, eager to make a name for themselves, in a 'this-is-our-Trayvon' fury. I think as the facts have come out, the situation is just a little bit different than initial reports suggested. There are legitimate police brutality cases out there, including one where I'm from in Detroit which was heavily documented by video and feature a completely innocent black man, Floyd Dent, getting the living shit beat out of him for no reason whatsoever and mass police cover-up.

Prince, for some reason, latched onto the two incidents that involve more of a spectacle and sideshow. To me he is pimping the situation, in much the same way Baltimore media has, and all the other black celebs that will come and go and leave the poor in Baltimore to fend the best way they can, when the circus dies down.

V10LETBLUES said:

murph said:

First, I think I've been very respectful to u Blues...Even gave props to one of your comments in this thread....Unless I specifically called you out of your name I see no reason for u personally go there....Keep it clean.....

Secondly, I never said we are not allowed to say anything negative about artists. Either u didn't read my post or you are on some Strawman shit....

Here it is in a nutshell....Going to a site dedicated to a specific artist and having hardly anything constructive to say about said artist and making negative post after negative post is silly and a waste of time...

Constructive Criticism = Prince needs to get better representation and a better machine around him and stop having a parade of Yes Men kissing his ass....

Trolling = Did you read those lyrics? That song sucks! (even before hearing said song...)

U see the difference?

[Edited 5/3/15 11:58am]

Look we have different age demographics, different languages, different mental states, there is "the everything is a masterpiece" to "everything is crap" and everything in between. That's the beauty and ugly side of the Internet. Of all people here on the organization. There is no check list of the things people can and not think. Thank god. I always expect you of all people to know better . I think higher of you than the average fan here. Or is it wrong for me to have thought that? [Edited 5/3/15 12:16pm]

What u think about me is moot, Blues......If I call u a shit poster and call you everything but a child of God then it is what it is. You come back at me, it's all good, ya dig? I'm a big boy, homie...

But calling me out of my name when I didn't go there is not something I'm cool with. Also, your condescending tone is cute and all. But can you have a discussion with folks without acting like u r the smartest mufucker in the room? lol

Like for real? I don't care about age, race, background or any other excuse. This place has been on some bullshit for a minute. And it goes beyond whether or not people talk shit about a multi-millionaire who is well past his artistic prime.....

funksterr said:

funksterr said:

V10LETBLUES said:

But it's not do much about poverty, it's about bringing a tidal wave of noise to say police brutality cannot go unpunished. And with enough people calling to an end it cannot be ignored. And I do see change coming. We need to keep the moment going. Not every man who has been luckily enough to go from rags to riches is not the same. I think Prince optimizes that.

Police brutality is an issue I can understand. Prince's song mentions Mike Brown and Freddie Grey. Mike Brown was in the act of trying to murder an officer before he was gunned down. Freddie Grey, looks more like a freak accident compounded by police indifference. The riots came as a result of misinformation spread by local media, eager to make a name for themselves, in a 'this-is-our-Trayvon' fury. I think as the facts have come out, the situation is just a little bit different than initial reports suggested. There are legitimate police brutality cases out there, including one where I'm from in Detroit which was heavily documented by video and feature a completely innocent black man, Floyd Dent, getting the living shit beat out of him for no reason whatsoever and mass police cover-up.

Prince, for some reason, latched onto the two incidents that involve more of a spectacle and sideshow. To me he is pimping the situation, in much the same way Baltimore media has, and all the other black celebs that will come and go and leave the poor in Baltimore to fend the best way they can, when the circus dies down.

Black folks don't too much trust the judicial system. So just because the courts deemed that an unarmed Mike Brown was going to kill a cop with his bear hands black folks have seen and heard it all before.....

So what u r going on about is just Greek.....Prince being a black man shares much of that racial historical viewpoint....Black millionaires who wear high heels and play the guitar also understand the racist history of this country....

luv4u said:

[ATTENTION: Please do not derail the thread into a p & r discussion.

If you want to discuss the politics about the Freddie Gray situation then please post here http://prince.org/msg/105/415705 in the p & r forum. This thread is to discuss the topic of Prince recording of a song. Thanks - luv4u]

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7roses said:

luv4u said:

[ATTENTION: Please do not derail the thread into a p & r discussion.

If you want to discuss the politics about the Freddie Gray situation then please post here http://prince.org/msg/105/415705 in the p & r forum. This thread is to discuss the topic of Prince recording of a song. Thanks - luv4u]

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This thread needs to be closed until the song is released. Becauese there's nothing else to discuss until then.

2elijah said:

nosajd said:

“We're going to talk to Jay-Z and his people about streaming it on ‘Tidal',” he shared with a nod.

This is what agrivates me about Prince sometimes. Tidal as of now is a failed attempt at competing with itunes & other streaming venues in favor of being more lucravtive/fair to the recording artist. Once again, making it about him & not about what inspired him to create the song in the first place. I just don't get it.

I wonder if some of the youth in Baltimore are going to afford a subscription to Tidal to hear the song? It should have been on iTunes or Amazon, which is more affordable.

Exactly. In the "spirit" of the reason for the song why doesn't he just put it out there for free?? Does Prince really make money on his current releases anyway, other than the occasional one-time deal he might make?

OldFriends4Sale said:

kgarcia863 said:

TRUE! THE ORG IS ONE THE MOST NEGATIVE PLACES ON THIS EARTH! I REALLY CAN'T STAND TO VISIT THIS SITE! Whew, that felt good

... directing people who want to talk about the org being negative to a thread started on the same subject in the Site Discussion forum.

Direct discussion on the Baltimore case can be discussed here: http://prince.org/msg/105/415705

Talking about Prince Music is on topic, Site opinions are not. I will have to uh moderate the and redirect from here on out.

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the Negativity on Here is Getting Boring author:BlackBob www.Prince.org/msg/3/415846

Left open temporarily so you all can read the two topics discussed and peoples opinions.
Please do join the discussion created by BlackBob in Site Discussion on your views on the Org

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Discussion on the Dance Rally 4 Peace here http://prince.org/msg/12/415935 Paisley Park DANCE RALLY 4 PEACE. Saturday May 2, 2015. Starts at NINE THIRTY

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Thank U

May U Live 2 C th Dawn

Is Prince Planning To Release His Tribute Song To Baltimore On Tidal?

According to a press release, Prince's song is a tribute to "all of the people of the city of Baltimore."

murph said:

funksterr said:

Police brutality is an issue I can understand. Prince's song mentions Mike Brown and Freddie Grey. Mike Brown was in the act of trying to murder an officer before he was gunned down. Freddie Grey, looks more like a freak accident compounded by police indifference. The riots came as a result of misinformation spread by local media, eager to make a name for themselves, in a 'this-is-our-Trayvon' fury. I think as the facts have come out, the situation is just a little bit different than initial reports suggested. There are legitimate police brutality cases out there, including one where I'm from in Detroit which was heavily documented by video and feature a completely innocent black man, Floyd Dent, getting the living shit beat out of him for no reason whatsoever and mass police cover-up.

Prince, for some reason, latched onto the two incidents that involve more of a spectacle and sideshow. To me he is pimping the situation, in much the same way Baltimore media has, and all the other black celebs that will come and go and leave the poor in Baltimore to fend the best way they can, when the circus dies down.

Black folks don't too much trust the judicial system. So just because the courts deemed that an unarmed Mike Brown was going to kill a cop with his bear hands black folks have seen and heard it all before.....

So what u r going on about is just Greek.....Prince being a black man shares much of that racial historical viewpoint....Black millionaires who wear high heels and play the guitar also understand the racist history of this country....

I don't agree with that, the fool was chastised for writing 'Slave' on his face despite having everything handed to him and given every opportunity..

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The artwork is all wrong for this subject and Prince has never been able to outgrow his comic book image. Months ago, when Common gave his talk and Prince could be seen in the background all I could think was that it was such a missed opportunity all these years that Prince had never made such a statement. It wasn't even a changing of the guard. It was just Prince willingly sitting in the back of the bus, having fought the wrong fights for far too many years.

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As for the new track, it's going to be just short of impossible to outdo 'The Charade'.

What was that that Billy said? "D'Angelo is squeezing, kiddo. Better kick ass tomorrow night or else..."

OldFriends4Sale said:

According to a press release, Prince's song is a tribute to "all of the people of the city of Baltimore."

FOX 9 EXCLUSIVE: Prince r...isley Park

As dusk fell over Minnesota, many watched details surrounding Freddie Gray's death unfold, while a message resounded from Paisley Park's soundstage. Prince and 3rdEyeGirl are in peaceful protest

murph said:

funksterr said:

Police brutality is an issue I can understand. Prince's song mentions Mike Brown and Freddie Grey. Mike Brown was in the act of trying to murder an officer before he was gunned down. Freddie Grey, looks more like a freak accident compounded by police indifference. The riots came as a result of misinformation spread by local media, eager to make a name for themselves, in a 'this-is-our-Trayvon' fury. I think as the facts have come out, the situation is just a little bit different than initial reports suggested. There are legitimate police brutality cases out there, including one where I'm from in Detroit which was heavily documented by video and feature a completely innocent black man, Floyd Dent, getting the living shit beat out of him for no reason whatsoever and mass police cover-up.

Prince, for some reason, latched onto the two incidents that involve more of a spectacle and sideshow. To me he is pimping the situation, in much the same way Baltimore media has, and all the other black celebs that will come and go and leave the poor in Baltimore to fend the best way they can, when the circus dies down.

Black folks don't too much trust the judicial system. So just because the courts deemed that an unarmed Mike Brown was going to kill a cop with his bear hands black folks have seen and heard it all before.....

So what u r going on about is just Greek.....Prince being a black man shares much of that racial historical viewpoint....Black millionaires who wear high heels and play the guitar also understand the racist history of this country....

I think Prince is a race unto himself. I personally do not think that Prince shares that viewpoint. He might have at time emphasized certain racial connections, but I really think Prince is a man unto himself. And Like in Party Up, Uptown, Paisley Park, the Cross, I think the lyrics to this song still mirror that foundational direction we here in those songs.

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And since Joni Mitchell has been discussed in the same introspective concerns of Prince, WHEN she is better, he needs to do a collaborative album with her

iZsaZsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

According to a press release, Prince's song is a tribute to "all of the people of the city of Baltimore."

FOX 9 EXCLUSIVE: Prince r...isley Park

As dusk fell over Minnesota, many watched details surrounding Freddie Gray's death unfold, while a message resounded from Paisley Park's soundstage. Prince and 3rdEyeGirl are in peaceful protest

I got it.

U have the song?

OldFriends4Sale said:

I'm hoping the lyrics for "Baltimore" were just an excerpt given to support the story. If Prince is singing this song from a spiritual point of view, that's cool. But the lyrics could be dismissed by the people it's dedicated to as being sacchrine with nothing addressing any issue pragmatically. "Colonized Mind", "We March", "Sign O' The Times" even an acoustic number in the vein of his rendition of "Motherless Child" would be amazing. But considering we are still waiting to hear the song, what's the point of talking about the song "Baltimore" if only a reporter heard it.

1 week later... maybe he is saving this for the anniversary re-issue of Purple Rain

TheGoldStandard said:

1 week later... maybe he is saving this for the anniversary re-issue of Purple Rain

The song was announced last Friday.

Felt like a week. Regardless what are we waiting for? The CDs to be shrinkwrapped? Interesting strategy "I wrote a song!" Oh nice! "Here are the lyrics" Wait.

[Edited 5/4/15 9:49am]

We got the artwork in a press release, we got the lyrics in a follow-up Fox9 exclusive but so far nobody heard his guitar play for Freddie Gray.

What's the wait?

Why not share the song the same way Judith Hill's album was shared...for free. Why isn't this song on the radio?

Why get the message out through CNN that you recorded a song, which is of course a very nice gesture, without sharing said song asap...

People wanna hear your guitar play...don't sit on it okay?

I don't have press agents nor millions of fans...for that matter I don't even have any money, but I can write songs.

This is my humble offering in relation to whats going on these days.

https://thegreatness.bandcamp.com/

[Edited 5/4/15 10:39am]

What if the song is a masterpiece? ahh, did I say that?

I meant Masterpiece for Beiber.