KingSausage said:

This is atrocious. Pure fucking garbage. This song is as "art official" as music gets. Time for the NPG Operator to announce Prince is dead again.

prince esta muerto

prince esta muerto

que viva para siempre

la chica des ojos tercera

IstenSzek said:

Se7en said:

It's a nice enough song - not quite "filler" but also not "single" either. It's got some clever bits and standard Prince elements. It's definitely a PRINCE song and not something trying to be otherwise. .

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Having said that, the main detractor (to me) is how digital it sounds including his voice. That might be the intention of this album though -- to be a stark contrast to the analog-recorded PlectrumElectrum.

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Quick summary: it's a smoother version of Incense & Candles crossed with the Adam & Eve remix of TGRES sprinkled with a bit of NPGMC download.

I love Incense and Candles and hate this song, so I guess I don't get the comparisons.

Gohi said:

Are people really going to defend him using someone else's instrumental?
That is unprecedented. There's sampling and there's this...

I'll defend it, it's just a three note loop. Scaffolding for the lyrics and melody. Hardly "unprecedented."

xpertluva said:

IstenSzek said:

all i know is, the 4 remaining tracks we haven't heard yet (i'm still convinced that

those affirmation I, II, III tracks are not songs but segues) better be picking up

the pace and have some serious beats, because so far this looks like a late night

smooching album more than anything else. variations on the same slick groove,

song after song. it's like a cross between MPLSound and Emancipation Disc 2 but

more boring.

having said that, i still enjoy it. i'm just a sucker for prince music. but it's not an

awfully inventive or banging experience this far.

Ugh, you think the Affirmation pieces are segues? I've been hoping they're a long suite ala A Love Supreme. I know, my head must be in the clouds.

i really really really hope i'm wrong and that you are right and they are long suites,

because i would really love that.

dustoff said:

Gohi said:

Are people really going to defend him using someone else's instrumental?
That is unprecedented. There's sampling and there's this...

I'll defend it, it's just a three note loop. Scaffolding for the lyrics and melody. Hardly "unprecedented."

Also a synthesizer arpeggio in the background.

dustoff said:

Gohi said:

Are people really going to defend him using someone else's instrumental?
That is unprecedented. There's sampling and there's this...

I'll defend it, it's just a three note loop. Scaffolding for the lyrics and melody. Hardly "unprecedented."

didn't he basically take a few of Sandra St Victor's songs for emancipation

and then just run with them?

Who cares if it's someone elses groove, though? "The Greatest Romance Ever Sold" relies heavily on Craig Mack's "Flava In Ya Ear", to the point where Flava producer Easy Mo Bee lists the song in his own production discography! This isn't anything new.

this isnt the output of someone who hasn't put out a full-length CD in four or five years (if oyu want to count a CD that never hit American shores).

This is someone putting out substandard shit to get his masters back, a la Chaos and Disorder (except that one was at least a cool listen in parts).

I really like this one. I think it's strange that Prince has sampled such a large amount of another artists music, though. Prince has in the past (to my knowledge) only ever sampled in small amounts, such as the James brown bit on 'Gett Off'.

I like the chorus a lot, but I gotta agree with some of the people here. I've been saying this a lot, I'm not keen on Prince using auto tune on his voice. He doesn't need it.

babynoz said:

Se7en said:

It's a nice enough song - not quite "filler" but also not "single" either. It's got some clever bits and standard Prince elements. It's definitely a PRINCE song and not something trying to be otherwise. .

.

Having said that, the main detractor (to me) is how digital it sounds including his voice. That might be the intention of this album though -- to be a stark contrast to the analog-recorded PlectrumElectrum.

.

Quick summary: it's a smoother version of Incense & Candles crossed with the Adam & Eve remix of TGRES sprinkled with a bit of NPGMC download.

I love Incense and Candles and hate this song, so I guess I don't get the comparisons.

I love Incense and Candles too I like this song though I'm sorry he had to borrow the beat from another artist

IstenSzek said:

Mila's a lifelong Prince fan, by the way, who also goes by the name "Japollonia" in reference to her half-Japanese ancestry. Her sister is a well known singer too, Jhene Aiko. They are both pretty hot right now, Jhene does a bunch of stuff with Drake. Mila was in the "Diamonds & Pearls" video too.

dustoff said:

Gohi said:

Are people really going to defend him using someone else's instrumental?
That is unprecedented. There's sampling and there's this...

I'll defend it, it's just a three note loop. Scaffolding for the lyrics and melody. Hardly "unprecedented."

Are you sure Prince wasn't the originator? He's a producer also...and gives away alot of his stuff...think about it.

IstenSzek said:

xpertluva said:

Ugh, you think the Affirmation pieces are segues? I've been hoping they're a long suite ala A Love Supreme. I know, my head must be in the clouds.

i really really really hope i'm wrong and that you are right and they are long suites,

because i would really love that.

I think you're probably right about the Affirmation tracks being segues.

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I like Clouds, Breakdown and Breakfast but not liking U Know at all, so lets see what the other unheard tracks bring. We'll hopefully end up with a few decent songs between the 2 albums and not too many stinkers

Militant said:

Mila's a lifelong Prince fan, by the way, who also goes by the name "Japollonia" in reference to her half-Japanese ancestry. Her sister is a well known singer too, Jhene Aiko. They are both pretty hot right now, Jhene does a bunch of stuff with Drake. Mila was in the "Diamonds & Pearls" video too.

Prince trying to become relevant to the teen/20+ crowd.

There was quirky Prince, there was even weird Prince, and there was innovative Prince.

This is none of these. This is Prince who has been fawned after by a bunch of yea-sayers.

When he worked with Wendy & Lisa, they had him listen to Stravinsky, Miles, Coltrane and the Beatles.

These people now try to get him to listen to today's dreck, and he went one step further and allows tem to produce.

Abysmal effort... so far.

Thank God for Adonis & Bathsheeba which tanks all of this.

Pretty weak to be honest. It sounds as if his voice is coming through a computer

littlebandit said:

Militant said:

Mila's a lifelong Prince fan, by the way, who also goes by the name "Japollonia" in reference to her half-Japanese ancestry. Her sister is a well known singer too, Jhene Aiko. They are both pretty hot right now, Jhene does a bunch of stuff with Drake. Mila was in the "Diamonds & Pearls" video too.

Prince trying to become relevant to the teen/20+ crowd.

There was quirky Prince, there was even weird Prince, and there was innovative Prince.

This is none of these. This is Prince who has been fawned after by a bunch of yea-sayers.

When he worked with Wendy & Lisa, they had him listen to Stravinsky, Miles, Coltrane and the Beatles.

These people now try to get him to listen to today's dreck, and he went one step further and allows tem to produce.

Abysmal effort... so far.

Thank God for Adonis & Bathsheeba which tanks all of this.

Yeah because his father who was a Jazz musician did not expose him to shit until Wendy and Lisa came into his life.

[Edited 9/1/14 8:04am]

Genesia said:

Wait a minute... Art Official Age. Artificial Age. Samples...autotune... This is satire! Right? Please tell me it's satire...

Probably in the same sense as "P Control" or "Face Down" are satirical takes on hiphop. It's Prince taking elements that do not really belong in his own music and making something that he himself (apparently) digs out of them.

Eh, he's been doing that since "Under The Cherry Moon" iif you think about it.

Genesia said:

Wait a minute... Art Official Age. Artificial Age. Samples...autotune... This is satire! Right? Please tell me it's satire...

Smillan said:

Pretty weak to be honest. It sounds as if his voice is coming through a computer

His voice is coming through a computer.

that a nice choice of instrumental though..

i probably would have never heard it if he hadn't chosen it

wonder505 said:

littlebandit said:

Prince trying to become relevant to the teen/20+ crowd.

There was quirky Prince, there was even weird Prince, and there was innovative Prince.

This is none of these. This is Prince who has been fawned after by a bunch of yea-sayers.

When he worked with Wendy & Lisa, they had him listen to Stravinsky, Miles, Coltrane and the Beatles.

These people now try to get him to listen to today's dreck, and he went one step further and allows tem to produce.

Abysmal effort... so far.

Thank God for Adonis & Bathsheeba which tanks all of this.

Yeah because his father who was a Jazz musician did not expose him to shit until Wendy and Lisa came into his life.

[Edited 9/1/14 8:04am]

Yeah I don't understand why people still bother to peddle that absurd myth.

If this is what Prince wants. to appeal to the younger crowd, then I wish him the best of luck. I do have to say that it puts that "real music by real musicans" thread in a new light.

novabrkr said:

Smillan said:

Pretty weak to be honest. It sounds as if his voice is coming through a computer

His voice is coming through a computer.

But about this lyric: "The power of the breast/ is just a test/ that you'll be winning".

I was almost a victim of the "30 second vice".

I didn't care for the autotune part, but the rest is cool. It's got vibe, and sometimes that's good enough.