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Reply #180 posted 04/14/14 12:38pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Prince's new GROUNDBREAKING MEGA muziq publishing company is going 2 land him on top of Forbes list of highest paid entertainment moguls!!!!!!

Wow. How photoshopped can you get? This is really starting to get ridiculous. Act your age, said the song.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #181 posted 04/14/14 1:07pm

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Se7en said:

First and foremost, this has nothing to do with remasters or the upcoming release of Plectrum Electrum.

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This is a notice that his music will be available for purchase to be used in films, commercials, video games and most likely the inevitable hip-hop sampling.

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This is going to be a huge cash cow for Prince, since his music has largely been "off limits" for this kinda of usage.

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As a fan, you're going to start hearing his music a lot more - especially in commercials. There will be the expected Little Red Corvette Chevrolet commercial, guaranteed! There might also be the U Got The Look Cover Girl commercial and the Kiss Cover Girl commercial.

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It's his music to do with as he pleases, and if this new venture brings him millions upon millions, then good for him.

A market is about Offer and Demand. I don't see where the heck is the latter.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
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Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #182 posted 04/14/14 1:23pm

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bonatoc said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Prince's new GROUNDBREAKING MEGA muziq publishing company is going 2 land him on top of Forbes list of highest paid entertainment moguls!!!!!!

Wow. How photoshopped can you get? This is really starting to get ridiculous. Act your age, said the song.

Ummm.. yeah Im sure Prince is sitting behind a computer everyday photoshopping all o his photos. Because its not standard practice done with just about any celebrity whether 50 or 20.. ::sarcasm off::

Change it one more time..
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Reply #183 posted 04/14/14 1:48pm

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Well, I'll leave you to your dreamland of "standard practices", sorry if I interrupted your corporate world digestion.

But we're getting OT.

Thruth is, no one gives a shit about P anymore. He's like the funny uncle who knows a few magic tricks, he's great to invite from time to time, but by the end of the evening he's starting to annoy everyone with his manners.

"U Got The Look" for Revlon? Seriously? What dumb Madison Avenue prick would pick up the nose-pinched squeals of Camille to be associated with a million dollar advertising campaign? Can't you even get the song right? "a whole hour just to make up your face": he's making fun of the woman, man!

Everytime I hear those TV introduction speeches: "He's a Legend! He's a multiplatinum Genius!", it makes me think of Greta Garbo. Yeah, she had some respect for her Glory Days. But in the end no one would want her back on a movie set, everyone was fed up.

And so it is with his latest announcement: "I'm my own Alpha and Omega now".

Yup.

I'll indeed leave you to your "standard" world, where no food gets unprocessed, where Photoshop reigns supreme, and where rare talent gets wasted in smoke and mirrors.


[Edited 4/14/14 13:56pm]

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #184 posted 04/14/14 3:07pm

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Thruth is, no one gives a shit about P anymore.

Nobody cares anymore about Prince anymore, yet YOU are here you are arguing about Prince on a fan site. lol Contradict your self much?

And just about every photo used for promotional purposes is retouched at some level or another. To think otherwise is to be delusional.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #185 posted 04/14/14 5:28pm

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I think he's saying his popularity has seriously diminished.

There r 2 people somewhere on the Internets at this very moment participating in a forum and arguing about Kenny loggins next move.


And seriously...no one gives a shit about Mr Loggins besides his family, friends and maaaaybe extended family.
[Edited 4/14/14 17:32pm]
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Reply #186 posted 04/14/14 6:28pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

I think he's saying his popularity has seriously diminished. There r 2 people somewhere on the Internets at this very moment participating in a forum and arguing about Kenny loggins next move. And seriously...no one gives a shit about Mr Loggins besides his family, friends and maaaaybe extended family. [Edited 4/14/14 17:32pm]

I agree wholeheartedly with your first statement.. but Prince could fart and Billboard, Rolling Stone, Spin, Vibe and any other music outlet will still write a story about it. So obviously the industry and a great deal of the public still cares about him in some regard or another. If Kenny Loggins brought his publishing inhouse Im pretty sure not even his 5 fans would have heard about it.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #187 posted 04/14/14 6:52pm

thedoorkeeper

why you so mean to Kenny Loggins??

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Reply #188 posted 04/14/14 7:09pm

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thedoorkeeper said:

why you so mean to Kenny Loggins??


I did type but deleted Michael McDonald...thought of Michael Bolton but remember the Katy Perry bit.


I was just making a point that just cuz someone's in a web sight talking/debating/arguing about someone's goings-on doesn't indicate people give a shit about them. Those two do...but not generally.

I bring up prince to my friends family and acquaintances, and not many, if any...give a shit.

We find a some news cuz we're, as fan(addicts)[get it fanatics...fan-addicts...he he,lol],are looking for a lot of news. Most give little regard to the little amount of new that encounter by chance.

In feel its easy for people to project the impact of out little fanworld onto the impact outside our fanworld.
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Reply #189 posted 04/14/14 7:55pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

thedoorkeeper said:

why you so mean to Kenny Loggins??

I did type but deleted Michael McDonald...thought of Michael Bolton but remember the Katy Perry bit. I was just making a point that just cuz someone's in a web sight talking/debating/arguing about someone's goings-on doesn't indicate people give a shit about them. Those two do...but not generally. I bring up prince to my friends family and acquaintances, and not many, if any...give a shit. We find a some news cuz we're, as fan(addicts)[get it fanatics...fan-addicts...he he,lol],are looking for a lot of news. Most give little regard to the little amount of new that encounter by chance. In feel its easy for people to project the impact of out little fanworld onto the impact outside our fanworld. [Edited 4/14/14 19:10pm]

yeah u're right..

Change it one more time..
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Reply #190 posted 04/14/14 8:55pm

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lezama said:

BobGeorge909 said:

I think he's saying his popularity has seriously diminished. There r 2 people somewhere on the Internets at this very moment participating in a forum and arguing about Kenny loggins next move. And seriously...no one gives a shit about Mr Loggins besides his family, friends and maaaaybe extended family. [Edited 4/14/14 17:32pm]

I agree wholeheartedly with your first statement.. but Prince could fart and Billboard, Rolling Stone, Spin, Vibe and any other music outlet will still write a story about it. So obviously the industry and a great deal of the public still cares about him in some regard or another. If Kenny Loggins brought his publishing inhouse Im pretty sure not even his 5 fans would have heard about it.

I never read a story about prince's farts. So are you saying that prince doesn't have enough gas? That'd give the lyrics to Little Red Corvette a totally different meaning. Hmmm...

[Edited 4/14/14 20:56pm]

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Reply #191 posted 04/14/14 10:31pm

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lezama said:



BobGeorge909 said:


thedoorkeeper said:

why you so mean to Kenny Loggins??



I did type but deleted Michael McDonald...thought of Michael Bolton but remember the Katy Perry bit. I was just making a point that just cuz someone's in a web sight talking/debating/arguing about someone's goings-on doesn't indicate people give a shit about them. Those two do...but not generally. I bring up prince to my friends family and acquaintances, and not many, if any...give a shit. We find a some news cuz we're, as fan(addicts)[get it fanatics...fan-addicts...he he,lol],are looking for a lot of news. Most give little regard to the little amount of new that encounter by chance. In feel its easy for people to project the impact of out little fanworld onto the impact outside our fanworld. [Edited 4/14/14 19:10pm]


yeah u're right..





falloff good stuff
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Reply #192 posted 04/15/14 1:40am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

So the Musicology year that wasn't successful?

Not relevant.

His decision to make Purple Rain the movie that wasn't big business sense?

Bankrolled by WB, and not relevant.

Doing the superbowl?

Not relevant.

His Vegas residency,

Not relevant.

Opening his own recording studio complex,

The one that isn't open to other artists anymore because it wasn't profitable? The one where Prince demanded lower taxes for?

Leaving warners going independent?

That's a success?

What other 80's black superstar is still making millions and recording and performing consistently?

What odd restrictions. And again: not relevant.

He is still at the top of his game.

Ah, so that's why record companies are lining up around the block to work with him, and why so many of his post-WB songs have been covered over and over again after becomign huge hits. Oh wait, none of that happened.

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Reply #193 posted 04/15/14 1:46am

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Praxis said:

if one supports independent musicians, then this latest step for Prince is revolutionary.

Like I said, the likes of Fugazi have done this since the 1980s. Nothing revolutionary about this.

artists should profit to the max for their art,

And Prince has? How about ACCESS to their art? Shouldn't fans be able to buy P's art? If you agree, please inform me where I can purchase The Truth. Or The Chocolate Invasion. Note that you cannot refer to second-hand shops, since these do not allow artists to profit from the sales of their works.

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Reply #194 posted 04/15/14 1:57am

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lezama said:

I agree wholeheartedly with your first statement.. but Prince could fart and Billboard, Rolling Stone, Spin, Vibe and any other music outlet will still write a story about it. So obviously the industry and a great deal of the public still cares about him in some regard or another. If Kenny Loggins brought his publishing inhouse Im pretty sure not even his 5 fans would have heard about it.

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And you think Joe Schmoe has heard about this? This is a press release reported on by a website who spends all day doing so. NOBODY CARES. Gotta love famz who think this was front page news in all of the entertainment media.

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The only thing this does is make it harder for the industry to find him. Instead of contacting one of the major publishing houses they now have to add NPG MP to their address book and deal with whatever rinky-dink operation that will turn out to be whenever someone requires some info on using a P track.

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This move doesn't make sense when there's demand because the costs of running your own organisation dealing with all those requests far outweighs the costs of having someone else deal with them; and it doesn't make sense when demand is low because that's the time said organisation needs to work pro-actively and actually pimp your shit to others.

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I just love the opinions of famz who think Warner Chappell and Universal were ripping P off by daring to take a fee whenever they handled his licensing. FYI 50% of a lot is still a lot, 100% of nothing is still nothing.

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Reply #195 posted 04/15/14 4:55am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Stop with this insulting Prince's business sense! Its getting old & uncalled for. STOP IT!!!!

To anyone (like myself) who is a "very" long time fan, it's well known that he has very little (if any) business sense.

...and Steve Jobs wasn't that great a guitarist/ singer, etc. So what?

Admitedly, if Prince was to float himself on the stock markets I wouldn't be first to subscribe to the IPO but it's hardly important.

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Reply #196 posted 04/15/14 4:59am

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BartVanHemelen said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

So the Musicology year that wasn't successful?

Not relevant.

What odd restrictions. And again: not relevant.

He is still at the top of his game.

Ah, so that's why record companies are lining up around the block to work with him, and why so many of his post-WB songs have been covered over and over again after becomign huge hits. Oh wait, none of that happened.

Not relevant because they don't fit into your, rather one dimensional, take on Prince's career (that you don't care about)?

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Reply #197 posted 04/15/14 9:01am

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lezama said:

I agree wholeheartedly with your first statement.. but Prince could fart and Billboard, Rolling Stone, Spin, Vibe and any other music outlet will still write a story about it. So obviously the industry and a great deal of the public still cares about him in some regard or another. If Kenny Loggins brought his publishing inhouse Im pretty sure not even his 5 fans would have heard about it.

.

And you think Joe Schmoe has heard about this? This is a press release reported on by a website who spends all day doing so. NOBODY CARES. Gotta love famz who think this was front page news in all of the entertainment media.

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The only thing this does is make it harder for the industry to find him. Instead of contacting one of the major publishing houses they now have to add NPG MP to their address book and deal with whatever rinky-dink operation that will turn out to be whenever someone requires some info on using a P track.

.

This move doesn't make sense when there's demand because the costs of running your own organisation dealing with all those requests far outweighs the costs of having someone else deal with them; and it doesn't make sense when demand is low because that's the time said organisation needs to work pro-actively and actually pimp your shit to others.

.

I just love the opinions of famz who think Warner Chappell and Universal were ripping P off by daring to take a fee whenever they handled his licensing. FYI 50% of a lot is still a lot, 100% of nothing is still nothing.

Dude, I already agreed with BobGeorge, take a chill pill. And I honestly don't care how it turns out for Prince tbh, I just find following his career interesting. Like him or hate him, compared to most of the artists that I listen to his life is much more interesting than all of them combined. If only for how unpredictable, contradictory and unique (or strange) he is.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #198 posted 04/15/14 9:55am

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Whether or not this is directly related to the publishing news, I heard a radio commercial yesterday that featured Prince music.

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It was for some sort of sex or sex-enhancing product, but the background music was The Greatest Romance Ever Sold - The Adam & Eve Remix (music only, no vocals).

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Reply #199 posted 04/15/14 10:50am

KCOOLMUZIQ

BartVanHemelen said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

So the Musicology year that wasn't successful?

Not relevant.

Why not? Its a decision he made. He was on every single music video channel. It was actually his best year since "Purple Rain"! It was the most earnings he ever earned as an independent artist and in his career in one year.

His decision to make Purple Rain the movie that wasn't big business sense?

Bankrolled by WB, and not relevant.

How can making the most successful musical by an artist in history be not revelant? Prince wanted to make a movie. He made it happen whether bankedrolled by WB or not. It was his idea and it WORKED.

Doing the superbowl?

Not relevant.

His superbowl performance is constantly voted the top superbowl by an artist of all time. RELEVANT!

His Vegas residency,

Not relevant.

Every major artist & athlete attended his Vegas residency. Even the late MJ. RELEVANT!

Opening his own recording studio complex,

The one that isn't open to other artists anymore because it wasn't profitable? The one where Prince demanded lower taxestaxes for?

What does that have to do with Prince coming up with the idea of opening up the studio? It was opened originally for his private playground. Many artist, major film productions and a large variety of tv commercials were shot there. Even billionaire Oprah's Harpo Studios didn't get that much business as Paisley Park Studios did and is now being sold. REVELANT!

Leaving warners going independent?

That's a success?

Yes it is! Prince's emancipation from wB is a blueprint for every independent artist out today and made his then lawyer Londell Mcmillan in high demand. Even MJ hired him afterwards.

What other 80's black superstar is still making millions and recording and performing consistently?

What odd restrictions. And again: not relevant.

Its not odd its a fact! Prince has always been in high demand since the 80's and has gotten MILLIONS upfront just from one performance.

He is still at the top of his game.

Ah, so that's why record companies are lining up around the block to work with him, and why so many of his post-WB songs have been covered over and over again after becomign huge hits. Oh wait, none of that happened.

What odd restrictions. And again: not relevant.

Prince has already done one off deals with every major record company since leaving WB. Just did another one a few weeks ago.

With Prince taking control of his new NPGMusicpublishing company that may change soon of what U hear out of his VAST CATALOG of muziq. He is #WINNING

Another big year of major moves in the muziq industry for Prince. Eye'm proud of him! biggrin

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #200 posted 04/15/14 4:17pm

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You'd have to be absolutely bonkers to think that Prince doesn't have a very solid plan and reasons behind doing this. So I wait with anticipation and wish him luck in this venture.

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Reply #201 posted 04/15/14 9:34pm

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Militant said:

You'd have to be absolutely bonkers to think that Prince doesn't have a very solid plan and reasons behind doing this.

Yes, we are bonkers by that definition.

An idea he does have, for sure.

He wants control. Cut out the middlemen. Maybe even earn some cash.

But a plan OTOH is something diffferent.

Best that could happen is that he hires a group of skilled people to execute a well described task.

But I doubt that will happen.

So I wait with anticipation and wish him luck in this venture.

Sure. Sure.

But:

How many people experienced with collecting publising fees does the US have?

How many would be available for a job offer by mr Prince?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #202 posted 04/16/14 3:26pm

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Gohi said:

This feels gross.


lol

Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #203 posted 04/16/14 4:46pm

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udo said:



Militant said:


You'd have to be absolutely bonkers to think that Prince doesn't have a very solid plan and reasons behind doing this.




Yes, we are bonkers by that definition.


An idea he does have, for sure.


He wants control. Cut out the middlemen. Maybe even earn some cash.


But a plan OTOH is something diffferent.


Best that could happen is that he hires a group of skilled people to execute a well described task.


But I doubt that will happen.




So I wait with anticipation and wish him luck in this venture.




Sure. Sure.


But:


How many people experienced with collecting publising fees does the US have?


How many would be available for a job offer by mr Prince?


Our country may behave foolishly...but it doesn't mean we have nothing but fools populating it.

There's many a jobless degree holders who are BEGGING for employment...internships even. The huge changes in the music industry creates openings for new, fresh minds in the field, able to devise new, fresh, methods for revenue. Record sales are a shrinking source. Its literally insane to sell and sell and sell records expecting the same results. Ch-ch-ch-changes!
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Reply #204 posted 04/16/14 8:21pm

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Militant said:

You'd have to be absolutely bonkers to think that Prince doesn't have a very solid plan and reasons behind doing this. So I wait with anticipation and wish him luck in this venture.

You'd have to be absolutely bonkers to think that any of Prince's plans and reasons were based in reality and had any chance for success.

I mean, really. You have been paying attention for the past 20 years, haven't you?

"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #205 posted 04/16/14 8:43pm

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so basically ... prince sold out! .. now we are gonna hear his songs on shitty tv shows .. crappy hollywood garbage movies and crappy car comercials .. yay rolleyes



I don't see this as having comprimised Queens art.

Some call it selling out...

I call it making money from shit u done did.


Some 15 y/o hears this commercial while making a car whish list and is inspired. Unlike the occasions he heard its terrible renditions by marching bands at his high schools football games. Takes note and downloads it at iTunes at his next visit. He puts it on his 'first solo drive' playlist.

They've sold out with the very first contract or YouTube view or soundscan tick. The damn point of making records is to sell them...if the store 'sells out' of em ure fuckin lucky.


Arts free and all...I get it....UNTILL ITS SOLD. which prince has HAPPILY been doing since before '78. And been on the prowl for new inventive ways to sell it.

Sell out...lol...IF URE FUCKIN LUCKY.
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Reply #206 posted 04/17/14 10:45am

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WisdomNLove said:

love2thenines2003 said:

Interresting ONLY 4 Prince = $$$$$....not for fans !!!

well yes and no,

Yes Prince/NPG Publishing will make a load of $$$ off the syncs, but syncs help brake new artists and help with pitching songs to radio stations. Although many of these songs wont be "new" and he isnt a new artist, these syncs could open up Prince to an all new fanbase

I've discovered 2 artists I like alot by Shazamming songs off a commercial and during a movie I didnt know of the artist or the song before hearing it on the tv/screen.

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Straight TRUTH, right there!

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #207 posted 04/18/14 8:48am

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This should be a very interesting year. A lot of possibilities.


Some may include:

1. Warners releases the PR re-master, and it doesn't sell as well as Prince had hoped. He then blames them, loses interest in new material being released, and writes slave on his face.

2. After 8 or 9 months wating for the PR re-master, a press release announces Prince signing a major deal with Clive Davis at Arista. Being that Davis long ago left, things get sort of complicated from there, leaving fans bewildered. Of course, this is solved when 8 months later a Universal deal is announced.

3. Purple Rain, the New Master is released with cameos from Larry G., Rosie Gaines, and Doug E. Fresh with re-worked versions of Darlin Nikki to reflect his current religious beliefs. For example, "masturabating with a magazine" becomes "witnessing with a watchtower," etc. The Universe then implodes soon after.

Otherwise, this sounds like 2014 and so on might, just might, with some small miracles, see the release of new material in addition to remasters, regardless of the quality or current state of the songs. I'm actually a bit excited.

มีเพียงความว่างเปล่า rose 只有空虚 rose Dim ond gwacter rose 만 공허함이있다 rose 唯一の虚しさがあります wilted There is only the void.
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Reply #208 posted 04/18/14 8:50am

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errant said:

Militant said:

You'd have to be absolutely bonkers to think that Prince doesn't have a very solid plan and reasons behind doing this. So I wait with anticipation and wish him luck in this venture.

You'd have to be absolutely bonkers to think that any of Prince's plans and reasons were based in reality and had any chance for success.

I mean, really. You have been paying attention for the past 20 years, haven't you?

I think after lotusfailure, one would have to be really faithful to think Prince has a plan.... ANY plan. lol

มีเพียงความว่างเปล่า rose 只有空虚 rose Dim ond gwacter rose 만 공허함이있다 rose 唯一の虚しさがあります wilted There is only the void.
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Reply #209 posted 04/18/14 4:54pm

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Blixical said:

errant said:

You'd have to be absolutely bonkers to think that any of Prince's plans and reasons were based in reality and had any chance for success.

I mean, really. You have been paying attention for the past 20 years, haven't you?

I think after lotusfailure, one would have to be really faithful to think Prince has a plan.... ANY plan. lol

Do you know fell silly now after today's news??? Stop second guessing the man who has been around in the music industry for over 30 years.

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