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Reply #270 posted 07/28/13 11:25am

lwr001

Styles said:

lwr001 said: KCOOLMUZIQ said:

[Snip - luv4u] is that what its really called..thanks for enlightening me..lol all of this nonsense is sheer stupidity....

Most fun i had on a sunday since i use to knock off the girls at my church in the basement

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Reply #271 posted 07/28/13 11:31am

SpiritOtter

Caroke said:

SpiritOtter said:

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A timely response from a professional team could read along the lines, "Dear All, As some of you may be aware, Prince is attempting to create a fan experience with the use of the Livestream service, which he is excited to share with you. Alongside using other social media outlets, we are hoping to create a sense of fun and reward for those of you wish to follow Prince's artistic journey this year. We are aware that a member of the fan community was recently approached for potentially inappropriate copyright use. Unfortunately, the manner in which this message was delivered was informal and we would like to apologise for any negative effects of this method of communication. Clearly, the issue of ownership is an important one to Prince, as he has consistently fought for his artistic rights. Please do bear with us, as we try to foster a rewarding experience for fans, whilst also ensuring that Prince's copyright remains protected. We would like to hear your views, so please do send us your opinions at info@3rdeyegirl.com."

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If only...

[Edited 7/28/13 10:38am]

Caroke,

It took me about one minute to write that, surely it cannot be that difficult for Prince's PR team to do likewise, even if the tone / conclusion is different to my example above?

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Reply #272 posted 07/28/13 11:42am

Styles

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from the person who started the thread...nice... cool
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Reply #273 posted 07/28/13 11:53am

lwr001

Styles said:

from the person who started the thread...nice... cool

thank you

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Reply #274 posted 07/28/13 12:05pm

terrig

hmmm...since Prince is not even the least bit hesitant about using lawyers when/where he should...this is small immature, stupid potatoes and IS something stupid a 20-something used ti manipulating a message board convo would do.

I'm not so ready to assign it to Princes direction, but it totally smells like a teenager-esque botched 'suck-up to the boss' job...either that or a 'my check was late - take THAT mr boss-man' lololol



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Reply #275 posted 07/28/13 12:20pm

NikkiDarling

Prince you make yourself so hard to love!

I am a Prince Fan and always will be because I love his music. Well, I love his music up until a point and then he kind of loses me, so I continue to listed to the old stuff. I don't know Serpan but I do follow him and I have found his tweets helpful. I don't sit up all night to watch the spreecast and I actually find them quite boring. So, I like to get the nuggest. I guess if 3EG summed it up maybe he wouldn't. I do feel that the chat was immature and also it did go into cyberbullying. I know some people say get over it, but bullying shouldn be taken serious. You never know where a person is at. Serpan's intentions seemed to be in the right place.

Prince do you really have time to be the internet police? Does it really bother you that much? When it is all said and done do you want your legacy to be that you made sure nobody posted something without your authority or do you want it to be that you were a great musician.

I know you like the young people around you, but someone has to be the voice or reason in the camp. You can tell whoever was typing was an immature female probably sitting right next to you translating your thoughts. You shouldn't be OK with someone making your legacy look bad. I don't care how pretty they are.

I hope you read all of these posts and you get the message. Fans just want to love you and get great music. Yes, you have been hurt in the past and it sounds like you have hurt people also. Get over it!

Since I am on my soapbox let me just say Hannah should only be the drummer for 3EG. NPG needs a funk drummer. She is in her lane on 3EG and she is really great there. Can we please tell her husband Josh to stop jumping around and let her get her shine in the group. It isn't 3EG and a husband on cowbell? I also hate to say his mixes aren't good. They are amatuer at best, but I applaud you for giving him a chance but whatever his day job he should focus on it.

Finally, talk to your team!!! Leaders are able to talk to their team not run information to a 22 year old. How do you think that makes a group of grown people feel? You walked around with Slave on your face and fought for your rights, but it seems you are going hard to take away the rights of others. Knock it OFF.

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Reply #276 posted 07/28/13 12:22pm

NikkiDarling

Rorywan said:

Anyone who thinks that wasn't Prince being a dick, doesn't know Prince.

He is a control freak, do you really think he would allow one of his latest finger puppets (3EG)

to talk on his behalf about copyright and his symbol?

No way. They have no say/right/voice in the Prince camp. It's 100% him.

And ignore this "prince wasn't around that night" BS. He was either typing those passive agrresive

statements himself or directly dictating what was to be said, either way, same result. They had obviously a little hit list of topics ready to hit Serpan with. They had trolled through his various pages looking for things to nitpick, to put him down.

Talk about love and humanity all you want Prince. Actions speak louder than words.

And this is out there for all to see. It's saddening to see one of your musical heroes acting like a complete prick. sad

You are so on point! Prince was sitting right there. No DOUBT about it.

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Reply #277 posted 07/28/13 12:25pm

GoldenParachut
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KCOOLMUZIQ said:



madison said:


K cool. What do u have to say for urself now .. And what would prince think of u. And u attack other people

Prince never ordered me to take it down! If he did! Eye would do it gladly with no questions asked. Not sit there and argue with him about it! Same with the moderators here. Eye know what Eye photoshoped somebody likes it! They are always stolen and put up on other sites like Facebook.




I didn't attack anyone! Eye'm just suggesting that this is way overboard. He was asked to take it down. Move on! Don't protest Prince! Because he is protecting his image. U can say whatever U want about me. Eye don't care! But U will not attack Prince and get away with it.



You are so creepy.
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Reply #278 posted 07/28/13 12:25pm

NikkiDarling

lwr001 said:

1725topp said:

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Yes, but the problem is that you want respect for you and yours, but you can't seem to respect Prince's wishes that he doesn't want our help to promote or “repurpose” anything. Secondly, y'all are acting like this deal with Sepan is a one-time in a vacuum thing. It seems to me, based on the chat, that Prince is viewing this as part of his ongoing issue of fans overstepping their bounds when it comes to his imaging and promotion. See, you are saying to Prince "Dude, if you want respect, you must give it to others." I'm saying to y'all that it goes both ways. That's why I keep saying that if Prince doesn't want to have the same relationship with his fans that other artists want to have with his friends, then just find somebody who wants to have the same relationship that you do. It's that simple. But, it seems, based on the chat, that Prince is viewing this as another issue in a long line of fans overstepping their bounds. So, again, if you want me to respect your position you must respect somebody else's position. Ultimately, I don't care how he runs his business. I'm not that close to him. I have been able to gain access to the art. That's enough for me.

What strikes me as odd the most is that Serp and Prince's band members engaged each other in various posts also members of his mgmt team "Kiran Sharma" to be exact...Very odd and strange

[Snip - luv4u]

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Reply #279 posted 07/28/13 12:31pm

Gohi

KCOOLMUZIQ said:



lwr001 said:




1725topp said:



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Yes, but the problem is that you want respect for you and yours, but you can't seem to respect Prince's wishes that he doesn't want our help to promote or “repurpose” anything. Secondly, y'all are acting like this deal with Sepan is a one-time in a vacuum thing. It seems to me, based on the chat, that Prince is viewing this as part of his ongoing issue of fans overstepping their bounds when it comes to his imaging and promotion. See, you are saying to Prince "Dude, if you want respect, you must give it to others." I'm saying to y'all that it goes both ways. That's why I keep saying that if Prince doesn't want to have the same relationship with his fans that other artists want to have with his friends, then just find somebody who wants to have the same relationship that you do. It's that simple. But, it seems, based on the chat, that Prince is viewing this as another issue in a long line of fans overstepping their bounds. So, again, if you want me to respect your position you must respect somebody else's position. Ultimately, I don't care how he runs his business. I'm not that close to him. I have been able to gain access to the art. That's enough for me.






What strikes me as odd the most is that Serp and Prince's band members engaged each other in various posts also members of his mgmt team "Kiran Sharma" to be exact...Very odd and strange



[Snip - luv4u]


[Snip - luv4u] , huh? What the fuck is wrong with you? Prince could do just about anything and you would support him. God help you.
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Reply #280 posted 07/28/13 12:41pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

GoldenParachute said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Prince never ordered me to take it down! If he did! Eye would do it gladly with no questions asked. Not sit there and argue with him about it! Same with the moderators here. Eye know what Eye photoshoped somebody likes it! They are always stolen and put up on other sites like Facebook.


I didn't attack anyone! Eye'm just suggesting that this is way overboard. He was asked to take it down. Move on! Don't protest Prince! Because he is protecting his image. U can say whatever U want about me. Eye don't care! But U will not attack Prince and get away with it.

You are so creepy.

Thank U wink

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #281 posted 07/28/13 12:41pm

AFine1

1725topp said:


All I can tell you is that those of us who are only worried when the next album, television appearance, or tour will occur and not worried about being a mouth piece for or some member of Prince's inner circle have never been burned or offended in this way.

I'm afraid a lot of us will miss these great happenings without someone doing what Serpan does. The info simply does not get out there without it.
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Reply #282 posted 07/28/13 12:48pm

Soulstar77A

Gohi said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

[Snip - luv4u]

[Snip - luv4u], huh? What the fuck is wrong with you? Prince could do just about anything and you would support him. God help you.

God probably cant help him, only his cult-leading guru prince can do so wink

"ohYeeeeeah" said: I'm a massive Bowie fan. Even on Scary Monsters, I always skip Fame ...
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Reply #283 posted 07/28/13 12:51pm

GoldenParachut
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1725topp said:



BobGeorge909 said:


GoldenParachute said:
Are you daft? Youre repeating yourself as if its difficult to understand that you think this is a comparison to "touching a hot stove", after being told not to touch it yet you fail to give any example of what youre talking about. It isnt emotional, its logical. Youre argument is that fans were asked to conduct ourselves a certain way, so what the hell are you talking about? What is the crime? Stop repeating yourself because youre not answering the question. Make others understand your point without giving empty and irrelevant metaphors or sign off.

U want evidence that the sun is gonna rise tomorrow too?

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He also needs evidence that urine doesn't taste like lemonade and that summer always follows spring.


You both have an IQ of a fly. I asked for you to explain why you think Serpan was wrong. I apologize if this was as challenging to you as being a solar astronomer, testing urodynamics and knowing meteorology. Forgive me for thinking you were not retarded. How ironic to call those who are against this behavior, emotional. Quite fitting really since also the point of the offense has flown right over your guys' heads.

Saying that it was just expected because of his known behavior is a bs argument. If you are going to apply the rule to one, apply it to all. Im someone who has advocated for prince many times on this site, you never really see me bashing prince so for me to be against this, it is an etiquette issue. It could be true that prince is right for protecting his image. Ok. That still doesnt justify he was WRONG for how he came to handle it and when you come across like an asshole, people are a lot less likely to agree with you or oblige to your requests. He made a mistake. That should be easy to see, even for you two. The point isnt about who was wrong in the copyright issue, its about who was wring in how it was communicated.
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Reply #284 posted 07/28/13 12:54pm

lwr001

GoldenParachute said:

1725topp said:

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He also needs evidence that urine doesn't taste like lemonade and that summer always follows spring.

You both have an IQ of a fly. I asked for you to explain why you think Serpan was wrong. I apologize if this was as challenging to you as being a solar astronomer, testing urodynamics and knowing meteorology. Forgive me for thinking you were not retarded. How ironic to call those who are against this behavior, emotional. Quite fitting really since also the point of the offense has flown right over your guys' heads. Saying that it was just expected because of his known behavior is a bs argument. If you are going to apply the rule to one, apply it to all. Im someone who has advocated for prince many times on this site, you never really see me bashing prince so for me to be against this, it is an etiquette issue. It could be true that prince is right for protecting his image. Ok. That still doesnt justify he was WRONG for how he came to handle it and when you come across like an asshole, people are a lot less likely to agree with you or oblige to your requests. He made a mistake. That should be easy to see, even for you two. The point isnt about who was wrong in the copyright issue, its about who was wring in how it was communicated.

If you were a women I'd marry you.. nicely put

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Reply #285 posted 07/28/13 12:54pm

GoldenParachut
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murph said:



1725topp said:




murph said:





Sorry....But this is not one of those "Prince is not bringing it like he use to" posts...This is not the ramblings of a petty fan complaining after seeing Prince 500 times because they want to see another set-list (that's some dumb shit...lol); Nor is this yet another post about how Prince hasn't made a great album since (fill in the blank)....




This is a normal critique of how the man runs his business and treats a harmless fan....



All of this, "Just go find another artist" business when it comes to this particular fuck-up is missing the point...Not everything can be boiled down that simply...Sometimes people just want to be respected...



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Yes, but the problem is that you want respect for you and yours, but you can't seem to respect Prince's wishes that he doesn't want our help to promote or “repurpose” anything. Secondly, y'all are acting like this deal with Sepan is a one-time in a vacuum thing. It seems to me, based on the chat, that Prince is viewing this as part of his ongoing issue of fans overstepping their bounds when it comes to his imaging and promotion. See, you are saying to Prince "Dude, if you want respect, you must give it to others." I'm saying to y'all that it goes both ways. That's why I keep saying that if Prince doesn't want to have the same relationship with his fans that other artists want to have with his friends, then just find somebody who wants to have the same relationship that you do. It's that simple. But, it seems, based on the chat, that Prince is viewing this as another issue in a long line of fans overstepping their bounds. So, again, if you want me to respect your position you must respect somebody else's position. Ultimately, I don't care how he runs his business. I'm not that close to him. I have been able to gain access to the art. That's enough for me.






Goes both ways? ....Man...U got to chill with this shit...lol....Serpan is a stand-up guy...He wasn't told a lot of times to do anything....In fact, the story has been twisted around so much that some Prince fans are falling for the bait....They asked him to take down some photos from a gig, which he did....Then they asked him to not use the Prince symbol, which he quickly complied, with ho disrespect or anger....





But this^^^^has nothing to do with being bullied into not tweeting out live stream...




U see the difference?




It's not about caring how Prince runs his business or what type of drawers he wears....



It's just some Respect 101 shit....Trust me....save your above it all posts when folks on the Org truly show their STAN side by making posts about how Prince is no longer relevant (I think you are better needed in that thread....)


Dude, thank you!!! He dont get it!!
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Reply #286 posted 07/28/13 12:54pm

SchlomoThaHomo

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Murph you are completely right on with all of your comments, especially about just wanting to be respected, which should really just be a given after you've supported an artist and contributed to making them rich. Prince has no defense here whatsoever.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #287 posted 07/28/13 12:56pm

NikkiDarling

lwr001 said:

NikkiDarling said:

[Snip - luv4u]

She who says she is his manager for Prince to this day, who was with hm in Montreuax, who manages King for him and Misty

https://twitter.com/KIKITkiran

[Edited 7/28/13 12:35pm]

[Snip - luv4u]

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Reply #288 posted 07/28/13 12:57pm

SmiggyG

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This latest charade is nothing new. Prince is the King of hypocrisy. Love 4oneanother? Money don't matter? Freedom? Blah blah blah! Yeah right! As long as he's controlling it!

Honestly I've never seen much more than 1,000 people on Livestream when it's "live". In typical Prince fashion he claims they like just a small gathering.

As for the folks who defend his childlike actions, quit living in fear of Prince's little games. Your all afraid he will get a bug up his ass and go into seclusion or something if you don't drink the Kool aide and gush all over. Livestream thing is probably ova for him by now anyways.

He wants respect but DOES NOT respect any of his fans.

As far as I know Serpan was not posting download links, selling, or self promoting anything. He was only helping. SHAME ON HIM!

Must have made him feel "big" to tear into a fan amonst his peers.

Now that's protecting a legacy!

"Hey, I got the butta 4 ya muffin, honey.. I'm just 2 old 2 hold the knife!"
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Reply #289 posted 07/28/13 1:01pm

lwr001

NikkiDarling said:

lwr001 said:

She who says she is his manager for Prince to this day, who was with hm in Montreuax, who manages King for him and Misty

https://twitter.com/KIKITkiran

[Edited 7/28/13 12:35pm]

[Snip - luv4u]

your reply makes no sense

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Reply #290 posted 07/28/13 1:07pm

SpiritOtter

Furthermore to your points, GoldenParachute...

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The entire irony of the matter is that not only is the alleged copyright issue highly QUESTIONABLE (it is not as 3rdEyeGirl states a simple matter of fact), the 3rdEyeGirl behaviour was clearly beyond reprehensible. I may be wrong, but the individuals who are defending the bully-like BEHAVIOUR are in quite the minority, as they should be.

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Whoever it was that acted in that repugnant manner behind the mantle of 3rdEyeGirl, whilst appearing to smugly ACT as if they were beyond rapproach, should have been schooled in better manners by their parents. Without such schooling, it would appear the adult world is quite unequivocally putting that snide behaviour in its rightful place.

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Reply #291 posted 07/28/13 1:12pm

lwr001

SpiritOtter said:

Furthermore to your points, GoldenParachute...

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The entire irony of the matter is that not only is the alleged copyright issue highly QUESTIONABLE (it is not as 3rdEyeGirl states a simple matter of fact), the 3rdEyeGirl behaviour was clearly beyond reprehensible. I may be wrong, but the individuals who are defending the bully-like BEHAVIOUR are in quite the minority, as they should be.

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Whoever it was that acted in that repugnant manner behind the mantle of 3rdEyeGirl, whilst appearing to smugly ACT as if they were beyond rapproach, should have been schooled in better manners by their parents. Without such schooling, it would appear the adult world is quite unequivocally putting that snide behaviour in its rightful place.

you are right, 3EG arguments/requests are based on more of a visceral, emotional level and not grounded in the law.

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Reply #292 posted 07/28/13 1:14pm

SpiritOtter

Not that I necessarily believe in daily horoscopes, but Serpan99 has just tweeted the following horoscope for Gemini. I wonder who he might be referring to...

Saturday, July 27, 2013 - You're ready to swing into action today since you think you can take on whatever or whoever is in your way, no matter what the cost. Keep in mind that the obstacles you face are actually a reality check to test your emotional strength. It's admirable to fight for your beliefs, but choose your battles very carefully. Save a little extra energy for when you need it, since you are inclined to confrontation now. However, a heart-to-heart conversation might be all that's required to clear the air.

https://twitter.com/serpa...80/photo/1

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Reply #293 posted 07/28/13 1:14pm

NikkiDarling

lwr001 said:

NikkiDarling said:

[Snip - luv4u]

your reply makes no sense

[Snip - luv4u]

As the rules state:

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Reply #294 posted 07/28/13 1:19pm

lwr001

NikkiDarling said:

lwr001 said:

your reply makes no sense

[Snip - luv4u]

Then why isnt he attacking her instead of Serpan? That is the question...she stole frpm hom , your words, treated band members as second class citizens etc..why not attack her for her disengeniousness?

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Reply #295 posted 07/28/13 1:22pm

SpiritOtter

Nikki,

With all due respect, those are serious and potentially libellous comments you are making. I would suggest you either substantiate your comments with hard evidence or your conclusions are baseless and nothing more than hearsay.

Either way, I cannot imagine Ben, at Org HQ, would want to needlessly create a playground that could be seen to endorse such defamatory accusations, especially without evidence.

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Reply #296 posted 07/28/13 1:23pm

GoldenParachut
e

lwr001 said:



GoldenParachute said:


1725topp said:


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He also needs evidence that urine doesn't taste like lemonade and that summer always follows spring.



You both have an IQ of a fly. I asked for you to explain why you think Serpan was wrong. I apologize if this was as challenging to you as being a solar astronomer, testing urodynamics and knowing meteorology. Forgive me for thinking you were not retarded. How ironic to call those who are against this behavior, emotional. Quite fitting really since also the point of the offense has flown right over your guys' heads. Saying that it was just expected because of his known behavior is a bs argument. If you are going to apply the rule to one, apply it to all. Im someone who has advocated for prince many times on this site, you never really see me bashing prince so for me to be against this, it is an etiquette issue. It could be true that prince is right for protecting his image. Ok. That still doesnt justify he was WRONG for how he came to handle it and when you come across like an asshole, people are a lot less likely to agree with you or oblige to your requests. He made a mistake. That should be easy to see, even for you two. The point isnt about who was wrong in the copyright issue, its about who was wring in how it was communicated.


If you were a women I'd marry you.. nicely put


batting eyes lol
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Reply #297 posted 07/28/13 1:24pm

MacDaddy

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Reply #298 posted 07/28/13 1:26pm

GoldenParachut
e

SpiritOtter said:

Nikki,



With all due respect, those are serious and potentially libellous comments you are making. I would suggest you either substantiate your comments with hard evidence or your conclusions are baseless and nothing more than hearsay.



Either way, I cannot imagine Ben, at Org HQ, would want to needlessly create a playground that could be seen to endorse such defamatory accusations, especially without evidence.



I agree. Where did you hear this? Thats pretty heavy stuff. Far as I have heard, they parted ways because they had a personal relationship. Really, this is more believable, since its no surprise that whatever frmale is working with Prince, is also sleeping with him.
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Reply #299 posted 07/28/13 1:33pm

lwr001

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