IstenSzek said:

erik319 said:

I only got into 3EGTV through Serpan & reading what I missed.

They say they want a small audience, then they'll get their wish, because it's -1 from me.

i know what you mean, it was the same for me.

so now it's back to reading about it on prince's official site.

oh, wait.....

EXACTLY!!

Prince refuses to have any organized official news type presence on the internet. If it weren't for people like Serpan doing whatever it is they do to find out what's going on, and then making the effort to point it out places like here, very few of us would have ever known about 3EGTV, or many other recent Prince projects. Sure, some of this has made it to more mainstream news sources over the last several years, but often after the fact, once things are no longer available. Maybe he doesn't want amateur PR--but he doesn't seem interested in actually getting anyone to do the job for him professionally.

If Prince wants things to be private for a tiny invited few (which is what this kind of feels like, really)--just set up in the living room and invite a couple people over. But if he's gonna put it on Livestream--well. It ain't in his living room anymore. It's not like Serpan was telling "Hey, let's go stand on the lawn and look in Prince's windows."

PaisleyRose said:

I don't have all the info on what went down, but I think the intention of 3EG was one of concern for Serpan and not one of malice. I saw Serpan type in livestream chat one day that he was not sleeping very much because he spent so much time there. And Yes, I also would check Serpans' pages for up-to-date Prince/3EG info after I had been away for days or longer. (Thank-you Serpan! ) But I'd rather do my own homework and know that Serpan is out enjoying life beyond Prince (at least a little more often than he was). I know most of us can't stay away for long, but it is good to take a breather, even a very brief one depending on the buzz

Ah....so it seems some of the fans are now riding the whole Serpan-is-a-stalker fan bus...lol

Some of y'all are wild....Ha!

BobGeorge909 said:

...But its a sellers market here...aint it. I want what prince is selling more than what serpan is tweetng

If not for Serpan and a few other people, most of us (including me) would never have known about the livestreams. You get that, right?

SirLancelot said:

Superconductor said:

Do you really think there is just one person typing under the 3EG moniker?

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Superconductor, are you responding to me or BobGeorge909? If you're responding to me, then no, I know that there have been several people who've posted as 3EG. I was, however, referring to the person posting the night Serpan was told to remove the material from his Twitter page.

I was responding to you, BobGeorge909 and Databank although Databank's quote didn't show.

My point is there are always several people writing as 3EG during a livestream. I agree there was one person writing to Serpan. Either Prince himself or someone typing for Prince

theblueangel said:

If not for Serpan and a few other people, most of us (including me) would never have known about the livestreams. You get that, right?

Exactly. I never would have known about the livestreams otherwise. And I am certainly not going anywhere near a 3EG chatroom after reading this thread. Finally, the P/3EG defenders who are trying to paint Serpan as a crazed stalker aren't fooling me. The passive/aggressiveness displayed towards him is sad.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

1725topp said:

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Selective or feigned nativity will get you nowhere. Over the years Prince has made it clear that he is overly--often insanely--protective of his imaging, regardless to how fans feel about it. So, Prince has made it clear that anything that the thinks may come close to infringement will be attacked. That's doesn't mean that fans can't be upset if they think Prince has crossed the line, but at this juncture in history you can't be surprised. And, for me, the best thing to do is to accept that this dude is overly protective of his imaging and promotion, not engage in any use of his imaging, and just enjoy what work from him that I enjoy.

Eye have to agree with U! Even though Eye'm not participating in this "save Serpan" crap. It just needs to STOP! Prince has finally created a site 4 fans to have fun & participate in. Then here they go again! They can't wait to find something to crucify Prince & tear him apart about. EYE'M SICK OF IT!

Serpan CROSSED THE LINE! Was scolded about it & told it won't be tolerated anymore.This is Prince image & legacy, that he owns and built for almost 40 years! Obey his wishes & MOVE ON! Before Prince shuts 3EG down. We already have Dr fnb that Prince hand picked. Embrace him! Stop being so ungrateful! Serpan is not or will ever be Prince's publicty agent. Dr Fnb is the man Prince picked 4 his die hards. GET OVER IT!

Also Eye don't care if Eye'm torn to shreds here. Eye already have everything Eye want in my life,

Eye don't need any of your acceptance. Eye sleep well at night..

Nope. Let's look at the bolded sections. Prince has created a site 4 fans to have fun & participate in--yeah, sure. Prince has "created" a site (much like he created the symbol)--if you mean the Livestreams, yes, he's using a site to provide some streaming material, unpredictably, such that you have to be in front of your computer ready to go whenever he deigns to do anything--he has specifically chosen not to allow you to see it at other times by not providing the archiving option the site already has, and he's gotten all medieval on someone who did the horrible act of letting people know that something was happening on the site. Some fun--and then on a night when nothing horribly interesting was happening on the livestream, just to spice up the fun, the Prince-surrogate (if not Prince himself) decides to provide the entertaining spectacle of Serpan getting, as you put it "scolded" for his misbehavior. Scolded? Seriously--is Prince Serpan's mama? You don't scold another adult, no matter what you think about them. But you're right--that's almost exactly what happened. And that's a lot of what's wrong with what happened. It was completely inappropriate.

(If you mean the 3rdEye store site--yeah, he's had things like that before. Ooh--a store. How earthshattering. Now, if only he could put even a tiny bit of that "legacy" out there so people could buy it there. The symbol and some photos from the last year or two aren't his "Legacy". His legacy is 40 years of music and videos that he actively works to prevent people from having access to in decent legal ways. Go, Prince!)

You're right that Serpan isn't Prince's publicity agent--but he never pretended to be. He was a fan, who, when Prince did something interesting for other fans, committed the terrible crime of saying "Hey, guys! Check this out--Prince is doing something cool!" Goodness--how dare he? He's lucky they didn't pull out his tongue and poke out his eyes, isn't he?

So, Prince handpicked Dr. Funkenberry? For what, exactly? Is he Prince's press agent? If so, he's a pretty poor one, and he should really concentrate on improving his skills instead of his general bloggy activities. Or is he just a fan that Prince is deciding to use in some unofficial way for a few months and then turn on arbitrarily without warning? Depends--do you think Prince was really upset with Dr. F. putting up that Dance Electric 12-inch a while back? Or some other times when he tweeted things and then was told to kill the tweets? Will that be part of what Prince drags up when it's all over? I certainly hope not--that could turn ugly. But if he is handpicked as Prince's press agent now, I hope he puts him to better use.

The copyright issues? Well, you seem to recognize that they're just a ruse, since you didn't bring them up. But be aware that they are always there, and Prince will use the smallest thing to push a fight when he decides to. Make sure you don't change your avatar, which very cleverly uses the Rude Boy pin that we all associate with Prince, but that he took from someone else, so he can't sue you (or threaten to sue you). Smart move.

Please roll your eyes at me.

BobGeorge909 said:

SirLancelot said:

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Someone in the chat said something to the effect of if 3EG was Prince and she met him, she'd jump on him and rape him. 3EG's response was "Ew." Does that really sound like Prince?

Yeah

Agreed, to me that sounds exactly like Prince. And he probably put a towel over his head while he typed it.

1725topp said:

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Who is defending "bully-like behavior"? Show me one post where someone said, "I like the tone or technique they/Prince used to check Serpan". You can't because no one has said this. My point is that if you know a person is an ass and you do those things that have, in the past, caused that person to be an ass, then you can't be surprised when he acts like an ass.

And I will repeat my point, which is that I don't think many of us on here are all that surprised...but just because someone has a history of acting like a dick doesn't mean that they shouldn't be called on it.

Nothing surprising here, really. Prince treats his fans like second class citizens and his fans don't like it.

Sad, but not surprising.

tricky99 said:

1725topp said:

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You do realize that your overly emotional ranting makes you look like the crazy loon..right? Also, can you be reasonable enough to address one topic rather than all your neurotic rants as to why you hate Prince? Are you angry because you no longer like Prince's music, or are you angry because of the issue with Sepan? Your illogical ranting makes it difficult to determine. Also, whether or not you agree with his symbol being granted a copyright is immaterial and is just another illogical, overly emotional rant. So, let's see. You expect someone else to react with tact and class when you can't do the same, and you think that others have a problem?

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Now, allow me to restate my position, which you are missing because either you can't read or you are too emotional or illogical to comprehend. As I have stated throughout this tread, Prince could have handled this issue better, but how many times does someone have to tell you, him, me, us what he does and does not want people to do in their support of him before you, him, me, us get a clue? That's just simple logic and has nothing to do with Prince being god or this being a sect, or Prince being our cult-leader. It's about some of you overly emotional, overly delusional people who want to be connected to Prince in a way that he clearly does not want to be connected to you, him, me, or us. Or, to put it another way: He's just not that into you, him, me, us, which is cool to me because all I want is music; the rest means nothing to me. You may now continue beating your crazy ass head against the brick of your insanity.

Why do these folks keep needing Prince to be who he has shown he is not? People have been whining that Prince is an asshole for decades. It got worse with the internet because it brings the illusion of intimacy. We don't know Prince. Prince doesn't want us to really know him. Just though the music. Isn't that enough?

Prince is an artist. That is all. He is not your friend or neighbor or guru. His decisions are his to make. If you can't stand his decisions or the personality you know as Prince just move the hell on.

It is just absurd to engage Prince as it would be any other icon. They are not your friends!!!

It is very interesting all the personal insults being hurled in his direction by so-called fans. Acting all butt hurt like serpent was murdered or something. You guys are a sick bunch. I love Prince as an artist and wish the best for him but that is it. I don't feel any need to be wrapped up in outrage because he is isn't the person I want him to be.

Prince is not my friend? Who the heck here thinks he's their friend? I don't get what people are talking about here. Serpan wasn't trying to be Prince's friend--he was being a fan, sharing information with fans. All I think Prince should grow up and realize is that people can talk about what he's doing (as an artist--I only care about this because it prevents people from being able to talk about his performances/releases/streams) without him controlling it. Serpan wasn't sharing recordings or anything--he was just pointing people to Official sources (or as official as things get in Prince world) when something was happening there.

As for the idea that we're somehow blurring the nature of the artist/audience relationship. Heck, Prince is the one that pulled that "fams/not fans" stuff back in the day.

EddieC said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Eye have to agree with U! Even though Eye'm not participating in this "save Serpan" crap. It just needs to STOP! Prince has finally created a site 4 fans to have fun & participate in. Then here they go again! They can't wait to find something to crucify Prince & tear him apart about. EYE'M SICK OF IT!

Serpan CROSSED THE LINE! Was scolded about it & told it won't be tolerated anymore.This is Prince image & legacy, that he owns and built for almost 40 years! Obey his wishes & MOVE ON! Before Prince shuts 3EG down. We already have Dr fnb that Prince hand picked. Embrace him! Stop being so ungrateful! Serpan is not or will ever be Prince's publicty agent. Dr Fnb is the man Prince picked 4 his die hards. GET OVER IT!

Also Eye don't care if Eye'm torn to shreds here. Eye already have everything Eye want in my life,

Eye don't need any of your acceptance. Eye sleep well at night..

Nope. Let's look at the bolded sections. Prince has created a site 4 fans to have fun & participate in--yeah, sure. Prince has "created" a site (much like he created the symbol)--if you mean the Livestreams, yes, he's using a site to provide some streaming material, unpredictably, such that you have to be in front of your computer ready to go whenever he deigns to do anything--he has specifically chosen not to allow you to see it at other times by not providing the archiving option the site already has, and he's gotten all medieval on someone who did the horrible act of letting people know that something was happening on the site. Some fun--and then on a night when nothing horribly interesting was happening on the livestream, just to spice up the fun, the Prince-surrogate (if not Prince himself) decides to provide the entertaining spectacle of Serpan getting, as you put it "scolded" for his misbehavior. Scolded? Seriously--is Prince Serpan's mama? You don't scold another adult, no matter what you think about them. But you're right--that's almost exactly what happened. And that's a lot of what's wrong with what happened. It was completely inappropriate.

(If you mean the 3rdEye store site--yeah, he's had things like that before. Ooh--a store. How earthshattering. Now, if only he could put even a tiny bit of that "legacy" out there so people could buy it there. The symbol and some photos from the last year or two aren't his "Legacy". His legacy is 40 years of music and videos that he actively works to prevent people from having access to in decent legal ways. Go, Prince!)

You're right that Serpan isn't Prince's publicity agent--but he never pretended to be. He was a fan, who, when Prince did something interesting for other fans, committed the terrible crime of saying "Hey, guys! Check this out--Prince is doing something cool!" Goodness--how dare he? He's lucky they didn't pull out his tongue and poke out his eyes, isn't he?

So, Prince handpicked Dr. Funkenberry? For what, exactly? Is he Prince's press agent? If so, he's a pretty poor one, and he should really concentrate on improving his skills instead of his general bloggy activities. Or is he just a fan that Prince is deciding to use in some unofficial way for a few months and then turn on arbitrarily without warning? Depends--do you think Prince was really upset with Dr. F. putting up that Dance Electric 12-inch a while back? Or some other times when he tweeted things and then was told to kill the tweets? Will that be part of what Prince drags up when it's all over? I certainly hope not--that could turn ugly. But if he is handpicked as Prince's press agent now, I hope he puts him to better use.

The copyright issues? Well, you seem to recognize that they're just a ruse, since you didn't bring them up. But be aware that they are always there, and Prince will use the smallest thing to push a fight when he decides to. Make sure you don't change your avatar, which very cleverly uses the Rude Boy pin that we all associate with Prince, but that he took from someone else, so he can't sue you (or threaten to sue you). Smart move.

Please roll your eyes at me.

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theblueangel said:

he did the live streams for the 100 people that were online and for the 10,000

which then turn to a bootlegger for a copy of the stream to view or listen to at

a godly hour.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

EddieC said:

Nope. Let's look at the bolded sections. Prince has created a site 4 fans to have fun & participate in--yeah, sure. Prince has "created" a site (much like he created the symbol)--if you mean the Livestreams, yes, he's using a site to provide some streaming material, unpredictably, such that you have to be in front of your computer ready to go whenever he deigns to do anything--he has specifically chosen not to allow you to see it at other times by not providing the archiving option the site already has, and he's gotten all medieval on someone who did the horrible act of letting people know that something was happening on the site. Some fun--and then on a night when nothing horribly interesting was happening on the livestream, just to spice up the fun, the Prince-surrogate (if not Prince himself) decides to provide the entertaining spectacle of Serpan getting, as you put it "scolded" for his misbehavior. Scolded? Seriously--is Prince Serpan's mama? You don't scold another adult, no matter what you think about them. But you're right--that's almost exactly what happened. And that's a lot of what's wrong with what happened. It was completely inappropriate.

(If you mean the 3rdEye store site--yeah, he's had things like that before. Ooh--a store. How earthshattering. Now, if only he could put even a tiny bit of that "legacy" out there so people could buy it there. The symbol and some photos from the last year or two aren't his "Legacy". His legacy is 40 years of music and videos that he actively works to prevent people from having access to in decent legal ways. Go, Prince!)

You're right that Serpan isn't Prince's publicity agent--but he never pretended to be. He was a fan, who, when Prince did something interesting for other fans, committed the terrible crime of saying "Hey, guys! Check this out--Prince is doing something cool!" Goodness--how dare he? He's lucky they didn't pull out his tongue and poke out his eyes, isn't he?

So, Prince handpicked Dr. Funkenberry? For what, exactly? Is he Prince's press agent? If so, he's a pretty poor one, and he should really concentrate on improving his skills instead of his general bloggy activities. Or is he just a fan that Prince is deciding to use in some unofficial way for a few months and then turn on arbitrarily without warning? Depends--do you think Prince was really upset with Dr. F. putting up that Dance Electric 12-inch a while back? Or some other times when he tweeted things and then was told to kill the tweets? Will that be part of what Prince drags up when it's all over? I certainly hope not--that could turn ugly. But if he is handpicked as Prince's press agent now, I hope he puts him to better use.

The copyright issues? Well, you seem to recognize that they're just a ruse, since you didn't bring them up. But be aware that they are always there, and Prince will use the smallest thing to push a fight when he decides to. Make sure you don't change your avatar, which very cleverly uses the Rude Boy pin that we all associate with Prince, but that he took from someone else, so he can't sue you (or threaten to sue you). Smart move.

Please roll your eyes at me.

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Dang.

I was so hopeful.

SpiritOtter said:

Unapologetically targeting and attempting to shame and humiliate a SINGLE individual for an alleged offense in a public manner, when countless others in the same public domain are committing the same or similar alleged offense, is tantamount to bully-like behaviour. It was also not an isolated one off comment, but rather a string of continuous and consistent lines of attack undertaken in an abjectly unpleasant and condescending tone. 3rdEyeGirl acknowledges he/she will not reprimand others for the same or similar alleged offenses, just Serpan, and then appears to laugh at this quite apparent subversive abuse of power. "Tell him we love him and want him to feel welcome". Sure. Why don't you go and speak to your God. He may not be quite so loving in His judgement. [Edited 7/28/13 16:11pm]

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The fact, and I do mean fact, that Prince has done this to many other individuals and organizations over the past twenty years renders your statement of a "single individual" as false. I'm not attacking you, but your points. Serpan is not the only person or group to whom this has happened. Additionally, Prince has also been consistently inconsistent on this issue, which is what makes it so difficult to know what is and what isn't ultimately acceptable. But, what has been consistent is that he has done this to others. So, based on your first sentence, the incident with Serpan is not bullying. Also, the length of the communication does not define something as bullying. Ultimately, the communication was rude but simple: stop using my imaging and stop helping me promote my work. I don't know how that is bullying, especially if the person making the request or demand has been widely known for making this demand for twenty years or more.

murph said:

EddieC said:

IstenSzek said:

i know what you mean, it was the same for me.

so now it's back to reading about it on prince's official site.

oh, wait.....

EXACTLY!!

Prince refuses to have any organized official news type presence on the internet. If it weren't for people like Serpan doing whatever it is they do to find out what's going on, and then making the effort to point it out places like here, very few of us would have ever known about 3EGTV, or many other recent Prince projects. Sure, some of this has made it to more mainstream news sources over the last several years, but often after the fact, once things are no longer available. Maybe he doesn't want amateur PR--but he doesn't seem interested in actually getting anyone to do the job for him professionally.

If Prince wants things to be private for a tiny invited few (which is what this kind of feels like, really)--just set up in the living room and invite a couple people over. But if he's gonna put it on Livestream--well. It ain't in his living room anymore. It's not like Serpan was telling "Hey, let's go stand on the lawn and look in Prince's windows."

also, since the live stream is for 'the fans', wouldn't they rather have a couple thousand people

tuning in rather than a shameful 46?

we can't all be on iphone email allert 24/7 and jump out of bed at 4 am to watch half an hour's

worth of music (well i happen to be able to do so, but still, most people can't or won't).

at first i felt very good about the streams. at least something was happening and with all those

instrumental songs being premiered we've already got a small album's worth of stuff out of it.

but wait, prince would disapprove of that

it's all so contradictory. here's new stuff. but don't record it. listen to it once and don't share it

with other fans. and don't tell them about it. also, don't tell those who have jobs and can't hang

around in a chatroom all night what we talked about the 3 minutes a representative of 3ETV

actually showed up in the chat and freely answered questions.

because that information is clearly intended only for those in the chat, at that time and never

to be repeated or reprinted anywhere. because it's our property, what we say in a chatroom.

once again, prince gives with one hand and then hits you in the face with the other. although

i've been one of those who wore shades to work on monday morning and be all "oh no, no,

i'm not a prince fan, i just fell down the stairs" i now just opt to not watch the streams or any

other shit anymore as it is being played out 'in real time' but just get it from another source

once it's neatly filed and catalogued and rather less tained by all the paisley drama

i wonder if other artists are this weird regarding their fans and these issues. i know artists

who are selling hundreds of times more albums and singles than prince who release vinyl

singles with bsides that are not available elsewhere and who simply don't give a fuck if a

fan uploads an audio rip of the vinyl onto a discussion board dedicated to them. simply

because they made their money selling a limited print of vinyl and then move on and are

ok with all the other fans who didn't get a copy, to then get one for free. and that's just 1

lousy example.

prince isn't stingy with his material. on the one hand he's handing out new stuff on these

streams. but i bet that if someone posted a link here to one of them, he'd rip out his hair

and throw a world class fit.

it seems like he absolutely fails to see that fans of his music want his music. we don't want

to illegally download it or have to even hear about it by word of mouth, we want to buy it

and know everything about it. but he doesn't communicate.

murph said:

1725topp said:

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I have not said anything about Serpan's character. Good for him for taking the high road rather than being adversarial. Yet, all of my posts have stated that anyone who has been a Prince fan for at least ten years knows how this story ends. I have never said that Serpan was told multiple times. I said that we all know how this story ends because we have all seen Prince attack someone when that person or group or website or fan magazine thought that they were helping him or just being a loyal fan. Based on that history, I find it incredibly naive that Serpan or anyone does not realize that it is a risk becoming associated with disseminating Prince information, especially while using Prince imaging. Again, tomorrow it may be Dr. Funkenberry, but many of the people on this site will show how hypocritical they are because while they are supporting Serpan they will be dissing and celebrating that Dr. Funkenberry was attacked because that is the nature of hypocrisy that I have seen on this site for so long. Yet, be that as it may, Dr. Funkenberry will get the same treatment from me. The stove is hot, and you get what you get from touching it.

U r making this out more to be than it is....

I don't concern myself with what some of the more nuttier element on this site does....I'm just talking about an artist who needs to have better people around him and learn how to respect a fan that was simply trying to get the word out about a live stream....All of this other stuff u r talking about is pretty much moot in this discussion....But again, it's all good...No beef here....Keep doing your thing, homie...

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It's funny that when I have an appropriate answer for everything you asked/stated now I'm making more out of it than it is. You were the one who implied or inferred that I was attacking Serpan's character by responding with "Serpan is a stand up guy." I don't know anything that I posted that would warrant that reply from you. So, I'm definitely not the person making more of this than it is. And, yes, it's all good. There is no beef. I'mma keep doing my Mississippi Thang playa. And Prince may need to learn to respect his fans, but people in general need to learn that pit bulls always bite and that hot stoves burn. Prince is an ass whose been saying for years that he doesn’t want fans help with his imaging and promotion. Maybe this will be the straw that will cause more people to just engage the music or find an artist that wants the same help or following that many on this site desire to give.

andykeen said:

This is whack.. I'm boycotting Prince. If this how he wants to treat his fans.... Fuck him. Old washed up control freak

i can't believe this! well maybe i can. sucker isn't getting another dime from me until he learns to treat his fans - and FREE PROMOTERS - right. I'm DONE.

also, why isn't there a gif yet of prince shooting himself in the foot?

lord knows it could be put to good use around here

Who or what is Serpan?

rap said:

Who or what is Serpan?

hey Bria, how u doin' girl?

IstenSzek said:

EddieC said:

EXACTLY!!

Prince refuses to have any organized official news type presence on the internet. If it weren't for people like Serpan doing whatever it is they do to find out what's going on, and then making the effort to point it out places like here, very few of us would have ever known about 3EGTV, or many other recent Prince projects. Sure, some of this has made it to more mainstream news sources over the last several years, but often after the fact, once things are no longer available. Maybe he doesn't want amateur PR--but he doesn't seem interested in actually getting anyone to do the job for him professionally.

If Prince wants things to be private for a tiny invited few (which is what this kind of feels like, really)--just set up in the living room and invite a couple people over. But if he's gonna put it on Livestream--well. It ain't in his living room anymore. It's not like Serpan was telling "Hey, let's go stand on the lawn and look in Prince's windows."

also, since the live stream is for 'the fans', wouldn't they rather have a couple thousand people

tuning in rather than a shameful 46?

we can't all be on iphone email allert 24/7 and jump out of bed at 4 am to watch half an hour's

worth of music (well i happen to be able to do so, but still, most people can't or won't).

at first i felt very good about the streams. at least something was happening and with all those

instrumental songs being premiered we've already got a small album's worth of stuff out of it.

but wait, prince would disapprove of that

it's all so contradictory. here's new stuff. but don't record it. listen to it once and don't share it

with other fans. and don't tell them about it. also, don't tell those who have jobs and can't hang

around in a chatroom all night what we talked about the 3 minutes a representative of 3ETV

actually showed up in the chat and freely answered questions.

because that information is clearly intended only for those in the chat, at that time and never

to be repeated or reprinted anywhere. because it's our property, what we say in a chatroom.

once again, prince gives with one hand and then hits you in the face with the other. although

i've been one of those who wore shades to work on monday morning and be all "oh no, no,

i'm not a prince fan, i just fell down the stairs" i now just opt to not watch the streams or any

other shit anymore as it is being played out 'in real time' but just get it from another source

once it's neatly filed and catalogued and rather less tained by all the paisley drama

i wonder if other artists are this weird regarding their fans and these issues. i know artists

who are selling hundreds of times more albums and singles than prince who release vinyl

singles with bsides that are not available elsewhere and who simply don't give a fuck if a

fan uploads an audio rip of the vinyl onto a discussion board dedicated to them. simply

because they made their money selling a limited print of vinyl and then move on and are

ok with all the other fans who didn't get a copy, to then get one for free. and that's just 1

lousy example.

prince isn't stingy with his material. on the one hand he's handing out new stuff on these

streams. but i bet that if someone posted a link here to one of them, he'd rip out his hair

and throw a world class fit.

it seems like he absolutely fails to see that fans of his music want his music. we don't want

to illegally download it or have to even hear about it by word of mouth, we want to buy it

and know everything about it. but he doesn't communicate.

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I really don't understand how having 46 people check it out is "shameful." Of course, I don't pretend to know what's in Prince's mind, but y'all seem to be projecting onto Prince what y'all view as a successful project or number of followers and fans. Yet, it seems that Prince has a history of doing the thing that is quite anti to building a mass following, like choosing "If I Was your Girlfriend" as a single among other questioned moves, but it also seems that Prince can live with how he communicates or promotes his music to his fans. And if how he communicates or promotes his work to his fans is too limited or frustrating for those fans, then the logical thing would be to find an artist who communicates or promotes his music in a manner that one likes. If for the past twenty years Prince has said: “This is how I’m going to be and this is how I’m going to handle my business, take it or leave it,” and one is dissatisfied with how Prince consistently handles his business, then the best thing to do is just leave it. All this anger and stress over what another human being does with his art is just illogical.

Ultimately, Prince retains the right to control and promote his art as he sees fit. That is his prerogative.

That's all there is to it.

Disgruntled fans will try and spin it negatively as per usual. But shit, look at the thread title.

It may not seem "right", or "fair", but bear in mind - Prince has a vision, and a plan for how we wants all this to work, and how he wants the information to be disseminated. He should have the freedom to execute that plan in the manner that he sees fit.

IstenSzek said:

Serpan-gate 2013