Graycap23 said:

There was a time when I was fully on board with the stuff that Prince does regarding his career. After all..........it is his journey. That said, I truly believe that Prince has been successful in killing or severly limiting what remains of his career from a record releasing standpoint. I won't rehash what we already know, but his current stance on the internet, youtube, distribution methods, and religion have all contributed 2 destroying (my opinion) what was a fantastic career.

I am sad 2 see this day come....................but it is here.

Like I said before, I've never brought another Prince album since 3121. After hearing the preview of tracks from the Planet Earth album, I knew even then that Prince was musically boring again. Good grief, not even reuniting with Wendy & Lisa was enough to motive him to step his game up.

Thanks to negative feedback from some fans, I'm so happy that I've never wasted my money on Lotusflower & 20TEN.

TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:

There was a time when I was fully on board with the stuff that Prince does regarding his career. After all..........it is his journey. That said, I truly believe that Prince has been successful in killing or severly limiting what remains of his career from a record releasing standpoint. I won't rehash what we already know, but his current stance on the internet, youtube, distribution methods, and religion have all contributed 2 destroying (my opinion) what was a fantastic career.

I am sad 2 see this day come....................but it is here.

Like I said before, I've never brought another Prince album since 3121. After hearing the preview of tracks from the Planet Earth album, I knew even then that Prince was musically boring again. Good grief, not even reuniting with Wendy & Lisa was enough to motive him to step his game up.

Thanks to negative feedback from some fans, I'm so happy that I've never wasted my money on Lotusflower & 20TEN.

I'm not sure if I'd go just on what "fans" say about new releases. Both of those releases are worth checking out if only to satisfy your curiosity, assuming you have some. Besides, Target was practically giving away Lotusflower at one point.

TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:

There was a time when I was fully on board with the stuff that Prince does regarding his career. After all..........it is his journey. That said, I truly believe that Prince has been successful in killing or severly limiting what remains of his career from a record releasing standpoint. I won't rehash what we already know, but his current stance on the internet, youtube, distribution methods, and religion have all contributed 2 destroying (my opinion) what was a fantastic career.

I am sad 2 see this day come....................but it is here.

Like I said before, I've never brought another Prince album since 3121. After hearing the preview of tracks from the Planet Earth album, I knew even then that Prince was musically boring again. Good grief, not even reuniting with Wendy & Lisa was enough to motive him to step his game up.

Thanks to negative feedback from some fans, I'm so happy that I've never wasted my money on Lotusflower & 20TEN.

My issue with Prince in 2012 has nothing 2 do with with the material.

It is the LACK of material that I'm speaking on.

maybe he's just taking his time putting a great album together which is what he ought to do imo. it's not as if his albums in the last decade were awful but they didn't bring anything new to the table either - mostly prince by numbers though i liked the lotusflower set quite a lot.

babynoz said:

I don't believe that Prince is "ova"

He has an odd habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory now and then, but the phenomenal talent and singular creativity is still there. I wasn't a big fan of 20ten but I certainly dug Lotusflower and I love the hell outta 3121.

I'm not particularly worried.

Agree with bolded part. As a matter of fact I just played the 3121 cd this weekend and his 'For You' cd. I love the 3121 cd and wished that radio would have played it more often. His guitar playing in 'The Word' is awesome and I enjoy the song 'Love' more than I did when the cd came out. Quite a few songs on the LF3 I enjoyed as well. I appreciate the many, different music styles of Prince. I doubt seriously if it's 'ova'.

Graycap23 said:

There was a time when I was fully on board with the stuff that Prince does regarding his career. After all..........it is his journey. That said, I truly believe that Prince has been successful in killing or severly limiting what remains of his career from a record releasing standpoint. I won't rehash what we already know, but his current stance on the internet, youtube, distribution methods, and religion have all contributed 2 destroying (my opinion) what was a fantastic career.

I am sad 2 see this day come....................but it is here.

He's supposed to be "ova" - he's old. I've come to peace about that.

Graycap23 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Like I said before, I've never brought another Prince album since 3121. After hearing the preview of tracks from the Planet Earth album, I knew even then that Prince was musically boring again. Good grief, not even reuniting with Wendy & Lisa was enough to motive him to step his game up.

Thanks to negative feedback from some fans, I'm so happy that I've never wasted my money on Lotusflower & 20TEN.

My issue with Prince in 2012 has nothing 2 do with with the material.

It is the LACK of material that I'm speaking on.

Fair enough. And my concern is about the lack of material WORTH BUYING!

Graycap23 said:

There was a time when I was fully on board with the stuff that Prince does regarding his career. After all..........it is his journey. That said, I truly believe that Prince has been successful in killing or severly limiting what remains of his career from a record releasing standpoint. I won't rehash what we already know, but his current stance on the internet, youtube, distribution methods, and religion have all contributed 2 destroying (my opinion) what was a fantastic career.

I am sad 2 see this day come....................but it is here.

is not

Barring a shocking turn of events, Prince's last hurrah was likely the Musicology album and tour.

It was stunning to see him on MTV again, and the cover of Rolling Stone. Unfortunately, this "comeback" album was weighed down with some subpar tunes ala Rave, another opportunity blown.

If Prince was ever going to make a go of remastering, this seemed like the time. They could have had a 20 year "Purple Rain" anniversary type deal, put out the Syracuse concert on remastered DVD, maybe the first two or three CDs remastered as double discs along with PR. The fan interest was totally there that spring and summer. But he proved again, as he has so many times, that he just doesn't care.

Which is a shame, because even if he doesn't, many of us do. We'd love to go out and buy the old albums cleaned up and remastered, b-sides and outakes on a second or even third disc. He's aware of all of this.

He just doesn't care. But it's not about being a sellout, or living in the past. It's about his legacy. The early albums are just too damn good to never be remastered, and it's too bad there's no one in his life who can make him see that.

eugny1 said:

Barring a shocking turn of events, Prince's last hurrah was likely the Musicology album and tour.

It was stunning to see him on MTV again, and the cover of Rolling Stone. Unfortunately, this "comeback" album was weighed down with some subpar tunes ala Rave, another opportunity blown.

If Prince was ever going to make a go of remastering, this seemed like the time. They could have had a 20 year "Purple Rain" anniversary type deal, put out the Syracuse concert on remastered DVD, maybe the first two or three CDs remastered as double discs along with PR. The fan interest was totally there that spring and summer. But he proved again, as he has so many times, that he just doesn't care.

Which is a shame, because even if he doesn't, many of us do. We'd love to go out and buy the old albums cleaned up and remastered, b-sides and outakes on a second or even third disc. He's aware of all of this.

He just doesn't care. But it's not about being a sellout, or living in the past. It's about his legacy. The early albums are just too damn good to never be remastered, and it's too bad there's no one in his life who can make him see that.

I predicted in another thread that it will happen in 2014 for the 30th anniversary. Circumstances are different this time around. On the one hand, Prince has more leverage in dealing with WMG because of the 35-year reversion under the Copyright Act. On the other hand, everyone involved knows that there is not much time left to make money from reissues under the traditional model. But if Prince wants to keep making money touring as a nostalgia act, he needs to have some new product out there to remind people why they should go see him. We'll see, I guess.

Graycap23 said:

babynoz said:

I don't believe that Prince is "ova"

He has an odd habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory now and then, but the phenomenal talent and singular creativity is still there. I wasn't a big fan of 20ten but I certainly dug Lotusflower and I love the hell outta 3121.

I'm not particularly worried.

If Prince retired from releasing records/cd............do u think he would say anything or just fade 2 black?

He'd probably just continue recording and playing for himself and his friends at the very least. As long as he is physically and mentally able to function he will make music.

Empress said:

the stars dont remain aligned 4eva.....wot will b will b.....

The Revolution will b heard!

Evolsidog....

Prince will always begin endlessly..because according to him; there is no time..AND that means...what he is doing..is just Living..He was here before, and he will be here again...

Waiting is always the worst part of anything...lol

If Prince is OVA then why even bother posting about it? Why still follow what he and his circle do? Why even register his existence in your consciousness? Why? It's cause even if Prince was OVA you'd still keep tabs on him and want to know when new music is coming or if he's going to tour. Prince has a truly weird fanbase. They proclaim him irrelevant, out of touch, vindictive, money hungry and pretty much label him with every negative trait imaginable then thirst for a new CD every 11 month and 29 days! Yeah he's OVA!!! Whateva!

Hes going to release Andy A., and call it his. Hopefully its not Bria Valente repeat.

eugny1 said:

Barring a shocking turn of events, Prince's last hurrah was likely the Musicology album and tour.

It was stunning to see him on MTV again, and the cover of Rolling Stone. Unfortunately, this "comeback" album was weighed down with some subpar tunes ala Rave, another opportunity blown.

If Prince was ever going to make a go of remastering, this seemed like the time. They could have had a 20 year "Purple Rain" anniversary type deal, put out the Syracuse concert on remastered DVD, maybe the first two or three CDs remastered as double discs along with PR. The fan interest was totally there that spring and summer. But he proved again, as he has so many times, that he just doesn't care.

Which is a shame, because even if he doesn't, many of us do. We'd love to go out and buy the old albums cleaned up and remastered, b-sides and outakes on a second or even third disc. He's aware of all of this.

He just doesn't care. But it's not about being a sellout, or living in the past. It's about his legacy. The early albums are just too damn good to never be remastered, and it's too bad there's no one in his life who can make him see that.

Well said. I normally don't care for remasters... but you really put things in perspective.

Especially as I imagined a re-release of the Purple Rain CD with B-sides, unreleased gems(Electric Intercourse comes to mind), and/or a third disc of era songs with The Time, Appolonia, Sheila's Glamorous Life, and Dez's Modernaire. There is still some buzz about the 80's but he can't wait forever. The kids who were born in the mid 80's are getting into their late 20's now. Time waits for no one right?

The thing is, I don't care what state he is in as far as his career goes, because he did everything he can do. He already has hits and he's been out for a long motherfucking time, lasted more than an average artist could released a shit load of albums. The music is great to me. That's all that matters. I couldn't give less of a shit how Extraloveable 2011 is doing on the charts because I love that song.

I haven't been a supporter as long as you have but so what? I'm still a supporter. No matter what his religion is, what his political views are, or who he's dating currently. That's HIS business. I love him because he is talented as fuck. Still is, too. I saw him live a year and a half ago for the first time and it blew my fucking mind because I know in my heart he's still got it.

I wouldn't be on this site if I thought Prince was "OVA" because I'd head over to other websites dedicated to artists I think are epic. I think Prince is epic, so I am here. Even though I have to deal with stupid threads like this written by delusional people.

Goodnight, and oh yeah....

LOCK THIS SHIT!!!!!

NeonCraxx said:

The thing is, I don't care what state he is in as far as his career goes, because he did everything he can do. He already has hits and he's been out for a long motherfucking time, lasted more than an average artist could released a shit load of albums. The music is great to me. That's all that matters. I couldn't give less of a shit how Extraloveable 2011 is doing on the charts because I love that song.

I haven't been a supporter as long as you have but so what? I'm still a supporter. No matter what his religion is, what his political views are, or who he's dating currently. That's HIS business. I love him because he is talented as fuck. Still is, too. I saw him live a year and a half ago for the first time and it blew my fucking mind because I know in my heart he's still got it.

I wouldn't be on this site if I thought Prince was "OVA" because I'd head over to other websites dedicated to artists I think are epic. I think Prince is epic, so I am here. Even though I have to deal with stupid threads like this written by delusional people.

Goodnight, and oh yeah....

LOCK THIS SHIT!!!!!

NeonCraxx said:

The thing is, I don't care what state he is in as far as his career goes, because he did everything he can do. He already has hits and he's been out for a long motherfucking time, lasted more than an average artist could released a shit load of albums. The music is great to me. That's all that matters. I couldn't give less of a shit how Extraloveable 2011 is doing on the charts because I love that song.

I haven't been a supporter as long as you have but so what? I'm still a supporter. No matter what his religion is, what his political views are, or who he's dating currently. That's HIS business. I love him because he is talented as fuck. Still is, too. I saw him live a year and a half ago for the first time and it blew my fucking mind because I know in my heart he's still got it.

I wouldn't be on this site if I thought Prince was "OVA" because I'd head over to other websites dedicated to artists I think are epic. I think Prince is epic, so I am here. Even though I have to deal with stupid threads like this written by delusional people.

Goodnight, and oh yeah....

LOCK THIS SHIT!!!!!

Lol.........they have meds 4 that.

Seeing Prince in concert has nothig 2 do with my comments.

[Edited 8/30/12 4:16am]

TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:

My issue with Prince in 2012 has nothing 2 do with with the material.

It is the LACK of material that I'm speaking on.

Fair enough. And my concern is about the lack of material WORTH BUYING!

Mine too! For decades to be honest!

Graycap23 said:

funkomatic said:

Graycap23 said:

There was a time when I was fully on board with the stuff that Prince does regarding his career. After all..........it is his journey. That said, I truly believe that Prince has been successful in killing or severly limiting what remains of his career from a record releasing standpoint. I won't rehash what we already know, but his current stance on the internet, youtube, distribution methods, and religion have all contributed 2 destroying (my opinion) what was a fantastic career.

I am sad 2 see this day come....................but it is here.

While I disagree with some of his career choices (like the ones you mentioned), I really don't care. I really just want to hear his music. Whether its via Internet, youtube, torrents, or legit CDs/DVDs, I want to hear the songs. There's always a way. Sure, I wish he released more stuff and toured more, but I felt that way back in the day when he was releasing an album a year and touring a lot. So his career can be as lucrative as it was at the height of Purple Rain, or as low as playing state fairs and tiny theaters on a "Back to the 80s" show with Ready For The World and Ray Parker Jr... I don't care, just gimme da funk!

Also, they've been saying his career is over since day one. He always manages what they call a comeback. He seems to have one every few years.

Chas said:

Graycap23 said:

There was a time when I was fully on board with the stuff that Prince does regarding his career. After all..........it is his journey. That said, I truly believe that Prince has been successful in killing or severly limiting what remains of his career from a record releasing standpoint. I won't rehash what we already know, but his current stance on the internet, youtube, distribution methods, and religion have all contributed 2 destroying (my opinion) what was a fantastic career.

I am sad 2 see this day come....................but it is here.

While I disagree with some of his career choices (like the ones you mentioned), I really don't care. I really just want to hear his music. Whether its via Internet, youtube, torrents, or legit CDs/DVDs, I want to hear the songs. There's always a way. Sure, I wish he released more stuff and toured more, but I felt that way back in the day when he was releasing an album a year and touring a lot. So his career can be as lucrative as it was at the height of Purple Rain, or as low as playing state fairs and tiny theaters on a "Back to the 80s" show with Ready For The World and Ray Parker Jr... I don't care, just gimme da funk!

Also, they've been saying his career is over since day one. He always manages what they call a comeback. He seems to have one every few years.

I feel u. It has come 2 point where now, if Prince came 2 my city, I would not go and see him. Not because he has lost it live, (he is better than ever live) I'm just tired of the same "greatest" hits setlist. One of the things I loved about Prince was his tours where he would play a majority of "new" material. Those days seem 2 be gone as well.I've seen Prince live so many times I've lost count, so seeing a greatest hits show in any form just does not work 4 me.

Graycap23 said:

Chas said:

While I disagree with some of his career choices (like the ones you mentioned), I really don't care. I really just want to hear his music. Whether its via Internet, youtube, torrents, or legit CDs/DVDs, I want to hear the songs. There's always a way. Sure, I wish he released more stuff and toured more, but I felt that way back in the day when he was releasing an album a year and touring a lot. So his career can be as lucrative as it was at the height of Purple Rain, or as low as playing state fairs and tiny theaters on a "Back to the 80s" show with Ready For The World and Ray Parker Jr... I don't care, just gimme da funk!

Also, they've been saying his career is over since day one. He always manages what they call a comeback. He seems to have one every few years.

I feel u. It has come 2 point where now, if Prince came 2 my city, I would not go and see him. Not because he has lost it live, (he is better than ever live) I'm just tired of the same "greatest" hits setlist. One of the things I loved about Prince was his tours where he would play a majority of "new" material. Those days seem 2 be gone as well.I've seen Prince live so many times I've lost count, so seeing a greatest hits show in any form just does not work 4 me.

I hear what you're saying and can understand. I'm more on the same page with Chad. I don't really care anymore about his business decisions or how he delivers his music because no matter how he does it, I can always get my hands on it. I just want to hear his music and experience it. As for the greatest hits tours, I still go because I guess I can never get tired of it. Life is short and I rather experience his shows as much as I can until he's no longer with us. I'm riding this train till the very end Looking back, its been a great 30 year ride

[Edited 8/30/12 7:15am]

It ain't over until Shelby sings.

But nah, I think Prince is either really taking a break or is helping other folks (he seems to be focused on Andy's album atm from what I'm reading).

wonder505 said:

Graycap23 said:

I feel u. It has come 2 point where now, if Prince came 2 my city, I would not go and see him. Not because he has lost it live, (he is better than ever live) I'm just tired of the same "greatest" hits setlist. One of the things I loved about Prince was his tours where he would play a majority of "new" material. Those days seem 2 be gone as well.I've seen Prince live so many times I've lost count, so seeing a greatest hits show in any form just does not work 4 me.

I hear what you're saying and can understand. I'm more on the same page with Chad. I don't really care anymore about his business decisions or how he delivers his music because no matter how he does it, I can always get my hands on it. I just want to hear his music and experience it. As for the greatest hits tours, I still go because I guess I can never get tired of it. Life is short and I rather experience his shows as much as I can until he's no longer with us. I'm riding this train till the very end Looking back, its been a great 30 year ride

[Edited 8/30/12 7:15am]

No doubt about that.

I guess I'm sad 2 see the train pulling into the station.