Graycap23 said:

wonder505 said:

I hear what you're saying and can understand. I'm more on the same page with Chad. I don't really care anymore about his business decisions or how he delivers his music because no matter how he does it, I can always get my hands on it. I just want to hear his music and experience it. As for the greatest hits tours, I still go because I guess I can never get tired of it. Life is short and I rather experience his shows as much as I can until he's no longer with us. I'm riding this train till the very end Looking back, its been a great 30 year ride

[Edited 8/30/12 7:15am]

No doubt about that.

I guess I'm sad 2 see the train pulling into the station.

Is the fact that Prince hasn't released a new CD this year really such a heart wrenching, emotional event? Evidenced by some of the current threads on this site it's obvious that some of the fans are bored by the lack of output. Google back a little further and these were some of the same fans calling for him to take a break. Well he listened to the fans finally! Be careful what you ask for cause you just might get it!

jayARDAHB said:

Graycap23 said:

Well, you know, you can't put finality to a musician's/artist's career plans unless they do it themselves. With Prince's 35-year plus music career, I see no end to it, anytime soon unless Prince makes that announcement himself. So in the meantime, I will just enjoy and appreciate all the music he shared with his fans over the years, and the music I purchased of his, as well as, the great memories of all his concerts I attended.

Graycap23 said:

Chas said:

While I disagree with some of his career choices (like the ones you mentioned), I really don't

I feel u. It has come 2 point where now, if Prince came 2 my city, I would not go and see him. Not because he has lost it live, (he is better than ever live) I'm just tired of the same "greatest" hits setlist. One of the things I loved about Prince was his tours where he would play a majority of "new" material. Those days seem 2 be gone as well.I've seen Prince live so many times I've lost count, so seeing a greatest hits show in any form just does not work 4 me.

I'd take a Prince greatest hits show over a new hits by any other artist. I've seen him 21 times, and each show was different, even the multiple ones from the same tour. To me, the song selection is only part of the show. I like to hear the little changes he makes, and watching him operate as a band director while keeping the crowd engaged is a show in itself. Also, the vibe of a Prince show is electric, few performers electrify a crowd like him.

Chas said:

Graycap23 said:

I feel u. It has come 2 point where now, if Prince came 2 my city, I would not go and see him. Not because he has lost it live, (he is better than ever live) I'm just tired of the same "greatest" hits setlist. One of the things I loved about Prince was his tours where he would play a majority of "new" material. Those days seem 2 be gone as well.I've seen Prince live so many times I've lost count, so seeing a greatest hits show in any form just does not work 4 me.

I'd take a Prince greatest hits show over a new hits by any other artist. I've seen him 21 times, and each show was different, even the multiple ones from the same tour. To me, the song selection is only part of the show. I like to hear the little changes he makes, and watching him operate as a band director while keeping the crowd engaged is a show in itself. Also, the vibe of a Prince show is electric, few performers electrify a crowd like him.

I dig that but I've heard all of the pre 2001 stuff way 2 many times. I'd love 2 hear the newer material and not some weak medley arranged versions.

I’ve liked Prince since I first heard the guy, which was on a friend’s boombox when I was a 9 year old girl (who had no idea what “Jack U Off” meant!). I will always like the guy and his wonderful music. Even if the latest releases aren’t the greatest releases, there never fails to be a keeper or two on every release (for me “Dance 4 Me,” “Dreamer,” “Laydown,” etc.), so though I bide my time listening (and listening) to his older stuff, I eagerly await new stuff.

One of the things I simply do not understand, is this – how can a person considered by many to be a bonafide musical genius, be so off the mark when it comes to business decisions. I lost count over the last few years at the times Prince appeared in MN papers’ headlines with the words “sued” “lawsuit” or “legal battle” next to his name. He never even released 20Ten in the U.S., did he? Once it was released via papers and mags in Europe, people put it online so buying it in the states sort of became moot for many anyhow. The 3121 perfume deal ended badly. Some gigs he had lined up ended badly. He’s had property problems in Chanhassen. Maybe he’s just trying to get his house in order and right the wrong. Perhaps he’s taking this time off to rest and relax (which he more than deserves). I’d like to think he’s been excavating the vault, polishing up those gems for us. Selfishly, I hope it’s the latter.

HonestMan13 said:

Graycap23 said:

No doubt about that.

I guess I'm sad 2 see the train pulling into the station.

Is the fact that Prince hasn't released a new CD this year really such a heart wrenching, emotional event? Evidenced by some of the current threads on this site it's obvious that some of the fans are bored by the lack of output. Google back a little further and these were some of the same fans calling for him to take a break. Well he listened to the fans finally! Be careful what you ask for cause you just might get it!

I about said the same thing lol now people want him to come back and release something?

HonestMan13 said:

Graycap23 said:

No doubt about that.

I guess I'm sad 2 see the train pulling into the station.

Is the fact that Prince hasn't released a new CD this year really such a heart wrenching, emotional event? Evidenced by some of the current threads on this site it's obvious that some of the fans are bored by the lack of output. Google back a little further and these were some of the same fans calling for him to take a break. Well he listened to the fans finally! Be careful what you ask for cause you just might get it!

Heart wrenching? Lol......

U have never heard me tell Prince 2 take a break.

Never will either.

Graycap23 said:

HonestMan13 said:

Is the fact that Prince hasn't released a new CD this year really such a heart wrenching, emotional event? Evidenced by some of the current threads on this site it's obvious that some of the fans are bored by the lack of output. Google back a little further and these were some of the same fans calling for him to take a break. Well he listened to the fans finally! Be careful what you ask for cause you just might get it!

Heart wrenching? Lol......

U have never heard me tell Prince 2 take a break.

Never will either.

I'm sorry. You seem at tad emotional about it. "...I'm sad to see the train pulling into the staion."

HonestMan13 said:

Graycap23 said:

Heart wrenching? Lol......

U have never heard me tell Prince 2 take a break.

Never will either.

I'm sorry. You seem at tad emotional about it. "...I'm sad to see the train pulling into the staion."

Emotional? Not at all.

Yeah sad, Prince is over..

It all began with Emancipation.

1996, post warner brothers.

HonestMan13 said:

If Prince is OVA then why even bother posting about it? Why still follow what he and his circle do? Why even register his existence in your consciousness? Why? It's cause even if Prince was OVA you'd still keep tabs on him and want to know when new music is coming or if he's going to tour. Prince has a truly weird fanbase. They proclaim him irrelevant, out of touch, vindictive, money hungry and pretty much label him with every negative trait imaginable then thirst for a new CD every 11 month and 29 days! Yeah he's OVA!!! Whateva!

Because we all need to do a proper bitching then we notice the flaws within the music industry. And if Prince is screwing up a bit, then we who called ourselves Prince-fans should exercise that option of bitching about it.

thedance said:

Yeah sad, Prince is over..

It all began with Emancipation.

1996, post warner brothers.

He lost his fire when he hired Wendy.

electricberet said:

thedance said:

Yeah sad, Prince is over..

It all began with Emancipation.

1996, post warner brothers.

He lost his fire when he hired Wendy.

now it's just a matter of waiting until someone comes along and says

"prince lost it when he sold out and sent his demo tape to warners"

If he never released any new music anymore, I could care less. I still buy all his new releases but I don't get excited in the least anymore and sit and count the days until it's released like I used to because I know before I even buy it that it's only going to be decent and not absolutely great. I don't see it as Prince's fault either because looking at the music scene in general of the last 20 years, there's nothing out there to inspire him to record something great. It's hard to just completely 100% tune out the current music scene and not be exposed to it in even the slightest way because it's all over the TV, in the commercials, coming from passing cars on the street, and even on this very website. A totally great album from Prince would sound like he's never even had a hint of exposure to current music and on every recent album, there's always things coming up in songs and even in whole tracks like "Incense and Candles" and "Laydown" that it is either influencing his sound, or he's selling out trying to gain new listeners who are into that type of bullshit. The only way I'd get fully excited about a new Prince album coming out is if he were releasing something old from the vault that was recorded years before any of the current music was even thought of being invented.

Then there's also the way you buy music these days that's no longer exciting. All the actual "record stores" have now closed and there's nothing left but bullshit places like Best Buy, Target, etc. that never really carried a variety of music in the first place. Plus, I hate giving my money to monopolies like these if I can avoid it. It's getting to the point that if you want a new album, you have to order it from the internet. Well, when you do that, you don't get it instantly, you have to wait for it to come in the mail. Now they are selling downloads over the internet these days which is rediculous because if you're going to download something, you might as well do a little digging and find it for free and save your money because you're not going to have a physical copy whether you pay for it or not if you go the download route.

So no, it's not the same at all. The thrill is gone and I don't see it as Prince's fault but rather the music industry's fault.

TonyVanDam said:

HonestMan13 said:

If Prince is OVA then why even bother posting about it? Why still follow what he and his circle do? Why even register his existence in your consciousness? Why? It's cause even if Prince was OVA you'd still keep tabs on him and want to know when new music is coming or if he's going to tour. Prince has a truly weird fanbase. They proclaim him irrelevant, out of touch, vindictive, money hungry and pretty much label him with every negative trait imaginable then thirst for a new CD every 11 month and 29 days! Yeah he's OVA!!! Whateva!

Because we all need to do a proper bitching then we notice the flaws within the music industry. And if Prince is screwing up a bit, then we who called ourselves Prince-fans should exercise that option of bitching about it.

So now not releasing a CD a year is 'screwing up'?

HonestMan13 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Because we all need to do a proper bitching then we notice the flaws within the music industry. And if Prince is screwing up a bit, then we who called ourselves Prince-fans should exercise that option of bitching about it.

So now not releasing a CD a year is 'screwing up'?

No. But being musically boring and/or not being YouTube-friendly IS "screwing up".

electricberet said:

thedance said:

Yeah sad, Prince is over..

It all began with Emancipation.

1996, post warner brothers.

He lost his fire when he hired Wendy.

Bullshit!

TonyVanDam said:

HonestMan13 said:

So now not releasing a CD a year is 'screwing up'?

No. But being musically boring and/or not being YouTube-friendly IS "screwing up".

Since 20Ten was the last full length release and over 2 years ago and YouTube is an extremely old issue shouldn't you have gotten over it by now? That what I meant when I asked the OP about this all being such an 'emotional' deal?

TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:

There was a time when I was fully on board with the stuff that Prince does regarding his career. After all..........it is his journey. That said, I truly believe that Prince has been successful in killing or severly limiting what remains of his career from a record releasing standpoint. I won't rehash what we already know, but his current stance on the internet, youtube, distribution methods, and religion have all contributed 2 destroying (my opinion) what was a fantastic career.

I am sad 2 see this day come....................but it is here.

I don't believe the day has come that Prince is out of it but I must say that I am a little nervous. I mean it's been 2 long years going on 3 that he has not released an album and he promised he wouldn't until the internet and bootlegging and what not went away (which will never happen) so I mean unless he gets creative there is a chance there wont be any new stuff which will be a real kick in the nuts for his fans. Part of me says good for him. This is his music his life and his beliefs and you dont bend them for anyone but the other part of me says Hey! WTF! we're your fans and if you got it in you to keep making music (which we know you do) then make it. Dont hold out! forget success forget money forget staying relevant! fuck it we r your fans and we want more! do it for us! you're a musician not a just a pop star who depends on image (like madge) so there is no need to worry about people saying 'your too old' or 'time to throw in the towel'. She receives comments like that because she depends mostly on image not talent. When you have talent you're timeless no matter what age you perform. Do you hear anybody telling stevie wonder to throw in the towel? he's much older than madonna yet he plugs along with the utmost respect by everyone. Anyways I hope Prince comes back with a new album and does a world tour. I would love to see him in concert again!!!

HonestMan13 said:

TonyVanDam said:

No. But being musically boring and/or not being YouTube-friendly IS "screwing up".

Since 20Ten was the last full length release and over 2 years ago and YouTube is an extremely old issue shouldn't you have gotten over it by now? That what I meant when I asked the OP about this all being such an 'emotional' deal?

I don't have to get over a damn thing TBDH. Prince is not a YouTube friendly artist and this is still a current issue. And I'm strongly convince that the current generation of young music fans aren't being given a fair opportunity to learn their music history.

TonyVanDam said:

HonestMan13 said:

Since 20Ten was the last full length release and over 2 years ago and YouTube is an extremely old issue shouldn't you have gotten over it by now? That what I meant when I asked the OP about this all being such an 'emotional' deal?

I don't have to get over a damn thing TBDH. Prince is not a YouTube friendly artist and this is still a current issue. And I'm strongly convince that the current generation of young music fans aren't being given a fair opportunity to learn their music history.

And YouTube is the place to learn music history? The same place that gave us the 'Dick Slang' and vomit videos.

HonestMan13 said:

TonyVanDam said:

I don't have to get over a damn thing TBDH. Prince is not a YouTube friendly artist and this is still a current issue. And I'm strongly convince that the current generation of young music fans aren't being given a fair opportunity to learn their music history.

And YouTube is the place to learn music history? The same place that gave us the 'Dick Slang' and vomit videos.

Plus, Youtube isn't the only video site on the internet. I can google any certain Prince video I wanna see. Released or Unreleased. Live shows, etc.

It annoys the shit outta me when folks act like Youtube is the only game in town.

Kids can also go on Spotify and listen to Prince's music.

Prince's music isn't non-existant on the internet. You don't have to do much searching to find it, either.

TonyVanDam said:

HonestMan13 said:

Since 20Ten was the last full length release and over 2 years ago and YouTube is an extremely old issue shouldn't you have gotten over it by now? That what I meant when I asked the OP about this all being such an 'emotional' deal?

I don't have to get over a damn thing TBDH. Prince is not a YouTube friendly artist and this is still a current issue. And I'm strongly convince that the current generation of young music fans aren't being given a fair opportunity to learn their music history.

On the other hand, the former YouTube video of "Purple and Gold" now says "this video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Controversy Music." In that case I say three cheers for the Prince internet police.

Prince can turn it on or off at will, always could. He can do what he wants, he's done more than enough already and I doubt he'll ever stop, genius' don't stop generally until they die. I don't see him getting his juices flowing though when their is so much negativity about his new music. Like Tyson or Ali when they got older, people just would not overlook any little slip up because of just how dominant they were at one time. Any little slip up was a sign that all hope was lost. Same with Prince watchers. But, I say, he can do whatever he wants it's his life.

HonestMan13 said:

TonyVanDam said:

I don't have to get over a damn thing TBDH. Prince is not a YouTube friendly artist and this is still a current issue. And I'm strongly convince that the current generation of young music fans aren't being given a fair opportunity to learn their music history.

And YouTube is the place to learn music history? The same place that gave us the 'Dick Slang' and vomit videos.

If you want to learn about any artist that were BEFORE your time, just use to YouTube search engine and look it up.

Good grief HonestMan, are you that naive?

Paris9748430 said:

HonestMan13 said:

And YouTube is the place to learn music history? The same place that gave us the 'Dick Slang' and vomit videos.

Plus, Youtube isn't the only video site on the internet. I can google any certain Prince video I wanna see. Released or Unreleased. Live shows, etc.

It annoys the shit outta me when folks act like Youtube is the only game in town.

Kids can also go on Spotify and listen to Prince's music.

Prince's music isn't non-existant on the internet. You don't have to do much searching to find it, either.

Excuse you, but I know Dailymotion & bittorrent all too well.

HonestMan13 said:

TonyVanDam said:

I don't have to get over a damn thing TBDH. Prince is not a YouTube friendly artist and this is still a current issue. And I'm strongly convince that the current generation of young music fans aren't being given a fair opportunity to learn their music history.

And YouTube is the place to learn music history? The same place that gave us the 'Dick Slang' and vomit videos.

Don't forget Chocolate Rain and whiny ass queen boys pretending to be a girl ("LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE! "). I only watch it for YouTube poops and reaction responses to social and political bullshit from the left lol. I still view the music but eh... Prince can do whatever with it. I don't care. He ain't screwing up. He wasn't with it anyway.