errant said:

thisisit said:

what he meant is the truth, not what he said.

if a journo has any respect for their craft, they will NOT go to print on a 'maybe'.

It is the journalist's job to print what he said. It is not the journalist's job to decipher the cluttered ramblings that are Prince's meaning.

they're not cluttered ramblings to me, maybe thats because i have ears in my mind and a brain in my heart.

i find it amazing that some of you support lazy and careless journalists, in a day and age where they screw up the truth so badly, you could almost soley blame them, and the fools who believe whatever they read, for ruining collective consciousness and turning into a pile of ignorant mud.

y'all on some anti-prince tirade, calling him crazy. check ur own logic first maybe, ask urself if it's sane to spend ur time hating on him on an effing fan site.

I thought this thread lost it's juice by now! Damn ppl!

joker said:

Prince is the George Lucas of the music industry!

I can really see that:

Both from small American towns
Both from a similar era
Both became huge around the same time, pretty much owning the 1980s
Both fiercely independent mavericks
Both known for being somewhat reclusive control freaks
Both created their own 'empires'
Both love to tamper with their classic works much to the annoyance of the fan base...

So many similarities!!

The only difference is, I can't imagine George ever saying something as stupid and naive as Prince's latest comments!

thisisit said:

errant said:

It is the journalist's job to print what he said. It is not the journalist's job to decipher the cluttered ramblings that are Prince's meaning.

they're not cluttered ramblings to me, maybe thats because i have ears in my mind and a brain in my heart.

i find it amazing that some of you support lazy and careless journalists, in a day and age where they screw up the truth so badly, you could almost soley blame them, and the fools who believe whatever they read, for ruining collective consciousness and turning into a pile of ignorant mud.

y'all on some anti-prince tirade, calling him crazy. check ur own logic first maybe, ask urself if it's sane to spend ur time hating on him on an effing fan site.

If Prince feels that he was misquoted or misunderstood,why doesn't he issue a statement clarifying what he really meant? On another thread,I asked "Do celebrities even *think* before they say something?" Do they take time to consider the fact that what they say could be controversial,offensive to some,or just plain stupid? There's been alot of recent examples of these people making fools of themselves with their ridiculous comments.

SoulAlive said:

If Prince feels that he was misquoted or misunderstood,why doesn't he issue a statement clarifying what he really meant?

why should he?

thisisit said:

errant said:

It is the journalist's job to print what he said. It is not the journalist's job to decipher the cluttered ramblings that are Prince's meaning.

they're not cluttered ramblings to me, maybe thats because i have ears in my mind and a brain in my heart.

i find it amazing that some of you support lazy and careless journalists, in a day and age where they screw up the truth so badly, you could almost soley blame them, and the fools who believe whatever they read, for ruining collective consciousness and turning into a pile of ignorant mud.

y'all on some anti-prince tirade, calling him crazy. check ur own logic first maybe, ask urself if it's sane to spend ur time hating on him on an effing fan site.

Right now, you're the only one rambling here...

thisisit said:

they're not cluttered ramblings to me, maybe thats because i have ears in my mind and a brain in my heart.

When was the last time you checked a medical journal, 1700 BC?

thisisit said:

they're not cluttered ramblings to me, maybe thats because i have ears in my mind and a brain in my heart.

You should probably get that looked at.

^ Snap!

thisisit said:

SoulAlive said:

If Prince feels that he was misquoted or misunderstood,why doesn't he issue a statement clarifying what he really meant?

why should he?

Oh,I don't know.....maybe to put an end to all this crazy speculation,ridiculous headlines and media hype that's not even focused on the music?

SoulAlive said:

thisisit said:

why should he?

Oh,I don't know.....maybe to put an end to all this crazy speculation,ridiculous headlines and media hype that's not even focused on the music?

Exactly. If he just wants to get his name in the headlines there are plenty of other crazy things he could have said that wouldn't upset people as much. Talk about the connection between chemtrails and Captain Crunch.

Tea, anyone??

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SoulAlive said:

thisisit said:

why should he?

Oh,I don't know.....maybe to put an end to all this crazy speculation,ridiculous headlines and media hype that's not even focused on the music?

thats your job.

ya'll need 2 relax Prince is still gonna make music for a long time ... and he will share it with us

TheDigitalGardener said:

Tea, anyone??

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I'll have some, thanks.

What's the record for the number of pages in a Prince: Music and More thread? Have we broken it yet?

^ Possibly.

TheDigitalGardener said:

^ Possibly.

Will the thread eventually freeze up if we post too many messages, like the kill screen in Donkey Kong? That would be cool.

electricberet said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

^ Possibly.

Will the thread eventually freeze up if we post too many messages, like the kill screen in Donkey Kong? That would be cool.

It's the sticky that never was.

TheDigitalGardener said:

electricberet said:

Will the thread eventually freeze up if we post too many messages, like the kill screen in Donkey Kong? That would be cool.

It's the sticky that never was.

The people's sticky!

PurplePartyman said:

One of these days I will learn to stop reading Prince interviews. Does the burka comment surprise any of us really? Prince has kinda almways made it clear where he stands on "a woman's place".

But the level of hypocrisy as always. Bitching about covers? Joni Mitchell, Foo Fighters, Bonnie Raitt, Joan Osbourne should all be lining up to slap him for that comment. And I dare him to tell Chaka Khan he hates her cover of I Feel For You. Chaka MAD!!! Chaka REAL MAD!!!!

If he means he prefers the sound quality of CD's to mp3.. I am with him on that. But that isn't what he said.. as usual.

So I wanna see Prince give it all up and go live in a third world country, not just be a tourist. Give up the "Amex", the clothes, all the nice stuff and see how happy he is being "free". That'd be some fuel for songwriting alright.

Why do you make it so damn hard to be a fan! Makes me want to start shouting "Prince Is Dead" all over again.

I guess this means no 20Ten Deluxe Edition either... knew that was a bust from the word go. Why can't he be like my other favorite band Pink Floyd and announce a remaster strategy with material to make my head spin? Oh right.. the past is bad. Whatever. Passing the soapbox to the left hand side...

His whole argument about publishing is that he has no say in the matter who covers some of his songs. I think there's more than one publisher for his body of work.

Buying music digitally is something that has only recently begun to turn a profit. The recording industry was too slow in signing off on legal downloads, it's been out there since '98-'99. The Beatles made a huge profit off of the box sets as well as selling their music online. They don't need the money, but McCartney and the others know this is how people buy their music.

The recording industry didn't take a loss due to piracy as much as it did to people who stopped buying back catalogs and reissues. Once people figured out how to rip their CDs, they didn't need to play their CDs anymore. They have a pristine copy that they'll just copy when the burned disc gets scratched. They either put them away in the closet or sold them off to a resale shop. Prince also lost a lot of sales to the people reselling his music - Garth Brooks tried to fight that one.

Artists are now selling/distributing lossless audio, so the CD is better than digital download argument doesn't hold water. Hard drives are a lot larger than when ipods first came on the market. Prince can put his entire back catalog on an ipod in lossless and just throw in a free download or two.

But what he would be able to do is have the purchaser agree to not copy or distribute the music, there would be digital footprints that the company can find who posted the song. They'd just get their service cut and would have to pay a fine to restore the service. It's kind of creepy but they'd have access to your credit card info and the thought of a fine immediately on my credit card would discourage me from sharing my music on a blogsite or file share site.

Blu Ray Audio is here. Pink Floyd is including Blu Ray in the upcoming box sets, which is going to contain the full length albums as well as never seen footage. I think when Prince does his reissues, the Deluxe Editions should be Blu-Ray, CD, and a lossless digital copy, and all of them should have a bonus DVD containing promos, live footage, interviews, and even a "making of" mini documentary.

I think it's a good time for him to put creating new music on hold, if it means starting to mine through the old stuff.

But he should have put out a 2CD/1DVD collection of his post Warners material, and then start rolling out the reissues.

TheDigitalGardener said:

Tea, anyone??

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A splash of milk, no sugar, ta.

the hypocrisy of the man beggars belief. jw is a fundamental religion that doesn't allow for even the possibility of the existence of another god. so he might as well have said "it's fun being in godless countries". for all the people saying prince has always been religious, bullshit, what religion did he belong to in the 80s? he preached spirituality but adhered to no strict dogmatic religion, that's why i as an atheist shouted "yes" during the lovesexy shows. prince has said that he didn't read the bible in detail til the time he hooked up with larry, his mean spiritedness seems to coincide with the time he started his daily 8 hour studies of the old testament.

robertgeorgeakabob said:

the hypocrisy of the man beggars belief. jw is a fundamental religion that doesn't allow for even the possibility of the existence of another god. so he might as well have said "it's fun being in godless countries". for all the people saying prince has always been religious, bullshit, what religion did he belong to in the 80s? he preached spirituality but adhered to no strict dogmatic religion, that's why i as an atheist shouted "yes" during the lovesexy shows. prince has said that he didn't read the bible in detail til the time he hooked up with larry, his mean spiritedness seems to coincide with the time he started his daily 8 hour studies of the old testament.

Christianity and Islam both believe in the same invisible super hero daddy from outterspace.

NouveauDance said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

the hypocrisy of the man beggars belief. jw is a fundamental religion that doesn't allow for even the possibility of the existence of another god. so he might as well have said "it's fun being in godless countries". for all the people saying prince has always been religious, bullshit, what religion did he belong to in the 80s? he preached spirituality but adhered to no strict dogmatic religion, that's why i as an atheist shouted "yes" during the lovesexy shows. prince has said that he didn't read the bible in detail til the time he hooked up with larry, his mean spiritedness seems to coincide with the time he started his daily 8 hour studies of the old testament.

Christianity and Islam both believe in the same invisible super hero daddy from outterspace.

And Judaism, too.

NouveauDance said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

the hypocrisy of the man beggars belief. jw is a fundamental religion that doesn't allow for even the possibility of the existence of another god. so he might as well have said "it's fun being in godless countries". for all the people saying prince has always been religious, bullshit, what religion did he belong to in the 80s? he preached spirituality but adhered to no strict dogmatic religion, that's why i as an atheist shouted "yes" during the lovesexy shows. prince has said that he didn't read the bible in detail til the time he hooked up with larry, his mean spiritedness seems to coincide with the time he started his daily 8 hour studies of the old testament.

Christianity and Islam both believe in the same invisible super hero daddy from outterspace.

not true. jehovah and allah are not the same super hero daddy from outtaspace, the koran and bibles depiction of god are vastly different. i'm reminded of the time when jermaine jackson appeared on never mind the buzzcocks just after he became a muslim

simon amstell "didn't you used to be a jehovah's witness?"

jermaine "yeah, but now i'm a muslim"

simon amstell "oh well, they're both right!"

robertgeorgeakabob said:

NouveauDance said:

Christianity and Islam both believe in the same invisible super hero daddy from outterspace.

not true. jehovah and allah are not the same super hero daddy from outtaspace, the koran and bibles depiction of god are vastly different. i'm reminded of the time when jermaine jackson appeared on never mind the buzzcocks just after he became a muslim

simon amstell "didn't you used to be a jehovah's witness?"

jermaine "yeah, but now i'm a muslim"

simon amstell "oh well, they're both right!"

Jermaine Jackson is a muslim? Wonder what Katherine thinks of that?

robertgeorgeakabob said:

NouveauDance said:

Christianity and Islam both believe in the same invisible super hero daddy from outterspace.

not true. jehovah and allah are not the same super hero daddy from outtaspace, the koran and bibles depiction of god are vastly different. i'm reminded of the time when jermaine jackson appeared on never mind the buzzcocks just after he became a muslim

simon amstell "didn't you used to be a jehovah's witness?"

jermaine "yeah, but now i'm a muslim"

simon amstell "oh well, they're both right!"

They're the same dude - Allah is just the arabic word for God, YHWH is one of his names in Judaism, transliterated to Jehovah/Yahweh. If the Qur'an and Bible depict him differently, well that's why they're different offshot religions, but it's the same spiteful, jealous, petty and contradictory...... wait a minute, no wonder Prince likes him so much!

NouveauDance said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

not true. jehovah and allah are not the same super hero daddy from outtaspace, the koran and bibles depiction of god are vastly different. i'm reminded of the time when jermaine jackson appeared on never mind the buzzcocks just after he became a muslim

simon amstell "didn't you used to be a jehovah's witness?"

jermaine "yeah, but now i'm a muslim"

simon amstell "oh well, they're both right!"

They're the same dude - Allah is just the arabic word for God, YHWH is one of his names in Judaism, transliterated to Jehovah/Yahweh. If the Qur'an and Bible depict him differently, well that's why they're different offshot religions, but it's the same spiteful, jealous, petty and contradictory...... wait a minute, no wonder Prince likes him so much!

i appreciate what you're saying, let's not get lost in the pedantics. both religions have used god (who let's face it doesn't exist in the 1st place) as a concept to fuel their own idiosyncratic, insular hatred and intolerance. totally agree with your last comment, prince has found a god that reflects his own personality. did he mean a word of lovesexy??? am i a twat for believing in him then??? i don't know what to do, i think i'll read catcher in the rye and then consider my actions!

toejam said:

If what Dorian said is true (that Prince's comments were not taken out of context), then the correct course of action for Prince to take should be to apologise. He should just come out and say "Yeah, I said it. It was a brain fart. I didn't really think it through. Sorry. This is what I meant to say... blah blah". That's all he has to do. Be a man about it. It's no big deal then. We all have brain farts occasionally. But his complete denial of it just reeks of suspicion IMO.

Yeah, but why does it seem like he's ALWAYS having "brain farts" when he speaks to a journalist?? Very peculiar, to say the least. Hmmm...