Religion is a terrible thing.

Prince lost his mind.

Another oddity: why would he talk about going to the White House, when he has openly opposed participating in elections, opposed voting, has said of the current president (I don't have a dog in that fight)? (And we know he doesn't like paying taxes, which he complains about incessantly in other interviews and songs and only pays after threat)

There *is* an artist-based Creative Coalition that does real lobbying work to ensure proper legal protections of artists in the industry. Prince has never participated. He has never testified before Congress (like other CC members have). He has done NOTHING to challenge or transform the system. He hasn't even attempted to work with other artists to develop any real alternatives.

The only reason why he hates the internet it is because he did not get enough subscribers/purchasers of his horrible excuse of a site LetusFUover. I bet you if he had gotten even 100,000 customers he would be hailing it as a great success.

He also hates the internet because it provides a forum (like this one) for people to openly speak their minds about his music and business decisions. This was the problem with the NPGMC--well that and a divorce which led him to dismantle and and all businesses associated with his former spouse.

He flirted with cellphone delivery of music--remember his deal with Verizon to push "Guitar"? That shit fell flat, though I'm sure he made a pretty penny from licensing, and they gave him a free commercial for an album that he did not promote in America, but instead gave away free in the very (UK) market he was touring.

At the beginning of his "Welcome 2 America" tour--an ambitious attempt to replicate 21 nights in London--he claimed there was new music he wanted his audience to hear. All we heard was "Welcome 2 America" and "Black Muse" and they were both rarely performed. In the meantime, we get the same 30 (not 300) song shuffled, sometimes with interesting and yes reinvented arrangements and solos, but the same songs nonetheless. Oh yeah, and covers. Why someone with over 40 albums worth of material feels the need to play other peoples songs completely boggles the mind, especially when he has gone on record completely dissing any body else's attempt to cover his music.

It goes on and on. His interviews do not clarify. They only contradict, obfuscate, and make him seem even more out of touch. He's right when he says, "I'm a musician... come to the show for that." He still knows how to put on a live show. Too bad he has retreated from doing anything else.

minneapolisFunq said:

Religion is a terrible thing.

Prince lost his mind.

All due respect, but that doesn't mean anything. Which religions are "terrible things"? All of them? Have you studied all religions or for that matter any religions?

And what is so terrible about it? The whole discipline part? The whole worshipping a deity part? Not all religions have gods, not all religions follow the same structure or commandments.

Sure many religions share familiar ideas like treating others with respect, discouraging murder, theft, hurting one another. Is the good part or the bad part?

And yes, many wars have been fought in the name of religious intolerance. Many more wars have been waged for wealth, power, land, or influence.

Whitnail said:

Read the full interview

^ thanks!

Read the full interview from The Guardian here on page 9 in this thread too.

(nice to see the full pic to this article!).....

the article in Le Parisian (spelled) is better tho, less "sensational" like this...

I still think The Guardian has sharpenned some of what Prince might have said differently. If you compare with Le Parisian.

I think it's all clear, that Prince got mis-quoted - if you read the french article on :

http://www.drfunkenberry....-2-prince/

thedance said:

Whitnail said:

Read the full interview

^ thanks!

Read the full interview from The Guardian here on page 9 in this thread too.

(nice to see the full pic to this article!).....

the article in Le Parisian (spelled) is better tho, less "sensational" like this...

I still think The Guardian has sharpenned some of what Prince might have said differently. If you compare with Le Parisian.

I think it's all clear, that Prince got mis-quoted - if you read the french article on :

http://www.drfunkenberry....-2-prince/

You think the one that was run through a translator from French to English is the one with the more accurate quotes?

^ I would say YES, definitely.

But judge yourself (to those who might not have seen the french article)...

http://www.drfunkenberry.com/2011/06/24/2-sides-2-every-story-when-it-comes-2-prince/

.

[Edited 6/25/11 23:35pm]

Whitnail said:

Whitnail said:

Read the full interview

This whole topic discussed here has played on my mind since I saw it first posted, looking at some of the replies posted has left me numb...a handful are actually interesting and engage discussion in a human manner, but the rest is pitiful, thoughtless comments and statements made by people who surround their lives with soap opera...very very shallow.

I dont like to judge people, but what I have read here on this topic/post, shows humanity is in full di-gression rather than progression. (of course this is based on the fact that I would use the odd 800 replies as a basis for a scientific study)

Just remember one small thing, Opinion should not be confused with freedom or freedom of speech...

"

So, If you have formed an opinion of me by now, I would advise you to put this down and fuck off back to your irrelevant life. But just remember ONE thing, it is your stupid fucking opinion that invented me." JJG

If you do not like to judge people, then why is your first paragraph nothing but judgment. Typical hypocrital religious folk.

Whitnail said:

I dont like to judge people, but what I have read here on this topic/post, shows humanity is in full di-gression rather than progression.

You base your understanding of humanity on org comments?? That's hilarious!

thedance said:

^ I would say YES, definitely.

But judge yourself (to those who might not have seen the french article)...

http://www.drfunkenberry.com/2011/06/24/2-sides-2-every-story-when-it-comes-2-prince/

.

[Edited 6/25/11 23:35pm]

I read it. Again: you really think that an interview done in English, translated to French, then translated back to English is more accurate representation of his quotes? And where is the link to the actual interview from Le Parisien?

Spinlight said:

Whitnail said:

This whole topic discussed here has played on my mind since I saw it first posted, looking at some of the replies posted has left me numb...a handful are actually interesting and engage discussion in a human manner, but the rest is pitiful, thoughtless comments and statements made by people who surround their lives with soap opera...very very shallow.

I dont like to judge people, but what I have read here on this topic/post, shows humanity is in full di-gression rather than progression. (of course this is based on the fact that I would use the odd 800 replies as a basis for a scientific study)

If you do not like to judge people, then why is your first paragraph nothing but judgment. Typical hypocrital religious folk.

Ahhh, but you missed the 'but' - "I don't like to judge people, BUT..."

It's right up there with "I'm not racist, but..." and "I'm not homophobic, but..."

errant said:

And where is the link to the actual interview from Le Parisien?

http://www.leparisien.fr/...506286.php

Chiquetet said:

errant said:

And where is the link to the actual interview from Le Parisien?

http://www.leparisien.fr/...506286.php

thanks! just as i suspected.

I fail to understand how the comments are any different. If he said it like that, he said it like that. Ain't no misunderstanding. I understand he just says things just so say it lol

NuPwrSoul said:

Another oddity: why would he talk about going to the White House, when he has openly opposed participating in elections, opposed voting, has said of the current president (I don't have a dog in that fight)? (And we know he doesn't like paying taxes, which he complains about incessantly in other interviews and songs and only pays after threat)

There *is* an artist-based Creative Coalition that does real lobbying work to ensure proper legal protections of artists in the industry. Prince has never participated. He has never testified before Congress (like other CC members have). He has done NOTHING to challenge or transform the system. He hasn't even attempted to work with other artists to develop any real alternatives.

The only reason why he hates the internet it is because he did not get enough subscribers/purchasers of his horrible excuse of a site LetusFUover. I bet you if he had gotten even 100,000 customers he would be hailing it as a great success.

He also hates the internet because it provides a forum (like this one) for people to openly speak their minds about his music and business decisions. This was the problem with the NPGMC--well that and a divorce which led him to dismantle and and all businesses associated with his former spouse.

He flirted with cellphone delivery of music--remember his deal with Verizon to push "Guitar"? That shit fell flat, though I'm sure he made a pretty penny from licensing, and they gave him a free commercial for an album that he did not promote in America, but instead gave away free in the very (UK) market he was touring.

At the beginning of his "Welcome 2 America" tour--an ambitious attempt to replicate 21 nights in London--he claimed there was new music he wanted his audience to hear. All we heard was "Welcome 2 America" and "Black Muse" and they were both rarely performed. In the meantime, we get the same 30 (not 300) song shuffled, sometimes with interesting and yes reinvented arrangements and solos, but the same songs nonetheless. Oh yeah, and covers. Why someone with over 40 albums worth of material feels the need to play other peoples songs completely boggles the mind, especially when he has gone on record completely dissing any body else's attempt to cover his music.

It goes on and on. His interviews do not clarify. They only contradict, obfuscate, and make him seem even more out of touch. He's right when he says, "I'm a musician... come to the show for that." He still knows how to put on a live show. Too bad he has retreated from doing anything else.

Again, saying it like James Brown used to say: "talking loud and saying nothing".

errant said:

thedance said:

^ I would say YES, definitely.

But judge yourself (to those who might not have seen the french article)...

http://www.drfunkenberry.com/2011/06/24/2-sides-2-every-story-when-it-comes-2-prince/

I read it. Again: you really think that an interview done in English, translated to French, then translated back to English is more accurate representation of his quotes? And where is the link to the actual interview from Le Parisien?

^

the question is who of those 2 journalists do you believe the most. They were both present at the same interview, and their 2 stories are different.

1. In Le Parisian, Prince is more saying something like "I have no plans to record another album - untill I get payed again", meaning he's is just taking a pause/ a break off from recording music.

2. And this about Muslim women are happy wearing a burqa isn't mentioned in Le Parisian, is it?

But... everyone should read and judge themselves,

imo the interview in Le Parisian is OK, not that sensational or "distubing".

ok, carry on.

[Edited 6/26/11 0:15am]

@ sweetthing,

aren't you OFF TOPIC with that post of yours???

it's dated 2009, and I don't see Prince mentioned in there.... ?

armpit said:

He hates digital music, yet he's been using poorly sounding digital synths and electric piano ever since late eighties/early nineties.

But when it comes to bounderies, I think it was more fun for him to break them when there actually were some. Lady Gaga is kind of breaking bounderies, but it just seems like she is just trying to do something extreme in every direction visually. Next thing she'll do is to eat poop while penetrating herself with a mic in every hole... letting a cd player do her ready made club production while shee's acting a freak. This is what people are doing now to break bounderies. I know Prince is too old to be a part of that shit. And even a young Prince would probably find these times a bit too much of nothing. Breaking bounderies now would be true soul with vulnurability, ultra macho funk and questioning the norms and ethics of today like extreme feminist culture.

when his interviews become a threat to national security then maybe i'll be concerned.

this threads gone on for 29 pages with only about a 5% hit-rate of respect for prince, if that.

at no point do most people take responsibility for believing whatever they read despite decades of being warned that print media journalists will rarely print in context.

honestly, what surprises me more than anything else is how prince can even be bothered talking to journalists about anything.

he doesnt need to say a word to sell tickets to his shows, and thats what he seems to be enjoying the most right now is his live gigs.

trust. who do ya? never a journalist.

thisisit said:

when his interviews become a threat to national security then maybe i'll be concerned.

this threads gone on for 29 pages with only about a 5% hit-rate of respect for prince, if that.

at no point do most people take responsibility for believing whatever they read despite decades of being warned that print media journalists will rarely print in context.

honestly, what surprises me more than anything else is how prince can even be bothered talking to journalists about anything.

he doesnt need to say a word to sell tickets to his shows, and thats what he seems to be enjoying the most right now is his live gigs.

trust. who do ya? never a journalist.

You know, there are also many reasonable people in the world.

But no one of them has recorded "Sign o' the times"...

EmancipationLover said:

You know, there are also many reasonable people in the world.

But no one of them has recorded "Sign o' the times"...

You mean Prince is one of the unreasonable people in the world?

Looks like you're right ;-(

thisisit said:

when his interviews become a threat to national security then maybe i'll be concerned.

this threads gone on for 29 pages with only about a 5% hit-rate of respect for prince, if that.

at no point do most people take responsibility for believing whatever they read despite decades of being warned that print media journalists will rarely print in context.

honestly, what surprises me more than anything else is how prince can even be bothered talking to journalists about anything.

he doesnt need to say a word to sell tickets to his shows, and thats what he seems to be enjoying the most right now is his live gigs.

trust. who do ya? never a journalist.

He apparently needs promotion. Interviews like this we don`t need.

He should better perform on TV and stop talking about religion. Or think before talking...

You said we should not trust the journalists...that`s true...But, the sad thing is that his view in this article fits exactly what he said in other interviews or in his lyrics since the rainbow children...

He is now a strict jehova witness and it seems to affect his whole life because he once was a tolerant man...He makes a fool of himself because of some of his latest interviews...digital music is bad...so i don`t release anymore music...?? häh?

linus4000 said:

thisisit said:

when his interviews become a threat to national security then maybe i'll be concerned.

this threads gone on for 29 pages with only about a 5% hit-rate of respect for prince, if that.

at no point do most people take responsibility for believing whatever they read despite decades of being warned that print media journalists will rarely print in context.

honestly, what surprises me more than anything else is how prince can even be bothered talking to journalists about anything.

he doesnt need to say a word to sell tickets to his shows, and thats what he seems to be enjoying the most right now is his live gigs.

trust. who do ya? never a journalist.

He apparently needs promotion. Interviews like this we don`t need.

He should better perform on TV and stop talking about religion. Or think before talking...

You said we should not trust the journalists...that`s true...But, the sad thing is that his view in this article fits exactly what he said in other interviews or in his lyrics since the rainbow children...

He is now a strict jehova witness and it seems to affect his whole life because he once was a tolerant man...He makes a fool of himself because of some of his latest interviews...digital music is bad...so i don`t release anymore music...?? häh?

hi linus, thats right, imo, never trust a journalist.

as for his views, if they are positive, then great. if they are not, then they have no power to affect anyone but himself.

thisisit said:

when his interviews become a threat to national security then maybe i'll be concerned.

this threads gone on for 29 pages with only about a 5% hit-rate of respect for prince, if that.

at no point do most people take responsibility for believing whatever they read despite decades of being warned that print media journalists will rarely print in context.

honestly, what surprises me more than anything else is how prince can even be bothered talking to journalists about anything.

he doesnt need to say a word to sell tickets to his shows, and thats what he seems to be enjoying the most right now is his live gigs.

trust. who do ya? never a journalist.

It is a threat to national security!!! That looney bird is talking about he's going to take his babbling to the White House. I don't want him and ESPECIALLY that Larry Graham, ANYWHERE NEAR my President.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

thisisit said:

when his interviews become a threat to national security then maybe i'll be concerned.

this threads gone on for 29 pages with only about a 5% hit-rate of respect for prince, if that.

at no point do most people take responsibility for believing whatever they read despite decades of being warned that print media journalists will rarely print in context.

honestly, what surprises me more than anything else is how prince can even be bothered talking to journalists about anything.

he doesnt need to say a word to sell tickets to his shows, and thats what he seems to be enjoying the most right now is his live gigs.

trust. who do ya? never a journalist.

It is a threat to national security!!! That looney bird is talking about he's going to take his babbling to the White House. I don't want him and ESPECIALLY that Larry Graham, ANYWHERE NEAR my President.

You've seen that footage of Obama at the Prince performance clapping his hands, right? I forget which show that was... but Oprah was there.