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With regard to your point (2), there has been no substitute event or performance. Those of us who bought tickets are supposed to get our money back tomorrow. If not, this is going to be an even bigger story. It's clear that the organizers knew they were in trouble based on the conflicting reports that went out on the day of the concert. Perhaps they were holding out hope that there would be a lot of last minute ticket purchases that would enable them to pay the hotel and the performers. The responsible thing would have been to cancel the concert and blame it on the weather.
I don't think we should let this story slide as just another cancelled concert. There are lessons that need to be learned for the future. The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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Why did Prince associate himself with these clowns in the first place? Oh yeah, because HE DOES NOT HAVE PROPER MANAGEMENT. What kind of idiot says "yes" to an event that is supposed to take place in a month and that is organised by a company with a non-existing track record? © Bart Van Hemelen
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First of all I'm sure that's why he has a manager that handles these types of dealings. Bottom line is that you don't know how truthful the event organizers were, up until the day of the event to Prince's team. There was a cancellation announced yesterday through a press release. Then it was announced that the event was back on. (see electricberet's post below) tickets.
I blame the event organizers for not being truthfully upfrontl to those who purchased tickets and should have just cancelled it altogether. In the end, after all of this, I doubt Prince and his team have anymore dealings with them. There's way too many different stories surfacing right now to say which is true. Life goes on. [Edited 2/6/11 12:51pm] | |
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(Bolded part) I agree electricberet, these organizers should have cancelled it based on low ticket sales, but like you stated, seems like they were holding out on the hope more tix would be purchased close and on the day of the event. With weather conditions the way they were yesterday, and many flights delayed/cancelled, even for many trying to get to the Superbowl. That should have been a hint to cancel the event. There's definitely many lessons to be learned from this, and I hope the event organizers will pay you and others who purchased tix for this event your money back. Seems now all this is definitely in their hands to clean up a mess they should have never allowed to happen, based on a hunch that they would be able to sell more tix.
It seems now the event organizers are embarassed and instead of coming forth, and being honest that it was their failed attempt to cancel the event ahead of time, due to their lack of organizing this event in a professional manner, maintaining their end of the business arrangments, and not having sufficient funds to pay the artists scheduled to perform that night, as well as the money for the charity promised the donations. It seems they've left it up to the press to run so many conflicting stories, and unfortunately not considering some would blame Prince for their mishandling of the event. [Edited 2/6/11 12:55pm] | |
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Bart don't stick up for him...the guy is talented enough to have turned up with a guitar and played acoustic "a la musicology"..once again this for me was a money "Thang".... | |
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sorry to hear that :-/ I agree with lessons learned, Prince should have an official site to announce these things, a large group of fans will always support him no matter where he performs, needs a better way to communicate to his fanbase | |
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Then she must have "mis-spoken or was misquoted on that quote" on this media advisory that was sent out, too. http://us2.campaign-archi...31d24e4b22
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Perhaps this will change after I post this, but right now the most recent tweet from the event organizers is that you can buy 2 tickets for the price of 1:
http://twitter.com/theeventdallas
The official webpage for the event says nothing about a cancellation:
Those of us who kept up with the org discussion knew there were problems. But we were hoping that Prince might decide to perform anyway. The official lines of communication gave no indication that there was a problem; even the rescinded cancellation was announced only by a press release, not by an email to the ticket holders. They certainly knew how to contact us, as we did get an email about the change in venue.
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Earlier in the thread people had mention $1,500 price tickets but I wonder did any of those 100 or so people that showed up had paid the $12,000 and $25,000 price/contribution???
From info earlier : “Single Ticket $1500 Contribution” includes general admission, open bar and food stations. | |
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That's another thing, that I do find very interesting.
According to the Associated Press:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...ce_concert
Why would someone in Prince's camp tell the Associated Press that "he never came to Dallas"?
Yet, there are people that were there (including your peeps)...that say he was in fact in Dallas AND actually made it to the hotel? I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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I bought two of the $1,500 tickets. That's about 10 times more than I've paid for any other concert, but I really wanted to see Prince again, and he hasn't been here since 2004. I think someone in the Concerts forum said that they were reserving one of the VIP tables.
It's sad that Prince fans should have to spend the equivalent of a mortgage payment or two to get a ticket. I was thinking of flying to New York to catch one of the shows there, but after this experience I'm not making any trips just to see him. The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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George was probably there, just probably in the back smoking a blunt "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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SCNDLS, your Hilarious and break it down to the tee!
on your #2 "Chris Arnold who was the sports reporter for the local hip-hop radio station"
Does he not do that anymore? Wasn't he with 104.5?
3. Prince was at the hotel, sitting in his limo, waiting for word that they had his money and that the place was ready to go. Of course, neither occurred so no show. Chris Arnold himself said Prince was there after announcing the cancellation. My peeps saw the two white limos, one of which EB came out of, and the other that Prince was in.
"waiting for word that they had his money and that the place was ready to go."
That doesn't sound like a Superstar, sounds like somebody just getting started/coming up in the business...
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Don't let the punk Organizers get u down about P or should you? Seems like the NYC concerts have been awesome from peoples reviews! | |
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Like I said and posted, SHE clearly changed her tune because on the day of the show she said the promoter contacted the foundation to be involved not Prince.
Considering that there's absolutely NO mention of the organizer's company shows that the promoter was totally using the foundation as a front to draw people into coming to the show. When, in reality, this was a for profit event. [Edited 2/6/11 14:07pm] | |||||||||||||||
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They shoulda cancelled on Monday when they moved the event. They must've known they hadn't sold enough tix to pay for his fees/expenses, the hotel PLUS having to pay for all of the costs/rentals associated with tent locale, which was a dumb idea from jump. [Edited 2/6/11 14:04pm] | |
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I'm sure they have been awesome. But wasn't one of them cancelled? I wouldn't want to pay for plane tickets and a hotel and then have the concert be cancelled. You might get the money back on the tickets but not the other expenses. There's also the time factor involved. It's one thing to take an evening off for a concert; it's another thing to take several days off for it. That's why someone came up with the concept of a tour where the artist goes to different cities around the world to bring his music to the people. Prince used to do some of those. The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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One thing for Dayum sure one of the comments off of Yahoo! got me fired up. May even launch me a new career off of it. And this is the exact quote was:
"The concert was canceled because everybody know that black people in Dallas don't have any money"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...ce_concert
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Actually, the image of P waiting on his money reminds me of Aretha (cuz that's some gangsta shit the queen would do) and the character Don Cheadle played in Ocean's 13 who wanted his money in caaaaaaaash.
Chris was released from the radio station back in April. So, I guess he came up with concert promoting as a side hustle. | |
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For Real!
And Chris use to be with 104.5 not 97.9 right? | |
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Yeah, k104 for 14 years. They got rid of Sam Putney too. But I don't care. I don't listen to radio and that morning team made my ass itch. A HUGE benefit of working at home is that I don't have to listent to drive-time, morning radio. | |
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Well, considering that...
before bailing out, just hours before showtime.
I have to say...in reality? It certainly doesn't seem like Prince...himself...wasn't in it...just for the profit.
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And what's wrong with that? He agreed to do a show for a certain price. He held up his end of the bargain and appeared. He didn't agree to work for free.
In contrast, this "group" used a charitable foundation as their front in all communications, never letting concertgoers know another entity was running everything and handling the money and only giving the foundation a SMALL amount (I'm hearing 10%) of the proceeds. The first time we heard about this RAG and the REAL relationship with the foundation was the day of the show. That's tantamount to deceptive practices IMO. P wasn't deceptive, the promoter was.
And like I said earlier, EVEN if P and EB wanted to perform, which I know SHE did, the hotel wouldn't allow it because they had not been paid. [Edited 2/6/11 14:35pm] | |
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That's the story that was on the Yahoo front page for a while. I guess Prince can take some comfort in the fact that he's still famous enough to make news around the world by canceling a concert. The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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It sounds as if the Promoter tried to make a big play and fumbled the ball. The concept was not bad, timing was off and then there was the unexpected, mother nature and Dallas' unpreparedness to deal with the snow. (Which was reported on another site--apparently affected SEVERAL events related to the Superbowl.) One month to plan and execute an event with lofty "goals" really is not enough time.
All of this made a perfect storm
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IKR!!! People say some of the most ignorant things when they think they know something.
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And I'm not buying that the weather had ANY impact on this. If they hadn't sold more that a few 100 tix by Monday, when they changed the location, there's no way in hell they woulda sold significantly more in four days before the show, even with good weather. They woulda needed to sell at least 666 tix @ 1500 to get P's million, not to mention a whole lot more to pay the expenses. This is what happens when you have an amateur trynna do big things.
Another thing, there were several events that went on just fine in tents despite the weather. Even the one at fair park where the tent was torn down on Wednesday in the storm. [Edited 2/6/11 14:45pm] | |
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How about this for a solution: Prince comes back to Dallas, holds a normal concert with reasonably priced tickets at the American Airlines Center (which he sold out the last time he came here), and lets the Goss-Michael scholarship winners perform as part of the concert. Everybody's happy. PR problem solved. What do you think? The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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