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Reply #870 posted 06/11/10 1:17pm

PurplePartyman

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Wow you guys my head hurts from reading all this heated jabbing back and forth over one song.

So he made a song. Either you like it, or you don't. But when people are arguing for page sna dpages over whether it was a major release, or intended as a statement, etc.. It's just a song people!!

SRRRLSY!

The great thing about music is that once it's out there, it's subjective. I wonder what it would have looked like if the intenet existed when "Gett Off" came out.Or even "Alphabet Street". Would we be losing sleep over whether or not a leaked version was proper, then criticizing each other, etc. Life's too short guys! People are dying. Oil is ruining an ocean. People are starving. I'm as big of a geeked out fan about songs as the next person, but if your blood pressure is now 5 times higher from discussing "Hot Summer", maybe it's time to go outside.

Personally, I think the song is ok. It's not an insti-classic in my ears, but it it's catchy enough to be stuck in my head. Is it a demo? Is it not? Wasn't Dirty Mind mostly demos? I'm thinking "ok great.. now what's he gonna put out next?"

Personally with a lot of his narrow-minded views (in my eyes) he's put forth (usually allegedly) veering towards homophobia and mysogyny, and views in his faith I just can't follow (like not believing in modern medicine and some things that are plain common sense to me) it's much harder for me to accept new music with open arms and without a feeling in the pit of my stomach.

"Hot Summer" didn't beat me over the head with dogma. It's a simple little feel good jam. Maybe sometimes we just expect too much out of our idols and heroes. Prince is human too.. he's not infallible. That doesn't mean I have to love everything he releases. But I gotta say I like "Hot Summer" better than Ke$ha or a lot of songs on teh radio right now. Is that bad?

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Reply #871 posted 06/11/10 1:26pm

Elle85n09

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hollywooddove said:

ernestsewell said:

falloff falloff falloff lol lol lol rolleyes

ah... I was out with a client today and I was wearing my Lotusflower T shirt (that some of you never got) and he said, oh that's a cool T, and he read the back, and he said, I will have to check out that web site....

I stayed quiet.

Hollywooddove you are so bad. lol

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Reply #872 posted 06/11/10 1:27pm

olskooljamz

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Great track - love it.

cool

Somewhere Here On Earth
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Reply #873 posted 06/11/10 1:36pm

NDRU

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It's very "meh"

I don't hate it or love it, I guess it could grow on me. But I can't see arguing about a blandly pleasant song like this one. I'm going to crack a Modelo & lime instead.

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Reply #874 posted 06/11/10 1:47pm

muleFunk

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PurplePartyman said:

Wow you guys my head hurts from reading all this heated jabbing back and forth over one song.

So he made a song. Either you like it, or you don't. But when people are arguing for page sna dpages over whether it was a major release, or intended as a statement, etc.. It's just a song people!!

SRRRLSY!

The great thing about music is that once it's out there, it's subjective. I wonder what it would have looked like if the intenet existed when "Gett Off" came out.Or even "Alphabet Street". Would we be losing sleep over whether or not a leaked version was proper, then criticizing each other, etc. Life's too short guys! People are dying. Oil is ruining an ocean. People are starving. I'm as big of a geeked out fan about songs as the next person, but if your blood pressure is now 5 times higher from discussing "Hot Summer", maybe it's time to go outside.

Personally, I think the song is ok. It's not an insti-classic in my ears, but it it's catchy enough to be stuck in my head. Is it a demo? Is it not? Wasn't Dirty Mind mostly demos? I'm thinking "ok great.. now what's he gonna put out next?"

Personally with a lot of his narrow-minded views (in my eyes) he's put forth (usually allegedly) veering towards homophobia and mysogyny, and views in his faith I just can't follow (like not believing in modern medicine and some things that are plain common sense to me) it's much harder for me to accept new music with open arms and without a feeling in the pit of my stomach.

"Hot Summer" didn't beat me over the head with dogma. It's a simple little feel good jam. Maybe sometimes we just expect too much out of our idols and heroes. Prince is human too.. he's not infallible. That doesn't mean I have to love everything he releases. But I gotta say I like "Hot Summer" better than Ke$ha or a lot of songs on teh radio right now. Is that bad?

People are unhappy and they want other people to be unhappy too.

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Reply #875 posted 06/11/10 3:25pm

PurpleKnight

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muleFunk said:

PurplePartyman said:

Wow you guys my head hurts from reading all this heated jabbing back and forth over one song.

So he made a song. Either you like it, or you don't. But when people are arguing for page sna dpages over whether it was a major release, or intended as a statement, etc.. It's just a song people!!

SRRRLSY!

The great thing about music is that once it's out there, it's subjective. I wonder what it would have looked like if the intenet existed when "Gett Off" came out.Or even "Alphabet Street". Would we be losing sleep over whether or not a leaked version was proper, then criticizing each other, etc. Life's too short guys! People are dying. Oil is ruining an ocean. People are starving. I'm as big of a geeked out fan about songs as the next person, but if your blood pressure is now 5 times higher from discussing "Hot Summer", maybe it's time to go outside.

Personally, I think the song is ok. It's not an insti-classic in my ears, but it it's catchy enough to be stuck in my head. Is it a demo? Is it not? Wasn't Dirty Mind mostly demos? I'm thinking "ok great.. now what's he gonna put out next?"

Personally with a lot of his narrow-minded views (in my eyes) he's put forth (usually allegedly) veering towards homophobia and mysogyny, and views in his faith I just can't follow (like not believing in modern medicine and some things that are plain common sense to me) it's much harder for me to accept new music with open arms and without a feeling in the pit of my stomach.

"Hot Summer" didn't beat me over the head with dogma. It's a simple little feel good jam. Maybe sometimes we just expect too much out of our idols and heroes. Prince is human too.. he's not infallible. That doesn't mean I have to love everything he releases. But I gotta say I like "Hot Summer" better than Ke$ha or a lot of songs on teh radio right now. Is that bad?

People are unhappy and they want other people to be unhappy too.

That is a rather baseless claim to make.

The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

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Reply #876 posted 06/11/10 3:53pm

Purpracer2

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Purpracer2 said:

In No way is this directed at any person(s) in this room. Just a funny lyric I wrote after I took a Lortab for my back pain, kinda' funny, and hopefully it should be taken this way. This will Not be added to my over ten thousand songs I've written. LoveLightPeace(+>

“Hot Orger”

By PurpleRacer A song that does not express MY feelings. razz

Oh, Hot Orger!…

Really don’t know why I’m still here,

The new music is something that I fear…

Waiting patient for something new to hear,

But only ignorant rants appear, I’m gonna’ be a…

Hot Orger:

Give your free music to me…

Hot Orger:

Don’t “U” know that “U” owe me…

Hot Orger:

No longer do “U” deserve a crown…

Hot Orger:

The only beat is my hateful sound… Hot Orger!

Been around for a long, long time-

Upside down, turned from sign to sign…

Don’t care what they call your name,

All I know is that you’re outta’ the game… Oh!

Chorus

Got some nerve, think you better serve,

Something funky sliding down the curb…

Want to crank your tunes to let all know,

But “U’ve” lost it, yet that sounds so cold.. But I’m a…

Chorus

Don’t U know U owe me an explanation?

Check with me before you release another expectation…

I know what’s cool, and U sho’ ain’t hot,

Don’t really know if I’m a fan, fam or not! But I’m a…

Chorus… End.

That so funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!falloff Prince's song sounds better (no fam alert)

[Edited 6/11/10 13:06pm]

I totally agree!! I love the new song myself. I was just making some irritating comments to others who disliked it, to which I have apologized. I just thought that it would be 'fun' to write something similar to "Hot Summer" but from the orger's point of view that doesn't like any of Prince's new music. Not to offend, just to have 'fun' since we all gotta' die someday. smile. I do have a mean guitar rip to the words on this!! LOL. Maybe I'll record it for fun. smile

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Reply #877 posted 06/11/10 4:16pm

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NDRU said:

It's very "meh"

I don't hate it or love it, I guess it could grow on me. But I can't see arguing about a blandly pleasant song like this one. I'm going to crack a Modelo & lime instead.

Over Someone's head? lol

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Reply #878 posted 06/11/10 4:25pm

thaCONcept

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I figured it out Y everyone dislike the song.
Prince fans, real fans longtime hardcore fans HATE it because they know its simple and beneath him and is NOT EVEN CLOSE 2 any of his MASTER WORKS.

Non-Prince fans hate it because they hate Prince and pretty much hate everything he does. Unless it becomes a massive hit and then people turn around and say. Oooh I love Prince. I loved him since "Purple Rain" days.....

If this song came out by Miley Cyrus or The Jonas Brothers or alike it would be a massive SUMMER HIT!!!
It is not without its flaws (cheesy Bongo drum fill, weak hook, strange intro) but it is exactly what it means 2 b....
A simple Summer old Skool pop/rock throwaway.
People R really 2 hard on Prince and 2 hard on this track. Maybe I will feel different when I realize the ENTIRE CD is this weak, but 4 now ill give my man Prince the benefit of the doubt. Lighten up and listen 2 the GIGANTIC INFLUENCE of the group - THE CARS!

oooohhh HOT SUMMER!

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Reply #879 posted 06/11/10 5:09pm

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Finally heard the song...

IT'S HOT!!!!!!!!!!

This should be spinning on the radio here in L.A.!!!!!!

cool

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Reply #880 posted 06/11/10 5:26pm

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This has to be an ad for the European shows.

There is no way this is the best song he can come up with these days. I can't believe that.

Sure we all know it's not 1987 but he can definitely come up with better songs than this, LF was only 2 years ago and there is some decent work on there so we know it is still possible.

If this turns out to be the lead single and standout track for the new album I might change my mind smile

hard to believe been on the org for over 20 years now!
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Reply #881 posted 06/11/10 6:05pm

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FunkyStrange said:

This has to be an ad for the European shows.

There is no way this is the best song he can come up with these days. I can't believe that.

Sure we all know it's not 1987 but he can definitely come up with better songs than this, LF was only 2 years ago and there is some decent work on there so we know it is still possible.

If this turns out to be the lead single and standout track for the new album I might change my mind smile

To my ears it sounds like a companion song to your favourite Prince song ever, "The Morning After." razz

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Reply #882 posted 06/11/10 7:47pm

violetblues

thaCONcept said:

I figured it out Y everyone dislike the song.
Prince fans, real fans longtime hardcore fans HATE it because they know its simple and beneath him and is NOT EVEN CLOSE 2 any of his MASTER WORKS.

Non-Prince fans hate it because they hate Prince and pretty much hate everything he does. Unless it becomes a massive hit and then people turn around and say. Oooh I love Prince. I loved him since "Purple Rain" days.....

If this song came out by Miley Cyrus or The Jonas Brothers or alike it would be a massive SUMMER HIT!!!
It is not without its flaws (cheesy Bongo drum fill, weak hook, strange intro) but it is exactly what it means 2 b....
A simple Summer old Skool pop/rock throwaway.
People R really 2 hard on Prince and 2 hard on this track. Maybe I will feel different when I realize the ENTIRE CD is this weak, but 4 now ill give my man Prince the benefit of the doubt. Lighten up and listen 2 the GIGANTIC INFLUENCE of the group - THE CARS!

oooohhh HOT SUMMER!

7

I agree with most of what you say here, especially the "cheesy bongo drum fill" lol, what on earth?

But as someone who is made to bear listening to a top 40 station when i drive in a girlfrieds car, let me tell you this song would not touch the top of charts, Miley baby and the Jonas bro's have a seasoned pros behind the scenes making sure this type of mess didn't make the cut and derailed their money train.

........and as a long time Cars fans I take great insult in that connection, their hooks were not just strong but almost over the top, sometimes cheesy but never bongo drum fill cheesy hmph!

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Reply #883 posted 06/11/10 7:50pm

NuPwrSoul

Rorywan said:

NuPwrSoul said:

His last major release--Lotusflow3r/MPLSound/Elixir--I had problems with and was very critical of, especially the poor vocal performance of Bria on Elixir and the failed attempts at swagger on MPLSound. But there were plenty great moments, both technical and artistic, in that set released just a little over a year ago. Enough to challenge any claim of him "floundering."

Are there things I wish he'd do more? Wish he'd do less? Yes. Do I think his lyrics need to be more humanistic and less theistic? Yes. Are his preaching answers far less attractive than his asking questions? Yes. Is there more in my list of what I hope to hear / see from him in the future? Yes.

I was not a fan of "Purple and Gold" nor of "Cause and Effect." "Hot Summer" is just ok--not horribly bad nor amazingly great. But... I'll wait for the next serious/major/complete project before making the claim that he is floundering. I don't count any of those three as the basis for that determination.

Again, we agree on almost everything. The floundering comment of course is mine alone. Thats just the impression I have gotten from the material he has released lately, it feels to me at least he has lost his musical voice. Don't get me wrong, I think the man is and always will be a musical genius. But of late, well he doesn't seem to know who he is. The tracks all sound like they are trying to be tracks from his back catalogue. Except without the bite, without the smart and crazy lyrics, without the personality? Thats why I say he is floundering.

Prince was never mediocre. Now he has aged. He is no longer at the top of his game. I still enjoy his releases. I just wish he would start writing from the heart again. And I do feel he has been gagged by his new choice in religion.

neutral

I miss those things too. sad

I was just listening to "Face Down" the other day--a track I wasn't particularly fond of when it first came out... but the lyrics are hilarious, witty, creative, and feature Prince's own special unique brand of swagger. "Prince and the Band" has that. But even more recently so does "P.F.U.N.K." Here's to hoping he gets his swag back. pray

"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #884 posted 06/11/10 10:44pm

andrewm7

New music = Andrew Happy cool

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Reply #885 posted 06/11/10 11:54pm

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wasitgood4u said:

I agree with NPS that it's all about expectations and criteria. I listened a few times last night and was disappointed and thought the song substandard.

I'm re-listening now thinking I'd be growing to hate it, but it's... OK.

I do agree though, that the argument that these are "just" throw-aways is hard to justify with P's tight control of his output. I think that the best comparisons are things like Cybersingle, Radical Man, the demo of Guitar. I think that you can easily put C&E and Hot Summer in those categories and, if so, I think that they are in the same league but fall a bit short (especially Hot Summer - I found C&E interesting).

Are you really comparing Hot Summer to 2045: Radical Man? That song was innovative, and slinky, and funky. That song made me realize that Prince was still capable of surprising me and thrilling me with a few minutes of music. Hot Summer on the other hand....well, I was pleased that I listened to it all the way through without becoming disgusted, like the 2 songs that preceded it this year. And I've even listened to it a few times this week...but I'm already tremendously bored with it, and I've heard it less than a dozen times total. I can (and do) still listen to Radical Man, 10 years or so after it was released, and enjoy the lyrics, and the sounds. I know for sure I won't be listening to Hot Summer in 2020.

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Reply #886 posted 06/12/10 1:39am

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NuPwrSoul said:

Rorywan said:

Again, we agree on almost everything. The floundering comment of course is mine alone. Thats just the impression I have gotten from the material he has released lately, it feels to me at least he has lost his musical voice. Don't get me wrong, I think the man is and always will be a musical genius. But of late, well he doesn't seem to know who he is. The tracks all sound like they are trying to be tracks from his back catalogue. Except without the bite, without the smart and crazy lyrics, without the personality? Thats why I say he is floundering.

Prince was never mediocre. Now he has aged. He is no longer at the top of his game. I still enjoy his releases. I just wish he would start writing from the heart again. And I do feel he has been gagged by his new choice in religion.

neutral

I miss those things too. sad

I was just listening to "Face Down" the other day--a track I wasn't particularly fond of when it first came out... but the lyrics are hilarious, witty, creative, and feature Prince's own special unique brand of swagger. "Prince and the Band" has that. But even more recently so does "P.F.U.N.K." Here's to hoping he gets his swag back. pray

Totally agree. I love that about "Face Down" as well. It's like an unbridled energy. Yeah I thought PFunk was the best thing he had done in ages. It sounded like he had something to say as well.

Heres hopin!

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Reply #887 posted 06/12/10 4:00am

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PurplePartyman said:

Wow you guys my head hurts from reading all this heated jabbing back and forth over one song.

So he made a song. Either you like it, or you don't. But when people are arguing for page sna dpages over whether it was a major release, or intended as a statement, etc.. It's just a song people!!

SRRRLSY!

The great thing about music is that once it's out there, it's subjective. I wonder what it would have looked like if the intenet existed when "Gett Off" came out.Or even "Alphabet Street". Would we be losing sleep over whether or not a leaked version was proper, then criticizing each other, etc. Life's too short guys! People are dying. Oil is ruining an ocean. People are starving. I'm as big of a geeked out fan about songs as the next person, but if your blood pressure is now 5 times higher from discussing "Hot Summer", maybe it's time to go outside.

Personally, I think the song is ok. It's not an insti-classic in my ears, but it it's catchy enough to be stuck in my head. Is it a demo? Is it not? Wasn't Dirty Mind mostly demos? I'm thinking "ok great.. now what's he gonna put out next?"

Personally with a lot of his narrow-minded views (in my eyes) he's put forth (usually allegedly) veering towards homophobia and mysogyny, and views in his faith I just can't follow (like not believing in modern medicine and some things that are plain common sense to me) it's much harder for me to accept new music with open arms and without a feeling in the pit of my stomach.

"Hot Summer" didn't beat me over the head with dogma. It's a simple little feel good jam. Maybe sometimes we just expect too much out of our idols and heroes. Prince is human too.. he's not infallible. That doesn't mean I have to love everything he releases. But I gotta say I like "Hot Summer" better than Ke$ha or a lot of songs on teh radio right now. Is that bad?

You know what they say about show business: you're only as good as your last project. In Prince terms, that has been Hot Summer, Cause & Effect, and Purple And Gold. You can see why people are freaking out, especially after LotusFlow3r had some really good stuff on it.

You are correct in saying that it's better than Ke$ha or a lot of the songs on the radio - but why are we setting the bar so low?

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Reply #888 posted 06/12/10 4:24am

JoeTyler

Se7en said:

PurplePartyman said:

Wow you guys my head hurts from reading all this heated jabbing back and forth over one song.

So he made a song. Either you like it, or you don't. But when people are arguing for page sna dpages over whether it was a major release, or intended as a statement, etc.. It's just a song people!!

SRRRLSY!

The great thing about music is that once it's out there, it's subjective. I wonder what it would have looked like if the intenet existed when "Gett Off" came out.Or even "Alphabet Street". Would we be losing sleep over whether or not a leaked version was proper, then criticizing each other, etc. Life's too short guys! People are dying. Oil is ruining an ocean. People are starving. I'm as big of a geeked out fan about songs as the next person, but if your blood pressure is now 5 times higher from discussing "Hot Summer", maybe it's time to go outside.

Personally, I think the song is ok. It's not an insti-classic in my ears, but it it's catchy enough to be stuck in my head. Is it a demo? Is it not? Wasn't Dirty Mind mostly demos? I'm thinking "ok great.. now what's he gonna put out next?"

Personally with a lot of his narrow-minded views (in my eyes) he's put forth (usually allegedly) veering towards homophobia and mysogyny, and views in his faith I just can't follow (like not believing in modern medicine and some things that are plain common sense to me) it's much harder for me to accept new music with open arms and without a feeling in the pit of my stomach.

"Hot Summer" didn't beat me over the head with dogma. It's a simple little feel good jam. Maybe sometimes we just expect too much out of our idols and heroes. Prince is human too.. he's not infallible. That doesn't mean I have to love everything he releases. But I gotta say I like "Hot Summer" better than Ke$ha or a lot of songs on teh radio right now. Is that bad?

You know what they say about show business: you're only as good as your last project. In Prince terms, that has been Hot Summer, Cause & Effect, and Purple And Gold. You can see why people are freaking out, especially after LotusFlow3r had some really good stuff on it.

You are correct in saying that it's better than Ke$ha or a lot of the songs on the radio - but why are we setting the bar so low?

Actually, Kesha singles are MUCH BETTER than this. If Prince wants to release pop summer singles, fine by me, but please, not lazy efforts like HS...
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Reply #889 posted 06/12/10 5:27am

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I hope that it transforms into something very different when performed live. (I've deleted the rest of what I had to say in an attempt to be positive.)

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Reply #890 posted 06/12/10 6:39am

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Sounds to me like a poppy song - similar in vein to Depeche Mode's "Master And Servant"

http://www.youtube.com/wa...svfofcIE1Q

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Reply #891 posted 06/12/10 7:15am

polkadotbliss

its a grower for sure

first listen-underwhelmed

had another listen-and its now properly in my head

i didn't listen to it more than twice too-so if instinctlively it gets in that quick...........

very VERY catchy8-)

so-it is what it is

a simple-catchy tune

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Reply #892 posted 06/12/10 8:13am

PurplePartyman

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violetblues said:

thaCONcept said:

I figured it out Y everyone dislike the song.
Prince fans, real fans longtime hardcore fans HATE it because they know its simple and beneath him and is NOT EVEN CLOSE 2 any of his MASTER WORKS.

Non-Prince fans hate it because they hate Prince and pretty much hate everything he does. Unless it becomes a massive hit and then people turn around and say. Oooh I love Prince. I loved him since "Purple Rain" days.....

If this song came out by Miley Cyrus or The Jonas Brothers or alike it would be a massive SUMMER HIT!!!
It is not without its flaws (cheesy Bongo drum fill, weak hook, strange intro) but it is exactly what it means 2 b....
A simple Summer old Skool pop/rock throwaway.
People R really 2 hard on Prince and 2 hard on this track. Maybe I will feel different when I realize the ENTIRE CD is this weak, but 4 now ill give my man Prince the benefit of the doubt. Lighten up and listen 2 the GIGANTIC INFLUENCE of the group - THE CARS!

oooohhh HOT SUMMER!

7

I agree with most of what you say here, especially the "cheesy bongo drum fill" lol, what on earth?

But as someone who is made to bear listening to a top 40 station when i drive in a girlfrieds car, let me tell you this song would not touch the top of charts, Miley baby and the Jonas bro's have a seasoned pros behind the scenes making sure this type of mess didn't make the cut and derailed their money train.

........and as a long time Cars fans I take great insult in that connection, their hooks were not just strong but almost over the top, sometimes cheesy but never bongo drum fill cheesy hmph!

Ooooh yeah I dunno on the comparison to The Cars.. longtime Cars fan here too. I guess if you're talking a bouncy feel-good rhythm like 'Let's Go'. I think this song would be better with some punching-up... some slightly meatier bass.. some handclaps. I dunno.. if I were playing producer I'd treat this like a demo and say.. ok now what could we do to make this song irresistable like some of the great 80's cheesy singalong/clapalong anthems..

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Reply #893 posted 06/12/10 8:19am

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Nice fun track, perhaps just a message from P , to get ready cuz it's gonna be a .....well u know.

Looking forward to a new album.

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Reply #894 posted 06/12/10 8:20am

PurplePartyman

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JoeTyler said:

Se7en said:

You know what they say about show business: you're only as good as your last project. In Prince terms, that has been Hot Summer, Cause & Effect, and Purple And Gold. You can see why people are freaking out, especially after LotusFlow3r had some really good stuff on it.

You are correct in saying that it's better than Ke$ha or a lot of the songs on the radio - but why are we setting the bar so low?

Actually, Kesha singles are MUCH BETTER than this. If Prince wants to release pop summer singles, fine by me, but please, not lazy efforts like HS...

Well there's no "correct". Musical taste is totally subjective. I *personally* am not impressed by Ke$ha. That's me and only me. To my ears she sounds like a copy or a mixup of a lot of other things that have already been done recently, so I'm not really a fan, because I'd rather hear the things that came before her instead. But obviously some people love her or she would be selling tons of cds. More power to her. But i will reach for "Hot Summer" before I reach for "Tik-Tok". But if you like Ke$ha or anything on pop radio for that matter.. then rock out to what you like by all means!

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Reply #895 posted 06/12/10 9:01am

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ernestsewell said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Is there no one at your station who listened to this track and said "guys, I think he's punking us?"

I'm sorry, but I'm supposed to believe that you and him talked about new music (which includes the ridiculously overrated Janelle Monáe) and then this is the track he hands you guys? And you actually play it on your station?

Why wouldn't someone at the station have been able to talk to Prince? As if Prince has never spoken to a radio station person before, or a journalist, or a program director? It's a nonsensical question, and should be considered rhetorical.

There's something reassuring about you guys. Five, ten, twenty or even thirty years from now, I fully expect to be find you somewhere, still at it.

My faith in the human spirit is replenished.

As for the new song, it's deliberately uncomplicated and retro, like Chelsea Rogers and Guitar. It's his idea of a catchy upbeat tune, but he's making music for his own personal radio with not a care in the world for what radio stations actually play. His efforts at being somewhat radio-friendly and current were sometimes interesting but more often forgettable, and he has mostly been presenting himself as a keeper of several black music traditions. The fact these traditions are considered old-fashioned doesn't faze him, it's what he enjoys performing, sometimes self-indulgently. Too bad he has such a elder stateman aura, as I'd love to see him do some Gaga-ish tracks.

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Reply #896 posted 06/12/10 9:04am

Trickology

I have to say this. The program director of the "Current" came in and teased us with the song.

I have to wonder how many people at the station enjoyed this song and how many held their tongue because Prince was giving them exclusives?How would they react to this song on their desk if the name of the artist was "Bill Thomas"

I'm sorry but the song isn't hot nor is it anything that needs any attention. Maybe Prince should have called it a Coasting Summer. Hot Summer seems to indicate that this track will be hot. I have to wonder if this track was made by a different artist, how many people still would be defending this. If Jonas Brothers did this track would you be defending it? Don't lie to me on this.

In my opinion, Prince won't get a honest reaction from anyone at the Current on the air when they play this. Probably the traffic to their site has helped them out by being able to debut Prince songs. But I think citypages blog perfectly described this song:

The Purple One is 52 years young today, and is letting us all celebrate with a new song! a new song. Given the timing and title one would assume this is Prince's volley for drop-top anthem of 2010, but "Hot Summer" comes off more as a Huey Lewis demo or the intro to an internal Valleyfair employee instructional video. Regardless (like he cares!): HAPPY BIRTHDAY. Song and more follow.

Citypages for the win/orgers for the excuse.Lol the cross out of the exclamation mark & Valleyfair employee instructional video . falloff

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Reply #897 posted 06/12/10 9:07am

NuPwrSoul

Aerogram said:

ernestsewell said:

Why wouldn't someone at the station have been able to talk to Prince? As if Prince has never spoken to a radio station person before, or a journalist, or a program director? It's a nonsensical question, and should be considered rhetorical.

There's something reassuring about you guys. Five, ten, twenty or even thirty years from now, I fully expect to be find you somewhere, still at it.

My faith in the human spirit is replenished.

As for the new song, it's deliberately uncomplicated and retro, like Chelsea Rogers and Guitar. It's his idea of a catchy upbeat tune, but he's making music for his own personal radio with not a care in the world for what radio stations actually play. His efforts at being somewhat radio-friendly and current were sometimes interesting but more often forgettable, and he has mostly been presenting himself as a keeper of several black music traditions. The fact these traditions are considered old-fashioned doesn't faze him, it's what he enjoys performing, sometimes self-indulgently. Too bad he has such a elder stateman aura, as I'd love to see him do some Gaga-ish tracks.

Aerogram!!! Maybe I've been reading the wrong threads, but haven't seen you in a while and missed your wisdom!
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #898 posted 06/12/10 9:30am

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IstenSzek said:

ernestsewell said:

Then sod off. Did that make you queezy too? I can see it's pointless to even try to approach as a human being, much less a music fan.

If you can't defend what you said, then don't say it. You got called out, and now you're trying to make it personal. Very grown up of you. comfort I never attacked YOU, I challenged your statement. Aww, did that make you queezy too? Need some Tums? Here:

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And yeah, you read it. You'll save face by saying you didn't. But you did. You know it, and I know it, even as you will continue to deny it until your dying breath.

look i'll give you one more response. don't pretend you don't like it because you really do

thrive on that shit.

your last post is a typical example of the way you prance around the org. it seems like the

only thing you do.

do you really think you're that good? that cool? that much of an authority?

the only thing you really are is a bully. unable to talk about anything in a normal fashion.

do you go around acting like that in real life too? because if you do, it's no wonder you

can't leave the house anymore and have to vent your venom over here because someone

somewhere probably already decked you.

go ahead and respond with another one of your signature lines about misreading, or about

calling someone out.

instead of reading so much into other people's posts perhaps you should look in the mirror

a bit longer and realise you're just a regular guy, be it one with a shitty disposition and one

major complexes.

don't try to hang your shit on me, ok. i know who i am and what i stand for, which is why

i haven't felt the need to call ANYONE ANYTHING since i first came to the org more than 10

years ago. i get along with everyone usually.

you're the first one i literally can't stand because of the way you talk to people. it might not

be directed at me mostly but i can't stand your type of bullying shitty guys. that's why.

now please, burn me, do whatever you like. i said all that was left bubbling. no more replies

from now on. give it your best shot, big guy.

istenzek why get so pissed about Ernest...you should not take him so seriously.....he thinks Planet Earth is a good Prince album....that says enough!

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Reply #899 posted 06/12/10 9:39am

Trickology

Aerogram said:

ernestsewell said:

Why wouldn't someone at the station have been able to talk to Prince? As if Prince has never spoken to a radio station person before, or a journalist, or a program director? It's a nonsensical question, and should be considered rhetorical.

There's something reassuring about you guys. Five, ten, twenty or even thirty years from now, I fully expect to be find you somewhere, still at it.

My faith in the human spirit is replenished.

As for the new song, it's deliberately uncomplicated and retro, like Chelsea Rogers and Guitar. It's his idea of a catchy upbeat tune, but he's making music for his own personal radio with not a care in the world for what radio stations actually play. His efforts at being somewhat radio-friendly and current were sometimes interesting but more often forgettable, and he has mostly been presenting himself as a keeper of several black music traditions. The fact these traditions are considered old-fashioned doesn't faze him, it's what he enjoys performing, sometimes self-indulgently. Too bad he has such a elder stateman aura, as I'd love to see him do some Gaga-ish tracks.

Your reasoning is borderline Spinal-Tap/Mighty Wind. As Ed Lover might say "C'Mon Son" It's okay to be contrarian, but when you typed this, did you have a voice in the back of your head saying "What if the song was deliberately crap? That would be disingenuous"

Would you like this song or even give it a passing glance if it was sung by:

Jonas Brothers

Taylor Swift

NickelBack

Miley Cyrus

Avril Lavigne

Pink

Justin Beiber

Adam Lambert

John Mayer

Coldplay

Maroon 5

Would you say it was "uncomplicated and retro" if it was any other artist? If you answer honestly, I believe you would say "I really wouldn't care & I'd probably call it filler and uninspired" Which brings me to the point that alot of people are making on this thread. Why apologise or back pedal for something obviously crafted to be subpar/mediocre/phoned in and painfully dull because it's penned by a musical icon from Minneapolis? Orgers need to stop giving Prince a hall pass. For god sakes be honest with yourself, people. "Hey, this sounds like Prince is deliberately releasing dull coasters. Why should he get attention for that when any musician studio rat makes a dime a dozen of these tracks all across the world every day? Hey,wait a minute! Prince is just attention whoring with his music over nothing! " lol

Sorrry, but that has far more of a ring of truth to it than most wish to fathom. It's probably why alot of musicians commit suicide due to the aggravation of not getting noticed for doing the same caliber of work. falloff

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