wtf??? why they always gotta go off the deep end???

Long time lurker, first time poster, been a Prince fan since 1982, been through Prince all his ups and downs his happy and sad clowns. I like this new song a lot having listened to it all this week, sure Purple and Gold wasn't funk-worthy, but it was a rousing song for a football team, whether it gets that crowd stomping and geared up for the match is another matter.

Cause and Effect aint classic Prince by a long shot, but it's damn good, he's been doung lots of fantastic stuff recently, PFunk, Lotusflow3er (the Lotusflow3er disc in particular) The Rainbow Children (even though I don't agree with the Jehovah Witmess concept).

I may seem like one of these fans that would like a bootleg of Prince scrunching up a piece of paper and blowing his nose on it and call it funky, but I do know when he aint all there (New Power Soul, most of Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic, Come, Musicology.....) Even back in 1990 people (not on the internet off course) were crying about how bad Grafetti Bridge was (it aint that bad), and the Batman album (Arms of Orion has to go!), I remember when The Most Beautiful Girl In The World came out a radio station had a phone in and most of the fans were ranting to how twee and simplistic it was (I still have problems with the so-called classic song).

I just had to stand up for this song because IT AINT THAT BAD, sure people aint going to like it, but it's the viciousness of some of the posts, it's almost like some people are taking it personally that Prince isn't classic anymore. Personally, I think he's harking back to one of his first icons Jimi Hendrix, very prominently stated in the Lotusflow3er disc with all the Hendrix references, maybe he wants to get back to those days when he would just play in a club with a group of friends, it's just his ego that's getting in the way.

bassmungus said:

Hi, welcome to the org, your a bit brave saying that Cause and Effect is better than the albums stated above but after all we have different opinions, i think the above are great especially Come and Musicology but i still like Cause And Effect. But prepare yourself for ppl to say this or that is better than.... happens here alot.

Thanks for the welcome, not saying that those forementioned albums were bad, just lower in the ranks if I had to list his songs, some songs on those albums would be worse that Cause and Effect, in my opinion. But then I rank Cloreen, Bacon Skin very highly, so what would I know.....
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Quite an average song to me.

Even saying "It ain't that bad" pretty much shows where things have gone with his music

Sdldawn said:

That and the steady stream of his fans saying, "He's old! He's not supposed to make great art anymore!"

Efan said:

he is indeed beating on a dead horse

He needs to move on, change horses with whatever dignity he has left.

he was much more than a successful popster he can be more than that again.

Farfunknugin said:

Really, you had tears in your eyes? Good Lawd! He's a freaking pop star, get a life already.[/quote]


he's a legendary musician and a human being. To simply state to someone here on the org ...'Oh he's just a pop star get a life already' what kind of crap philosophy do you subscribe to? you have no right o low rate ANY ONE"S humanity like that.

Is the Living God real ? Of course. Can I prove to you? It's not for me to prove to you. And whether or not you believe...doesn't make Him any less God.

Oh and btw.... the Living God Himself is one hell of a musician His own self. how do I know?
Because He sang to me .... once ... in a dream..when I was 21. And the entire horizon was filled
with jewel tone colors from the botton all the way to the top...representing all the tones of the music. It was funky blues and the song was about works. but i wont say any more to you about that.

ill you mock? demograhpics show that there's a 98.6% a chance you will.lol Cuz you seem to be in the habit of mocking faith, God and humanity ...even though you yourself are human. *interesting thought*

but God bless and kiss my ass. lol
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Lotus2unfld said:

Prince, you really need to stop drunk-posting.

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squirrelgrease said:

Prince???

well, I initially didnt like it, now it has grown on me and I stuck it on my Ipod with Lotus and PFunk where it seems to fit nicely in a quirky kind of way.

Prince sounds genuinely happy singing it and blazing those rich guitar lines through it.

Lotus2unfld said:

he's a legendary musician and a human being. To simply state to someone here on the org ...'Oh he's just a pop star get a life already' what kind of crap philosophy do you subscribe to? you have no right o low rate ANY ONE"S humanity like that.

Is the Living God real ? Of course. Can I prove to you? It's not for me to prove to you. And whether or not you believe...doesn't make Him any less God.

Oh and btw.... the Living God Himself is one hell of a musician His own self. how do I know?
Because He sang to me .... once ... in a dream..when I was 21. And the entire horizon was filled
with jewel tone colors from the botton all the way to the top...representing all the tones of the music. It was funky blues and the song was about works. but i wont say any more to you about that.

ill you mock? demograhpics show that there's a 98.6% a chance you will.lol Cuz you seem to be in the habit of mocking faith, God and humanity ...even though you yourself are human. *interesting thought*

but God bless and kiss my ass. lol
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yes yes this has 2 be prince or someone who needs Dr.Phil

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I do. Thanks very much. But if no one spoke up about the negativity on this site, it would simply go on and on. The constant complaining here is such a fucking drag, so I come here for the news, and an occasional comment or general discussion.
Ben should just rename the site. It has very little to do with being a Prince fan. If I had the time, I could come up with dozens of new names for it. But, Prince.org is not one of them.

DrD said:

How did you know? Wow you really can read my mind.
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bassmungus said:

i agree. imo, the level of pure vitriolic spite occasionally found on this website speaks more to what is lacking in prince's fans, that to what is lacking in prince.

XxAxX said:

And in my opinion, it is stupid to say something in lacking in people because they say negative things on a website.

XNY said:

And it does simply go on and on. it has been here from the beginning and will continue as long as free speech is allowed on this site.

You do the best thing anyone can do that is dissatisfied with this site: you limit your visits here. Bitching about the bitchers doesn't help either.

The Cause is: We are Free 2 say what we say.

The Effect is: We've said it, and we can't take it back. All we can do is apologize if we offended someone in hopes to be 4given.

Sometimes it makes ya wanna grab your boombox with your 23 minute version of Prince's "Get Blue," tie on a purple bandanna, get on a red dirt road, and be on your "Dan Fogelberg," way.

Vendetta1 said:

Sadly u're right. Nothing helps. Responding only makes it worse b/c it's exactly what they want u to do. It's just fuel to the fire.

XxAxX said:

Not sure I would agree that Prince's fans are lacking something, that's the source of the problems here (other than the disrespectful nature of the dialog). I think expectations are just too high, and Prince will never meet everyone's expectations.

For me, I have always loved the way Prince presented material that was challenging and daring, both musically and lyrically. There are albums I could listen to for hours, like a Miles Davis record. And though I feel that has tailed off much of the last decade, I still enjoy much of what he has produced.

- JD

Tame said:

AMEN !

The best about Cause&Effect : it's a sign of life from Prince

A song with lot's of dynamic guitar-play and various musical ideas put together into one.....
My fav part - aside the "I am here..."-intro, which is bringing back some enthusiastic memories from Montreux - is def the "voicebox/..need compassion"-part !! That could be a theme for a song seperately imho !

In this case I would say : sometimes less is more

Still looking forward to new music to come.

famosA said:

I like that part too

i drink too much wine, i must not post on the internet whilst taking a piss

Cx

now, about that Green Filter...

nosajd said:

I listening Cause & Effect it was Ok!

poetcorner61 said:

squirrelgrease said:

well alright... you make a point. sort of. but so did i. yeah... might be a bit unusual. however, nothing wrong with being unique. as long as one is sincere in their uniquity.

However (comma) ... you know i'm not Prince.

Speak for yourself Squirrel.

Don't set me up for that mess... cuz i don't have time to be bothered.

..cheers
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I liked the song but not the chanting Hey Hey Hey part. Too much like Bon Jovi.

"Cause And Effect" is the title to a Jesse Johnson CD, not The Time's Jesse Johnson but another guy. I think it's more than a coincidence that Prince used the name. I bet it's a nod to the "Shockadelica" incident. My apologies if this has been mentioned before. http://www.myspace.com/je...nsononline