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Reply #600 posted 03/03/10 12:03pm

Vendetta1

ian said:

If you like the song, that's awesome. Don't let my dumb opinions ruin your day.

Maybe some of us are just out-growing Prince a bit. I have enjoyed all of his albums, but recently there has been a slight sense that Prince's world is currently too small and insular to make him an interesting artist. So we end up with songs about how much loves his guitar, or how great his career has been etc. What's next, songs about changing strings? Songs about synth patches? Songs about copyright violation? Er actually we've probably had that last one...

The man is still an amazing musician, but I can't remember the last time I felt his work had something to say. Or rather, when he does have something to say it is usually so juvenile, so lacking in self-awareness, or so drenched in religious dogma that it wasn't worth a second listen. In my opinion.
Hi Ian. wave

I agree.

What I don't agree with is people saying if we don't like this song, there is something wrong with us. Art is subjective. No one is going to agree on all of it. There is not one Prince song that everyone agrees is genius so I don't get some of you guys.

I don't like this song. It makes no less or no better, a Prince fan.
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Reply #601 posted 03/03/10 12:14pm

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ian said:

If you like the song, that's awesome. Don't let my dumb opinions ruin your day.

Maybe some of us are just out-growing Prince a bit. I have enjoyed all of his albums, but recently there has been a slight sense that Prince's world is currently too small and insular to make him an interesting artist. So we end up with songs about how much loves his guitar, or how great his career has been etc. What's next, songs about changing strings? Songs about synth patches? Songs about copyright violation? Er actually we've probably had that last one...

The man is still an amazing musician, but I can't remember the last time I felt his work had something to say. Or rather, when he does have something to say it is usually so juvenile, so lacking in self-awareness, or so drenched in religious dogma that it wasn't worth a second listen. In my opinion.


Changing strings sucks! I could really feel a song about that.
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Reply #602 posted 03/03/10 12:17pm

Vendetta1

NDRU said:

ian said:

If you like the song, that's awesome. Don't let my dumb opinions ruin your day.

Maybe some of us are just out-growing Prince a bit. I have enjoyed all of his albums, but recently there has been a slight sense that Prince's world is currently too small and insular to make him an interesting artist. So we end up with songs about how much loves his guitar, or how great his career has been etc. What's next, songs about changing strings? Songs about synth patches? Songs about copyright violation? Er actually we've probably had that last one...

The man is still an amazing musician, but I can't remember the last time I felt his work had something to say. Or rather, when he does have something to say it is usually so juvenile, so lacking in self-awareness, or so drenched in religious dogma that it wasn't worth a second listen. In my opinion.


Changing strings sucks! I could really feel a song about that.
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I don't change my own strings. lol
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Reply #603 posted 03/03/10 12:33pm

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ian said:

If you like the song, that's awesome. Don't let my dumb opinions ruin your day.

Maybe some of us are just out-growing Prince a bit. I have enjoyed all of his albums, but recently there has been a slight sense that Prince's world is currently too small and insular to make him an interesting artist. So we end up with songs about how much loves his guitar, or how great his career has been etc. What's next, songs about changing strings? Songs about synth patches? Songs about copyright violation? Er actually we've probably had that last one...

The man is still an amazing musician, but I can't remember the last time I felt his work had something to say. Or rather, when he does have something to say it is usually so juvenile, so lacking in self-awareness, or so drenched in religious dogma that it wasn't worth a second listen. In my opinion.


Are could it be that u have such disdain for the man's religious beliefs that u let it color everything he produces now. If u believe "guitar" is literally about a guitar then u obviously just aren't paying attention. Didn't the man sing "baby I'm a star" ole 26 years ago. So u should have been turned off about him tooting his own horn eons ago. Prince has written and does write about everything. Don't hide behind his songs contents to hang your hat on why u are not feeling it. You're trying to blame prince for how u feel. Just decide that he and u have moved in different directions and move on without blaming him for the breakup
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Reply #604 posted 03/03/10 12:50pm

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tricky99 said:

ian said:

If you like the song, that's awesome. Don't let my dumb opinions ruin your day.

Maybe some of us are just out-growing Prince a bit. I have enjoyed all of his albums, but recently there has been a slight sense that Prince's world is currently too small and insular to make him an interesting artist. So we end up with songs about how much loves his guitar, or how great his career has been etc. What's next, songs about changing strings? Songs about synth patches? Songs about copyright violation? Er actually we've probably had that last one...

The man is still an amazing musician, but I can't remember the last time I felt his work had something to say. Or rather, when he does have something to say it is usually so juvenile, so lacking in self-awareness, or so drenched in religious dogma that it wasn't worth a second listen. In my opinion.


Are could it be that u have such disdain for the man's religious beliefs that u let it color everything he produces now. If u believe "guitar" is literally about a guitar then u obviously just aren't paying attention. Didn't the man sing "baby I'm a star" ole 26 years ago. So u should have been turned off about him tooting his own horn eons ago. Prince has written and does write about everything. Don't hide behind his songs contents to hang your hat on why u are not feeling it. You're trying to blame prince for how u feel. Just decide that he and u have moved in different directions and move on without blaming him for the breakup


He's solely responsible for the breakup. He's the one engaging in all the madness. Just because some of us are sane enough to slap him with a restraining order doesn't mean the confused battered wives are correct.
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #605 posted 03/03/10 2:13pm

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such ugly hate on this site sometimes. I just don`t get it. It`s ok to not like the song but some u folks just tale it to a whole new level. people r defending the song if they like b/c they fucking like it. simple as that. if some1 starts knocking a song u like u`d probably b defensive about it too. Mayb I`m wrong but so is Hate.
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Reply #606 posted 03/03/10 2:50pm

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nosajd said:

such ugly hate on this site sometimes. I just don`t get it. It`s ok to not like the song but some u folks just tale it to a whole new level. people r defending the song if they like b/c they fucking like it. simple as that. if some1 starts knocking a song u like u`d probably b defensive about it too. Mayb I`m wrong but so is Hate.
[Edited 3/3/10 14:21pm]

You're wrong. We don't like Stepford Wives.
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Reply #607 posted 03/03/10 2:57pm

Vendetta1

nosajd said:

such ugly hate on this site sometimes. I just don`t get it. It`s ok to not like the song but some u folks just tale it to a whole new level. people r defending the song if they like b/c they fucking like it. simple as that. if some1 starts knocking a song u like u`d probably b defensive about it too. Mayb I`m wrong but so is Hate.
[Edited 3/3/10 14:21pm]
There is hate on both sides. i have no problem with people defending the song but don't sit here and tell me that there is something wrong with me because I don't like it. I did not tear it down. I did not insult Prince and yet, some people still have a problem with my opinion.

People knock a bunch of songs I like but instead of getting defensive, I keep it moving. You know why? Because I don't give a fuck what people think about the songs I like that they don't. And I don't care why people like this song. art is subjective. there is no right or wrong. Maybe one day some of the people in this forum will get that.
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Reply #608 posted 03/03/10 3:00pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

nosajd said:

such ugly hate on this site sometimes. I just don`t get it. It`s ok to not like the song but some u folks just tale it to a whole new level. people r defending the song if they like b/c they fucking like it. simple as that. if some1 starts knocking a song u like u`d probably b defensive about it too. Mayb I`m wrong but so is Hate. [Edited 3/3/10 14:21pm]
You're wrong. We don't like Stepford Wives.


I knew u couldnt resist. like honey to fucking bee.
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Reply #609 posted 03/03/10 3:07pm

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Vendetta1 said:[quote]

nosajd said:

such ugly hate on this site sometimes. I just don`t get it. It`s ok to not like the song but some u folks just tale it to a whole new level. people r defending the song if they like b/c they fucking like it. simple as that. if some1 starts knocking a song u like u`d probably b defensive about it too. Mayb I`m wrong but so is Hate. [Edited 3/3/10 14:21pm]
There is hate on both sides. i have no problem with people defending the song but don't sit here and tell me that there is something wrong with me because I don't like it. I did not tear it down. I did not insult Prince and yet, some people still have a problem with my opinion. People knock a bunch of songs I like but instead of getting defensive, I keep it moving. You know why? Because I don't give a fuck what people think about the songs I like that they don't. And I don't care why people like this song. art is subjective. there is no right or wrong. Maybe one day some of the people in this for

no ur right. folks have been overly ugly on both sides, but if u go back & read all these posts I`m sure u can c the scale tipping towards overwhelmingly ugly & neg comments about how P sux or or he`s lost it or some othr crap
like that. y cant folks just like the song for what it is w/o being told we have no taste n music. & that Should go both ways but once the line is crossed here it seems the gloves come off & folks start lacing their jabs.
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Reply #610 posted 03/03/10 3:19pm

Vendetta1

nosajd said:[quote]

Vendetta1 said:

nosajd said:

such ugly hate on this site sometimes. I just don`t get it. It`s ok to not like the song but some u folks just tale it to a whole new level. people r defending the song if they like b/c they fucking like it. simple as that. if some1 starts knocking a song u like u`d probably b defensive about it too. Mayb I`m wrong but so is Hate. [Edited 3/3/10 14:21pm]
There is hate on both sides. i have no problem with people defending the song but don't sit here and tell me that there is something wrong with me because I don't like it. I did not tear it down. I did not insult Prince and yet, some people still have a problem with my opinion. People knock a bunch of songs I like but instead of getting defensive, I keep it moving. You know why? Because I don't give a fuck what people think about the songs I like that they don't. And I don't care why people like this song. art is subjective. there is no right or wrong. Maybe one day some of the people in this for

no ur right. folks have been overly ugly on both sides, but if u go back & read all these posts I`m sure u can c the scale tipping towards overwhelmingly ugly & neg comments about how P sux or or he`s lost it or some othr crap
like that. y cant folks just like the song for what it is w/o being told we have no taste n music. & that Should go both ways but once the line is crossed here it seems the gloves come off & folks start lacing their jabs.
I completely ignore people like that. some of the people that say the things you've posted only do it to get a rise out of some of you and it always works.

I don't like when people call Prince names either but I have no control over that so I keep going. This site has welcomed all types of opinions since its inception so you can either give in to the negativity or you can keep your own positivity going.
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Reply #611 posted 03/03/10 3:44pm

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Vendetta1 said:[quote]nosajd said:[quote]There is hate on both sides. i have no problem with people defending the song but don't sit here and tell me that there is something wrong with me because I don't like it. I did not tear it down. I did not insult Prince and yet, some people still have a problem with my opinion. People knock a bunch of songs I like but instead of getting defensive, I keep it moving. You know why? Because I don't give a fuck what people think about the songs I like that they don't. And I don't care why people like this song. art is subjective. there is no right or wrong. Maybe one day some of the people in this for no ur right. folks have been overly ugly on both sides, but if u go back & read all these posts I`m sure u can c the scale tipping towards overwhelmingly ugly & neg comments about how P sux or or he`s lost it or some othr crap like that. y cant folks just like the song for what it is w/o being told we have no taste n music. & that Should go both ways but once the line is

thank u captain obvious. j/k. u speak the truth, it`s just frustrating reading all this negativity sonetines. I was just voicing my perspectivebwas all. thanks for not knocking me out
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Reply #612 posted 03/03/10 3:56pm

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nosajd said:[quote]Vendetta1 said:[quote]

nosajd said:

There is hate on both sides. i have no problem with people defending the song but don't sit here and tell me that there is something wrong with me because I don't like it. I did not tear it down. I did not insult Prince and yet, some people still have a problem with my opinion. People knock a bunch of songs I like but instead of getting defensive, I keep it moving. You know why? Because I don't give a fuck what people think about the songs I like that they don't. And I don't care why people like this song. art is subjective. there is no right or wrong. Maybe one day some of the people in this for no ur right. folks have been overly ugly on both sides, but if u go back & read all these posts I`m sure u can c the scale tipping towards overwhelmingly ugly & neg comments about how P sux or or he`s lost it or some othr crap like that. y cant folks just like the song for what it is w/o being told we have no taste n music. & that Should go both ways but once the line is

thank u captain obvious. j/k. u speak the truth, it`s just frustrating reading all this negativity sonetines. I was just voicing my perspectivebwas all. thanks for not knocking me out


Well then tell all the positive nancies to get the hell out of people's faces telling them they need to leave the site.
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Reply #613 posted 03/03/10 3:58pm

Vendetta1

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Well then tell all the positive nancies to get the hell out of people's faces telling them they need to leave the site.
That bullshit needs to stop, too.
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Reply #614 posted 03/03/10 4:30pm

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This song is pure garbage, but I'm not surprised after hearing lotus/mpls sound/planet earth. The man is washed up and just needs to retire.
I can be a true friend, or a worthy adversary. The choice is yours.
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Reply #615 posted 03/03/10 4:35pm

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Am I too late to the party? I just heard the track. That was awful. Cringe-worthy and all that.
rainbow

"...literal people are scary, man
literal people scare me
out there trying to rid the world of its poetry
while getting it wrong fundamentally
down at the church of "look, it says right here, see!" - ani difranco
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Reply #616 posted 03/03/10 4:38pm

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TheResistor said:

Am I too late to the party? I just heard the track. That was awful. Cringe-worthy and all that.


I just joined the party too, and i have to agree. had to turn that shit off after 10 seconds.
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Reply #617 posted 03/03/10 4:40pm

RipTheJacker

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This song is pure garbage, but I'm not surprised after hearing lotus/mpls sound/planet earth. The man is washed up and just needs to retire.

yeahthat
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Reply #618 posted 03/03/10 4:51pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:[quote]nosajd said:[quote]

Vendetta1 said:

nosajd said:

There is hate on both sides. i have no problem with people defending the song but don't sit here and tell me that there is something wrong with me because I don't like it. I did not tear it down. I did not insult Prince and yet, some people still have a problem with my opinion. People knock a bunch of songs I like but instead of getting defensive, I keep it moving. You know why? Because I don't give a fuck what people think about the songs I like that they don't. And I don't care why people like this song. art is subjective. there is no right or wrong. Maybe one day some of the people in this for no ur right. folks have been overly ugly on both sides, but if u go back & read all these posts I`m sure u can c the scale tipping towards overwhelmingly ugly & neg comments about how P sux or or he`s lost it or some othr crap like that. y cant folks just like the song for what it is w/o being told we have no taste n music. & that Should go both ways but once the line is

thank u captain obvious. j/k. u speak the truth, it`s just frustrating reading all this negativity sonetines. I was just voicing my perspectivebwas all. thanks for not knocking me out


Well then tell all the positive nancies to get the hell out of people's faces telling them they need to leave the site.



nowt wrong with being positive if some like the song fair enough if you dont fair enough but some of the comments on here are way over the top..i hated the rainbow children but i didnt go on and on about it.

on another note some of the so called musicians on here who have slated this song....well from what ive heard on their my space page...stick me in a music booth anyday with princes worst song hmmm lets think Purple and Gold and i will be happy than listen to their unsigned tripe and with shit like that u will be left unsigned u couldnt give their shit away ill
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Reply #619 posted 03/03/10 4:55pm

Vendetta1

cream72 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Well then tell all the positive nancies to get the hell out of people's faces telling them they need to leave the site.



nowt wrong with being positive if some like the song fair enough if you dont fair enough but some of the comments on here are way over the top..i hated the rainbow children but i didnt go on and on about it.

on another note some of the so called musicians on here who have slated this song....well from what ive heard on their my space page...stick me in a music booth anyday with princes worst song hmmm lets think Purple and Gold and i will be happy than listen to their unsigned tripe and with shit like that u will be left unsigned u couldnt give their shit away ill
And you continue to add to the problem instead of being part of the solution.

Do I need to be an accomplished musician to critique a song? No. What makes you an expert?

with posts like yours, I am going to be more and more okay when people rip songs to shit.
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Reply #620 posted 03/03/10 5:00pm

cream72

Vendetta1 said:

cream72 said:




nowt wrong with being positive if some like the song fair enough if you dont fair enough but some of the comments on here are way over the top..i hated the rainbow children but i didnt go on and on about it.

on another note some of the so called musicians on here who have slated this song....well from what ive heard on their my space page...stick me in a music booth anyday with princes worst song hmmm lets think Purple and Gold and i will be happy than listen to their unsigned tripe and with shit like that u will be left unsigned u couldnt give their shit away ill
And you continue to add to the problem instead of being part of the solution.

Do I need to be an accomplished musician to critique a song? No. What makes you an expert?

with posts like yours, I am going to be more and more okay when people rip songs to shit.


And the solution would be ?...to agree with you that the song is shit...its not good and its not bad either.

and what makes you a expert all im saying is if you dont like the song fair enough but cause others do dont have a dig at them
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Reply #621 posted 03/03/10 5:03pm

2elijah

This thread has its own little war going on. shrug Has "Cause and Effect" caused this effect? hmmm News at 11. (j/k)
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Reply #622 posted 03/03/10 5:04pm

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i still think though that its ridiculous people bag on his stuff....i mean yes we all have opinions but why do you think he doesnt put out as much, tour, alld that jazz??? its because of the lawsuits, negative critiscism, religion and a bunch of other reasons i mean seriously give the man a break a musical genius sometimes has a few hits and misses but for people to totally bag on it is sad.....i mean i love almost all of the things hes done except for maybe 10 or 15 songs and that pretty huge
Hey Miss Murder Can i, Hey miss murder can i, make beauty stay if i take my life.....ohhhhh
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Reply #623 posted 03/03/10 5:17pm

Vendetta1

cream72 said:

Vendetta1 said:

And you continue to add to the problem instead of being part of the solution.

Do I need to be an accomplished musician to critique a song? No. What makes you an expert?

with posts like yours, I am going to be more and more okay when people rip songs to shit.


And the solution would be ?...to agree with you that the song is shit...its not good and its not bad either.

and what makes you a expert all im saying is if you dont like the song fair enough but cause others do dont have a dig at them
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I never said the song was shit so save that for someone who did.

The solution would be for both sides to let people have their opinions without taking digs at the other side. You got personal. There is no need for that.
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Reply #624 posted 03/03/10 5:35pm

2elijah

timeout bitchfight MOMMA, MOMMA, please make them stop! bawl bawl
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Reply #625 posted 03/03/10 5:36pm

Vendetta1

2elijah said:

bitchfight MOMMA, MOMMA, please make them stop! bawl bawl
As long as there is the Org, it is never going to stop. All I can do is remove myself from these ridiculous arguments.
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Reply #626 posted 03/03/10 5:43pm

2elijah

Vendetta1 said:

2elijah said:

bitchfight MOMMA, MOMMA, please make them stop! bawl bawl
As long as there is the Org, it is never going to stop. All I can do is remove myself from these ridiculous arguments.



Sometimes that's all you can do. shrug I was trying to throw some humor in to break the ice. I mean, who would have thought asking opinions of a song would cause this effect? giggle (j/k)
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Reply #627 posted 03/03/10 6:52pm

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Prince.Org is one of several websites that had Prince new song "Cause and Effect" with postive reviews and some negatives reviews. I think he expects this because he wanted to have his fans opinion. So to respond, I think this wouldn't hurt Prince because he's the one that wanted his fans response.
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Reply #628 posted 03/03/10 8:13pm

Sdldawn

I actually played it while a few people were near the other day.. the facial expressions were priceless to see..
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Reply #629 posted 03/03/10 9:12pm

BoySimon

This is really beginning to grow on me. They are some lovely noises on this song that could ONLY be Prince. I do wonder whether he's put his bass guitar away... I love the guitar, but I'm wondering if we now need quite so much... lol
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