When he released this song and whanted our opinions I get the feeling that he just did it 4 fun. He must know that this song sucks and just whants 2 have a fun time reading our comments and have a good laff. Just like with that silly football song
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love2thenines2003 said:

Aha! Thanks for the scoop, It sure didn't sound like Cora.

This young dude is great...I notice he and Prince have the same birthday too.

babynoz said:

My word that guy's on fire ....Prince please play 3 concerts in London This Year with this Guy... the Royal Albert Hall would be nice...

PurpleKnight said:

It's a pity the mods can't separate the good, bad and ugly posts as it would be so much easier to read.

I like the song when it starts but then it just goes a bit raucous and loses me. I see some people like the latter part but I could really just do with hearing a song sometimes without it breaking into a full on "rock out with yer cock out" jam.

So given the choice between something like Prince's Cause and Effect and Tracy Chapman's Fast Car, which would you guys and girls choose?

ThirdStrike said:

This nonsense is one of the main reasons I rarely post here. Opinions are one thing, but most of the negative rants about this song are more bullying than anything else. Some people love it, some people don't. But, I think it's down right disrespectful to say it's "crap", "drivel", or "garbage"! Again, respect the art and artist, as well as those who enjoy it.

Just my 2 cents.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

yeah you are right it's not really album worthy, I just don't think that makes it utterly worthless. The song is little more than an excuse for Prince to play some music, which he always does very well. But it is like this post of mine. It's from a genius at work, but who is going to quote it in their sig?

iloveannie said:

I think my problem is that it doesn't really "rock out with its cock out" at all. It's one of those very surface pop rock songs that he does from time to time that doesn't really have any meat on its bones. It wants to rock, it just doesn't know how, if that makes any sense, and as a result just kind of ends up all over the place searching for a purpose or a direction and never really settling on one.

There IS potential in it, though. The basic song is alright enough, I suppose and if he were to scrap this recording and go in for another take, completely from scratch, it might make a difference. It might be another case of "Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful" or "Guitar."
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I it!

saafiir said:

I like these enlightened posts. That description really hits the nail on the head.

iloveannie said:

FAST

CAR



totally.

love2thenines2003 said:

http://www.drummerworld.c...leman.html

performed with:

Chaka Khan
Rachelle Ferrell
The Paradigm
Marvin Winans
Edwin Hawkins
Vanessa Bell Armstrong
Israel and New Breed
Bishop Eddie Long
William Murphy Ministries
Drummers for Jesus

...and many more

Christopher R. Coleman has been playing drums since the ripe old age of 2, sitting on his uncle's knee in church. He traveled with his father and uncles who performed together in a gospel ensemble. In his youth he practiced relentlessly with the aim of making it big as a drummer. In Junior high school he earned numerous awards in band competitions, including 1st place for instrumental soloist three years running.

He also took top honors in his hometown "Music Appreciation Awards" at the age of 14, and began traveling throughout the country with several gospel groups including Marvin Winans, Edwin Hawkins, and Vanessa Bell Armstrong - as well as performing with five jazz/variety/show bands.

In 1999, Chris graduated with honors from the Drummer's Collective. He was offered a scholarship to Berklee School of Music, was accepted into Manhattan School of Music, and received a recommendation from Ed Soph to attend North Texas State. He opted instead to return to his hometown of Saginaw, Michigan to start full-time ministry and ATW Global. He moved briefly to Cleveland to join the instructional staff at Christian Music Academy.

December 8, 2001, Chris was honored to win 1st place in the National Drum Competition sponsored by Guitar Center, which hosted 30,000+ drummers. He then came to Atlanta to study Bass guitar at AIM, where he was pleased to accept a position teaching drums. In addition to his teaching, Chris keeps a busy schedule touring. He has toured with Pastor Creflo A. Dollar Ministries throughout the country since June 2002, and has traveled to over 40 cities in 3 countries with praise and worship band "Israel and New Breed" since September 2003.

Chris has participated in several major gospel recordings, including Bishop Eddie Long, William Murphy Ministries and others. He plans to record with his band, "The Paradigm" in the very near future. Things have been on the up & up as of June 2006. Chris is now playing for R&B artist Rachelle Ferrell, as well as touring, promoting, & performing with his band.

Chris also participated in the 2005 & 2006 "Drummers 4 Jesus" events. He is recognized in the Modern Drummer Mag for the Sept'05' & June'06' issues.

2007 was ever exploding for Chris. He is on tour full time with "Chaka Kahn", as well as Rachelle Ferrell.



http://www.vicfirth.com/a...oleman.php

VIC FIRTH ARTIST
Chris Coleman

A 1999 graduate with honors from the Drummer's Collective, Chris Coleman won the 2001 National Drum Competition sponsored by Guitar Center, which hosted over 30,000 competing musicians. From GC's high profile launching pad, Chris has become an in-demand sessions artist, having toured extensively with Creflo Dollar Ministries and Israel Houghton, and can be heard on many gospel recordings, including titles from Bishop Eddie Long and William Murphy Ministries, among others. In 2003, Chris became a rhythmical force behind the explosive praise and worship group "Israel and New Breed" and performed on Israel's Billboard hit CD and DVD releases "Live From Another Level".

Recently, Coleman has reached mainstream audiences with his performances with R&B artist Rachelle Ferrell and is currently touring with Chaka Khan, as well as with his own band "The Paradigm". In addition to a hefty clinic schedule, Chris has participated in the 2005 and 2006 "Drummers 4 Jesus" events. Chris' instructional DVD entitled "Dynamic Drumming Vol. 3; Playing with Precision and Power" was recently released through DrumWorks Inc.

squirrelgrease said:

He sounds incredible. He may be Prince best drummer yet. If this is Prince new drummer we are in for a treat....Prince is going to have to bring it...

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

still, you're comparing one little track among hundreds to Tracy Chapman's biggest song (not to mention one that came out 20 years ago)! Prince has done songs without all the fireworks, too, even recently. It's as if one song (or two if you include Purple & Gold) has come to represent the whole range of Prince's capabilities
[Edited 3/5/10 13:18pm]

NDRU said:

Hey, I just answered the question posed

Finally, a drummer for Jesus in the ranks. I hope a Baptist On Bass follows shortly.

What a terrible song for the young man to make his Prince-ly debut. I'm sure he's got massive amounts of talent if Prince thinks he's good enough to be in his band so here's to hoping we get to hear something a little more coherent than the laughable Cause and Effect to see what the guy can really do.

Wall said:

there is zero character in the drumming. I hear zero personal imprint. I hope if he stays that he isn't choked like the rest of the people that play with him.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I agree with your statement but I'm willing to give the guy a pass due to the nature of the song. The love child of Keith Moon and Sheila E. couldn't have saved that song.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

okay, true, you didn't make the initial comparison

squirrelgrease said:

Awesome!!!! Thanks for that!

NDRU said:

Was never really a comparison of song, more a comparison of type. One is what I would class as a "song", the other a "mess".

It may be her finest song (to some) but we all know Prince throws out loads. But lately nothing he has done has come anywhere near close to hers. Or many other great songs by other artists.

Got to ask, "Prince, have you fucking lost it or is it just a bad spell?"

PS: I'm pretty pissed by the way. Friday night and all

Wall said:

That was my first thought, no personality. There's something else about his drumming that bothers me but then again the vids are of him soloing. I will wait to judge 'til i see him live.

iloveannie said:

well prince has done simple songs, even recently. I wonder if Tracy Chapman has done any complex songs, ever?

For the record, I do think Fast Car is a better song

I just think people do too much thinking. Is the song any good on it's own? Does it have to be compared to Yesterday? "It has no fucking violins!"

NDRU said:

When I hear a Prince song, I don't compare it to other songs. it's weird because I know some of the other diehards do. Every now and then, like with Guitar and Lolita, I'll say they sound like another song.

I think I've always be able to let a song stand on its own and give them all a chance, even when I'm not digging his shenanigans, Prince music is still my drug of choice.

I was just listening to "Da Bang" from the Crystal Ball CD, and the part where he goes into the solo guitar/drum parts in "Cause & Effect", sort of reminds me just a tidbit of the guitar/drum solo part in the track "Da Bang" when he jumps into the guitar solo in that song.
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Vendetta1 said:

Exactly!

Vendetta1 said:

I don't like the song

Wall said:

I've been to church a shitload of times and this is the first time that I've heard Jesus even had a band. Is going from playing for Jesus to playing for Prince a lateral career move?

squirrelgrease said:

this is a wonderful opportunity for Chris to dance with the devil in the pale moonlight

citrus said: