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Reply #180 posted 04/09/09 2:47am

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jtfolden said:

LondonStyle said:

Our man has been robbed....I knew it...Who the Hell is Keith Urban...Cheat! , Fix, some record company P.A took a big van to all the major record stores on Tuesday and paid for 4,000 copies..... biggrin


Prince probably did the same damn thing... he just didn't give them enough money. lol


Bria is not gonna drive no Van ..... but Nicole would..... lol
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #181 posted 04/09/09 4:31am

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Reply #182 posted 04/09/09 4:46am

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I seriously feel like Prince has been robbed of the #1 spot
and no! I don't have anything to back my opinion up.
It jus seems strange that he was ahead then on the last minute he's #2.
Like somebody (they) didn't want him to once again prove that u can be very successful without the gatekeepers hmmm
[Edited 4/9/09 4:47am]
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #183 posted 04/09/09 6:30am

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strutboy said:

The figure was not final. Billboard and Hits Daily Double have just confirmed that Prince is No.1 with 100% reporting.

The Soundscan figure was at 86% reporting.

So it is good news afterall.



Well?
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Reply #184 posted 04/09/09 6:43am

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JayJai said:

I seriously feel like Prince has been robbed of the #1 spot
and no! I don't have anything to back my opinion up.
It jus seems strange that he was ahead then on the last minute he's #2.
Like somebody (they) didn't want him to once again prove that u can be very successful without the gatekeepers hmmm
[Edited 4/9/09 4:47am]


#2 is still successful. Especially considering the circumstances of the album release.
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Reply #185 posted 04/09/09 6:50am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

strutboy said:

The figure was not final. Billboard and Hits Daily Double have just confirmed that Prince is No.1 with 100% reporting.

The Soundscan figure was at 86% reporting.

So it is good news afterall.



Well?


yeah, so, what is actually the deal here?
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Reply #186 posted 04/09/09 7:03am

evatorres

And next week it will be ????? lol
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Reply #187 posted 04/09/09 7:16am

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Shawnt26 said:

JayJai said:

I seriously feel like Prince has been robbed of the #1 spot
and no! I don't have anything to back my opinion up.
It jus seems strange that he was ahead then on the last minute he's #2.
Like somebody (they) didn't want him to once again prove that u can be very successful without the gatekeepers hmmm
[Edited 4/9/09 4:47am]


#2 is still successful. Especially considering the circumstances of the album release.


OK..I meant at the #1 spot lol

also I asked (can't remember if it's this thread or another) if Keith Urban would've been this successful if he took the road Prince took.
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #188 posted 04/09/09 7:35am

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He is #2 based on sales right? Well for a person that only sold the CD out of Target stores, I think that says a lot...about his music, fans, etc.
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Reply #189 posted 04/09/09 7:48am

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eye can honestly say that prince's new CD's are a breathe of fresh air..when eye listen 2 it over and over again it shows me how incredible of an artist,musician,composer and genius prince really is..he is number one with out charts because there is no artist out there that can compete with this man....genius is the only way to describe him...
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Reply #190 posted 04/09/09 9:10am

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baebgrl said:

He is #2 based on sales right? Well for a person that only sold the CD out of Target stores, I think that says a lot...about his music, fans, etc.


- Yes, and basically without promotion, MTV videos, payola, etc. Only 3 nights on Leno and the Target store display, right?

And it seems most european fans couldnt buy the CD yet, since Target doesnt deliver to other countries.
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Reply #191 posted 04/09/09 9:19am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

purplecam said:

You actually liked the CD BP?



LOL I was going to wait for things to die down around here before i gave my review of the album, but I went in totally prepared to hate the album and was completely blown away.

THAT's the Prince i'd been waiting to hear for a LONG time.
I even give Lotusflow3r a nudge over my beloved Rainbow Children because the subject matter isn't so heavy.

I'll admit i haven't listened to Bria's disc yet because i didn't want to ruin the high i got from listening to the Prince discs.

YES, for now i'm carrying my P torch once again. lol



Aw hell naw, it don't work like that. :::runs in and snatches P torch from BP::: You're on probation for now. lol
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Reply #192 posted 04/09/09 9:29am

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the funny thing is that Keith Urban has NC2U on his Celebrity Playlist on iTunes this week.

And yes, I agree that it's a rather impressive feat for a triple album (ok yes it was only $11.98) to reach that high on the charts and sell that much with very little promotion.
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Reply #193 posted 04/09/09 11:02am

LotusFlounder

Next week it will fall right off the table.
PM me 2 find the Dawn
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Reply #194 posted 04/09/09 11:46am

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

ButterscotchPimp said:




LOL I was going to wait for things to die down around here before i gave my review of the album, but I went in totally prepared to hate the album and was completely blown away.

THAT's the Prince i'd been waiting to hear for a LONG time.
I even give Lotusflow3r a nudge over my beloved Rainbow Children because the subject matter isn't so heavy.

I'll admit i haven't listened to Bria's disc yet because i didn't want to ruin the high i got from listening to the Prince discs.

YES, for now i'm carrying my P torch once again. lol



Aw hell naw, it don't work like that. :::runs in and snatches P torch from BP::: You're on probation for now. lol



HA!!! lol


okay, fair enough. i get a probationary torch. or a match.
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Reply #195 posted 04/09/09 12:55pm

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ButterscotchPimp said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:




Aw hell naw, it don't work like that. :::runs in and snatches P torch from BP::: You're on probation for now. lol



HA!!! lol


okay, fair enough. i get a probationary torch. or a match.


Just out of curiosity are you including Lotus and MPLSound together in your review? Or were you just referring to Lotus on its own?
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Reply #196 posted 04/09/09 1:53pm

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japanrocks said:

more importantly i bet he made like $8 from each sale

way more than an artist on a label would make

Congrats!!


The Lion's share I would say

Rock on Prince
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Reply #197 posted 04/09/09 2:07pm

audience1

Holy shit!!!
Good news!!!
Prince is #1 on the Target chart!!!
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Reply #198 posted 04/09/09 2:18pm

nubrownsoul

Thanks to my parents' genes, I simply do not grow facial hair. I never have, unless you count microscopic stubble in the same ranks as a full beard. It certainly makes me a little jealous, especially when there are groups around promoting goodwill and happiness through the growth of a beard. So imagine my surprise when I found out that facial hair has had a much more troubled history than I first imagined.

Coming in many shapes, sizes and colors, the beard is a prominent feature on most men who do not shave (and the occasional woman - though let's not go there). Today, pogonotrophy is normally accepted in society; but in the past, growing a beard could cause quite a few problems. Sprouting your manly facial hair could get you taxed, be a sign of rebellion against the church - or could even get you killed.

At the least, removal of facial hair can be painful. Archaeologists have found evidence that men started to shave off their beards as early as 100,000 BC. However, the the first razors discovered by archaeologists date back to 30,000 BC, and were made of flint. Thus, before then shaving was a painful ordeal. One who wanted a bare face would use two sea shells to grip their hair, then pull; a method which sounds even more distressing than getting a bikini wax.

Beards were in the vogue in Greek society, where a healthy beard was a sign of wisdom and knowledge. But then Alexander the Great came along and changed all that, for the sake of the military. He forced his soldiers to shave for fear that an enemy could use a man's beard to his disadvantage in close combat. He thought that the enemy would grab it during hand-to-hand struggles, though I would be more worried about the pain of someone ripping my beard off. In contrast, the slaves, who were normally made to shave, were then ordered to grow out their stubble. Far be it for slaves to be equally fashionable as their masters.

The beard eventually came back into fashion, but a few rulers objected to their presence. In 1698, Peter I of Russia commanded his courtiers and officials to cut off their beards. To add insult to injury, he would sometimes personally shave the beards of his noblemen. Those wishing to keep their beards had to pay a tax - 100 rubles each year - as well as carry around a medal proclaiming that "beards are a ridiculous ornament." A similar taxation was passed by England's Henry VIII in 1535 - who, hypocritically, continued to grow a beard of his own. It's good to be the king.

Henry VIII and his beardLuckily for English clergymen, priests already kept their faces clean-shaven as a sign of their celibacy. So, when the protestant reformation began in the 16th century, protestant priests would grow their beards out in protest of the old ways. In this case, size mattered; the greater the beard, the greater the protest. This move was well-timed with the reign of Elizabeth I, who decided to tax beards again in the same vein as Henry VIII - either for her dislike of beards, or for money. A government's got to generate revenue somehow, right?

The growing (or cutting) of a beard has had some important symbolic references in the past. Roman boys would not remove any facial hair until they had reached adulthood, then would shave as an offering to the gods. More towards the East, one punishment for crimes was to have one's beard removed in public. In America, an Amish man will keep a clean-shaven face until he has married, after which he will grow a beard which he will keep forever. In the Chatti, a German tribe, a man was not allowed to shave until he had killed an enemy!

In modern times, many police and military forces prohibit beards for one important reason that came up during World War I. In order to get a clean seal on a gas mask, you must have a clean face, so soldiers made sure to shave. They may or may not have been worried about the pulling of beards during hand-to-hand combat, as Alexander the Great was. Regardless, in a choice between shaving my beard and dying a horrible death via biochemical warfare, I'd go with the one that involves staying alive.

Of course, I cannot grow a beard, and maybe I should be grateful for that. Given the colorful history of beards, I may be better off without one.
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Reply #199 posted 04/09/09 2:55pm

diiinnnooo

ohh it was so close, darn...
Prince never gets what he deseves, people who aren't his fans don't give him any attention sad
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Reply #200 posted 04/09/09 3:02pm

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diiinnnooo said:

Prince never gets what he deseves,

Amen. Though, I think we're referring to entirely different things...

diiinnnooo said:

people who aren't his fans don't give him any attention sad

Funny the way that works, innit?
• Did you first think Prince was gay? •

Wendy: He’s a girl, for sure, but he’s not gay. He looked at me like a gay woman would look at another woman. Lisa: Totally. He’s like a fancy lesbian.
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Reply #201 posted 04/09/09 4:24pm

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Reply #202 posted 04/09/09 4:28pm

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nubrownsoul said:

Thanks to my parents' genes, I simply do not grow facial hair. I never have, unless you count microscopic stubble in the same ranks as a full beard. It certainly makes me a little jealous, especially when there are groups around promoting goodwill and happiness through the growth of a beard. So imagine my surprise when I found out that facial hair has had a much more troubled history than I first imagined.

Coming in many shapes, sizes and colors, the beard is a prominent feature on most men who do not shave (and the occasional woman - though let's not go there). Today, pogonotrophy is normally accepted in society; but in the past, growing a beard could cause quite a few problems. Sprouting your manly facial hair could get you taxed, be a sign of rebellion against the church - or could even get you killed.

At the least, removal of facial hair can be painful. Archaeologists have found evidence that men started to shave off their beards as early as 100,000 BC. However, the the first razors discovered by archaeologists date back to 30,000 BC, and were made of flint. Thus, before then shaving was a painful ordeal. One who wanted a bare face would use two sea shells to grip their hair, then pull; a method which sounds even more distressing than getting a bikini wax.

Beards were in the vogue in Greek society, where a healthy beard was a sign of wisdom and knowledge. But then Alexander the Great came along and changed all that, for the sake of the military. He forced his soldiers to shave for fear that an enemy could use a man's beard to his disadvantage in close combat. He thought that the enemy would grab it during hand-to-hand struggles, though I would be more worried about the pain of someone ripping my beard off. In contrast, the slaves, who were normally made to shave, were then ordered to grow out their stubble. Far be it for slaves to be equally fashionable as their masters.

The beard eventually came back into fashion, but a few rulers objected to their presence. In 1698, Peter I of Russia commanded his courtiers and officials to cut off their beards. To add insult to injury, he would sometimes personally shave the beards of his noblemen. Those wishing to keep their beards had to pay a tax - 100 rubles each year - as well as carry around a medal proclaiming that "beards are a ridiculous ornament." A similar taxation was passed by England's Henry VIII in 1535 - who, hypocritically, continued to grow a beard of his own. It's good to be the king.

Henry VIII and his beardLuckily for English clergymen, priests already kept their faces clean-shaven as a sign of their celibacy. So, when the protestant reformation began in the 16th century, protestant priests would grow their beards out in protest of the old ways. In this case, size mattered; the greater the beard, the greater the protest. This move was well-timed with the reign of Elizabeth I, who decided to tax beards again in the same vein as Henry VIII - either for her dislike of beards, or for money. A government's got to generate revenue somehow, right?

The growing (or cutting) of a beard has had some important symbolic references in the past. Roman boys would not remove any facial hair until they had reached adulthood, then would shave as an offering to the gods. More towards the East, one punishment for crimes was to have one's beard removed in public. In America, an Amish man will keep a clean-shaven face until he has married, after which he will grow a beard which he will keep forever. In the Chatti, a German tribe, a man was not allowed to shave until he had killed an enemy!

In modern times, many police and military forces prohibit beards for one important reason that came up during World War I. In order to get a clean seal on a gas mask, you must have a clean face, so soldiers made sure to shave. They may or may not have been worried about the pulling of beards during hand-to-hand combat, as Alexander the Great was. Regardless, in a choice between shaving my beard and dying a horrible death via biochemical warfare, I'd go with the one that involves staying alive.

Of course, I cannot grow a beard, and maybe I should be grateful for that. Given the colorful history of beards, I may be better off without one.


Okay, I'm confused. What does this have to do with Prince's CD not debuting at #1 on the Soundscan chart???? confuse confuse
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Reply #203 posted 04/09/09 4:33pm

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audience1 said:

Holy shit!!!
Good news!!!
Prince is #1 on the Target chart!!!


Detroit Free Press reports a Number 1 in Detroit, too.
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Reply #204 posted 04/09/09 6:10pm

audience1

NuPwr319 said:

audience1 said:

Holy shit!!!
Good news!!!
Prince is #1 on the Target chart!!!


Detroit Free Press reports a Number 1 in Detroit, too.


lol
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Reply #205 posted 04/09/09 7:17pm

jdcxc

It's a big label conspiracy. I'm too lazy to read this entire thread, but does anyone know how Billboard and Hits were so off?
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Reply #206 posted 04/09/09 7:25pm

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BanishedBrian said:

Frederick96 said:

If you included how many people bought from the website that may have been the difference.

That's possible. Of course, a lot of those people may have bought the retail anyway just to get C&C, the packaging, and to be "supportive".

Also, the flip side to this is that he sold two ablums for $12 (I consider Bria a freebee so I'm excluding that). If this was a single album being sold for full retail price, I'm not sure sales would have been as good.

Yes, being only at Target counters this as well, but I think the reduced price had a positive effect on sales. I was not willing to pay retail cost to get Musicology or 3121 or PE, but I was willing to pay $12 for this set. If the price had been $25 or $30, I'd have probably just skipped getting it.
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Reply #207 posted 04/09/09 7:27pm

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strutboy said:


I have spoken with Neilsen Soundscan - Billboard will factually tomorrow confirm Prince as #1. Their figure correlates.


So where's the confirmation, aye? falloff
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Reply #208 posted 04/09/09 7:30pm

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dartluv5 said:

Number 2? Doh!!!
Well, it's still very impressive for Prince to debut at #2 with little promotion and only using Target as his distributor. I just hope this doesn't discourage Prince from touring with this 3 cd set - that's what most worries me because he can loose interest in a project with the quickness (including everything that goes along with it) if it doesn't live up to his expectations.

If you're listening Prince, PLEASE TOUR THIS 3 CD SET!!! It's what most of us fans have been waiting for!! beg



I would think his major tour days are over . . .
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Reply #209 posted 04/09/09 7:54pm

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So what??? He's still at the top of MY LIST and thats all that counts in my mind. heart And besides, #2 is still fantastic seeing how he isnt signed to a major label and didnt do any guerilla marketing of his latest album and can still get 160,000 + fans to buy his (and Bria's wink) album!
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