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Printable stanleylieber said: purplecam said: But Billboard already has it in their news section that Keith Urban is at number 1. How can that change when it's already been made official by their own people? payola is a hell of a drug [Edited 4/8/09 9:39am] Well I hope someone is working overtime in the Prince camp to shell out that $.  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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is it possible that the numbers reported don't yet have sales from Prince's site - and would those even be included anyway? * * *
Prince's Classic Finally Expanded The Deluxe 'Purple Rain' Reissue http://www.popmatters.com...n-reissue/ | |
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NoVideo said: is it possible that the numbers reported don't yet have sales from Prince's site - and would those even be included anyway?
It was reported that the website memberships would not be counted. | |
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this whole confusion reminds me of the end of "the beautiful ones", ha. | |
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Booooo! Oh well, coming in at #2 is not so bad. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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purplecam said: thedance said: Damn. "why is Prince always #2 only..... now once again..."
Raspberry Beret, U Got The Look and even Purple Rain (the singles) only made it to #2 (If I remember right)!?  
[Edited 4/8/09 6:45am] You're right. This is just, man it sucks ass right now but he sold a lot. I just hope that Prince won't stop promoting this CD because of this. That's not impossible with him and that's what makes me worry. He needs to go on Oprah and get these sales to rise up. That will work for him if he does this. [Edited 4/8/09 6:48am] No worry, he still did a good job considering dealing with one retailer when you look at it. | |
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Militant said: strutboy said: No arrogance or offence meant, but given that I broke the Jackson Tour and the Prince 21 Nights tour news weeks in advance, which should lead you to conclude that I am in a rare information chain, I wouldn't doubt my understanding of how it works. Pretty sure ButterscotchPimp works (or used to work) for EMI, so I'd consider his word to be pretty credible as well. Not that yours isn't, though. Now I don't know what to believe! *sits back, grabs popcorn and hopes for Prince to be #1* I do still work for them. And in my 13 years on the job, i've rarely seen Soundscan revise a chart where the #1 changed. I'm not trying to position myself as the "Org Insider" or anything like that, and don't care to be that. I love the new album regardless of if it's #1 or #2. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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psychodelicide said: Booooo! Oh well, coming in at #2 is not so bad.
considering prince's album is only available at one store vs. the urban album being available presumably everywhere, it's pretty impressive, i think. | |
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All things considered, he sold his CD set exclusively to Target and limited his national promotion of LOTUSFLOW3R to just three late night performances on Jay Leno and yet still sold 168,000 copies while Keith Urban had blanket coverage of sales outlets like Walmart, Target, Amazon, and all of the remaining record stores out there, plus wall-to-wall radio airplay on country radio plus an appearance at the Academy of Country Music Awards and he only edged out Prince by about 3,000 copies. I'd say that Prince still did really well for himself.
And I wouldn't worry so much about the sales numbers as much as the quality of the album. LOTUSFLOW3R is a pretty awesome 2-disc set (not counting the added Bria Valente disc) and is one of his best albums in quite awhile. I was so anxious to get Mariah's E=MC2 CD when it came out about the same time last year, and it sold over 450,000 copies in the first week; but as much as I love Mariah, frankly that CD sucked.   So far, I've been listening to Prince's new albums almost non-stop.
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Anxiety said: psychodelicide said: Booooo! Oh well, coming in at #2 is not so bad.
considering prince's album is only available at one store vs. the urban album being available presumably everywhere, it's pretty impressive, i think. EXACTLY. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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#2 really is great, considering all the factors involved.
i'm glad there was no "we're #1" brag posted at lotusflow3r.com last night.  it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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The title of this thread made me think of Maury Povich, when he says, "You are NOT the father!"
Maury Povich: "We have the Soundscan chart results. Prince your CD is NOT #1!" Pissed off Prince fans stage a face-off, to demand exactly WHY Prince's CD did not come in in first place. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Anxiety said: psychodelicide said: Booooo! Oh well, coming in at #2 is not so bad.
considering prince's album is only available at one store vs. the urban album being available presumably everywhere, it's pretty impressive, i think. Oh, definitely!  RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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psychodelicide said: The title of this thread made me think of Maury Povich, when he says, "You are NOT the father!"
Maury Povich: "We have the Soundscan chart results. Prince your CD is NOT #1!" Pissed off Prince fans stage a face-off, to demand exactly WHY Prince's CD did not come in in first place.  I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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This hype over 1st week sales is a waste of time.
The real question is: Do U like the material? Does the public know that it is available? Do they have access 2 buy it? Are they interested in the material? | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: psychodelicide said: The title of this thread made me think of Maury Povich, when he says, "You are NOT the father!"
Maury Povich: "We have the Soundscan chart results. Prince your CD is NOT #1!" Pissed off Prince fans stage a face-off, to demand exactly WHY Prince's CD did not come in in first place.  RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Graycap23 said: This hype over 1st week sales is a waste of time.
The real question is: Do U like the material? Does the public know that it is available? Do they have access 2 buy it? Are they interested in the material? everyone knows that.  it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: Graycap23 said: This hype over 1st week sales is a waste of time.
The real question is: Do U like the material? Does the public know that it is available? Do they have access 2 buy it? Are they interested in the material? everyone knows that. Then why is this thread up to 76 replys?.....lol | |
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Prince should sue. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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2elijah said: purplecam said: You're right. This is just, man it sucks ass right now but he sold a lot. I just hope that Prince won't stop promoting this CD because of this. That's not impossible with him and that's what makes me worry. He needs to go on Oprah and get these sales to rise up. That will work for him if he does this. [Edited 4/8/09 6:48am] No worry, he still did a good job considering dealing with one retailer when you look at it. He really did. When it's said and done, this is a big success. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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psychodelicide said: The title of this thread made me think of Maury Povich, when he says, "You are NOT the father!"
Maury Povich: "We have the Soundscan chart results. Prince your CD is NOT #1!" Pissed off Prince fans stage a face-off, to demand exactly WHY Prince's CD did not come in in first place. Good one Psychodelicide! I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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I don't understand...what's so bad about #2?  surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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Graycap23 said: stanleylieber said: everyone knows that. Then why is this thread up to 76 replys?.....lol because for obvious reasons prince scoring a #1 independent of record labels would be big/great news for prince and prince fans alike. it's not that the charts matter in terms of enjoying the music, but the impact of his new releases definitely has an affect on how he chooses to proceed in the future. chart success or chart failure also help define his options if he chooses to work with a label again. being able to point to a recent #1 gives him more bargaining power, regardless of the crooked nature of the charts. it's a complex game! it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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KidaDynamite said: I don't understand...what's so bad about #2?
I don't get it either. At all. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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ButterscotchPimp said: Sorry to break the news to all of you, but Prince didn't debut at #1. He came in at #2. Here's the ACTUAL Soundscan chart.
____ ____ ____ _____ _____ _____ _____ 1 * URBAN*KEITH DEFYING GRAVITY 171,525 22 779559% 171,547 2 * PRINCE LOTUS FLOW3R 168,420 38 443111% 168,458 3 * KRALL*DIANA QUIET NIGHTS 104,023 351 29536% 104,374 4 VARIOUS NOW 30 87,494 145,976 -40% 233,505 5 HANNAH MONTANA HANNAH MOVIE SNDTRK 86,501 138,700 -38% 225,281 6 * UGK UGK 4 LIFE 76,419 181 42120% 76,600 7 TWILIGHT SOUNDTRACK 73,492 102,012 -28% 1,720,313 8 * FLO RIDA R.O.O.T.S. (ROOT OF OVERCOMING 55,285 71 77766% 55,356 9 * LADY GAGA FAME 51,139 45,279 13% 602,694 10 SWIFT*TAYLOR FEARLESS 41,557 39,532 5% 2,977,444 11 HILSON*KERI IN A PERFECT WORLD... 37,030 94,078 -61% 131,527 12 U2 NO LINE ON THE HORIZON 35,989 51,179 -30% 780,478 13 * BOTTI*CHRIS CHRIS BOTTI LIVE IN BOSTON 35,746 369 9587% 36,116 14 CLARKSON*KELLY ALL I EVER WANTED 33,897 51,608 -34% 431,129 15 * ATKINS*RODNEY IT'S AMERICA 33,643 7 480514% 33,699 16 * BOW WOW NEW JACK CITY PT II 30,851 93 33073% 30,944 17 NICKELBACK DARK HORSE 29,074 30,156 -4% 1,770,067 18 THE-DREAM LOVE VS. MONEY 28,548 35,967 -21% 271,491 19 * DEGRAW*GAVIN FREE 26,194 20 130870% 26,214 20 * COOK*DAVID DAVID COOK 24,769 7,300 239% 1,067,673 21 BEYONCE I AM...SASHA FIERCE 22,820 22,798 0% 2,049,519 22 * YEAH YEAH YEAHS IT'S BLITZ! 21,763 3,495 523% 42,941 23 FOXX*JAMIE INTUITION 21,359 21,753 -2% 808,181 24 T.I. PAPER TRAIL 21,250 20,067 6% 1,858,062 25 * QUEENSRYCHE AMERICAN SOLDIER 20,993 45 46551% 21,038 26 * MCCLURKIN*DONNIE LIVE IN DETROIT 20,548 387 5210% 19,073 27 FRAY*THE FRAY 19,306 18,629 4% 451,488 28 KINGS OF LEON ONLY BY THE NIGHT 17,988 18,013 0% 565,430 29 BROWN*ZAC BAND FOUNDATION 17,759 16,361 9% 393,115 30 MRAZ*JASON WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THIN 17,133 19,045 -10% 1,081,739 31 ADELE 19 16,932 21,364 -21% 581,034 32 SLIM THUG BOSS OF ALL BOSSES 16,891 32,479 -48% 49,612 33 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE CARNIVAL RIDE 16,231 16,775 -3% 2,735,990 34 PAPA ROACH METAMORPHOSIS 15,984 44,449 -64% 60,582 35 RICH*JOHN SON OF A PREACHER MAN 15,331 30,878 -50% 46,210 36 MCBRIDE*MARTINA SHINE 15,090 41,457 -64% 56,565 37 * SWIFT*TAYLOR TAYLOR SWIFT 14,231 12,599 13% 4,049,276 38 * VARIOUS ARTISTS SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE (MUSIC FRO 13,900 10,907 27% 265,479 39 RUCKER*DARIUS LEARN TO LIVE 13,775 13,878 -1% 549,375 40 JONES*JIM PRAY IV REIGN 13,704 42,818 -68% 56,686 41 * DEATH CAB FOR CUTIE OPEN DOOR 13,590 0 #DIV/0! 13,590 42 * SILVERSTEIN SHIPWRECK IN THE SAND 13,465 76 17617% 13,541 43 SPEARS*BRITNEY CIRCUS 13,450 13,736 -2% 1,478,812 44 MASTODON CRACK THE SKYE 13,427 41,395 -68% 55,187 45 P!NK FUNHOUSE 13,272 13,602 -2% 976,809 46 VARIOUS NOW POWER BALLADS 13,068 17,346 -25% 30,417 47 * NICKS*STEVIE SOUNDSTAGE SESSIONS 13,052 76 17074% 13,130 48 THEORY OF A DEADMAN SCARS & SOUVENIRS 13,035 11,857 10% 423,710 49 BLUE OCTOBER APPROACHING NORM 12,089 37,160 -67% 49,356 50 SUGARLAND LOVE ON THE INSIDE 11,905 11,221 6% 1,489,481 And it doesn't make the album any less impressive. STRANGE VERY STRANGE | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: KidaDynamite said: I don't understand...what's so bad about #2?
I don't get it either. At all. i bet if you were in the room with prince at this precise moment you'd know. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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purplecam said: psychodelicide said: The title of this thread made me think of Maury Povich, when he says, "You are NOT the father!"
Maury Povich: "We have the Soundscan chart results. Prince your CD is NOT #1!" Pissed off Prince fans stage a face-off, to demand exactly WHY Prince's CD did not come in in first place. Good one Psychodelicide! Thanks. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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WAIT... maybe the music industry doesn´t want Prince 2 be number 1 .
and voila They make Urban" >#1. geting my drift`????? [Edited 4/8/09 10:27am] | |
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Most people here were celebrating before the votes were counted. http://www.goldiesparade.co.uk/ - Prince discography, tour history, news and more. | |
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stanleylieber said: #2 really is great, considering all the factors involved.
i'm glad there was no "we're #1" brag posted at lotusflow3r.com last night. Just you wait. He'll have dr. marionberry throw some lame shit out about how he was robbed, and all the TRUE funk soldiers ( ) should rally 'round the purple temple.
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