blkgem616 said:

It debuted at number one on r&b and Independent.

ButterscotchPimp said:

I have spoken with Neilsen Soundscan - Billboard will factually tomorrow confirm Prince as #1. Their figure correlates.

I have spoken with Neilsen Soundscan - Billboard will factually tomorrow confirm Prince as #1. Their figure correlates.

The real success is seeing how this CD does from this point out. Can it stay on the top 10 or even top 20 next weekend? What is Prince going to do promotionwise with this CD? This is going to be very interesting.

Again, (and i can't believe it's ME that has to do this) I feel the need to get ya'll to focus on a couple of things.

Firstly, the album is AMAZING. Debuting at #2 doesn't make the album any less impressive than it is.

Secondly, Prince limited himself by only releasing the album at Target. To be honest, if he hadn't done that who knows what the debut might have been? And the fact that he came in at #2 and it was only sold at one retailer, makes #2 actually MORE impressive in my book.

(this is a WEIRD day on the Org when i'm the positive one)
(maybe i should go back to bed)

purplecam said:

LOL I was going to wait for things to die down around here before i gave my review of the album, but I went in totally prepared to hate the album and was completely blown away.

THAT's the Prince i'd been waiting to hear for a LONG time.

ButterscotchPimp said:

Good point!

For me the issue is: Where did the 17,498 copies sold go? If each Target store reports to Soundscan, and the chain sold 185,956, as reported by Hits Daily Double, why is Soundscan only reporting 168,458 copies sold. I understand that the numbers between Soundscan and Hits Daily Double are not going to extactly match, but the number sold off by 17,498 copies is rare. Either Soundscan removed sales of the album, or Target inflated their sales. Did Soundscan received data that Target scanned a bunch of CD that were not really sold, such as scanning the barcode with no price. Or the Target number is correct and Prince is right and knew all along that Soundscan as part of the Music Industry purposely removed the copies and placed Lotusflow3r at number 2.

The other thing that seems strange to me is the number 1 placing of the CD on the R&B chart. I've been out of the music industry for a long time, but if I remember correctly the R&B data is gathered from a core panel of stores that serves and specializes in the Urban Market. So my question is how many Target stores are located in these markets and did the CD sell enough for the number one R&B placing.
[Edited 4/8/09 17:52pm]

My 2 Cents -- I think what Prince has done is amazing. With no lable or radio support, no manager (i think he really needs one) and only one major retailer. No 2 is an awsome feat for him. I think what some dont get, or maybe they do, is how HARD it is the break a no.1 these days (single or cd). Also keeping in mind the age thing, not many 51 year old's cracking the top ten, back to back.

I think Prince is manhandeling the music business, as intended. Of course a no 1 would be always b a welcome treat, but I believe everytime his CD's crack the top ten, he is teaching many of us, including record co. and radio, how to survie, in a mostly one-sided business. If u were on the other side (record co & radio), I wonder how agressivly u would defend ur turf.....

I want to play the race card for this..(pulls the race card out of my jacket pocket and slams it on the table) ITS BECAUSE PRINCE IS BLACK!!!!! RACIST BILLBOARD BASTARDS

yount!

For me the issue is: Where did the 17,498 copies sold go? If each Target store reports to Soundscan, and the chain sold 185,956, as reported by Hits Daily Double, why is Soundscan only reporting 168,458 copies sold. I understand that the numbers between Soundscan and Hits Daily Double are not going to extactly match, but the number sold off by 17,498 copies is rare. Either Soundscan removed sales of the album, or Target inflated their sales. Did Soundscan received data that Target scanned a bunch of CD that were not really sold, such as scanning the barcode with no price. Or the Target number is correct and Prince is right and knew all along that Soundscan as part of the Music Industry purposely removed the copies and placed Lotusflow3r at number 2.

The other thing that seems strange to me is the number 1 placing of the CD on the R&B chart. I've been out of the music industry for a long time, but if I remember correctly the R&B data is gathered from a core panel of stores that serves and specializes in the Urban Market. So my question is how many Target stores are located in these markets and did the CD sell enough for the number one R&B placing.
[Edited 4/8/09 17:52pm]

ButterscotchPimp said:

What drugs are u on? I've heard the albumssss 3 times and cant remember not ONE song eyewaslefthungry

are you kidding me? you can't remember ONE song out of the entire package? Dreamer, Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful, Chocolate Box, i could keep doing this.

The title of this thread made me think of Maury Povich, when he says, "You are NOT the father!"



Maury Povich: "We have the Soundscan chart results. Prince your CD is NOT #1!"

Pissed off Prince fans stage a face-off, to demand exactly WHY Prince's CD did not come in in first place.

purplecam said:

LOL I was going to wait for things to die down around here before i gave my review of the album, but I went in totally prepared to hate the album and was completely blown away.

THAT's the Prince i'd been waiting to hear for a LONG time.
I even give Lotusflow3r a nudge over my beloved Rainbow Children because the subject matter isn't so heavy.

I'll admit i haven't listened to Bria's disc yet because i didn't want to ruin the high i got from listening to the Prince discs.

YES, for now i'm carrying my P torch once again.

psychodelicide said:

aaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha

For me the issue is: Where did the 17,498 copies sold go? If each Target store reports to Soundscan, and the chain sold 185,956, as reported by Hits Daily Double, why is Soundscan only reporting 168,458 copies sold. I understand that the numbers between Soundscan and Hits Daily Double are not going to extactly match, but the number sold off by 17,498 copies is rare. Either Soundscan removed sales of the album, or Target inflated their sales. Did Soundscan received data that Target scanned a bunch of CD that were not really sold, such as scanning the barcode with no price. Or the Target number is correct and Prince is right and knew all along that Soundscan as part of the Music Industry purposely removed the copies and placed Lotusflow3r at number 2.

The other thing that seems strange to me is the number 1 placing of the CD on the R&B chart. I've been out of the music industry for a long time, but if I remember correctly the R&B data is gathered from a core panel of stores that serves and specializes in the Urban Market. So my question is how many Target stores are located in these markets and did the CD sell enough for the number one R&B placing.[Edited 4/8/09 17:52pm]

Our man has been robbed....I knew it...Who the Hell is Keith Urban...Cheat! , Fix, some record company P.A took a big van to all the major record stores on Tuesday and paid for 4,000 copies.....