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Printable Lilith said: thedribbler said: is marriage in itself an act of violence?
**** Yes, it could b if its without LOVE and RESPECT..... But love has a life of it's own! It doesn't tolerate being tampered with. And like all living what d' y' call 'ems it dies! And death rarely fits into our agenda, ain't that right, Lillith? | |
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But love has a life of it's own!
It doesn't tolerate being tampered with. And like all living what d' y' call 'ems it dies! And death rarely fits into our agenda, ain't that right, Lillith?[/quote] ***** Yes, U have reason. Love goes beyond a signed sheet.... | |
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Hmph. He's a talented artist but a shit human being. What he has in music skills, he lacks in people skills. "You know, you're the classic example of the inverse ratio between the size of the mouth and the size of the brain" | |
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This lawsuit shit is so tired. Get over it, get real and get back to making music that matters. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Does anyone think that thread about the drug use had anything to do with this latest action? | |
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Stymie said: Does anyone think that thread about the drug use had anything to do with this latest action?
link? My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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ufoclub said: Stymie said: Does anyone think that thread about the drug use had anything to do with this latest action?
link? | |
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The NPG sent us an email many years ago, denying us the use of certain album covers for the discography.
Later, we were treathened with legal action over the streaming of videos from YouTube. Today we were informed that we had to remove all pictures of Prince. i don't know all the details of this latest issue. but, i have no problem with prince protecting himself from copyright violations. it's definitely not okay to illegally publish copyrighted material on the internet (or encourage illegal publication thereof) | |
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XxAxX said: The NPG sent us an email many years ago, denying us the use of certain album covers for the discography.
Later, we were treathened with legal action over the streaming of videos from YouTube. Today we were informed that we had to remove all pictures of Prince. i don't know all the details of this latest issue. but, i have no problem with prince protecting himself from copyright violations. it's definitely not okay to illegally publish copyrighted material on the internet (or encourage illegal publication thereof) Can anyone establish the "harm" involved in fans putting up sites in honor of their hero? Assuming they aren't making money, which they likely weren't, how is Prince harmed in the posting of his pictures, discographies and all that stuff? These people are responsible for keeping his ass RICH. I want to know how they are harming him by posting pictures.... 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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i think that is very small-minded and selfish of him. i know he's done this type of thing before... guess he figures he has a big and solid enough fan base that he can lose a few listeners and still sleep good at night.  | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: XxAxX said: i don't know all the details of this latest issue. but, i have no problem with prince protecting himself from copyright violations. it's definitely not okay to illegally publish copyrighted material on the internet (or encourage illegal publication thereof) Can anyone establish the "harm" involved in fans putting up sites in honor of their hero? Assuming they aren't making money, which they likely weren't, how is Prince harmed in the posting of his pictures, discographies and all that stuff? These people are responsible for keeping his ass RICH. I want to know how they are harming him by posting pictures.... doesn't matter. if people are abusing copyrighted material they should stop. | |
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XxAxX said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Can anyone establish the "harm" involved in fans putting up sites in honor of their hero? Assuming they aren't making money, which they likely weren't, how is Prince harmed in the posting of his pictures, discographies and all that stuff? These people are responsible for keeping his ass RICH. I want to know how they are harming him by posting pictures.... doesn't matter. if people are abusing copyrighted material they should stop. What is the abuse in posting pictures on a fan site where no money is being generated? I know the law is on his side but I want to know what the law considers "harm" for him to be able to trip like a petulant bitch at every turn of the road.... 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: XxAxX said: doesn't matter. if people are abusing copyrighted material they should stop. What is the abuse in posting pictures on a fan site where no money is being generated? I know the law is on his side but I want to know what the law considers "harm" for him to be able to trip like a petulant bitch at every turn of the road.... Just take, for example, the use of his picture with inserted "orger" captions. (Shut Up Already, Not This Again, etc.) Or. for that matter, use of any copyrighted material (movie, video and publicity stills, etc.) Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: What is the abuse in posting pictures on a fan site where no money is being generated? I know the law is on his side but I want to know what the law considers "harm" for him to be able to trip like a petulant bitch at every turn of the road.... Just take, for example, the use of his picture with inserted "orger" captions. (Shut Up Already, Not This Again, etc.) Or. for that matter, use of any copyrighted material (movie, video and publicity stills, etc.) I'm retarded and don't understand what you are getting at. Is it considered defamation of character? What if the pictures are simply posted in an appreciation thread or as part of the site? I don't see the harm. Prince is a control freak and needs medication in the worst way  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR IS EXACTLY WHY PRINCE IS WHERE HE IS TODAY....
A washoout 80's Icon that is addicted to control. It has affected hie music, his live shows, his errr, eh Movies? If you can call them that. He had some brilliant moments in Pop Culture and when he has a little humility sometimes he can write a descent tune, but the man is too into himself and it shows. His music is sooooo tired. It makes zero sense that he bothers bullying little fan sites!!! What a loser. [Edited 1/2/07 12:56pm] | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: namepeace said: Just take, for example, the use of his picture with inserted "orger" captions. (Shut Up Already, Not This Again, etc.) Or. for that matter, use of any copyrighted material (movie, video and publicity stills, etc.) I'm retarded and don't understand what you are getting at. Is it considered defamation of character? What if the pictures are simply posted in an appreciation thread or as part of the site? I don't see the harm. Prince is a control freak and needs medication in the worst way If you're using copyrighted material, which in many instances can be used fairly, there may be instances where profit and intent are not determinative factors. You're still using a material without the permission of the author. It is much harder to regulate usage of images in cyberspace, but Prince is likely strategically targeting sites with a heavy volume of materials featuring his likeness to send a message to all other sites he can't get to. Again, it may be wrong of him in some sense to pursue legal action, but it is his right. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I'm retarded and don't understand what you are getting at. Is it considered defamation of character? What if the pictures are simply posted in an appreciation thread or as part of the site? I don't see the harm. Prince is a control freak and needs medication in the worst way If you're using copyrighted material, which in many instances can be used fairly, there may be instances where profit and intent are not determinative factors. You're still using a material without the permission of the author. It is much harder to regulate usage of images in cyberspace, but Prince is likely strategically targeting sites with a heavy volume of materials featuring his likeness to send a message to all other sites he can't get to. Again, it may be wrong of him in some sense to pursue legal action, but it is his right. But what is considered the "harm" by the law? That's what I want to know. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: namepeace said: If you're using copyrighted material, which in many instances can be used fairly, there may be instances where profit and intent are not determinative factors. You're still using a material without the permission of the author. It is much harder to regulate usage of images in cyberspace, but Prince is likely strategically targeting sites with a heavy volume of materials featuring his likeness to send a message to all other sites he can't get to. Again, it may be wrong of him in some sense to pursue legal action, but it is his right. But what is considered the "harm" by the law? That's what I want to know. unfortunately, there is no one definition of "harm". That truly is a jury call. It is up to a jury to determine if you have been "harmed" by the action, and if they determine you have, then they get to determine to what extent, and then once they determine that, they get to determine the amount of damages you have incurred as a result of the action...and, the type and amount of damages vary, some are set by law (such as actual damages) and others are not (such as punitive damages). am i making sense? Ok, so, I don't have time to read 20 pages of this thread..read the first couple, then jumped to the end can someone sum up for me what actually happened? His reps contated princefams about something on their site (but still don't know what)....and that is all I have gotten so far out of the first couple pages. | |
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purplecam said: Stymie said:  I would love to see the letter for myself.
My thoughts about all of this is first, there is no solidarity amongst websites. We're all too busy trying to say one is better than the other. Talking about people behind their backs, yada yada. Second, there was a person on this site that used my picture without my permission. That was not cool and I am not understanding why we want something from a person that we would not want someone to do to us. I do not care that he is a public figure, if he asks, why not comply with that? Next, I will never understand in twelve lifetimes why people say really fucked up things about Prince here and abroad and keep coming back for more. And lastly, why do people keep acting brand new? Is there anyone left in Prince fanworld that doesn't know how he feels about unauthorized use of his image or videos? Stymie, you must have dug into my head cause these are the questions that have been rolling in my head since last night when I heard about this. This should not be new to anyone who's been a fan for at least 10 years now. This is business as usual but Prince will always be seen as the bad guy in all of this. Even when he tries to do something great for us, people here and on all the other Prince fansites rip him to shreads. Some of the "fans" haven't liked a Prince album since 1988 or 1995 and yet they come here to bitch and moan and "hope" the next albums any good when they know full well they'll hate it as much as they hated the last CD. Whatever. I'm amazed he even bothers with us sometimes. I agree too purplecam.One of these days maybe all the b***** and moaning about Prince and all the negative stuff that's said about him on this site and the others, will contribute in closing this site down and I'm sure they don't want that to happen. I think Prince has been cool with his fans with pre-sale tickets for past concerts and also has been very cordial with his fans at his shows;not only performing in the club, but also doing an aftershow for the lucky ones that are able to be there. Not to mention the soundchecks some of us were lucky to be invited to. It's no secret that he does not want pictures posted without permission or insulting video spoofs and pictures regarding him or anyone from his camp, so why not honor his wishes? It's disrespectful not to. Prince is alright with me, I have no complaints. [Edited 1/2/07 13:56pm] | |
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txladykat said: unfortunately, there is no one definition of "harm". That truly is a jury call. It is up to a jury to determine if you have been "harmed" by the action, and if they determine you have, then they get to determine to what extent, and then once they determine that, they get to determine the amount of damages you have incurred as a result of the action...and, the type and amount of damages vary, some are set by law (such as actual damages) and others are not (such as punitive damages). am i making sense?
Yes indeed. That was a scholarly answer. Supa, also keep in mind that under federal copyright and trademark law there could be remedies for treble damages and attorney's fees (which could be substantial). Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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I recently saw Carrie Fisher's one woman show at the Geffen, in which she tells the story of George Lucas owning her image!
Every time she looks in the mirror, she has to send George two bucks! | |
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babynoz said: WWJD?
That is the stoopidest thing i ever heard.....if he takes his drawing card ( namely the gallery) off the site what else is there to keep fams interested??? we'll just all meet up in ebony friends or blackplanet or yahoo or sumthin...get real he ain't all that.....even to me!!!! he'll get lost in vegas and so who wants to see a fat cigarette smokin old ass vintage guitar player????? who ran off all his band members and friends.. he's being greedy anyway.....  ( duh...ELVIS anyone???)
What would James do??? THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]
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2elijah said: purplecam said: Stymie, you must have dug into my head cause these are the questions that have been rolling in my head since last night when I heard about this. This should not be new to anyone who's been a fan for at least 10 years now. This is business as usual but Prince will always be seen as the bad guy in all of this. Even when he tries to do something great for us, people here and on all the other Prince fansites rip him to shreads. Some of the "fans" haven't liked a Prince album since 1988 or 1995 and yet they come here to bitch and moan and "hope" the next albums any good when they know full well they'll hate it as much as they hated the last CD. Whatever. I'm amazed he even bothers with us sometimes. I agree too purplecam.One of these days maybe all the b***** and moaning about Prince and all the negative stuff that's said about him on this site and the others, will contribute in closing this site down and I'm sure they don't want that to happen. I think Prince has been cool with his fans with pre-sale tickets for past concerts and also has been very cordial with his fans at his shows;not only performing in the club, but also doing an aftershow for the lucky ones that are able to be there. Not to mention the soundchecks some of us were lucky to be invited to. It's no secret that he does not want pictures posted without permission or insulting video spoofs and pictures regarding him or anyone from his camp, so why not honor his wishes? It's disrespectful not to. Prince is alright with me, I have no complaints. [Edited 1/2/07 13:56pm] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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dlovely said: I recently saw Carrie Fisher's one woman show at the Geffen, in which she tells the story of George Lucas owning her image!
Every time she looks in the mirror, she has to send George two bucks!  I'll bet that was a funny show. She has always made me laugh in interviews. | |
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Lilith said: But love has a life of it's own!
It doesn't tolerate being tampered with. And like all living what d' y' call 'ems it dies! And death rarely fits into our agenda, ain't that right, Lillith? ***** Yes, U have reason. Love goes beyond a signed sheet....[/quote] But love can, and often does perish very quickly. | |
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2elijah said: purplecam said: Stymie, you must have dug into my head cause these are the questions that have been rolling in my head since last night when I heard about this. This should not be new to anyone who's been a fan for at least 10 years now. This is business as usual but Prince will always be seen as the bad guy in all of this. Even when he tries to do something great for us, people here and on all the other Prince fansites rip him to shreads. Some of the "fans" haven't liked a Prince album since 1988 or 1995 and yet they come here to bitch and moan and "hope" the next albums any good when they know full well they'll hate it as much as they hated the last CD. Whatever. I'm amazed he even bothers with us sometimes. I agree too purplecam.One of these days maybe all the b***** and moaning about Prince and all the negative stuff that's said about him on this site and the others, will contribute in closing this site down and I'm sure they don't want that to happen. I think Prince has been cool with his fans with pre-sale tickets for past concerts and also has been very cordial with his fans at his shows;not only performing in the club, but also doing an aftershow for the lucky ones that are able to be there. Not to mention the soundchecks some of us were lucky to be invited to. It's no secret that he does not want pictures posted without permission or insulting video spoofs and pictures regarding him or anyone from his camp, so why not honor his wishes? It's disrespectful not to. Prince is alright with me, I have no complaints. [Edited 1/2/07 13:56pm] I still can't believe people are getting upset over this. As the two of you and others have stated it's a known fact that P doesn't like his image to be paraded around and slapped on boots and used any old kind of way. Yet people continue to do so. It's akin to the folks here who post links to unrealeased videos and ask where can they find bootlegged materials and then whine when their post gets deleted or locked --- even though it says in big fat fucking lettering on the top of the freaking page not to do that. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Stymie said: Does anyone think that thread about the drug use had anything to do with this latest action?
Not at all. The same topic has been discussed here ad nauseum over the years. Besides, from what I read on that thread most those folks seem to be making up stuff as they type. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Ifsixwuz9 said: Stymie said: Does anyone think that thread about the drug use had anything to do with this latest action?
Not at all. The same topic has been discussed here ad nauseum over the years. Besides, from what I read on that thread most those folks seem to be making up stuff as they type.  | |
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mschirmer said: THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR IS EXACTLY WHY PRINCE IS WHERE HE IS TODAY....
He's a loser and yet he manages to continuously have fan upon fan post about how much they can't stand him. A washoout 80's Icon that is addicted to control. It has affected hie music, his live shows, his errr, eh Movies? If you can call them that. He had some brilliant moments in Pop Culture and when he has a little humility sometimes he can write a descent tune, but the man is too into himself and it shows. His music is sooooo tired. It makes zero sense that he bothers bullying little fan sites!!! What a loser. [Edited 1/2/07 12:56pm]
Will y'all please piss or get off the pot? Folks, you do not have to like a person personally because you dig their music. I go outta my way to make sure I don't know what celebrtites are like and folks shold not be making folks role models. Some of you need to stop holding this guy up to standards you don't have for yourself and people around you. | |
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I wouldn't be surprised if he got Booed, at the Grammys or Superbowl, or his next Public appearance and I know he doesn't want that because it used to happen in the old days when he walked on stage. | |
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