I have to ask these questions. Why is it that if anyone here sees things on Prince's side, they must be labeled a "Purple Kool-Aid Drinker"? Why would it be wrong to be objective over the whole thing or even defend Prince if that's what happens? It's alright to dog someone here who supports Prince but if anyone challenges someone who doesn't see Prince's side, you can call them every kind of crazy. Why is agreeing to disagree so damn tough here?

What gets me is the fact that people are still shocked by this behavior of Prince's. I said it earlier in the post, this has been happening for almost 10 years now and if you haven't realized that, then you are going to keep on being hurt. I wish Prince woldn't keep on doing this kind of thing BUT we know he does this so why be shocked? Hell I'm not even mad, it's what it is but if you think Prince has done you wrong, you need to go and go NOW cause this is not going to end anytime soon. There is no point in being mad, either accept it or go. Arguing isn't going to change this man. Litigation might but even with that, he'll still go after sites that handle his image in a way he won't like. Uptown did it and won but then he went after HQ not too long afterwards. Maybe I'm just numb to it but like I said earlier, it is what it is, right or wrong and for me, I'm tring to find the balance in all of this.
[Edited 1/1/07 7:25am]

alwayslate said:

First of all, I've been to three Prince concerts, The Tamar show in March and opening weekend in Vegas, which were kick ass performance and you can check the concert reviews of others who shared my view. They were good performances.

Second of all, you're still missing my point, if a musician pissed on me like you said, who continues to do things that makes me angry, and I BELIEVE that he does not care about his fans or shits on his fans' not only would I not buy his stuff anymore I would not even bother to visit fansites built in his name, especially if that musician made me angry year after year after year. My time is too precious to waste on someone I consider an ass and who I believe can't stand me as a fan. But it seems that people who hate Prince keep coming back for more in various ways.. Like I said, what you do with your time is your business, but it doesn't make sense to me, and we can disagree with that.
[Edited 1/1/07 7:41am]

wonder505 said:

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umm, this community has kinda evolved beyond the "prince worship shrine" a long time ago. not only that but just because you don't like the current era that an artist is going through it doesn't mean that you are no longer a fan.

look at it his way, for me: i know prince shits on his fans...i don't find his albums all that great anymore...but i love me some of his concerts...and i love hanging out here chilling with folks that i have met or will eventually meet at concerts.

anyhoo...what was i saying? i think its time for my latest round of theruflu.

xplnyrslf said:

Jim Jones huh? That's funny coming from someone who was planning a VIP trip to go see Prince in Vegas, someone who you consider an ass and who thinks he probably hates does not give a fuck about you as a fan.

and about your Jim Jones comment, back in '91 I stop listening to Prince, and removed myself from Prince world for 13 years. Unlike some of you, I actually had the ovaries to up and leave and devote my time elsewhere, and came back after Musicology, only because I missed his music and obviously don't share this angry sentiment that many of you do.

So no I don't drink anybody's Koolaid, especially a musician that would make me angry year after year, then again, if he did, I wouldn't be here.
[Edited 1/1/07 10:20am]

whats going on with this thread all of a sudden?

sosgemini said:

i don't see the Org or Housequake as "prince workship shrine", but that's cool. wWhat I'm observing goes beyond not liking his stuff and being upset with some of his decisions. I'm talking about folks who get angry year after year, despises Prince and believes he does not like them as fans or does not care about them as a fan. You would not catch me at this person's concerts or spending so much time on fansites. That's just me.
[Edited 1/1/07 7:56am]

alwayslate said- "There are puh-lenty of horrible people that made good music (Jimi, Miles just to name a couple)."

Just wondering if you could explain what you meant by that.
[Edited 1/1/07 8:10am]

7kisses4U said:

Miles Davis beat his wife, the famous Cicely Tyson, just like Ike beat Tina Turner... and he was a heroin junkie at one point... he lived hard.

If Prince alienates fans etc , maybe he feels... f'em if they are unwilling to parlay to my standards.

ufoclub said:

miles and cicely were married? wow...learn something new here everyday.

is marriage in itself an act of violence?

sosgemini said:

Lawyers aren't scared of other lawyers. Matt might be nice with his but that won't stop Prince's lawyers from suing him if they have the chance.

And the "fair use" aspects of it aren't so cut and dried if you're using depictions of video and movie footage as opposed to photos taken by the user.

(btw, the way you stop something like this is to notice Prince's deposition once he sues you. IIRC that's what Uptown did.)

namepeace said:

me thinks you misunderstood my point...the point i made was that they know these websites don't have the resources to respond proper...were as the org does...and i think have responded in the past....matt? were's matt?

i totaly agree withthis

sosgemini said:

We got a "Beware of Lawyer" sign on our fence. Grrrrr.

Yeay Matt!

Prince needs to get laid.

P2daP said:

How original of you!

sosgemini said:

Well, that could be a factor, but Prince's resources likely outstrip those of this site. Unless Matt HAS "got it like that" (sic).

My point is, the questions of fair use on this site are far from certain one way or the other. At least to this orger.

And resources may not necessarily be as important as strategy. See Prince v. Uptown. Prince jumped on Uptown, Uptown responded, noticed Prince's deposition, and it was over because Prince is afraid of "the record" and would have made a horrible deponent. IIRC.
[Edited 1/2/07 7:02am]

They've posted many videos, threads and posts talking about how many of them don't believe in God and have show undeniable disrespect for Prince and his religion, and it suddenly hit me as he would say "like a fist on a wall" that Prince's people would want no affiliation with Godless heathens that blatantly mock Prince and God. He's very serious about that!

wlcm2thdwn said:

I'm sorry but I disagree with you. Many more people here diss Prince than Housequake, Princefams, etc. And we also have people who are agnostic, atheist, whatever so what you are saying doesn't hold water. We do not have the full story of what actually went down.

thedribbler said:

Now, see, I thought it was pretty funny.

Stymie said:

Stymie I think many of us would like to see the communications between both sides before we form our own conclusions. Personally I think we all should not speculate until this happens as it just creates more drama and people become upset then start venting at each other...

HereToRockYourWorld said:

Made me laugh but i shouldnt have had coffee in my mouth at the time

It's good 2 laugh go on thedribbler u can do it

katt said:

Exactly, Katt!!! It's like we are asked to blindly be on the side of the fansites.

katt said:

aah Ha ha, err...

thedribbler said:

**** Yes, it could b if its without LOVE and RESPECT.....

Stymie said:

but theres soo soo soo much precedence...

Stymie said:

I would say that we are being asked by both sides to trust in them. I am a firm believe in the truth always comes to light in the end so just now I am sticking with the wait and see attitude.

thedribbler said:

have a

sosgemini said:

Happy New Year, Nick.


I do not know of what happened all the other times either. I have never seen one of the cease and desist letters for myself. All and all, I personally would ask someone if I could use their likeness, just like I do with friends before I post a pic to the Org. People know how protective Prince is of his image but yet scream "what did I do" or play victim when he asked them to stop. For all we know, people in the past could have got warnings to stop and when they didn't, they were threatened with a lawsuit.

If anyone has any links to previous letters or written orders, I would love to se them for myself. I have zero prblem calling people out when I feel they are wrong.