grandebelle said:

Baloney. That only applies to the images he has control over. And when it comes to album art and promo pics, he hasn't got a leg to stand on.

grandebelle said:

Instead of talking generic BS, stick to the issue at hand.We're talking about THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION.

grandebelle said:

Grow up.

grandebelle said:

Keep dreaming. Meanwhile you're just enabling him.

grandebelle said:

His "kids"? You mean his songs? The ones he pimps out to corporations if they offer him enough money? Like Little Red Corvette? Or like 1999, which was almost sold to Coca-Cola for exclusive use in 1999?

Lilith said:

Wrong. He beliefs his own BS.

Lilith said:

Wrong again. Copyright is a fairly recent invention, and these days it is mostly hijacked by major corporations who want to keep exploiting copyrighted works long after any reasonable term has expired:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ension_Act

Copyrights are holy? Listen to Laid Back's "White Horse", and then listen to Prince's "Erotic City".

BartVanHemelen said:

i dont see the hyprocrisy in your statement. I guess Prince does not want someonelse owning his image, just like he no longer believe in contracts where someone else owns his songs.at least that's how i see it. perhaps you can explain it further so i could understand better.
[Edited 1/7/07 9:18am]

Hello!

I don't know enough to really give a decent judgement. Frankly, noone does.
I can only go by what I heard, and based upon what I heard, I cant really blame him for doing what he has done. I haven't seen the video, but there must be something wrong if it was taken off, and if the pictures and stuff were stripped off of princefans.com. I think you have to look at this both ways. Yes, fansites can be free positive advertisement, but at the same time, it could also be negative. It is almost like posting a cold blooded pictures on youtube about Bush (if it hasn't already been done yet). Yes it is a crappy analogy, but it gets the point across.

Anyway, how many other sites are currently experiencing this dilemma? If it is only one, chill. If a second goes down, then let world war three break loose.

But really, you people should really chill. You don't know what was exactly said, nor what the video was about. Just wait for more info before you plan an elaborate arguement to give prince...


Sapphiregirl

PS

If you are having such a hard time swallowing this prince issue, and it is causing you much heart ache, then quit listening to prince music and going to concerts and crap. Unless you just happened to have been listening to prince music while you were still a fetus, you should have no problem eliminating prince from you indirect immediate life. You lived without him before, you can live without him again.

Now, begin your rant about how i am full of crap, young, and naive I am.
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sapphiregirl said:

M'kay...You're full of crap, young, and naive.

sapphiregirl said:

(response from battered prince fans and haters).

wonder505 said:

yerrh.

wonder505 said:

I think what he's pointing out is that Prince talked about art/music/artists being freed from the corporations and the CONtracts, but he himself seems to be coming down on people with CONtracts and corporate mentality.

I think you are trying to say that since it is photos of him or stuff related to him, he owns it personally.

Stymie said:

I must give props & agree to both of these quotes.

I so agree!

I posted a video on youtube of a Barbie doll with me singing "red headed step child" it was not offensive and many people other than me did find it funny, over 100 "comments" now this video was removed from Youtube at the request of NPG, this was AFTER Princefams was requested to remove its video section.

Then came the remove your gallery email too, Prince does not own the copyright of any photograph taken of him in a public place, the only copyrighted photos he owns are those either taken by him or by his staff, this is why there are many water marked photos stating "getty images" thats cos Getty own the copyright and not Prince.
When Prince claims he does own the copyright on such photographs what he is doing is exactly the same as what He fights for with his music and ownership. The "art" is owned by the photographer, not him.

Neither the NPG forcing Princefams to removes its video forum nor its gallery are linked to my parody video, other wise how do u then link the Prince & Elvis photo that he forced HQ to remove? He is just going through one of his hissy fits again.

sapphiregirl said:

if u didnt need it as a fetus then u dont need it now? like Oxygene then or the ability to speak, read & write and fuck.

BartVanHemelen said:

BartV' I fought this same issue in another club and I still agree. Now as far as the music and pics that he doesn't have rights to then, his request for fans not to post is not something he can do. Yet none of us really knows what he has rights to be it music or the pics not including NPG gear or any releases under PP or any other label he's used since he left WB.

trc1 said:

that is always a catch 22...who owns the copyright? but, since the picture is in existence, someone obviously does

This is so bad i cant believe how stupid people can be,nobody can have control over everything on the net anyway,if he wants his fans to stay true to him he needs to shape up,maybe he is going abit of his head after his divorce but come on why take it out on us your loyal fans .

txladykat said:

uh, yeah. But unless someone sits and research all of the copyrights, we'll never know, and all the legal issues between P and fanclubs will continue. The entertainment industry knows who owns the rights but, that is not something that one of their peeps is gonna provide to the fanclubs voluntarily.

trc1 said:

exactly my point...which is why i said you are in a catch 22

txladykat said:

And the only one who has a huge issue is P. Other's who own copyright material hasn't contacted any fansites as far as I know. So yeah, you can say catch 22. I Love U P.

Looks like princefams has returned with a new layout and gallery.

katt said:

Hmmmm, interesting. wonder if they would provide any details. probably not.

oh well, i'm glad its back for those who enjoy the site.
[Edited 1/9/07 8:20am]

wonder505 said:

I thought they would have when this all started with all the bickering going on sadly they did not come forth with the information so I very much doubt they will now, but hey I could be proved wrong. Good thing about it all is is we may now have some peace 2

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katt said:

Deep

katt said:

Well, all's well that ends well. P has not forced them to shut down or never use any pics of him or anything... They just had to solve the problem(s). The man ain't no monster after all.

VenusBlingBling said:

Never said he was....
My mama used 2 say far 2 many ppl get there knickers it a twist (my mama always said some strange things)

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[Edited 1/9/07 15:58pm]

katt said:

I was referring to other orgers...
Hear, hear! Your mama sounds like a smart woman.

christos7 said:

As far as I know... and it's been a while since I have done a real search on our man here.... but there isn't any "bad" photos out there... and when I mean bad, I mean, him real private/moments exposing himself—like sitting to the pot taking a real bad crap.

Everything that is here is something that he has done in the past, and in the public’s eye. In away, I feel that it is public. I understand, copyrighting, possessions, which owns what, is it legal for my photo to be out there—something that I posed for….and does it completely matter…?.. I can see where maybe giving credit where credit is due. O.k. cool. I can deal with that. But it’s not like someone when into his home and stole love making photographs.

This site, as well as many other sites, promote his music, and life in the public eye, which he picked the path to follow, and still continues to follow to this day. We are note selling his photographs, nor mocking him in an unfashionable manner.

It’s really sad to say, for those of us who have been here from the get go, and even before that. For all of us, who still buy the crappy albums, but yet, we are still here…. Is this what “fams” do to one another?

This thread has got weally old!

thedribbler said:

And we never got the truth as to what actually happened.

Lets all just be happy,all this hating is bad when we really dont know what has been happing,as the saying goes "dont worry be happy".xxxx