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Thread started 12/30/06 10:12am

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princefams.com vs Prince drama

Prince's camp is alienating fans again! Or is this already being discussed here? They were reportedly ordered to take off ALL their photography.

[Post your comments on this thread. Let's show some solidarity! - luv4u]

http://www.princefams.com...hp?id=7935 (Princefams petition)

Quote: "Hi PrinceFams!

Sorry for the lack of pictures on the front page. NPG has denied us the right to use images of Prince.

Due to repeated problems with Prince and NPG in the last few months, Princefams.com is currently not able to offer any services besides the discussion forum.

This website has for almost 6 years been working hard to provide a positive and friendly place for fans of Prince to meet and have fun, while enjoying a picture gallery, discography and in the last year or so, streamed videos of YouTube.

The NPG sent us an email many years ago, denying us the use of certain album covers for the discography.

Later, we were treathened with legal action over the streaming of videos from YouTube. Today we were informed that we had to remove all pictures of Prince.

In effect everything except talking is prohibited!

I will leave the forum intact for the time being, since I know that a lot of people from all over the world come together there to enjoy each others company.

As far as promoting Prince is concered, all services are cancelled for the time being.

We are sorry that the NPG is forcing us to take this action.

If you think the NPG is out of line, and treating their most loyal fans poorly, sign the petition here:" [end Quote]

http://www.princefams.com...hp?id=7935
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Reply #1 posted 12/30/06 10:29am

workingupahiye
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yeah, everyone wants to suck up to a man that wears women's shoes
but the fans keep giving in
it's very simple
everyone buy a ticket to a show, and protest there
if they are really upset at that
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Reply #2 posted 12/30/06 10:55am

metalorange

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Photos are all copyrighted/owned by someone or other. That person has the right to insist such things (though whether they should or not is another issue... certainly I feel people think everything on the internet is free and up-for-grabs when it is not, and therefore should not be surprised when such things catch up with them). I wouldn't be surprised if they have been simply asked to credit photos, as happens here and on other websites.
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Reply #3 posted 12/30/06 1:51pm

ben

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I'd like to see copies of what exactly was sent to the princefams folks... they seem like good people, obviously hoping to promote Prince and his endeavors via their site, and running ANY fansite is a ton of fairly thankless work. It's tricky, though, if there was something in particular (copyright offenses for example) that are within Prince's right to argue about, that should be respected.

Now, generally speaking, I think he's dead wrong from a practical, business, marketing, and even moral standpoint to attack fans and sites they put blood, sweat, tears, and money into maintianing, as he is likely the greatest benefactor of those efforts and expenditures, but we can't ignore legitimate legal requests. Even challenging illegitimate ones isn't always successful, if Prince is willing to pay big bucks to get "better" lawyers (e.x., the Uptown case).

If I understand correctly (and I'm not sure I do), the princefams folks were previously responsible for putting some video material Prince arguably owned copyright to, on YouTube and linking to it from their site--and were asked to remove it, and did comply with the request. I'm not sure the nature of this subsequent request but as I said, I'd like to know more details.

No matter what, it's never boring in Prince-fan-land, especially if you try to "help" the community. Let's see what happens...
ben -- "the prince.org guy"
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Reply #4 posted 12/30/06 2:01pm

Lilith

I agree with Prince and NPG. Copyrights r HOLY so Prince had the complete right 2 allow or deny the use of pictures and other things.

Princefams aint a so friendly and nice site, so I dont mind whats going on.
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Reply #5 posted 12/30/06 2:06pm

SammiJ

shrug fine with me...
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Reply #6 posted 12/30/06 2:12pm

Lilith

SammiJ said:

shrug fine with me...




*** Im glad that they were fine with u.

I've experienced hypocrisy, flirty impotent men that dont know how 2 spend time and bored ppl who get in2 ur bizz. They treated a friend of mine in a SHAMEFUL way...
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Reply #7 posted 12/30/06 2:17pm

pro

GlamSlam hasn’t been threatened. disbelief
[Edited 12/30/06 14:20pm]

[Error corrected on front page - luv4u]
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Reply #8 posted 12/30/06 2:27pm

cateto

ben said:

I'd like to see copies of what exactly was sent to the princefams folks... they seem like good people, obviously hoping to promote Prince and his endeavors via their site, and running ANY fansite is a ton of fairly thankless work. It's tricky, though, if there was something in particular (copyright offenses for example) that are within Prince's right to argue about, that should be respected.

Now, generally speaking, I think he's dead wrong from a practical, business, marketing, and even moral standpoint to attack fans and sites they put blood, sweat, tears, and money into maintianing, as he is likely the greatest benefactor of those efforts and expenditures, but we can't ignore legitimate legal requests. Even challenging illegitimate ones isn't always successful, if Prince is willing to pay big bucks to get "better" lawyers (e.x., the Uptown case).

If I understand correctly (and I'm not sure I do), the princefams folks were previously responsible for putting some video material Prince arguably owned copyright to, on YouTube and linking to it from their site--and were asked to remove it, and did comply with the request. I'm not sure the nature of this subsequent request but as I said, I'd like to know more details.

No matter what, it's never boring in Prince-fan-land, especially if you try to "help" the community. Let's see what happens...



Just wanted to say that I fully cosign your post, Ben.
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Reply #9 posted 12/30/06 2:28pm

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Reply #10 posted 12/30/06 2:48pm

realm

Here is the real deal..

Prince and his lawyer smell $$$$$ from the Google and youtube deal. Youtube is another Napster waiting to happen. Half the shit up on youtube is stolen. Now that the Google and Youtube deal is good NPG is planning to attack..
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Reply #11 posted 12/30/06 2:55pm

SammiJ

Lilith said:

SammiJ said:

shrug fine with me...




*** Im glad that they were fine with u.

I've experienced hypocrisy, flirty impotent men that dont know how 2 spend time and bored ppl who get in2 ur bizz. They treated a friend of mine in a SHAMEFUL way...

i'm really not sure what you're getting at here...
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Reply #12 posted 12/30/06 2:55pm

wonder505

I heard there was a video spoof made over there that was offensive and may have sparked the video section in getting shutdown. I asked over at HQ but nobody responded. Does anyone know if this was true?
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Reply #13 posted 12/30/06 2:57pm

PleasurePrinci
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I tried posting this b4 and it was erased rolleyes
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Reply #14 posted 12/30/06 3:04pm

ronnie

THANK U BEN! lol
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Reply #15 posted 12/30/06 3:07pm

Spookymuffin

Prince is a prick.
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Reply #16 posted 12/30/06 3:16pm

dothejump

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Lilith said:

I agree with Prince and NPG. Copyrights r HOLY so Prince had the complete right 2 allow or deny the use of pictures and other things.


But Prince doesn't have copyright to ALL pics he is on. Most of the time it is the photographer smile
Formerly known as Parade @ HQ and formerly proud owner of www.paradetour.com
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Reply #17 posted 12/30/06 3:28pm

vindication

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What happened 2 the guy behind Hammers page?

I heard D'Angelo is nice 2 his fans. He is not as productive though.
why is this game
the only one that we play?

Dutch unite at www.itaintover.org
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Reply #18 posted 12/30/06 3:30pm

Symbolsm

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Prince... Yes! I'm here too... thought I left P.Org.

It the same rant I'v posted on HQ....aswell PrinceFams Furoms.
Nope! whont post U mug up anymore!

confused
"WhereverUR!"
HouseQuake suporter aswell 4 P.Org.
Symbolsm©®2K10!prince/PRINCE:)
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Reply #19 posted 12/30/06 3:35pm

wonder505

Symbolsm said:

Prince... Yes! I'm here too... thought I left P.Org.

It the same rant I'v posted on HQ....aswell PrinceFams Furoms.
Nope! whont post U mug up anymore!

confused


Symbolsm pleeez write clear...I want to learn. lol
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Reply #20 posted 12/30/06 3:47pm

wendyrachel

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I think in this day an age its getting scary when the internet cannot be used for people/fans who want to discuss/show a person who they feel has influenced them enough to put fingers to a keyboard and express themselves enough - just to get it thrown back into their face.....

Long live the Org....fallinluv
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fallinluv
'Ive never been 1 2 hide my feelings, Baby, u blow my mind
I painted your face upon my ceiling, I stare at it all the time...'fallinluv

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Reply #21 posted 12/30/06 3:50pm

suomynona

good for prince.

continue spending time alienating your fans rather than releasing music.

fuck him.
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Reply #22 posted 12/30/06 3:53pm

PurpleCharm

I'm sure Prince is not the only artist this happens to, but does any one know of other artists that send out cease and desist letters to their fans?
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Reply #23 posted 12/30/06 3:53pm

wendyrachel

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suomynona said:

good for prince.

continue spending time alienating your fans rather than releasing music.

fuck him.


as I said before....
long live the org fallinluv
fallinluv
'Ive never been 1 2 hide my feelings, Baby, u blow my mind
I painted your face upon my ceiling, I stare at it all the time...'fallinluv

http://www.myspace.com/welshmess
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Reply #24 posted 12/30/06 4:05pm

wlcm2thdwn

wonder505 said:

I heard there was a video spoof made over there that was offensive and may have sparked the video section in getting shutdown. I asked over at HQ but nobody responded. Does anyone know if this was true?

Yep, Los Pigg made a not so funny video of tamar's song redheaded step child and posted it on youtube, seems Lospigg was the only one that found it funny. they probably traced the origins back to Pfams and found more stuff. nobody's safe from the spies!
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Reply #25 posted 12/30/06 4:11pm

babynoz

WWJD?

What would James do???
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #26 posted 12/30/06 4:27pm

PurpleCharm

wlcm2thdwn said:

wonder505 said:

I heard there was a video spoof made over there that was offensive and may have sparked the video section in getting shutdown. I asked over at HQ but nobody responded. Does anyone know if this was true?

Yep, Los Pigg made a not so funny video of tamar's song redheaded step child and posted it on youtube, seems Lospigg was the only one that found it funny. they probably traced the origins back to Pfams and found more stuff. nobody's safe from the spies!

What was going on in the video?
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Reply #27 posted 12/30/06 4:32pm

beautifullandb

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SLAVE to his music! confused
All of me I give 2 thee down at your feet
The reassurance in your rhythm speaks 2 me
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Reply #28 posted 12/30/06 4:39pm

vinaysfunk

Sorry Prince's camps approach to his audience and fam(s) is just plain stupid. A fan of his music, always. I find it very hard to be a fan of his approach to business and people who try to appreciate him. He sounds like he has a lot of personal issues to work out, too bad for us his fans are one of his issues, what a JERK!
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Reply #29 posted 12/30/06 4:41pm

malbena

I'd like to know why he's doing this to his long life fans? I'd like to hear more about it.

I really wouldn't want him to take action against prince.org...
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