Handclapsfingasnapz said:

I don't doubt your conviction, that you're genuine and that you don't bullshit in regard to saying what you believe. I was saying that you couldn't possibly make that statement with any authority. I can see there's clearly a few people on this site who consider chart positions and sales important, but I also know a lot of people elsewhere who don't. I wouldn't want to speculate on what is typical or atypical in this sense in regards to all people. Still, it's your right to do so and you might be right.

I didn't say that you appreciate him for chart placement and awards rather than the music. I said it has a bearing on what he produces for us fans and that is relevant to you. How can it not be? Sure, I'm a fan because of the music, not because of the acclaim and popularity, but I know that how well an artist does on the business side of things must have a bearing on the product and therefore the fans. You disagree?

sarkozy2007 said:

you sound pyscho.. and a pretentious idiot.
[Edited 3/29/06 8:00am]

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

I think most of us do. It's just that we haven't had this opportunity in the US for nearly 17 years, so folks are celebrating.

Fauxie said:

yes, i do.

http://www.billboard.com/...Id=761914]



what r u guys talking about?? eye went to billboard and the album ain't even on HIS list chart... or on the 200 list.... :confused:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

You're BOTH wrong. It was Kirstie Alley!

KingSausage said:

no way, it was joan rivers! everybody knows that!!!

EmancipationLover said:

And he'll compare it all to the latest sales figures for Basement Jaxx or The Pixies or whatever other shit space pirates enjoy these days.

To sum: The same old crap we've been hearing from him since the Rave days, almost word for word...It gets old.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

'Cuz it's a full moon and I'm Joan Rivers, bitch!!!

KingSausage said:

i wonder if bart's made his own template for rebuttals on the org...

KingSausage said:

KingSausage said:

Yes, but it can be very entertaining when you can proof he is wrong on something... He he...

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

"Prince.org Prince has got a new album out answer templates 1-20"

my lover is a genius and remember eye told u that!keep watching more 2 cum! luv ya all but eye got 2 go!

NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 29, 2006--Notching the highest debut of his storied career, Prince garnered the Top Spot on The Billboard 200 Album chart with his acclaimed Universal Records debut album, 3121, selling 183,436 units in its first week of release.

The stunning debut is Prince's first #1 album since 1989's Batman soundtrack, and his first top-charting studio album since 1985's Around The World In A Day. Hailed by fans and critics as a return to "vintage" Prince, the disc has drawn unanimous media raves, including praise from Rolling Stone magazine - "Reassert(s) Prince's funk bona fides..." - and People magazine - "Even better than its double platinum-predecessor" - cementing Prince's return to the pop stratosphere which he began with 2004's double-platinum offering, the Grammy nominated Musicology.

Prince has also treated fans to a rare coupling of promotions celebrating the new album, including an intimate surprise midnight show for fans on the eve of the release of 3121 at L.A.'s Tower Records on Sunset Strip. The innovative Prince has also included a limited number of Purple tickets in 3121 CD packages, granting lucky fans access to a private performance at his L.A. home later this spring. Listeners who purchased the new "Black Sweat" single via Apple's iTunes Music Store were also eligible to win entrance to the upcoming private show.

Prince's momentum has been buoyed by the sizzling single "Black Sweat," the top debuting single on the Billboard Hot 100 three weeks ago, boosted by a sultry, minimalist video helmed by groundbreaking Moroccan director Sanaa Hamri (Mariah Carey, Lenny Kravitz, Seal). Prince's previous single and video from the new disc, the ballad "Te Amo Corazon," were also greeted with wide acclaim, simultaneously premiering across all of VH1's platforms, and directed by award winning actress Selma Hayek. Prince previewed another 3121 gem, the guitar-edged "Fury," on NBC's Saturday Night Live on February 4th, the first time the star had appeared on the long running show in 25 years, scoring the highest ratings for SNL in more than two years.

The 12 song disc is also being hailed for its peerless blend of Prince styles, including the catchy funk of "Lolita," the R&B-tinged "Incense And Candles," and a steamy duet with Prince protege Tamar on "Beautiful, Loved & Blessed," among others.

Prince's ascension to the top of the pop world has been both meteoric and enduring, inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2004, his most recent release, Musicology, debuted at #3 on the Top 200 album charts, capping a three-decade reign in which Prince is generally regarded as one of the most acclaimed and influential musical artists of the 20th century. The Minnesota native's career literally exploded in 1984 with the dual phenomenon of Purple Rain (the movie broke box office records, the Grammy nominated album sole more than 11 million copies an spent 24 weeks at #1) making Prince one of the few triple threats in history to simultaneously land the #1 single, album, and movie. A series of genre defying albums - from 1985's Around The World In A Day, to 1987's prophetic A Sign of the Times, to 1991's Diamond And Pearls indelibly sealed his reputation as a groundbreaking songwriter and consummate musical performer.

With more than 100 million records sold, Prince launched his web-centric NPG Music Club in the early '90s, pioneering direct sales and value-added content that would become the artist-driven online entrepreneurial model artists and internet gurus would be flocking to by the end of the decade. More groundbreaking albums followed, with Prince himself stewarding their marketing and promotion, with major imprints such as EMI, Arista and Columbia forming temporary but fruitful relationships with the visionary artist.

Prince also launched one of the most successful tours in music history in 2004 (Pollstar Magazine crowned him top concert draw for the year), as well as winning a NAACP Image Award, and being honored by Rolling Stone magazine in a special issue which named Prince #5 on the Top Pop Artists of the Past 25 Years.

Contacts
Universal Republic Records
Serena Gallagher, 212-841-8201
serena.gallagher@umusic.com

oh that sux! he isnt even on our charts at all here
not even for a single

http://www.ariacharts.com...chart=1A50

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

You're saying you don't think money makes a difference to the music? Dirty Mind sure sounds different to 3121 doesn't it? Commercial success for Prince means more or at least different opportunities surely. That is relevant to you as a fan. I'm not saying it's important to you as far as how you rate the music, but it's relevant you as a Prince fan.

http://www.billboard.com/...1002273762

Prince Nets First No. 1 Album Debut With '3121'


March 29, 2006, 11:25 AM ET

Katie Hasty, N.Y.
Prince achieves his first career No. 1 debut on The Billboard 200 this week with his new NPG Music/Universal album, "3121." The set sold 183,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan, to open at No. 1 on the big list, as well as on Billboard's Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums tally.

Prince last topped the R&B/Hip-Hop chart with 1991's "Diamonds & Pearls." On The Billboard 200, he now has four No. 1s, including 1989's "Batman," 1985's "Around the World in a Day" and 1984's "Purple Rain."

The Prince set leads a charge of debuts this week as new titles from B.G., Ben Harper and Teddy Geiger all bow inside the top 10.

The soundtrack to Disney's "High School Musical" continued with strong sales, although its 7% increase to 152,000 was not enough to stay in front of Prince, so the set falls 1-2 on The Billboard 200. James Blunt's Atlantic release "Back to Bedlam" drops 2-3 with 111,000 (-12%), but crowns the Top Rock Albums chart for a fourth, non-consecutive week.

Here's a "newbie-esque" question: Purple Rain didn't debut at #1, but it did reach #1; whereas ATWIAD & Batman started at #1--that's the difference, right?


PS. For what it's worth, 3121 is #3 on amazon.com.

I hope next week he is still up there (top 5 at least) and this isn't just a one week thing...

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Nope. If you put your art on the market you are by definition in competition with others. Whether it's music or painting or handknit cashmere sweaters, if you make your art available for public consumption you are competing for attention.

The key is attention. If you can do without attention then you are truly independent and beyond competition.

jone70 said:

No, 3121 is Prince's first album to debut at number one. Purple Rain entered at number 11, ATWIAD entered at no.14, and Batman started, I believe, somewhere around no.5 or 6. But before Soundscan in 1991, it was very rare for an album to debut at number one. Fewer than ten albums pulled off that feat before 1991 (2 by Elton John, and albums by Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Jackson, and Whitney Houston). If Soundscan was around back then, Purple Rain and ATWIAD would've had number one debuts, and Parade might have entered at no.1 as well (instead it peaked at no.3).

3121 may still be as high as number five next week, but look for it to definitely be outsold by T.I., Tim McGraw, High School Musical, and James Blunt.

.well done prince, this must have been his most publicised album in years

wow the album I don't like at all debuts at #1

congrats

I'd be more impressed that the album slowly moved up to number one. I predict it will fall off the charts in a hurry.

Why can't everyone be happy for Prince??

Why rain on his parade??

Again, congrats Prince!! Hopefully, this will encourage casual listeners to buy his other albums as well and discover his musical genius!!

Reply to 'ITS FINAL : prince debuts at #1'

I paid the $13.00 dollars. Just like shake an bake. I helped.

[color=blue]ALL I HAVE 2 SAY IZ, I AM GLAD TO SEE PRINCE'S DEBUT WAS @ NUMBER 1, (CONGRATS BY THE WAY) AND EVEN WITH HOW MUCH I CAN'T STOP PLAYING THE DAMN THANG - HEHEHE.
THERE WERE SOME ALBUMS IN THE PAST THAT WE ALL SHOULD HAVE PUSHED TO NUMBER ONE AS WELL.
I TALKED A LOT OF FRIENDS N2 GOING OUT AND BUYING NOT ONLY 3121, BUT MUSICOLOGY. AND TO 'MEKO & ANG' ..... GIRLZ ITZ TIME 2 GET 2GTHER AGAIN AND GO 2 A FEW PRINCE SHOWZ !!!!
"ITZ GONNA B OUTRAGEOUZ - F@@K THIS SH@T" - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LUV U - JOHN N.

pkidwell said:

Do albums still climb up the charts? I know they used to but now it seems like most debut big and then drop the following weeks.

Oh yeah.....the ride up front is better when uve been in the back!...and thats a fact!!!

Great news! Congratulations, Prince