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jthad1129 said: Prince doesn't deserve it nearly as much as the marketing genius' at the record company. By saying there is purple ticket inside (has anyone seen one yet?), not posting it on itunes for sale, posting two videos from the cd and letting us hear 4 tracks from the cd before it hits the shelves, AND canning the hits compilation (for competition), was incredible!!
Thats how you get a #1 cd It also helps that Prince is s musical genius and had the best tour of 2004 to get fans interested in him again. After the years of indie releases and one shot deals that didn't quite work, it's great to see Universal fully behind Prince's work. The purple ticket promotion helps, and it's a legit promotion. Who wouldn't want to win a trip to Prince's mansion to watch a concert? You have to consider this... in a music world that's vapid, where music video channels don't play videos, and radio is controlled by Clear Channel (who ignore Prince's music), Prince scoring a #1 album is quite an accomplishment for Prince and Universal. I'd say the score is about even. Clear Channel not playing his music? Cool... so we'll package the new album in with a concert ticket or offer a purple ticket promotion. If you play the game by Clear Channel's rules, you'll always lose. Therefore you need new ways to get your music heard and sold. Why anyone would call this #1 record a fraud, when the real fraud is MTV/VH1/BET and Clear Channel, is beyond me. "You don't exist again. It's all taken away from you. Even for the richest, happiest and most beautiful people, they move into later life and get old where things start to break apart. They don't exist anymore and they will never exist again." Woody Allen | |
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If Prince really wanted to he could make the no1 slot every album i am convinced of it.
Congrats Prince, looking forward 2 the tour | |
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I thank GOD i have lived long enough to see the purple prince, number #1, twice in my life!!!Good going,P!!! I,along with the rest of the funk family, are proud of you, and of being your loyal legionaires!!!Cant wait for the tour! I will be there again, hopefully front row,cheering you on as you continue to prove all these no talent suckas, who the KING of longevity really is!! Those who are with me,scream and be heard!! We are the new power generation,we wanna change the world!!! O(+>JUNEBUG<+)O | |
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Ah, this is sweet!! Bring on the tour, baby. | |
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Wow! Very cool, and very much deserved. I absolutely love this album! | |
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asg said: LW TW artist / album label power index % change
-- 1 PRINCE UNIVERSAL 184,450 -- 3121 1 2 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL WALT DISNEY RECORDS 153,202 +14% SOUNDTRACK 2 3 JAMES BLUNT CUSTARD/ATLANTIC/ATL G 112,186 -10% BACK TO BEDLAM 20 4 BARRY MANILOW ARISTA/RMG 73,959 +127% THE GREATEST SONGS OF THE... 4 5 NE-YO DEF JAM/IDJMG 69,200 -10% IN MY OWN WORDS -- 6 B.G. KOCH 62,046 -- THE HEART OF THA STREETZ VOL.2 -- 7 BEN HARPER VIRGIN 56,018 -- BOTH SIDES OF THE GUN 8 8 JOHNNY CASH ISLAND/IDJMG 54,170 -3% I WALK THE LINE: THE LEGEND... -- 9 TEDDY GEIGER COLUMBIA/CRG 53,453 -- UNDERAGE THINKING 18 10 ALAN JACKSON ACR/ARISTA NASHVILLE 51,193 +36% PRECIOUS MEMORIES 6 11 CARRIE UNDERWOOD ARISTA/RMG 49,055 -24% SOME HEARTS 13 12 MARY J. BLIGE GEFFEN 45,386 +3% THE BREAKTHROUGH 10 13 JACK JOHNSON & FRIENDS...CURIOUS BRUSHFIRE/UNIVERSAL 43,649 -14% SOUNDTRACK 7 14 MATISYAHU OR/EPIC 42,971 -29% YOUTH 11 15 WALK THE LINE WIND-UP 42,837 -13% SOUNDTRACK 5 16 JUVENILE ATLANTIC/ATL G 41,295 -38% REALITY CHECK -- 17 KENNY ROGERS CAPITOL NASHVILLE 40,388 -- WATER & BRIDGES 16 18 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER/IDJMG 40,322 +5% ALL THE RIGHT REASONS 14 19 EMINEM SHADY/AFTERMATH/INT 40,259 +1% CURTAIN CALL 12 20 ANDREA BOCELLI DECCA 39,050 -14% AMORE 3 21 E-40 WARNER BROS. 37,416 -61% MY GHETTO REPORT CARD 9 22 FALL OUT BOY ISLAND/IDJMG 35,916 -34% FROM UNDER THE CORK TREE 17 23 THE BLACK EYED PEAS A&M/INTERSCOPE 33,585 -11% MONKEY BUSINESS 21 24 JOSH TURNER MCA NASHVILLE 32,813 +1% YOUR MAN 25 25 SEAN PAUL VP/ATLANTIC/ATL G 32,750 +8% TRINITY 22 26 PUSSYCAT DOLLS A&M/INTERSCOPE 31,636 -2% PCD 19 27 KELLY CLARKSON RCA/RMG 31,480 -11% BREAKAWAY 23 28 HAWTHORNE HEIGHTS VICTORY 30,665 -4% IF ONLY YOU WERE LONELY 30 29 KEYSHIA COLE A&M/INTERSCOPE 30,661 +8% WAY IT IS 31 30 PANIC! AT THE DISCO FUELED BY RAMEN 30,659 +8% A FEVER YOU CAN'T SWEAT OUT -- 31 MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE REPRISE 29,876 -- LIFE ON THE MURDER SCENE 35 32 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS DREAMWORKS 27,453 +4% MOVE ALONG 34 33 KEITH URBAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE 26,862 0% BE HERE 29 34 RASCAL FLATTS LYRIC STREET 26,666 -8% FEELS LIKE TODAY -- 35 FROM FIRST TO LAST EPITAPH 26,438 -- HEROINE -- 36 NOW LATIN0 SONY BMG LATINO 25,944 -- VARIOUS 40 37 CHAMILLIONAIRE UNIVERSAL 25,515 +10% THE SOUND OF REVENGE 28 38 MICHAEL BUBLE REPRISE 25,503 -13% IT'S TIME -- 39 CHICAGO RHINO/WEA 24,911 -- XXX 41 40 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD EPIC 23,788 +4% UNWRITTEN 36 41 CHRIS BROWN JIVE/ZLG 23,763 -9% CHRIS BROWN 33 42 JOHNNY CASH LEGACY 23,279 -13% 16 BIGGEST HITS 26 43 DEM FRANCHIZE BOYZ SO SO DEF/VIRGIN 22,818 -24% ON TOP OF OUR GAME 15 44 DAVID GILMOUR COLUMBIA/CRG 22,077 -43% ON AN ISLAND 32 45 JAMIE FOXX J RECORDS/RMG 21,800 -20% UNPREDICTABLE 38 46 T-PAIN JIVE/ZLG 21,087 -15% RAPPA TERNT SANGA -- 47 ARCTIC MONKEYS DOMINO 20,704 -- WHATEVER PEOPLE SAY I AM,.... -- 48 HEATHER HEADLEY RCA/RMG 18,995 -- IN MY MIND 43 49 KIDZ BOP KIDS 9 RAZOR & TIE 18,861 -13% VARIOUS -- 50 IL DIVO COLUMBIA/CRG 18,252 -- ANCORA I thank GOD I have lived long enough to see the purple prince,#1,twice in my lifetime!! Good going P!I,along with the funk family, are proud of you,and of being your loyal legionaires!!! keep showing these no talent suckas who is the king of longevity!!! Cant wait for the tour! I will be there ,again,hopefully front row,cheering on the greatest artist of our time!!! Those of you who are with me,scream, and be heard! We are the New Power Generation,we wanna change the world!!!!!O(+ | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: DarkKnight1 said: Its no different then sports, politics, or monopoly. Its all a contest.
to me, art should never be a contest.  You are so my little sister.  | |
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Great news - I´m happy for Prince, and hope that it means something to him. for me, I guess it´s great to know that some people will get to know, that Prince isn´t just about the 80´s! Fryd - Always Park The Car Sideways! | |
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torrese said: I thank GOD i have lived long enough to see the purple prince, number #1, twice in my life!!!Good going,P!!! I,along with the rest of the funk family, are proud of you, and of being your loyal legionaires!!!Cant wait for the tour! I will be there again, hopefully front row,cheering you on as you continue to prove all these no talent suckas, who the KING of longevity really is!! Those who are with me,scream and be heard!! We are the new power generation,we wanna change the world!!! O(+>JUNEBUG<+)O
Wow....just, wow.... 
Put down the gun...step away from the ledge...yes, yes, we all hear the voices. It's good that you're Angel of Death...just put down the gun...  "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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THIS IS HUGE!!!!
so fucking cool!!! | |
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loudawg said: jthad1129 said: Prince doesn't deserve it nearly as much as the marketing genius' at the record company. By saying there is purple ticket inside (has anyone seen one yet?), not posting it on itunes for sale, posting two videos from the cd and letting us hear 4 tracks from the cd before it hits the shelves, AND canning the hits compilation (for competition), was incredible!!
Thats how you get a #1 cd It also helps that Prince is s musical genius and had the best tour of 2004 to get fans interested in him again. After the years of indie releases and one shot deals that didn't quite work, it's great to see Universal fully behind Prince's work. The purple ticket promotion helps, and it's a legit promotion. Who wouldn't want to win a trip to Prince's mansion to watch a concert? You have to consider this... in a music world that's vapid, where music video channels don't play videos, and radio is controlled by Clear Channel (who ignore Prince's music), Prince scoring a #1 album is quite an accomplishment for Prince and Universal. I'd say the score is about even. Clear Channel not playing his music? Cool... so we'll package the new album in with a concert ticket or offer a purple ticket promotion. If you play the game by Clear Channel's rules, you'll always lose. Therefore you need new ways to get your music heard and sold. Why anyone would call this #1 record a fraud, when the real fraud is MTV/VH1/BET and Clear Channel, is beyond me. Exactly! It's a shame that you would have to break this down to a grown person. This love/hate relationship that some people have with Prince is ridiculous. | |
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PurpleCharm said: loudawg said: It also helps that Prince is s musical genius and had the best tour of 2004 to get fans interested in him again. After the years of indie releases and one shot deals that didn't quite work, it's great to see Universal fully behind Prince's work. The purple ticket promotion helps, and it's a legit promotion. Who wouldn't want to win a trip to Prince's mansion to watch a concert? You have to consider this... in a music world that's vapid, where music video channels don't play videos, and radio is controlled by Clear Channel (who ignore Prince's music), Prince scoring a #1 album is quite an accomplishment for Prince and Universal. I'd say the score is about even. Clear Channel not playing his music? Cool... so we'll package the new album in with a concert ticket or offer a purple ticket promotion. If you play the game by Clear Channel's rules, you'll always lose. Therefore you need new ways to get your music heard and sold. Why anyone would call this #1 record a fraud, when the real fraud is MTV/VH1/BET and Clear Channel, is beyond me. Exactly! It's a shame that you would have to break this down to a grown person. This love/hate relationship that some people have with Prince is ridiculous. Perhaps the lyrics to "I Hate U" went to their heads? "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: PurpleCharm said: Exactly! It's a shame that you would have to break this down to a grown person. This love/hate relationship that some people have with Prince is ridiculous. Perhaps the lyrics to "I Hate U" went to their heads? I hate U baby because I love u but I can't love because I hate U [Edited 3/29/06 6:39am] | |
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To me, the benefits of this Prince hitting #1 thing are very important for fans in two ways:
1) It will give him clout for the future. Remasters? More experimental albums? Taking more risks? Bring it... 2) It will push him to stop sounding so fucking desperate. Looking for hits on Rave...talking about the bank all the time...whining about his masters constantly...maybe now he'll stop. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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 That's great....considering he did Saturday Night Live weeks before the release of the cd. He did not really do any other TV. shows to push the album yet, besides playing & performing with Tamar. It's really all about how you market the product anyway. The contest thing was a big push in that. Overall i'm glad to see a good album at #1. The charts have been horrible & still are. | |
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This is indeed a great accomplishment. Yes, Universal has promoted the album to the max, but, like most all great products, without marketing, they usually do not make it to the masses on their own.
Let's hope this continues with another single, something the "kids" can dance to like "Love" which could have a great dance remix. Then, after that, something like "Incense and Candles" as they head into the summer vacation and have their "summer loves." They should immediately release thise to itunes to keep the momemtum going and hold the number one spot for more than one week, then announce the tour the following week, followed by the next single with a great video. Throw this in with a few TV appearances while the album is #1 and this momemtum should carry the sales into the beginning of summer when the tour starts and the great show keeps the sales up through the summer. Is it going to sell 10 or even 5 million copies . . . no. But if he can sell more than 2 million without packaging it like he did with Musicology, this will be a great commercial success. |
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mellow1 said: That's great....considering he did Saturday Night Live weeks before the release of the cd. He did not really do any other TV. shows to push the album yet, besides playing & performing with Tamar. It's really all about how you market the product anyway. The contest thing was a big push in that. Overall i'm glad to see a good album at #1. The charts have been horrible & still are.So it doesn't seem like the leak of the album 2 weeks early effected sales any - I wonder if it helped push the album? Record companies really moan about how the internet is costing them sales - this result proves that if the product is good, it will sell, and maybe the reason why sales have dropped off so badly is the music they're putting out just doesn't cut it. | |
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quite easy to be #1 these days, not many other big names or releases around... but always cool! | |
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loudawg said: rainbowchild said: Good first half, the movie went downhill from there and what a cop-out for an ending. Wrong! Decent first half (setup). Brilliant second half, tension filled, and an unpredictable, incredible ending. Had the audience gasping for more. You think the ring will get him caught by the police, because it didn't go in the water, But this ain't no Hollywood film. It's the most intense, truest philosphical statement ever... Woody pulls the rug out from under you, proving that luck is blind. In a game like tennis, with rules, the ball coming back at you is a lost point. However, since life has no rules, and no God/justice, the ring coming back at you can be good, or bad... It's all luck. Brilliant film. Noticed you gave Big Momma's House the same score. I just gotta laugh. [Edited 3/29/06 4:31am] But you have to ask yourself, does he really need to do what he did?? That was outrageous!! You don't go killing people these days just because some girl is carrying your baby!! Let's agree to disagree. And if you want to discuss movies further, come see us at rottentomatoes.com. We can discuss movies!! Back to topic, still on a high that Prince is at #1!! "Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."
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You know what might possibly help in sales. Prince should have one of the singles from 3121, Black Sweat mainly, on the next NOW CD collection. I saw an ad for the new NOW 21 CD and it just dawned on me that it could make someone interested in 3121 if they dig Black Sweat. I think it can work. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Wait, I'm confused. Are the concert giveaways supposed to be counted in starting from neext week, or... ? | |
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Wait...Prince has a new album out? Is he still deaf? Did he ever treat his club foot? "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: To me, the benefits of this Prince hitting #1 thing are very important for fans in two ways:
1) It will give him clout for the future. Remasters? More experimental albums? Taking more risks? Bring it... 2) It will push him to stop sounding so fucking desperate. Looking for hits on Rave...talking about the bank all the time...whining about his masters constantly...maybe now he'll stop. - I couldnt agree more! I would add: 3) maybe some curious people who buy the album will search for more Prince stuff and become fans. In my case, I became a fan after listening to The Most Beautiful Girl and asking a friend to record an album for me. I was hooked and TODAY I know Prince has written much stronger material than TMBGITW. The non-fans that buy it will know the Camille voice, the minimalist funk of BS, the guitar work of Fury and etc. Maybe they will dive into great records like Gold, SOTT and Parade like I did...who knows? |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: DarkKnight1 said: If it wasnt a contest, there wouldnt be charts. His chart position doesnt change my listening habits either. But it is still a little gratifying to see my favorite musician back on top and in the spotlight. Kinda like when the Cowboys won superbowls back in the 90's. Our favorite teams/players/musicians are believe it or not a reflection of who we are or what we like. sure, but unlike most people i really don't need instant gratification/vindication by the way of seeing my favorite artists get awards. i dig who i dig because of what they do and how they do it, not because of whatever kudos and tangible awards they receive or are/should/could/would be capable of receiving. Ol' boy couldn't have financed half the stuff you and I get from him if he never charted. You sell a lot of records, it puts pennies in your coffers, there are people who keep track of these things, and here's what they found - Prince sold more albums in the US than anyone else this last week. 'Unlike most people'? I wouldn't be so presumptious as to deny the truth in that any more than I'd wish to posit it.
You're just too cool for school aren't ya, Dansa, and yet still a dedicated follower of fashion, be it the norm or otherwise. Success for Prince, be it in the form of awards or high album sales is still relevant to you if you are still a fan as it has a tangible bearing on what he produces. Whether you think it has a positive effect is a whole other matter though. | |
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Fauxie said: 'Unlike most people'? I wouldn't be so presumptious as to deny the truth in that any more than I'd wish to posit it.
why are you not believing me? i never bullshit in what i say, online and off. Success for Prince, be it in the form of awards or high album sales is still relevant to you if you are still a fan as it has a tangible bearing on what he produces.
it isn't. like i'd mentioned, i appreciate 'im a helluva lot more for how talented/creative he is and not for chart placements & awards. how fucking hard is that for you to comprehend? | |
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I'm happy about this primarily because it gives Prince more clout within the industry. As a big fan of the proteges, it will be a lot easier to launch outside projects if Prince himself is not viewed as the washed-up has-been so many people from Howard Stern to Wendy Williams have made him out to be. Perhaps this will help Tamar and get the Liza Lena project out quicker. |
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padawan said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: to me, art should never be a contest. Idealistic. But if you want to make a living at it, you gotta compete. not for me, i don't. | |
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EDD said: MartyMcFly said: But this is TERRIBLE news for a mr. Bart van Hemelen!
 is he still around?
shit, I shouldn't ask this, I should google it up. don't worry, he'll be around soon to provide you with a googled link as proof that he's still posting here.  | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: EDD said: is he still around?
shit, I shouldn't ask this, I should google it up. don't worry, he'll be around soon to provide you with a googled link as proof that he's still posting here. He will be around soon enough proving that the #1 in the US is completely made up and that Prince in fact is irrelevant and 3121 a commercial disaster.   | |
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