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Reply #150 posted 01/13/05 9:34am

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Aerogram said:


Honestly, what is "having balls musically"? We live in wall-to-wall shock culture, and every time you hear one of those "original" acts, it sounds like a poor imitation of what it sounded like when there was actually some boundaries still to be broken.


I'm talking about balls as in some agressive, hard hitting shit, not this sissy crap he's doing. The music doesn't have to be controversial, just harder hitting in some kinda way.


Sissy crap??? Um, you realize that we are talking about Prince right? Many would say most of what he has done is "sissy crap". Is a song like "Kiss" hard hitting and aggressive? The album "Dirty Mind" is awfully chirpy and squeaky to be defined as "hard hitting". I think what you want is Prince to have the attitude that he did when he was in his 20's-and it just ain't happenin'. That's life. Did you seem him in concert this year? He tore the shit outta his guitar and it seemed very aggressive and hard hitting to me. Maybe you should listen Slipnot or Eminem - that seems to be more your taste. They both seem like incredible phonies to me though. I'll take my authentic sissy Prince anyday.
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Reply #151 posted 01/13/05 11:34am

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PurpleKnight said:

EvilWhiteMale said:



I'm talking about balls as in some agressive, hard hitting shit, not this sissy crap he's doing. The music doesn't have to be controversial, just harder hitting in some kinda way.


Like The Gold Experience?

That's the last Prince album that really hit me in that way you just described.

Emancipation had that ambition to it too, but it was way more flawed.

Nothing he's done since '96 has sounded quite so urgent though.



Between Come and Emancipation, he could have put together some hot shit. Unfortunately, he threw in a lot of garbage filler tracks.
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Reply #152 posted 01/13/05 11:38am

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He is 46 years old do really want to see him running around his briefs.

No, and I never suggested that.

Everybody has to grow up it happens get over it.

"Growing up" has nothing to do with what I'm saying.

If you really think bucking system takes no balls than you really are out of the loop or in a state of total denial.

What did he have to lose? His reputation? What sort of risks did he face?

As far as not having balls musically he may have done everything that he could possibly do.

So he's done then is what you're saying.

All artist hit that wall. He is still a great performer and every CD has a few gems.

Not lately they don't.

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Reply #153 posted 01/13/05 11:41am

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Sissy crap??? Um, you realize that we are talking about Prince right? Many would say most of what he has done is "sissy crap". Is a song like "Kiss" hard hitting and aggressive? The album "Dirty Mind" is awfully chirpy and squeaky to be defined as "hard hitting". I think what you want is Prince to have the attitude that he did when he was in his 20's-and it just ain't happenin'. That's life. Did you seem him in concert this year? He tore the shit outta his guitar and it seemed very aggressive and hard hitting to me. Maybe you should listen Slipnot or Eminem - that seems to be more your taste. They both seem like incredible phonies to me though. I'll take my authentic sissy Prince anyday.


Good. Enjoy him all you want. I'll stick to artists who still have creativity and a sense of what quality music sounds like.
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Reply #154 posted 01/13/05 11:51am

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laurarichardson said:


He is 46 years old do really want to see him running around his briefs.

No, and I never suggested that.

Everybody has to grow up it happens get over it.

"Growing up" has nothing to do with what I'm saying.

If you really think bucking system takes no balls than you really are out of the loop or in a state of total denial.

What did he have to lose? His reputation? What sort of risks did he face?

As far as not having balls musically he may have done everything that he could possibly do.

So he's done then is what you're saying.

All artist hit that wall. He is still a great performer and every CD has a few gems.

Not lately they don't.

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I not sure if you know what you mean by cutting edge? If you mean cutting edge music. I just think P has explored all the genres he can. 26 years is a long time in the business. If you are looking for some sort of hard rock music that is not going to happen because he has never been that type of artist.

Artist don't have to make a grand statement everytime they put out a CD. Nobody really appreciates it when it is done anyway. Sign Of The Time only sold a 1 million copies when it came out in 1987. It took years for people to consider it a classic. Don't you think P good tired of busting is ass only to not see the CD's marketed correctly or to see the public go crazy for Rap music.

I just think P wants Jam right now on stage. Which is great because showmenship has become a lost art. All of this does not mean he is finished as an artist. That is really just your opinion.

I am not even going to go into the "Balls " situation with you. P was almost ruined by his fight with WB. What can an artist do when he can't get his music on the radio due to blackballing and the age factor. He goes around radio and gives the music to his fans directly. Takes balls to that in my opinion.
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Reply #155 posted 01/13/05 11:54am

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skywalker said:

EvilWhiteMale said:



I'm talking about balls as in some agressive, hard hitting shit, not this sissy crap he's doing. The music doesn't have to be controversial, just harder hitting in some kinda way.


Sissy crap??? Um, you realize that we are talking about Prince right? Many would say most of what he has done is "sissy crap". Is a song like "Kiss" hard hitting and aggressive? The album "Dirty Mind" is awfully chirpy and squeaky to be defined as "hard hitting". I think what you want is Prince to have the attitude that he did when he was in his 20's-and it just ain't happenin'. That's life. Did you seem him in concert this year? He tore the shit outta his guitar and it seemed very aggressive and hard hitting to me. Maybe you should listen Slipnot or Eminem - that seems to be more your taste. They both seem like incredible phonies to me though. I'll take my authentic sissy Prince anyday.
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EVM would like to see P running pissed off 24-7. What he fails to realize is that crap gets old real fast and if Eminem and Slipknot don't figure that out and grow and change they will not be around in 26 years.

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Reply #156 posted 01/13/05 12:12pm

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False.
Remember people said this when Sign of the Times came out, they said it before Batman sold millions of units, they said it before Diamonds and Pearls came out, they said it before The Most Beautiful Girl In The World came out, and they said it before Musicology came out..OK, he gave away cds at concerts, but even without the giveaway cds it would have gone high in the charts with the tour alone, and that is without any real hit single and minimal promotion .
They also said it before the Gold Experience came out, and that could´ve been a hit if it wasn´t for the war with Warner Bros. Remember I Hate U made it to position 11 in the pop charts without any real promotion behind it and a very cheaply shot video.
Take all his releases from the early nineties ( after the name change) and compile different albums or release other singles from those albums and you have some hits.
Or better yet, re-release some of those excellent tracks with proper promotion and he might be up in the charts again ( lots of wasted opportunities, like Shhh, I Hate U, Acknowledge Me, Right Back Here In My Arms, The Undertaker album, a decent live album or DVD etc. etc. etc. )

Keep in mind that , on top of all the WB fuss, he also made some strange decisions and went through a lot of pain that would´ve made other people give up everything completely...instead, he´s still releasing music, doing fantastic shows, makes music like Osaka, Tokyo, The War, Family Name, Everywhere, Last December, to name just a few..

He could be in a totally different position considering all the drama of the past years. So I , personally, am quite happy with the current situation and think that he´s still got it in him.
Another good thing is probably the influence of his wife, she seems to be very familiar with his body of work, and that´s a good thing.
Things are getting better I guess, we´ll just have to wait and see.
Also keep in mind that Prince´s musical peers and competitors/ rivals are either no longer there to challenge him or have been replaced by talentless acts like Usher etc.
There´s simply noone to chalenge him creatively, except for DÁngelo and so on, and even that is debatable since D´Angelo makes cool music but borrows a lot from others, especially from Prince.
The lack of challenge is a huge and mostly underrated factor..in the 80´s you had all kinds of competitors, from pop to rock to RnB, but todays music is different.


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Reply #157 posted 01/13/05 12:27pm

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laurarichardson said:


EVM would like to see P running pissed off 24-7. What he fails to realize is that crap gets old real fast and if Eminem and Slipknot don't figure that out and grow and change they will not be around in 26 years.


They don't have to be. In fact, they'll probably quit before they start to suck as much as Prince does now.
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Reply #158 posted 01/13/05 1:02pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

my goodness, the ol' "he can't make a 'good' album anymore" spiel...i needn't give an answer cuz ya'll know full-well what i think about this kinda stuff.



ya'll will all still be on ol' boy's nutsac in 2005 and beyond, no matter if he makes a great album or not. save the w(h)ine for The Vineyard of the Supposedly Tortured Purple Brethren. seriously, why keep on with the same ol' same ol'?



LOL! Too true.
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Reply #159 posted 01/13/05 1:09pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

laurarichardson said:


EVM would like to see P running pissed off 24-7. What he fails to realize is that crap gets old real fast and if Eminem and Slipknot don't figure that out and grow and change they will not be around in 26 years.


They don't have to be. In fact, they'll probably quit before they start to suck as much as Prince does now.

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No, people will just stop buying their records and they will get dropped by their record companies.

P just sold 1.5 million concerts tickets. He must not suck to whole lot of people.
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Reply #160 posted 01/13/05 1:28pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

laurarichardson said:


EVM would like to see P running pissed off 24-7. What he fails to realize is that crap gets old real fast and if Eminem and Slipknot don't figure that out and grow and change they will not be around in 26 years.


They don't have to be. In fact, they'll probably quit before they start to suck as much as Prince does now.



If you think he sucks now (and I know you get asked this quite a lot) why do you continue to post here and listen to each new album? The fact that you go through the trouble to make an appearance here every now and then is very telling. Oh wait I know you "just wanted to see how many people were drinking the purple kool-aid." No, no wait, you "just stopped by to see how many people were still riding his jock."

The fact of the matter is everybody has different tastes in music. You don't like NEWS, TRC, etc., fine. But why constantly bash people who do enjoy it?

You mentioned you wanted some "cutting edge, hard hitting" music like he was starting to do between 93 - 95. Please site some individual songs that you found to meet that criteria. I remember some real clunkers and bunch of cover songs myself. And please don't bother to mention one of the most overrated boots ever, The Undertaker.
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Reply #161 posted 01/13/05 1:53pm

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skywalker said:



Sissy crap??? Um, you realize that we are talking about Prince right? Many would say most of what he has done is "sissy crap". Is a song like "Kiss" hard hitting and aggressive? The album "Dirty Mind" is awfully chirpy and squeaky to be defined as "hard hitting". I think what you want is Prince to have the attitude that he did when he was in his 20's-and it just ain't happenin'. That's life. Did you seem him in concert this year? He tore the shit outta his guitar and it seemed very aggressive and hard hitting to me. Maybe you should listen Slipnot or Eminem - that seems to be more your taste. They both seem like incredible phonies to me though. I'll take my authentic sissy Prince anyday.


Good. Enjoy him all you want. I'll stick to artists who still have creativity and a sense of what quality music sounds like.



Yeah Prince sucks. He just had his 2nd biggest year ever-but he sucks. Instead of trollin' around this website (a website you are constantly visiting about an artist you claim to dislike) why don't you enlighten us as to what is "quality music" these days? What do you like? It seems as if you didn't like Prince you wouldn't hang around here. Yet you do. So tell us- is there anything you actually enjoy? What bands do you listen to and think "have balls" and "don't suck"?
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Reply #162 posted 01/13/05 2:33pm

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PurpleKnight said:



Like The Gold Experience?

That's the last Prince album that really hit me in that way you just described.

Emancipation had that ambition to it too, but it was way more flawed.

Nothing he's done since '96 has sounded quite so urgent though.



Between Come and Emancipation, he could have put together some hot shit. Unfortunately, he threw in a lot of garbage filler tracks.



nod True. You hit it right on the head with your comments.
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Reply #163 posted 01/13/05 4:20pm

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Hotlegs said:

EvilWhiteMale said:



Between Come and Emancipation, he could have put together some hot shit. Unfortunately, he threw in a lot of garbage filler tracks.



nod True. You hit it right on the head with your comments.



Um, between "Come" and "Emancipation" was "The Gold Experience". ....and you call youselves fans lol
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Reply #164 posted 01/13/05 4:32pm

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KoolEaze said:

False.
Remember people said this when Sign of the Times came out, they said it before Batman sold millions of units, they said it before Diamonds and Pearls came out, they said it before The Most Beautiful Girl In The World came out, and they said it before Musicology came out..OK, he gave away cds at concerts, but even without the giveaway cds it would have gone high in the charts with the tour alone, and that is without any real hit single and minimal promotion .
They also said it before the Gold Experience came out, and that could´ve been a hit if it wasn´t for the war with Warner Bros. Remember I Hate U made it to position 11 in the pop charts without any real promotion behind it and a very cheaply shot video.


all these words and not one of them has to do with the question asked, whether he has a great album in him, which has nothing to do with album sales. in fact, this wouldn't even be a compelling argument of whether he has another major hit in him, since what he does tomorrow has very little to do with what he did yesterday. although some of us are still stuck in the past.
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Reply #165 posted 01/13/05 5:54pm

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P just sold 1.5 million concerts tickets. He must not suck to whole lot of people.


Because people wanted to see him perform the classics. Duran Duran can do the same thing. The question is, what's he done lately that's worth a damn?
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Reply #166 posted 01/13/05 6:03pm

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If you think he sucks now (and I know you get asked this quite a lot) why do you continue to post here and listen to each new album?

Because I enjoy expressing my opinions, and I listen to new albums out of curiosity. However, I don't buy his music anymore.

The fact that you go through the trouble to make an appearance here every now and then is very telling.

Believe me, it's no trouble at all.

Oh wait I know you "just wanted to see how many people were drinking the purple kool-aid." No, no wait, you "just stopped by to see how many people were still riding his jock."

Uh, no.

The fact of the matter is everybody has different tastes in music. You don't like NEWS, TRC, etc., fine. But why constantly bash people who do enjoy it?

Who have I bashed?

You mentioned you wanted some "cutting edge, hard hitting" music like he was starting to do between 93 - 95. Please site some individual songs that you found to meet that criteria.

Just to name a few, Loose!, Endorphinmachine, Interactive, Joint 2 Joint, Pheromone, Emale, Dolphin, I Like It There, 319, etc.

I remember some real clunkers and bunch of cover songs myself. And please don't bother to mention one of the most overrated boots ever, The Undertaker.

The Undertaker is better than anything he's done in the past 8 years.

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Reply #167 posted 01/13/05 6:06pm

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skywalker said:

Yeah Prince sucks. He just had his 2nd biggest year ever-but he sucks. Instead of trollin' around this website (a website you are constantly visiting about an artist you claim to dislike) why don't you enlighten us as to what is "quality music" these days? What do you like? It seems as if you didn't like Prince you wouldn't hang around here. Yet you do. So tell us- is there anything you actually enjoy? What bands do you listen to and think "have balls" and "don't suck"?


Is this thread about Prince, or me?

I was under the impression that this thread was about Prince. If you wanna make a thread about me, then go right ahead.
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Reply #168 posted 01/13/05 6:07pm

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Doesn't it make you smile when you realize no one was there to see the stupid thing you just did?
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Reply #169 posted 01/13/05 7:51pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

You mentioned you wanted some "cutting edge, hard hitting" music like he was starting to do between 93 - 95. Please site some individual songs that you found to meet that criteria.

Just to name a few, Loose!, Endorphinmachine, Interactive, Joint 2 Joint, Pheromone, Emale, Dolphin, I Like It There, 319, etc.


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Reply #170 posted 01/13/05 9:08pm

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PurpleKnight said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

You mentioned you wanted some "cutting edge, hard hitting" music like he was starting to do between 93 - 95. Please site some individual songs that you found to meet that criteria.

Just to name a few, Loose!, Endorphinmachine, Interactive, Joint 2 Joint, Pheromone, Emale, Dolphin, I Like It There, 319, etc.


You love Pheromone too?! hug


Pheromone is a hot track. See, songs like that are the ones that needed exposure and promotion. WB could have done that, but Prince had to be a retard. He had a few really good shots cuz some of the music was still on point.
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Reply #171 posted 01/13/05 10:01pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said

The fact of the matter is everybody has different tastes in music. You don't like NEWS, TRC, etc., fine. But why constantly bash people who do enjoy it?


It's not really bashing, it's just expressing our disappointment and frustration. As far as bashing goes, beginning with "Around The World In A Day", Prince gained a whole new type of fans that were into and totally enjoyed his new weird far out style better than the harder edge earlier Prince. I, myself, remember saying back then "Hell, as long as these new fans like this mess, he will never get broke enough to be forced to go back to being the hard, kick-ass Prince, I know and love." Us fans that like his harder edged stuff are the reason he continues to make a jam every now and then. We are the reason he doesn't completely put out totally 100% weak "creative" bull, so feel free to bash us also.

Of course, we all know that our voice is not going to change Prince but this site and this topic was intended for people to express our opinions and that's what we are doing.
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Reply #172 posted 01/13/05 10:05pm

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skywalker said

Yeah Prince sucks. He just had his 2nd biggest year ever-but he sucks. Instead of trollin' around this website (a website you are constantly visiting about an artist you claim to dislike) why don't you enlighten us as to what is "quality music" these days? What do you like? It seems as if you didn't like Prince you wouldn't hang around here.


Probably the same reason I do. In hopes that the next album will be better. Over the years, Prince has put out an entire album full of junk and then put out a little better album the next year (still not being up to Prince's full potential, but still better).
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Reply #173 posted 01/13/05 11:20pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said

The fact of the matter is everybody has different tastes in music. You don't like NEWS, TRC, etc., fine. But why constantly bash people who do enjoy it?


It's not really bashing, it's just expressing our disappointment and frustration. As far as bashing goes, beginning with "Around The World In A Day", Prince gained a whole new type of fans that were into and totally enjoyed his new weird far out style better than the harder edge earlier Prince. I, myself, remember saying back then "Hell, as long as these new fans like this mess, he will never get broke enough to be forced to go back to being the hard, kick-ass Prince, I know and love." Us fans that like his harder edged stuff are the reason he continues to make a jam every now and then. We are the reason he doesn't completely put out totally 100% weak "creative" bull, so feel free to bash us also.

Of course, we all know that our voice is not going to change Prince but this site and this topic was intended for people to express our opinions and that's what we are doing.



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Reply #174 posted 01/13/05 11:46pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

skywalker said:

Yeah Prince sucks. He just had his 2nd biggest year ever-but he sucks. Instead of trollin' around this website (a website you are constantly visiting about an artist you claim to dislike) why don't you enlighten us as to what is "quality music" these days? What do you like? It seems as if you didn't like Prince you wouldn't hang around here. Yet you do. So tell us- is there anything you actually enjoy? What bands do you listen to and think "have balls" and "don't suck"?


Is this thread about Prince, or me?

I was under the impression that this thread was about Prince. If you wanna make a thread about me, then go right ahead.



Listen, you said Prince wasn't doing quality music or anything "ballsy". So, enlighten me. What music right now do you think is quality and "has balls" or "doesn't suck." If don't feel comfortable expanding on your viewpoints here you can always send me an org note.

Vainandy- you are much more articulate in expressing your viewpoints and, although we often don't agree, I understand where you are coming from.

EWM- I am asking you to expand on your viewpoints without reverting to complete trolling and bashing just to get people riled up. You are right-what has Prince done for YOU lately? So let me know-what in todays music scene is "quality music" to you?

By the way- I doubt Duran Duran can post the kind of numbers that Prince did in 2004. Remember when you said his tour would flop and it was the hottest shit of 2004?
The man is , contrary to what you believe, not just resting on his laurels. Did you go to a "Musicology" show?
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dumbass said:

KoolEaze said:

False.
Remember people said this when Sign of the Times came out, they said it before Batman sold millions of units, they said it before Diamonds and Pearls came out, they said it before The Most Beautiful Girl In The World came out, and they said it before Musicology came out..OK, he gave away cds at concerts, but even without the giveaway cds it would have gone high in the charts with the tour alone, and that is without any real hit single and minimal promotion .
They also said it before the Gold Experience came out, and that could´ve been a hit if it wasn´t for the war with Warner Bros. Remember I Hate U made it to position 11 in the pop charts without any real promotion behind it and a very cheaply shot video.


all these words and not one of them has to do with the question asked, whether he has a great album in him, which has nothing to do with album sales. in fact, this wouldn't even be a compelling argument of whether he has another major hit in him, since what he does tomorrow has very little to do with what he did yesterday. although some of us are still stuck in the past.




No, I´m not stuck in the past, I enjoyed most of his 90s releases, I found good songs even on controversial albums like NPS or TRC. And of course album sales are not really an indicator whether the music is great or not. What I was trying to say was that I think SOTT and to some extent even Diamonds and Pearls ( if it wasn´t for Tony M) were great albums, the Gold Experience was a great album of unexpected quality, and most people had already written him off and doubted he´d ever release good music again...and he proved them wrong.

I´m merely saying that yes,he can still put out a great album with great music..
TRC was a great album, even though I dislike 1+1+1=3 and Everlasting Now .

Musicology is also decent,admittedly not great, but good, IMHO. I don´t like
songs like On The Couch and the title track or Life of the Party, but other than that it has some nice music on it.
Prince himself said that this one wasn´t intended to be some grand artistic statement.
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Reply #176 posted 01/14/05 5:33am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:


If you think he sucks now (and I know you get asked this quite a lot) why do you continue to post here and listen to each new album?

Because I enjoy expressing my opinions, and I listen to new albums out of curiosity. However, I don't buy his music anymore.

The fact that you go through the trouble to make an appearance here every now and then is very telling.

Believe me, it's no trouble at all.

Oh wait I know you "just wanted to see how many people were drinking the purple kool-aid." No, no wait, you "just stopped by to see how many people were still riding his jock."

Uh, no.

The fact of the matter is everybody has different tastes in music. You don't like NEWS, TRC, etc., fine. But why constantly bash people who do enjoy it?

Who have I bashed?

You mentioned you wanted some "cutting edge, hard hitting" music like he was starting to do between 93 - 95. Please site some individual songs that you found to meet that criteria.

Just to name a few, Loose!, Endorphinmachine, Interactive, Joint 2 Joint, Pheromone, Emale, Dolphin, I Like It There, 319, etc.

I remember some real clunkers and bunch of cover songs myself. And please don't bother to mention one of the most overrated boots ever, The Undertaker.

The Undertaker is better than anything he's done in the past 8 years.





LOL! So predictable. I just knew you were one of those Undertaker people. LOL! Btw, 319 is just a updated version of Kiss, hardly cutting edge or hard hitting. Dolphin, eh, I have my on reasons hating that song that has nothing to do with the song. Funny, but a lot of the examples you gave came from albums that were either panned by fans and critics alike when they were released or lumped into the category of "overproduced" shlock.

And you have often refered to people who enjoyed the TRC, NEWS and the like as "sheep".
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Reply #177 posted 01/14/05 5:40am

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vainandy said:

Ifsixwuz9 said

The fact of the matter is everybody has different tastes in music. You don't like NEWS, TRC, etc., fine. But why constantly bash people who do enjoy it?


It's not really bashing, it's just expressing our disappointment and frustration. As far as bashing goes, beginning with "Around The World In A Day", Prince gained a whole new type of fans that were into and totally enjoyed his new weird far out style better than the harder edge earlier Prince. I, myself, remember saying back then "Hell, as long as these new fans like this mess, he will never get broke enough to be forced to go back to being the hard, kick-ass Prince, I know and love." Us fans that like his harder edged stuff are the reason he continues to make a jam every now and then. We are the reason he doesn't completely put out totally 100% weak "creative" bull, so feel free to bash us also.

Of course, we all know that our voice is not going to change Prince but this site and this topic was intended for people to express our opinions and that's what we are doing.



Calling people sheep and misguided lemmings and things of that nature are bashing. I'm not about to try and look for every post EWM has made, but he has been extremely harsh to anyone who doesn't automatically agree with his point of view of what Prince should be doing (not so much in this specific thread) many times in the past.

And the point a lot of people are trying to make is that since he has said time and time again he really doesn't like anything Prince has produced in years and years why bother coming here?

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Reply #178 posted 01/14/05 5:53am

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Don't care what your reasons may be. It can be cause he's old, cause he's a more clean guy as a JW now, cause he's already accomplished everything, or whatever. Just say true or false to that statement based on your personal opinion.



False. As someone else said, define great.
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vainandy said:



It's not really bashing, it's just expressing our disappointment and frustration. As far as bashing goes, beginning with "Around The World In A Day", Prince gained a whole new type of fans that were into and totally enjoyed his new weird far out style better than the harder edge earlier Prince. I, myself, remember saying back then "Hell, as long as these new fans like this mess, he will never get broke enough to be forced to go back to being the hard, kick-ass Prince, I know and love." Us fans that like his harder edged stuff are the reason he continues to make a jam every now and then. We are the reason he doesn't completely put out totally 100% weak "creative" bull, so feel free to bash us also.

Of course, we all know that our voice is not going to change Prince but this site and this topic was intended for people to express our opinions and that's what we are doing.



Calling people sheep and misguided lemmings and things of that nature are bashing. I'm not about to try and look for every post EWM has made, but he has been extremely harsh to anyone who doesn't automatically agree with his point of view of what Prince should be doing (not so much in this specific thread) many times in the past.

And the point a lot of people are trying to make is that since he has said time and time again he really doesn't like anything Prince has produced in years and years why bother coming here?


Everyone has their favorite Prince era or may like Prince for one particular style of music or another. Just because Prince is an extremely versitile artist, does not mean that all his fans are going to be. We are individuals just like he is with our own tastes.

I've seen threads where people were asked to compile a Prince album of rock only tracks. Evil White Male excelled over everyone else in the thread. It seems to me that his favorite Prince, is the rock side of Prince. I'm sure Evil White Male probably still listens to those songs so he is still a fan, he just doesn't like what Prince has been doing lately and is fed up. I know countless people that call themselves ex-fans but they still listen to their favorite era of Prince to this day, so I consider them as still fans.

To give him the feeling that he is not welcome here is totally wrong. That's like saying "America, love it or leave it!". He may express his opinion in a harsh way but he still has a right to express it.
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