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Printablepapabeat said: Absolutely false. Great artists who are prolific and continue to work at their craft are always capable of creating great art. Cases in point:
- Picasso - Wayne Shorter - Elvis Costello - Martin Scorsese - Michaelangelo - Annette Bening - Bruce Springsteen - Robert Pollard - John Coltrane - Ingmar Bergman - Jack Nicholson - Siouxsie Sioux As for Prince, I can't wait for the next great album. [Edited 1/8/05 9:53am] Yes - but these people never STOPPED being great and then had to try and pick up where they left off - Prince has. Sure, he's not the crappest person around but hes ceratinly average now. | |
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FALSE... I will never, EVER count this man out. He always has something incredible, even on his worst albums    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: AsianBoi777 said: Lucas is also using his own money, his own studio, and his own everything--nobody tells him when it's aweful. Prince is in pretty much the same boat. These fuckers don't have qualilty control. Ofcourse, with all this freedom, it actually should lead to awesome things, but in the case of both of them, they've somehow lost their muse or ascended to such levels that they no longer feel the fire. sad, really--I think there's hope for Prince. Lucas had his shot. The problem is that they're not hungry anymore. They're comfortable so everything is sunshine and lollipops now. Give Prince pain and misery and then maybe we'll see some action. I think we need to get Larry G. to fuck Prince's wife and have him walk in on them. That could get the ball rolling. But you do not seriously wish for that just so that you can really enjoy a new Prince album again, right? | |
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skywalker said: AsianBoi777 said: Lucas is also using his own money, his own studio, and his own everything--nobody tells him when it's aweful. Prince is in pretty much the same boat. These fuckers don't have qualilty control. Ofcourse, with all this freedom, it actually should lead to awesome things, but in the case of both of them, they've somehow lost their muse or ascended to such levels that they no longer feel the fire. sad, really--I think there's hope for Prince. Lucas had his shot. Yeah right. Lucas fucked up Star Wars and Prince is washed up? You know that your ass was in a seat for Prince's tour and that same ass will be in a seat in May for the new Star Wars movie. Prince's tour was the biggest of the year and Star Wars is unquestionably a blockbuster everytime. You people are living in some kind of dream world where if everything isn't as it was in the 80's, when you were younger, then you say it's crap. If you really were objective you would see that there are songs on "Musicology" that are as good as anything Prince did in the 80's and that Mark Hamill's acting in the original "Star Wars" is much worse than anyone in the new movies. As much a I love me some 1983 muppets it's 2005 and it'd be nice for some of you to understand that. Lucas and Prince are both revolutionary artists who have bucked the system and play by their own rules. They do whatever the hell they want. What have cynical fans done(whether it is Prince music or Star Wars movies) besides simultaneously badmouth and spend money on their obsession ? Nope. Didn't bother to see One Night Alone or Musicology when it came to town. Saw the track listing, and said "no thank you". I went and saw some newer fresher acts instead. I did buy Musicology becuase of the good reviews, but haven't listenned to it in months. And I never said the original Starwars movies where good. I loved and still love the Empire Strikes Back--but I disliked Episode 4, and 6. And the new movies are aweful. Just a bunch of eye candy, bad acting, and very little that moves the story line through. THey are better than epsiode 4, but that's not saying much. And I don't recall calling Prince "Washed up". I don't think that he's washed up. I think that he's in a low ebb. Oh, and I don't recall EVER wanting to relive the glory of the 80's. Pure and simple, when Prince is spot on, he's incredible. When, he sucks, he just sucks. Right now, he sucks. I never implied that this was the end and demise of Prince's musical and artistic career. But thanks for reading between the lines? | |
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It seems an odd question to ask when his last 2 major released
albums have been great...loco. Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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True.
at least as far as truly classic albums go. he can still pull out a classic song occasionally on some relatively mediocre albums, as he's been doing for the last 14 or 15 years. |
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The Rainbow Children and N.E.W.S. r classic Prince albums
The ? is not whether he has it n him... but whether u have it n u? | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: It's time to bring back synths and guitars.
 Evil, I agree with you 100%. What people fail to realize is that P was at his peak when he utilized the synths and guitars. Also, I seem to notice that P wrote most of his best songs when he was was single, horny,and depressed.
In other words, if P is to write a great album than, he will have to rearrange his life back to its original state. Don't get me wrong, I am happy as a fan to see him at peace but his art is suffering b/c I haven't heard a true kick ass P album in years that I can play all the way through w/out skipping singles. [Edited 1/9/05 8:45am] | |
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purpledoveuk said: dreamfactory313 said: Absolutely FALSE.
True It must be - surely he doesnt set out to make crap albums everytime..it just seems to happen that way Isn't it funny what we percieve as crap only turns out to be gold a few years later??? | |
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 It will be interesting to see if this jazz thing works out.[Edited 1/9/05 8:48am] | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: It's time to bring back synths and guitars.  Andy is a four letter word. | |
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skywalker said: Hey look everyone-Evil white male is back. I almost didn't notice.It seems now that 2004 is done and Prince has wrapped up one of his most successful runs ever, EWM has taken his foot out of his mouth and finished eating crow. Well, here is to hoping for another year of EWM's overly critical, oddly obsessive, blindly negative rants. I love you brother.
No, we need you so we can point our fuckin' fingers and say "There's the guy who stopped being a Prince fan around 1995 and is still hangin' around 10 years later." Actually, it's nice to see him back. Now we can get some different opinions around here. I was getting tired of being the "lone wolf" of the org. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Hotlegs said: EvilWhiteMale said: It's time to bring back synths and guitars.
Evil, I agree with you 100%. What people fail to realize is that P was at his peak when he utilized the synths and guitars. Also, I seem to notice that P wrote most of his best songs when he was was single, horny,and depressed.
In other words, if P is to write a great album than, he will have to rearrange his life back to its original state. Don't get me wrong, I am happy as a fan to see him at peace but his art is suffering b/c I haven't heard a true kick ass P album in years that I can play all the way through w/out skipping singles. [Edited 1/9/05 8:45am] Amen! You tell 'em Hotlegs. Good to see you again too.  [Edited 1/9/05 9:13am] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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rando310 said: purpledoveuk said: True It must be - surely he doesnt set out to make crap albums everytime..it just seems to happen that way Isn't it funny what we percieve as crap only turns out to be gold a few years later??? Somehow I doubt that ONA and NEWS will ever be re-discovered as works of genius. They are what they are Prince TRYING to be groundbreaking again like he was right up until the 90's...trouble is there are many noticable groundbreak artists around TODAY...Prince is trying to be groundbreaking 5 years behind the res of the world...christ even Jamie Cullum is doing clinky clanky jazz albums and he's only just out of diapers | |
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purpledoveuk said: rando310 said: Isn't it funny what we percieve as crap only turns out to be gold a few years later??? Somehow I doubt that ONA and NEWS will ever be re-discovered as works of genius. They are what they are Prince TRYING to be groundbreaking again like he was right up until the 90's...trouble is there are many noticable groundbreak artists around TODAY...Prince is trying to be groundbreaking 5 years behind the res of the world...christ even Jamie Cullum is doing clinky clanky jazz albums and he's only just out of diapers Actually..i find NEWS to be genious..maybe not in the factor that stuff hasn't been done before, but that it is very refreshing and an awesome experience to behold... | |
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False - I believe that Musicology was a great album!  Fryd - Always Park The Car Sideways! | |
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Hotlegs said: EvilWhiteMale said: It's time to bring back synths and guitars.
Evil, I agree with you 100%. What people fail to realize is that P was at his peak when he utilized the synths and guitars. Also, I seem to notice that P wrote most of his best songs when he was was single, horny,and depressed.
In other words, if P is to write a great album than, he will have to rearrange his life back to its original state. Don't get me wrong, I am happy as a fan to see him at peace but his art is suffering b/c I haven't heard a true kick ass P album in years that I can play all the way through w/out skipping singles. [Edited 1/9/05 8:45am] you said it. Bruce Springsteen needed september 11th to write a new brilliant record. | |
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calldapplwondery83 said: EvilWhiteMale said: The problem is that they're not hungry anymore. They're comfortable so everything is sunshine and lollipops now. Give Prince pain and misery and then maybe we'll see some action. I think we need to get Larry G. to fuck Prince's wife and have him walk in on them. That could get the ball rolling. But you do not seriously wish for that just so that you can really enjoy a new Prince album again, right? No, I can't say I do. But at this point it seems like the only way he'll bounce back. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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Anji said: The Rainbow Children and N.E.W.S. r classic Prince albums
The ? is not whether he has it n him... but whether u have it n u? Stop that. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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I started doubting it after the 1996-2000 period.
that was the lowest point in his career ever for me. But then "The Rainbow Children" was released and it ranks right up there with his best 80's albums imo. I like "Xpectation""CNOTE""NEWS" and "ONA PIANO" a whole damn lot too. It's just "Musicology" that frightened me because it seems half a step backward to that horrible kind of "NPS _ EMANCIPATION _ RAVE" sound he had going on for a while there. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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Hotlegs said: EvilWhiteMale said: It's time to bring back synths and guitars.
Evil, I agree with you 100%. What people fail to realize is that P was at his peak when he utilized the synths and guitars. Also, I seem to notice that P wrote most of his best songs when he was was single, horny,and depressed.
In other words, if P is to write a great album than, he will have to rearrange his life back to its original state. Don't get me wrong, I am happy as a fan to see him at peace but his art is suffering b/c I haven't heard a true kick ass P album in years that I can play all the way through w/out skipping singles. It gets tiring hitting that skip button all the time. Eventually I just stopped buying his albums. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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rando310 said: Isn't it funny what we percieve as crap only turns out to be gold a few years later??? It does?  "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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Hotlegs said: It will be interesting to see if this jazz thing works out.
Hasn't worked out yet. Not the kind of jazz he's been doing these past few years. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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The problem is that since Prince's tour was such a hit, a lot of people automatically think the album is great and sold on its own. It just sold well because concert goers had no choice in buying it. But no one had really been talking about it. If you talk to the average music fan on the street, they'll still say Diamonds and Pearls was Prince's last album. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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IstenSzek said: I started doubting it after the 1996-2000 period.
that was the lowest point in his career ever for me. But then "The Rainbow Children" was released and it ranks right up there with his best 80's albums imo. It's just "Musicology" that frightened me because it seems half a step backward to that horrible kind of "NPS _ EMANCIPATION _ RAVE" sound he had going on for a while there. EXACTLY my sentiments. ยป NouveauDance [Edited 1/9/05 10:42am] | |
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Totally False. Prince has more in his little pinky finger to make an album over these losers like Usher, Britney, Lil Jon and oh my God Ashlee Simpson put together. He doesn't have to sound like he did 20 years ago. All he has to do is keep in real and keep in live. He can go mainstream and he can go out of the ordinary (ex. Rainbow Children and Musicology). He's got the megatalent to do both. | |
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Who makes great albums anymore? computer technology has ruined studio albums.
Now will i be hearing from the radiohead fans. keep it analog | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: It's time to bring back synths and guitars.
...and a drum machine! I woke up sunday morning with no way to hold my head that didn't hurt
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babynoz said: EmancipationLover said: FALSE!!!
Sorry folks if I sound a little bit angry but I'm a little tired of all this "Prince doesn't have it anymore"-"the 90's were bad" stuff. I just can't stand it anymore. Sorry, but if you get sick of Prince these days, go and open up usher.org or britney.org or (even better) ashlee.org and discuss their "great musicianship" and "excellent albums" there   I mean, I will not defend anything the little man has ever made or released, but TRC and Musicology (and even most parts of Rave) were excellent and GREAT. O.k., they might be different from what some people want or expect from him, but that's Prince, always doing the unexpected, always proceeding, hating to repeat himself (isn't that an aspect of him most of us love???). So, if you are just into Prince because of albums he made back in the days when Ronald Reagan was U.S. president and a C64 was cutting edge in computer technology, maybe you should open a museum (maybe the "Purple Rain museum"), but I really can't understand why people spend their time posting in internet forums just to complain how great P's past was and how boring he is nowadays.
And, btw, I really get tired of all this "Larry G bad boy" stuff, do you really think that a man so innovative and polarizing as Prince is not able to develop his own opinion, but just does things another person tells him? I mean, I'm not a JW, but we should respect P's decision and stop making stupid jokes about it. Again, sorry guys for so much angriness, but I feel better now I agree 100%. Thank goodness P doesn't listen to the whining drivel of fan's expectations. He goes where his spirit takes him. If there are some who don't understand or appreciate where he is at any given time with his music....tough. Personally, after 25 plus years I've learned to let go of my expectations and simply trust him as the captain of this ship. Sometimes he takes us places that are exotic and thrilling.....sometimes quiet and soothing.....sometimes fun and silly.....sometimes heart wrenching and scary. What an awesome journey this has been! If people could just release their expectations, relax and FLOW with him I think they'd get a lot more enjoyment from his later work. I happen to LOVE Emancipation, Rave, etc. Wherever he's going next my bags are packed and I'm ready to go! I wouldn't have him any other way than the way he is right NOW. It ain't ova! babynoz! your wording is so freakin pricless. Love how u put those words together and yes they r so true. P is on a journey and I'm bless 2 b a part of it. Can't help but love that kid... lol babynoz! I love your post and this thread.    | |
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