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Updated: Jay-Z Announces 4:44 Tour




06/19/2017



4:44 is a new Jay-Z album and it's arriving on June 30.


It will be a Sprint and Tidal exclusive -- Sprint purchased 33 percent of the streaming service in January -- and fans will have to be Sprint customers or Tidal member to get it.



The official announcement from Sprint came after midnight Sunday follow a release earlier in the evening of a teaser video for what a previous teaser described as an NC-17 movie starring Mahershala Ali, Lupita Nyong'o and Danny Glover.



The 30-second video, which features black-and-white footage of Ali training as a boxer, is soundtracked by a new song, "Adnis."

There's not much of "Adnis" to be heard in the clip -- just an instrumental intro and the verse: “Letter to my dad that I never wrote/Speeches I prepared that I never spoke/Words on the paper that I never read/Proses never penned, they stayed in my head.”




http://bit.ly/2sOGUna

[Edited 7/10/17 7:34am]

"Fall like lightning.''
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Reply #1 posted 06/19/17 9:59am

Musicslave

I sure hope there's some changes with this track. Sounds wack.

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Reply #2 posted 06/19/17 10:01am

Dasein

I'm gonna get killed for this but Jay-Z is the most overrated rapper of all time. His flow is boring;
his voice is boring; and he's said nothing in the past 20 years that gave me pause.

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Reply #3 posted 06/19/17 12:07pm

paisleypark4

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Dasein said:

I'm gonna get killed for this but Jay-Z is the most overrated rapper of all time. His flow is boring;
his voice is boring; and he's said nothing in the past 20 years that gave me pause.

He aiight. There is nothing like "You Must Love Me" in recent years but he def has classics under his belt including Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint, Black Album and American Gangster. Blueprint 3 wasnt bad either. Holy Grail sucked though I wasnt a fan of his last album.

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Reply #4 posted 06/19/17 4:49pm

mjscarousal

Dasein said:

I'm gonna get killed for this but Jay-Z is the most overrated rapper of all time. His flow is boring;
his voice is boring; and he's said nothing in the past 20 years that gave me pause.

Wow, we finally agree on something. He is the most overrated rapper.

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Reply #5 posted 06/19/17 6:14pm

luvsexy4all

mjscarousal said:

Dasein said:

I'm gonna get killed for this but Jay-Z is the most overrated rapper of all time. His flow is boring;
his voice is boring; and he's said nothing in the past 20 years that gave me pause.

Wow, we finally agree on something. He is the most overrated rapper.

yet hes in the songwriters hall of fame

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Reply #6 posted 06/19/17 6:48pm

mjscarousal

luvsexy4all said:

mjscarousal said:

Wow, we finally agree on something. He is the most overrated rapper.

yet hes in the songwriters hall of fame

And Green Day is in the Rock Hall of Fame, so the fuq what?

Clearly none of this means nothing....

[Edited 6/19/17 18:49pm]

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Reply #7 posted 06/20/17 5:39am

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luvsexy4all said:

mjscarousal said:

Wow, we finally agree on something. He is the most overrated rapper.

yet hes in the songwriters hall of fame

Well that tells you something then.

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Reply #8 posted 06/20/17 6:08am

Musicslave

laurarichardson said:

luvsexy4all said:

yet hes in the songwriters hall of fame

Well that tells you something then.

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And what does that tell us?

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Reply #9 posted 06/20/17 6:13am

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Musicslave said:

laurarichardson said:

Well that tells you something then.

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And what does that tell us?

That anyone can buy their way in. Do you really think Jay-Z is a great songwritter.? Will people be going around humming his tunes 5 or even 20 years from now? Is Jay-Z a Lennon-McCarthy or Dylan like songwritter?

He does not even meet the level of the Motown songwritting teams.

I am not knocking him as a businessman. I just never thought he had a lot of talent music wise.

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Reply #10 posted 06/20/17 7:53am

Musicslave

laurarichardson said:

Musicslave said:

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And what does that tell us?

That anyone can buy their way in. Do you really think Jay-Z is a great songwritter.? Will people be going around humming his tunes 5 or even 20 years from now? Is Jay-Z a Lennon-McCarthy or Dylan like songwritter?

He does not even meet the level of the Motown songwritting teams.

I am not knocking him as a businessman. I just never thought he had a lot of talent music wise.

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Ok. I just needed clarity on your POV that's all. Thanks.

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And yes, there are countless other writers in Hip Hop that deserved to be recognized long before Shawn. This is just a part of his marketing and promotion of his new record he's dropping soon.

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Reply #11 posted 06/20/17 8:57am

rdhull

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laurarichardson said:

Musicslave said:

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And what does that tell us?

That anyone can buy their way in. Do you really think Jay-Z is a great songwritter.? Will people be going around humming his tunes 5 or even 20 years from now?

they do now 20 years after his debut

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #12 posted 06/20/17 9:45am

laurarichardso
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rdhull said:

laurarichardson said:

That anyone can buy their way in. Do you really think Jay-Z is a great songwritter.? Will people be going around humming his tunes 5 or even 20 years from now?

they do now 20 years after his debut

I doubt if you took a random poll of young people they could tell you one song.

On a good day he is not even on Jam and Lewis level of songwritting.

Next we will put Bones, Thugs and Harmony in the songwriters hall of fame.

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Reply #13 posted 06/20/17 9:46am

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Musicslave said:

laurarichardson said:

That anyone can buy their way in. Do you really think Jay-Z is a great songwritter.? Will people be going around humming his tunes 5 or even 20 years from now? Is Jay-Z a Lennon-McCarthy or Dylan like songwritter?

He does not even meet the level of the Motown songwritting teams.

I am not knocking him as a businessman. I just never thought he had a lot of talent music wise.

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Ok. I just needed clarity on your POV that's all. Thanks.

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And yes, there are countless other writers in Hip Hop that deserved to be recognized long before Shawn. This is just a part of his marketing and promotion of his new record he's dropping soon.

Of course he is marketing his new recording.

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Reply #14 posted 06/20/17 10:16am

mjscarousal

rdhull said:

laurarichardson said:

That anyone can buy their way in. Do you really think Jay-Z is a great songwritter.? Will people be going around humming his tunes 5 or even 20 years from now?

they do now 20 years after his debut

What teenager is humming any of Jay Z's songs off of his debut? What song off of his debut is lyrically relevant today? You Jay Z fans always throw up Reasonable Doubt as his most "artistic work" but all of Tupac and Nas 90s albums are more relevant and influential than any of his albums, including Reasonable Doubt.

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Reply #15 posted 06/20/17 10:18am

mjscarousal

laurarichardson said:

rdhull said:

they do now 20 years after his debut

I doubt if you took a random poll of young people they could tell you one song.

On a good day he is not even on Jam and Lewis level of songwritting.

Next we will put Bones, Thugs and Harmony in the songwriters hall of fame.

I think its crazy how they picked him over Madonna and George Michael to be inducted.

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Reply #16 posted 06/20/17 10:20am

mjscarousal

laurarichardson said:

Musicslave said:

-

And what does that tell us?

That anyone can buy their way in. Do you really think Jay-Z is a great songwritter.? Will people be going around humming his tunes 5 or even 20 years from now? Is Jay-Z a Lennon-McCarthy or Dylan like songwritter?

He does not even meet the level of the Motown songwritting teams.

I am not knocking him as a businessman. I just never thought he had a lot of talent music wise.

GREAT post! These things mean nothing anymore and accolades can be paid for.

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Reply #17 posted 06/20/17 11:07am

Dasein

luvsexy4all said:

mjscarousal said:

Wow, we finally agree on something. He is the most overrated rapper.

yet hes in the songwriters hall of fame


Just because you're famous for something doesn't mean you were actually good at doing that
something.


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laurarichardso
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mjscarousal said:

laurarichardson said:

I doubt if you took a random poll of young people they could tell you one song.

On a good day he is not even on Jam and Lewis level of songwritting.

Next we will put Bones, Thugs and Harmony in the songwriters hall of fame.

I think its crazy how they picked him over Madonna and George Michael to be inducted.

See that proved my point. That is ridculous

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Reply #19 posted 06/20/17 1:02pm

rdhull

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mjscarousal said:

rdhull said:

they do now 20 years after his debut

What teenager is humming any of Jay Z's songs off of his debut? What song off of his debut is lyrically relevant today? You Jay Z fans always throw up Reasonable Doubt as his most "artistic work" but all of Tupac and Nas 90s albums are more relevant and influential than any of his albums, including Reasonable Doubt.

Wtf are you even talking about? why are you aleays so con..nevermind. I forgot the org

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #20 posted 06/20/17 1:04pm

rdhull

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all the teens are humming the songs of ones already in the SHOF though...right? lol

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Reply #21 posted 06/20/17 1:47pm

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Also inducted into the Hall of Fame this year: Kenneth Edmonds, best known as Babyface, who, in addition to his solo work, wrote songs for Whitney Houston and Boyz II Men; the R&B producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis (Janet Jackson, Mary J. Blige); the Swedish pop mastermind Max Martin (Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Katy Perry); and the band Chicago’s chief songwriters, Robert Lamm, James Pankow and Peter Cetera. Mr. Gordy, the Motown founder, was honored as well, after deferring his induction last year.



As much as people sample Jay's music these days and quotes I can see it. Hes been in the game for over twenty years, wrote several hit songs for other artists including Foxy Brown, Dr. Dre and Memphis Bleek.

[Edited 6/20/17 13:48pm]

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Reply #22 posted 06/20/17 6:44pm

mjscarousal

rdhull said:

mjscarousal said:

What teenager is humming any of Jay Z's songs off of his debut? What song off of his debut is lyrically relevant today? You Jay Z fans always throw up Reasonable Doubt as his most "artistic work" but all of Tupac and Nas 90s albums are more relevant and influential than any of his albums, including Reasonable Doubt.

Wtf are you even talking about? why are you aleays so con..nevermind. I forgot the org

Thats the same thing I said when I read your post. Yall (as the org) always stanning hard for this overrated bimbo and his overrated wife and its pathetic.

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Reply #23 posted 06/20/17 6:46pm

woogiebear

Everything after THE BLACK ALBUM???? Moments "here & there"

cool

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Reply #24 posted 06/20/17 7:23pm

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I hate when peeps sat Jay is overrated. And say because of his recent material. Jay has been putting out records since the early 90s.

That's like hearing a recent O'Jays song and saying these guys are trash. How are they in the Rock Hall.

Kr watching Patrick Ewing as a Orlando Magic and saying how was this guy ever an 11 time all-star?
PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It
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Reply #25 posted 06/20/17 7:33pm

mjscarousal

^ He is not a more influential songwriter than Madonna or George Michael (this is not subjective). The fact that he was picked over more influential songwriters makes him rightfully overrated.

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Reply #26 posted 06/20/17 7:40pm

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mjscarousal said:

^ He is not a more influential songwriter than Madonna or George Michael (this is not subjective). The fact that he was picked over more influential songwriters makes him rightfully overrated.


No it makes him a famous name in music today.
PRINCE: Always and Forever
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Reply #27 posted 06/20/17 7:42pm

rdhull

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mjscarousal said:

rdhull said:

Wtf are you even talking about? why are you aleays so con..nevermind. I forgot the org

Thats the same thing I said when I read your post. Yall (as the org) always stanning hard for this overrated bimbo and his overrated wife and its pathetic.

Ive never stanned for Jay or Beyonce lol. Plus he isnt overrated as rapper just because you dont like him. And why does it bother you so muh when someone likes (or stans) for someone you dislike? Wait..dont answer. I already know lol

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #28 posted 06/20/17 7:43pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

I hate when peeps sat Jay is overrated. And say because of his recent material. Jay has been putting out records since the early 90s. That's like hearing a recent O'Jays song and saying these guys are trash. How are they in the Rock Hall. Kr watching Patrick Ewing as a Orlando Magic and saying how was this guy ever an 11 time all-star?

You gotta remember this is the org.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #29 posted 06/20/17 7:51pm

mjscarousal

LittleBLUECorvette said:

mjscarousal said:

^ He is not a more influential songwriter than Madonna or George Michael (this is not subjective). The fact that he was picked over more influential songwriters makes him rightfully overrated.

No it makes him a famous name in music today.

But in this case, its appropiate to call Jay Z overrated. He was selected to be inducted in the songwriters Hall of Fame over Madonna and George Michael. That is absurd.

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