morningsong said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Sure he did, but that doesn't mean things changed before he died. All I'm saying is that JayZ does not seem like the type of dude that Prince would have dealings with.

Personal opinion, yet has no basis in fact. Which is all good and fine, we all have an opinion. I've got mine too. Even about why people keep parroting the same thing over and over again. Say something enough times and sheeple will follow.

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Yes, we are all entitled to our opinions.

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JayZ's sheeple?

cloveringold85 said:

mjscarousal said:

Jay Z and Beyonce are jokes. They are JUST like the Kardashians, they will do anything for attention. I think all the cheating did happen (Jay Z admitted to it, all of it can't be lies). They are desperate for attention and decided to use that as a marketing draw....WHO DOES THAT? Why use your spousal infidelity for PR? Just shameful and classless. Jay Z exposed that Beyonce's brand is all a lie. How can you call yourself a feminist and sing about woman empowerment but you willing stay with a cheater and then continue to have more children with him? They are both jokes. Its shameful how they are using their marital issues for PR. Im glad a lot of people called him and Beyonce out for this album. I am so sick and tired of these overrated buffoms. They are tacky as hell. He has 3 kids why gloat about threesomes and giving gifts to your mistresses? Who does that?

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And, Prince supported these frauds?

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Does not sound like something Prince would be involved in, imo. Unless they had him under some type of hypnosis or something!

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Hun, I don't know what Prince was thinking associating with Jay Z and TIDAL It makes me sick to my stomach till this day.

mjscarousal said:

NaughtyKitty said:

While JAY-Z’s 4:44 Hasn’t Sold A Single Copy It Is Somehow Already Platinum

Tom Breihan @tombreihan | July 5, 2017 - 10:31 am

This past Friday, JAY-Z released his shockingly personal and intimate new album 4:44. It’s a great album, but people tended to have one big complaint about the thing: They couldn’t figure out how to hear it. At first, the album was only available to stream if you were a Sprint customer or if you’d become a Tidal subscriber before midnight on Friday night. Eventually, JAY opened it up to all Tidal subscribers. Still, that only covers a tiny subset of the population. And the album isn’t available for purchase anywhere; right now, it’s streaming-only. But this morning, the Recording Industry Association of America has certified 4:44 platinum.

According to a press release from the RIAA, 4:44 is now platinum, “recognizing 1 million albums sold and/or streamed in the United States.” That makes it the 13th JAY-Z solo studio album to be certified platinum or higher. That’s more than any other rapper in history. But so, um, how? Is the RIAA recognizing illegal downloads now? Or is it just contorting all possible logic so that it can give JAY-Z whatever he wants?

I do like how, in that picture, JAY looks as skeptical as the rest of us.

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UPDATE: Mystery solved! Our friends at Billboard have the scoop. Here’s the gist:

This is pretty much exactly what Jay negotiated with Samsung in order to push Rihanna’s ANTI to platinum status. What a clusterfuck that was! We wrote about that whole thing at considerable length a while back, and you can read all the gory details if you’re so inclined. Same story, different day. Also you can check out Billboard’s full report on the 4:44 situation here.

http://www.stereogum.com/1950287/jay-zs-444-hasnt-sold-a-single-copy-is-already-somehow-platinum/news/

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Thanks Sis, I knew this album did not go platinum, I knew this was a lie.

Yep, exactly! When I saw the headline about his album going platinum in a week (HA!) I knew it was some BS. Him and his wife are a match made in fraudster smoke n mirrors heaven

NaughtyKitty said:

mjscarousal said:

Thanks Sis, I knew this album did not go platinum, I knew this was a lie.

Yep, exactly! When I saw the headline about his album going platinum in a week (HA!) I knew it was some BS. Him and his wife are a match made in fraudster smoke n mirrors heaven

After what Jay revealed on this album, they are both jokes.

mjscarousal said:

cloveringold85 said:

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And, Prince supported these frauds?

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Does not sound like something Prince would be involved in, imo. Unless they had him under some type of hypnosis or something!

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Hun, I don't know what Prince was thinking associating with Jay Z and TIDAL It makes me sick to my stomach till this day.

He explained what he was thinking several times and was crystal clear about it. " I want to be paid a fair royalty rate and support a new business"

As far as the platimum award take it up with Billboard they are the one giving the certification and it should tell you something about the music industry.

laurarichardson said:

As far as the platimum award take it up with Billboard they are the one giving the certification and it should tell you something about the music industry.

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) calculates sales and streams for gold and platinum certifications not Billboard.

mjscarousal said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Yep, exactly! When I saw the headline about his album going platinum in a week (HA!) I knew it was some BS. Him and his wife are a match made in fraudster smoke n mirrors heaven

After what Jay revealed on this album, they are both jokes.

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Identity said:

laurarichardson said:

As far as the platimum award take it up with Billboard they are the one giving the certification and it should tell you something about the music industry.

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) calculates sales and streams for gold and platinum certifications not Billboard.

Well take it up with them. It should be lesson to not take the sales awards seriously and I thought everyone knew that when Prince did the Musicology give away.

laurarichardson said:

Identity said:

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) calculates sales and streams for gold and platinum certifications not Billboard.

Well take it up with them. It should be lesson to not take the sales awards seriously and I thought everyone knew that when Prince did the Musicology give away.

No we should not take what Jay Z says seriously.

Sales in the past were not calculated this way.

Once upon a time, sales were based on UNITS SOLD, NOT streams, NOT give aways.

That is what SALES are based on, PERIOD.

mjscarousal said:

laurarichardson said:

Well take it up with them. It should be lesson to not take the sales awards seriously and I thought everyone knew that when Prince did the Musicology give away.

No we should not take what Jay Z says seriously.

Sales in the past were not calculated this way.

Once upon a time, sales were based on UNITS SOLD, NOT streams, NOT give aways.

That is what SALES are based on, PERIOD.

Fake Platinum

mjscarousal said:

laurarichardson said:

Well take it up with them. It should be lesson to not take the sales awards seriously and I thought everyone knew that when Prince did the Musicology give away.

No we should not take what Jay Z says seriously.

Sales in the past were not calculated this way.

Once upon a time, sales were based on UNITS SOLD, NOT streams, NOT give aways.

That is what SALES are based on, PERIOD.

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Well said.

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The music industry has gone to hell. Prince never cared about any of that crap anyhow. He didn't care about contracts or awards........well, maybe record sales, yes; but at least he actually worked for his accolades.

mjscarousal said:

laurarichardson said:

Well take it up with them. It should be lesson to not take the sales awards seriously and I thought everyone knew that when Prince did the Musicology give away.

No we should not take what Jay Z says seriously.

Sales in the past were not calculated this way.

Once upon a time, sales were based on UNITS SOLD, NOT streams, NOT give aways.

That is what SALES are based on, PERIOD.

The RIAA factored in streaming over a year ago. Where have you guys been?

Read this:
http://www.billboard.com/...ethodology

Identity said:

mjscarousal said:

No we should not take what Jay Z says seriously.

Sales in the past were not calculated this way.

Once upon a time, sales were based on UNITS SOLD, NOT streams, NOT give aways.

That is what SALES are based on, PERIOD.

The RIAA factored in streaming over a year ago. Where have you guys been?

Read this:
http://www.billboard.com/...ethodology

I know and I think its still bullshit.

I don't care what RIAA says. UNITS SOLD= ALBUMS SALES, NOT Streams period.

mjscarousal said:

Identity said:

The RIAA factored in streaming over a year ago. Where have you guys been?

Read this:
http://www.billboard.com/...ethodology

I know and I think its still bullshit.

I don't care what RIAA says. UNITS SOLD= ALBUMS SALES, NOT Streams period.

What particular component of the RIAA's methodology do you disagree with when it comes to
its practices of counting "units sold"?

mjscarousal said:

Identity said:

The RIAA factored in streaming over a year ago. Where have you guys been?

Read this:
http://www.billboard.com/...ethodology

I know and I think its still bullshit.

I don't care what RIAA says. UNITS SOLD= ALBUMS SALES, NOT Streams period.

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I agree; it's a bunch of bullshit, really!

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Greed is a terrible thing.

woogiebear said:

Everything after THE BLACK ALBUM???? Moments "here & there"

Preach!!!!

Jay-Z Announces 4:44 Tour

07/10/17

Tidal users will have an opportunity to purchase tickets starting today at noon EST.

I'd rather a 420 tour...

Why not just retire.

Replica said:

Prince put albums in magazines and concert tickets, and "cheated" his way to album sales too. If you wanna talk about cheating, it's only a loop hole in the system that both of these geniuses has learned to take advantage of.

Both probably made more out of those deals as well.

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2freaky4church1 said:

Why not just retire.

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^^ ^^

missfee said:

woogiebear said:

Everything after THE BLACK ALBUM???? Moments "here & there"

Preach!!!!

And I (and I'm guessing maybe y'all and others) will take that.

I was all right with Prince's "here and there"-s after his prime, too.

Graycap23 said:

The word Fraudulent comes 2 mind.

The RIAA modified its rules to allow digital albums to be granted certification on their release date.

Identity said:

Graycap23 said:

The word Fraudulent comes 2 mind.

The RIAA modified its rules to allow digital albums to be granted certification on their release date.

It is fraudulent. If nobody purchased the album, its a not a product sold .You can continue to post what the RIAA says its not going to change that.

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Ok, movin' on:

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Identity said:

Ok, movin' on:

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I'm mad late: The song is okay. It's only getting attention due it's gossip factor for those who love to keep their noses in celebrities business. This song isn't his best. Far from it. Just because it's supposed to be honest or "most personal" song doesn't equate to it being dope. My two And the video is not as deep as they want it to be either. The breaks take away from the little the song has going for it, not enhances it.

Musicslave said:

Identity said:

Ok, movin' on:

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I'm mad late: The song is okay. It's only getting attention due it's gossip factor for those who love to keep their noses in celebrities business. This song isn't his best. Far from it. Just because it's supposed to be honest or "most personal" song doesn't equate to it being dope. My two And the video is not as deep as they want it to be either. The breaks take away from the little the song has going for it, not enhances it.

Thank you for being intelligent and using your brain. I honestly don't even understand the video. The video is all over the place and the song sucks. You're right, he is just using his marital problems for PR.