phillymonster said:

Can we confirm that Janet is giving her CD away for free with every suvenir sold at her concerts or was that just in San Francisco? Is Billboard counting these sales?

The rainbow Unbreakable tee at the show I went to was priced with a digital download.

OfftheWall said:

mjscarousal said:

What songs did Lisa sing that were about Michael? She is so fake and crazy with her obsession with MJ. I also thought of What I'll Do when I heard Gon B Alright

Her new cd has alot of the same talk she told Oprah. I Was Wrong - talking about how she didn't realize he truly loved her, Just a Dream - saying she's in love with him and he visits her in her dreams and she doesn't want to wake up if it's only a dream. Weary is another song that mentions the 'spiders' taking over his life and stuff. Pretty much the whole cd was about him and her leaving Scientology.

Thanks. I feel sorry for her current husband She is still obsessed someone she divorced over 20 something years ago. She needs to let it go and move on. All her songs are for attention, she used and trashed MJ for years. She never loved him, just pure obsession and lust.

Cinny said:

phillymonster said:

Can we confirm that Janet is giving her CD away for free with every suvenir sold at her concerts or was that just in San Francisco? Is Billboard counting these sales?

The rainbow Unbreakable tee at the show I went to was priced with a digital download.

The ,talented Janet did that, a week ago at The Forum here "In The Land Of Stars With Only One Moon". I've gotten some extra CD's that' I gave away....But forgot they had different cover that I could have collected..

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Cinny said:

The rainbow Unbreakable tee at the show I went to was priced with a digital download.

The ,talented Janet did that, a week ago at The Forum here "In The Land Of Star With Only One Moon". I've gotten some extra CD's that' I gave away....But forgot they had different cover that I could have collected..

I saw her a month before the CD came out. Oh well!

Nice thread-love the No sleep vid with J. Cole.

I finally got a chance to listen to Janet's new album from beginning to end just now.......

wowwwwwwwwwwwwww, Janet Jackson brought the dang on house, the juggernaut...........

I'm soooooooooooo proud of Janet Jackson, omg.......

Janet Jackson has returned back to her center, her true musical self

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis knows how to produce her musical talent better than anyone else

She is the unquestioned queen of the slow jam, no doubt about it

my favorite single on UNBREAKABLE is DAMM BABY,

Love ya Janet.......can't wait to see you in concert

it's a beautiful thing when things return back full circle

Scorp said:

I finally got a chance to listen to Janet's new album from beginning to end just now.......

wowwwwwwwwwwwwww, Janet Jackson brought the dang on house, the juggernaut...........

I'm soooooooooooo proud of Janet Jackson, omg.......

Janet Jackson has returned back to her center, her true musical self

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis knows how to produce her musical talent better than anyone else

She is the unquestioned queen of the slow jam, no doubt about it

my favorite single on UNBREAKABLE is DAMM BABY,

Love ya Janet.......can't wait to see you in concert

it's a beautiful thing when things return back full circle

I've been thinking about this aspect of her career. The songs, the tempos, and mostly her voice and how she uses it. I'm not sure how to explain it but but it has a different affect for me in each category (i won't explore the dance/pop joints, her energy and swag fuels those in a different way)

the mid-tempo smooth joints like No Sleep, Got Til Its Gone, Can't B Good, TTWLG, Spending Time W/U etc. - its like butter, soothing, sultry, mood music. PLUSH indeed!
the bedroom balladsTOO MANY to name, but Anytime, Anyplace, Anything, Rope Burn, Funny How Time Flies, etc. - here its a "come hither" effect, seductive, baby making music for sure
the non-bedroom contemplative ballad - the this is the newest "category" for me, it has fewer entries and is why Unbreakable is so different (but good) for me - Promise of U, Lessons Learned, Black Eagle - She's still using the "bedroom voice" sort of, but in a non-seductive way due to the subject matter, the effect is a certain poignancy I'm not used to from her or its becoming more effective, kind of Sade-ish
"stripped down and/or statement songs" - After U Fall, Truth, What About, Again - This category is the least clear for me, her voice is mostly unadorned, sometimes in her higher register, more thin - (or "wobbly" as one music critic described AYF) but communicates honesty and vulnerability
Even as I type there are lots of songs that don't fit in any of these categories where she does something different still with her voice. For the criticism she gets for not HAVING a voice, man, she can sure evoke lots of emotion with it/from it

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datdude said:

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Urban AC stations, they confirmed this song was indeed Unbreakable was serviced with 2 versions:

Radio Edit (2:37), Radio Edit w/Love Intro (3:06).

[Edited 10/24/15 20:47pm]

Steady sales! HITSDailyDouble has predicted about 20k sales for Janet Jackson's 3rd week in the USA, virtually the same as last week and enough to keep it floating around #10.

We'll see the definitive numbers from Billboard very soon, but for an album that envisions a 3-year promotion plan, Unbreakable is on the right track.

Scorp said:

I finally got a chance to listen to Janet's new album from beginning to end just now.......

wowwwwwwwwwwwwww, Janet Jackson brought the dang on house, the juggernaut...........

I'm soooooooooooo proud of Janet Jackson, omg.......

Janet Jackson has returned back to her center, her true musical self

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis knows how to produce her musical talent better than anyone else

She is the unquestioned queen of the slow jam, no doubt about it

my favorite single on UNBREAKABLE is DAMM BABY,

Love ya Janet.......can't wait to see you in concert

it's a beautiful thing when things return back full circle

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

The interlude for "Promise of You" is much better than the long song version. The interlude is beautifully mixed.

[Edited 10/26/15 9:59am]

BlackCat1985 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

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Is this going to be on display at the Forum from now on? [Edited 10/26/15 8:41am]

Sorry to say no . But it is currently on display in my bedroom..

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Of course!!

She's postponed some dates recently. Not too long before the shwo started either supposedly.

alphastreet said:

So unbreakable is the next single? What about burn it up?

urban ac jumped on unbreakable, its already charting on the format, i thought burnitup was suppose to be sent to top40, fans on janet.club said it has been added to some big stations but she hasnt really treated it like a single, not even a video or official single release.

"2 B Loved" Is going 2 b submitted to pop radio...

the album could truly have legs, but they DO need to get the singles right and treat them accordingly. i think Take Me Away is the one for pop radio. just saying.... I'll hope for the best

Still haven't heard it. I tried to buy tcikets to her concert for the London date but was forced to buy the CD with tickets, therefore I didn't buy either.

I'll get it one day. Maybe.

datdude said:

beatz01 said:

Yall must have been listening to a different album.I find it to be ok-ish at best.

after 2 or 3 spins this is what I think as well...

but I won't yet give it up, I will try harder, cause some people in here which I respect, gave it quite some praise

[Edited 10/29/15 4:54am]

Janet Jackson's Unbreakable not only debuted at No. 1, but also put BMG's recorded music division on the map... in a big way. BMG's label operation has been on the come-up in recent months, thanks to hit releases from Alabama and Iron Maiden. But Jackson's Billboard 200-topping debut, with 121,000 units moved (including 109,000 in album sales) for the week ending Oct. 8, was indeed sweet for BMG.

"We always believed that if Janet and Rhythm Nation became a part of the BMG family, it would take BMG to the next level, and be a great success both financially and creatively," BMG executive vp of recorded music Jon Cohen said in a statement. "We could not be more pleased with the success of Unbreakable, especially with the album becoming Janet's seventh No. 1 record, and the initial song "No Sleep" spending eight weeks at the No. 1 position on the Adult R&B chart. It is our first No. 1 in the US... [which is] the definition of having the ability to play with the big boys."

While some reports have questioned whether Jackson’s sales were kosher, Unbreakable's No. 1 was accomplished in accordance with rules determined by Billboard's charts department, which insure that the consumer makes a deliberate action to purchase an album. It is common nowadays for artists to try and generate more revenue with each purchase, and one of the ways that is accomplished is through bundling merchandise or concert tickets with records/downloads/etc. But in order for those sales to count, the customer must choose to buy the album by opting-in -- in this case by choosing to pay $10 over the price of a concert ticket in order to receive a copy of Unbreakable.

That was but one component of the marketing plan put together by Rhythm Nation, which is managed by JDJ and Sterling Winters Company. Jackson management worked in conjunction with partners Live Nation, Sales Force and My Music VIP to set up the album and tour. The Jackson team "have created a music owners loyalty experience at each concert," Cohen said. "This is unique to the industry, and is truly a testament to the out-of-the-box concepts Janet and her management team are capable of creating and implementing to perfection. The program fosters engagement and loyalty, resulting in the purchase of digital and physical music."

The success of the Jackson album is the culmination of a strategy launched after BMG parent Bertelsmann ended one chapter of its history in the music business. When BMG was revised by Bertelsmann in Octber 2008 -- right after it had sold its original music operations to Sony Corp in a two-stop process that began in 2004 and culminated on Sept. 30, 2008 -- the newly re-launched BMG company initially focused on building a music publishing business, even though it held out and retained ownership to some 180 albums from the sale of the original BMG assets.

Over the last few years BMG has acquired the assets of Sanctuary and Mute and the labels Vagrant, Infectious Music, and Rise, as well as powering up a recorded music operation, signing artists in the process. In September, BMG’s label operation began flexing its muscles when Iron Maiden’s Book of Souls hit No. 4 on the Billboard 200 with sales of about 74,000 units. It followed that up with Alabama’s Southern Drawl, which came in No. 2 on the Billboard country album chart with 21,000 scans (No. 14 on the Billboard 200) for the week ending Sept. 24, according to Nielsen Music. With the success of those albums, sources say that BMG is projecting its recorded music operation will see sales approaching $50 million in the U.S. over the next 12 months, and global sales approaching $100 million. With its publishing operation added in, BMG will have total revenue over half a billion dollars, making it a company well on its way to major label status (again). Alas, the label of "major" is one that BMG CEO Hartwig Masuch eschews, who considers it to carry negative connotations for many artists. Instead, Masuch insists that BMG will take a friendly approach to artists. That philosophy is visible it how its record labels deal with artists; while BMG owns the catalogs it has acquired, it provides new signings a range of options.

"We have tremendous flexibility, and will construct deals suited for how each artists wants to work," BMG U.S. president of creative and marketing Laurent Hubert tells Billboard. "We can do joint ventures, or split revenues 75/25 (in favor of the artists); or pay out in the traditional royalty structures. But typically we license the records for a period of time, and again that period depends on what kind of deal" the artist wants to construct. In the case of Jackson, BMG reached out, knowing it could rely on "the genius of Janet, Jimmy [Jam] and Terry [Lewis]" to deliver a great record and the marketing might of her management team JDJ Entertainment and Sterling Winters, the latter a kathy ireland [sic] Worldwide company. "We did not shop Janet’s project," according to a statement issued by Jackson’s management team (Jason Winters, Jaime Mendoza, Jessica Davenport and Stephen Roseberry). "There was only one meeting and it was with BMG."

Those executives add that a "tremendous amount" of research was conducted -- for several years -- to find the perfect home for Jackson and Rhythm Nation. "When we met with BMG, we knew this was going to be the right creative environment for Janet's future endeavors, including Unbreakable and her own company, Rhythm Nation." Moreover, they add, "The deal was negotiated with Janet's management team, legal team and BMG executives only.

Reports of Janet's husband being involved financially are fabrications, meant to distract from the couple's independent and successful global careers, as well as the beautiful love they share." One of those future endeavors might include some holiday music from Jackson, according to sources. But Jackson isn’t the only thing BMG has on its upcoming release slate.

Currently, BMG has dozens of distribution deals around the globe, sources say, because of its philosophy of wanting to accommodate artists and allowing them to choose what distributor they want to work with; and due to deals that were in place when label acquisitions were made. But sources say that its distribution set-up is proving to be unwieldy so BMG recently has put out a RFB -- request for bid -- to about four or five distributors, including INgrooves, Sony Music Entertainment and Universal Music Group, the latter is distributing the Janet Jackson album. Sources further say that the bids should include flexibility that would allow BMG to issue some albums through another distributor in the same market, if it should so choose. Meanwhile, Rise BMG's label operation remain separate, but both label components can tap some BMG shared services. Moreover the creative functions, like A&R and synch staffers, are integrated and serving both the BMG label and publishing operations. "I can’t underline the importance of having a really integrated publishing and recorded music team, just for the volume of business the synch team can generate," says Cohen. "But its also great to have arguably the biggest rock and pop writers in the business under our roof for those artist who want to collaborate with outside writers. That’s an incredible resource."

Tommy Parker on The Kelly Alexander Show

He talks about: -Influences in music which included the Jacksons, MJ, and Janet (even before they worked together) -What he considers his first big break (co-writing Janet's "Make Me") -How one of his credit names (McClendon) of his 3 (McClendon, Parker, and Lumpkins) was because Janet thought he should honor his mother who passed away -About first meeting Janet in 2009 -How he got involved with Unbreakable -His songs on Unbreakable (Unbreakable, Night, Dream Maker/Euphoria, 2 B Loved, Gon' B Alright, and Love U 4 Life) -What his favorite songs from the album are -The writing experience with Janet and Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis -Believes her being overseas the last few years is why the album is dedicated to the fans because she saw the love she was getting while she was away -What he learned by working with Janet -How Janet takes her time with songs rather than rushing them -The production process with Janet, Jimmy Jam, and Terry Lewis and what it was like witnessing the Janet, Jimmy Jam, and Terry Lewis process -That Janet actually recorded a lot of work for this album but it was narrowed down to what would make the album sound the most cohesive -How Janet told him that she wanted to make an album that said something and that people could look up to not what many of the females now make. -How modest Janet is about her impact/influence even though everybody who has worked for her, know her, and are fans of her see it and have told her about it -How Janet doesn't really like to use social media (why she only post things now and then) because Janet came from an era when an artist was mysterious/you didn't know much about them -What it feels like to be apart of a #1 album