errant said:

It is gettting a little bit out of control. Surely this is what leads mods to start sticky threads. Not start MORE threads on the same subject.

out of whose control?

If members want to talk about different periods in an entertainers career, and it's polite sharing and talk, why would a mod not like that?

scroll back Luv4u already posted something on this and it's really not a problem

The problem is when duplicate topics are being posted

Same subject would be: New album out, __ has a new Album out, Did you hear about the new Album out

Wasn't it you that said I should have had 2 seperate threads for Erotica & Bedtime Stories?

and yet u started another one ..yours is boring though..I'm outta here

go2theMax said:

and yet u started another one ..yours is boring though..I'm outta here

It matches the Subject matter.

Uh...

Madonna rules.

Exit stage left.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I hope this is not another nit picking bitch thread

cause I hope this isn't suggesting that everything is supposed to be posted to your comfort

And please tell me who is making you view any thread you don't like

Someone told me in the Prince Music & More forum basically there were a few too many Prince era threads, lol go figure, in a Prince Music forum... while others were talking about does Prince drink purple cool aid and what does he feet smell like

So many topics we all can create take part in or not

I'm so happy that what other do does not disturb my world on this forum

5 is good enough for me to answer your question

Pretty sad post from a mod.

There is no need for multiple threads on the same artist. I think consideration needs to be made for those of us who don't want to discuss Madge, Nicki Minaj or any of the multiple artists clogging up this forum.

Graycap23 said:

There are 10 plus Madonna threads on this site. Why is that?

And I agree Mike.

Damn.

Dewrede said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Find the Rule that says that,

Maybe you should have done so before putting your Anal Social Studies out there

But you definately have broken a rule

Don't post trolls/ads/spam/get-rich-quick schemes/other junk.

Don't make posts that are inflammatory just to get people riled up. Don't post useless off-topic stuff. Even if a silly, no-purpose post seems harmless and fun, don't be surprised if you get a warning and the message locked/deleted. You might think it's cute, but Moderators who have to wade through tons of posts like this, don't. In general, don't post advertisements. Advertising may be allowed in certain circumstances; ask a moderator privately before posting. If a post is mostly just an ad for another website, it will likely be removed. In general, post if you have something to say. If you want to start a new thread, make it worthwhile. Don't be lazy and give a 1-sentence "what do you think about X?". At least explain your position, why, etc... make it interesting to read; you're more likely to get quality responses.

[Edited 12/7/11 9:27am]

there's a rule that states not to overflow this board with threads regarding the same artist , end of discussion

[Edited 12/7/11 11:35am]

Exactly. Michael Jackson discussions, no matter what they all are about, all go to the MJ thread. There really needs to be uniformity here.

This thread reminds me how people can't be rational when it comes to an artist they are a fan of.

Vendetta1 said:

Dewrede said:

there's a rule that states not to overflow this board with threads regarding the same artist , end of discussion

[Edited 12/7/11 11:35am]

Exactly. Michael Jackson discussions, no matter what they all are about, all go to the MJ thread. There really needs to be uniformity here.

That is all I'm saying..............I don't get it.

OldFriends4Sale said:

errant said:

It is gettting a little bit out of control. Surely this is what leads mods to start sticky threads. Not start MORE threads on the same subject.

out of whose control?

If members want to talk about different periods in an entertainers career, and it's polite sharing and talk, why would a mod not like that?

scroll back Luv4u already posted something on this and it's really not a problem

The problem is when duplicate topics are being posted

Same subject would be: New album out, __ has a new Album out, Did you hear about the new Album out

Wasn't it you that said I should have had 2 seperate threads for Erotica & Bedtime Stories?

the fact is that 10 different topics about Madonna ARE the same topic, no matter what angle they're going for. if this was a Madonna forum, it would be different. it is not.

I don't think I said that you should have two different threads. I don't think I ever said you should have any threads. I just didn't understand lumping 2 distinct eras together.

but that's beside the point. so when Madonna's new album comes out, instead of having 1 sticky for it, are we going to have 10 different threads covering 10 different songs? a thread about this interview, another thread about that interview, another thread about this concert another about that concert? by your definition they are all legitimate separate topics, after all.

when you start a SERIES of threads covering an artist's different eras on a website in a forum not devoted to them, that is flooding the forum with the same topic.

it was understandable and to be congratulated when you did it for Prince over in the P:M&M forum, because this is a site dedicated to the discussion of Prince (although making every single one of them a sticky, however briefly, before people started to complain, was a bit much).

over here, it's just spam. it's the dozens of similar ongoing threads covering MJ, Madonna, Janet, Gaga, Britney, Beyonce, etc., that have killed the M:NP forum over the last couple of years.

you aren't helping. and as a moderator, I think you're supposed to be.

I also wonder why MJ is a sticky topic (which I hate with a passion, because this kind of isolation), and Madonna - no? I personally think it's unfair

I believe that the great trinity can not be separate, Prince has almost the entire site, MJ has a theme, Madonna needs a separate general theme, too.

errant said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

out of whose control?

If members want to talk about different periods in an entertainers career, and it's polite sharing and talk, why would a mod not like that?

scroll back Luv4u already posted something on this and it's really not a problem

The problem is when duplicate topics are being posted

Same subject would be: New album out, __ has a new Album out, Did you hear about the new Album out

Wasn't it you that said I should have had 2 seperate threads for Erotica & Bedtime Stories?

the fact is that 10 different topics about Madonna ARE the same topic, no matter what angle they're going for. if this was a Madonna forum, it would be different. it is not.

I don't think I said that you should have two different threads. I don't think I ever said you should have any threads. I just didn't understand lumping 2 distinct eras together.

but that's beside the point. so when Madonna's new album comes out, instead of having 1 sticky for it, are we going to have 10 different threads covering 10 different songs? a thread about this interview, another thread about that interview, another thread about this concert another about that concert? by your definition they are all legitimate separate topics, after all.

when you start a SERIES of threads covering an artist's different eras on a website in a forum not devoted to them, that is flooding the forum with the same topic.

it was understandable and to be congratulated when you did it for Prince over in the P:M&M forum, because this is a site dedicated to the discussion of Prince (although making every single one of them a sticky, however briefly, before people started to complain, was a bit much).

over here, it's just spam. it's the dozens of similar ongoing threads covering MJ, Madonna, Janet, Gaga, Britney, Beyonce, etc., that have killed the M:NP forum over the last couple of years.

you aren't helping. and as a moderator, I think you're supposed to be.

Well what 10 are there?

1 topic that someone created was more about the fans of Prince MJ & Madonna, not Madonna specific I just think you guys are winers

Yeah you basically asked why did I put them 2 together they should be 2 different threads

There is 1 sticky for the SuperBowl and if there is a thread already active about the album it can be made a sticky

Well this forum is NOT dedicated to Prince MUSIC: NON-PRINCE, the site is

NONE of the music discussed in MUSIC: NON-PRINCE is about PRINCE NONE

Helping what, helping the childish Bitching that goes on, if people are being respectful to each other and enjoying talking about a celeb artist musician, why then should that be a problem?

Who then should we talk about, who is it that you would feel comfortable enough for everyone to talk with? Why don't you start posting topics of people you think we should all talk about.

Please again tell me the 10 thread about Madonna, 2 or 3 that I know of in the last week have already gone the way of forgotten.

You guys are being irrational

The thread is not being flooded with Madonna, you all just don't like her and act like someone is forcing you to read thru,

[img:$uid]http://www.world-enlightenment.com/images/clockwork-orange-theater-scene.gif[/img:$uid]

This is what some folks' responses sound like to me...

errant said:

it's the dozens of similar ongoing threads covering MJ, Madonna, Janet, Gaga, Britney, Beyonce, etc., that have killed the M:NP forum over the last couple of years.

Not necessarily, because they're the topics that get a lot of responses and are brought up often, so they must of interest to some people here. If you go MJJC, the non-Michael Jackson music section is pretty much ignored and is a ghost town. It doesn't really help that threads expire here. The search doesn't always bring up similar threads either.

[Edited 12/7/11 14:32pm]

errant said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

out of whose control?

If members want to talk about different periods in an entertainers career, and it's polite sharing and talk, why would a mod not like that?

scroll back Luv4u already posted something on this and it's really not a problem

The problem is when duplicate topics are being posted

Same subject would be: New album out, __ has a new Album out, Did you hear about the new Album out

Wasn't it you that said I should have had 2 seperate threads for Erotica & Bedtime Stories?

the fact is that 10 different topics about Madonna ARE the same topic, no matter what angle they're going for. if this was a Madonna forum, it would be different. it is not.

I don't think I said that you should have two different threads. I don't think I ever said you should have any threads. I just didn't understand lumping 2 distinct eras together.

but that's beside the point. so when Madonna's new album comes out, instead of having 1 sticky for it, are we going to have 10 different threads covering 10 different songs? a thread about this interview, another thread about that interview, another thread about this concert another about that concert? by your definition they are all legitimate separate topics, after all.

when you start a SERIES of threads covering an artist's different eras on a website in a forum not devoted to them, that is flooding the forum with the same topic.

it was understandable and to be congratulated when you did it for Prince over in the P:M&M forum, because this is a site dedicated to the discussion of Prince (although making every single one of them a sticky, however briefly, before people started to complain, was a bit much).

over here, it's just spam. it's the dozens of similar ongoing threads covering MJ, Madonna, Janet, Gaga, Britney, Beyonce, etc., that have killed the M:NP forum over the last couple of years.

you aren't helping. and as a moderator, I think you're supposed to be.

He is coming off as completely biased.

JoeTyler said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

and she can travel the world and all kinds of producers and photographers want to work with it she sells out concerts world wide U know her and she has no clue u even exist

bitter haters

it's not personal, lol. Dewrede basically HATES pop stars

he only digs songwriters/musicians

Not true at all

I like many artists that didn't write their own songs

F.E i like Elvis , Otis Redding ,Christina Aguilera etc

[Edited 12/7/11 15:25pm]

Graycap23 said:

Vendetta1 said:

Exactly. Michael Jackson discussions, no matter what they all are about, all go to the MJ thread. There really needs to be uniformity here.

That is all I'm saying..............I don't get it.

on your screen there are 9 pages with 40 posts each 360 topics and you say 10 on Madonna is flooding the forum? U guys really are irrational about this. If you don't like her that's fine

and that's just the 9 pages there are more without Madonna

Seriously look at all the music or artist topics. Look at the number of responses and posts: 0 2 10 13 22 37

but this one Let's make a HATE thread! has Two Hundered and Twenty Two posts 222

if it's on topic and people enjoy it I have no problems

Do you think Madonna (OR formerly MJ fans) bitch as much about their idol? started by

This thread is about fans of Prince MJ & Madonna

10 Thread about Madonna??? all on the same topic

let's see

How many Madonna threads can u make or take? started by Graycap23 71 and it just started today

Sticky:Madonna to Perform at The Super Bowl started by luv4u 20

where is Madonna 2009 - 2012 started by OldFriends4Sale 8

the Confessions era 2005-2006 started by OldFriends4Sale 16

Madonna the 2nd SEX era 1992-1996 started by OldFriends4Sale 70

Madonna Prepares Finalized Version of Leaked Track started by Identity 39

as of the 3rd page I still don't have 10

and 1/2 of these will be closed(no longer able to reply) by next year.

Making a Mountain out of a Molehill

Graycap23 said:

go2theMax said:

and yet u started another one ..yours is boring though..I'm outta here

It matches the Subject matter.

And that is why you have a problem

You start a flame thread pretending to care about following the rules, all the while you broke one by creating this thread

and it's really just because you don't like Madonna

Vendetta1 said:

errant said:

the fact is that 10 different topics about Madonna ARE the same topic, no matter what angle they're going for. if this was a Madonna forum, it would be different. it is not.

I don't think I said that you should have two different threads. I don't think I ever said you should have any threads. I just didn't understand lumping 2 distinct eras together.

but that's beside the point. so when Madonna's new album comes out, instead of having 1 sticky for it, are we going to have 10 different threads covering 10 different songs? a thread about this interview, another thread about that interview, another thread about this concert another about that concert? by your definition they are all legitimate separate topics, after all.

when you start a SERIES of threads covering an artist's different eras on a website in a forum not devoted to them, that is flooding the forum with the same topic.

it was understandable and to be congratulated when you did it for Prince over in the P:M&M forum, because this is a site dedicated to the discussion of Prince (although making every single one of them a sticky, however briefly, before people started to complain, was a bit much).

over here, it's just spam. it's the dozens of similar ongoing threads covering MJ, Madonna, Janet, Gaga, Britney, Beyonce, etc., that have killed the M:NP forum over the last couple of years.

you aren't helping. and as a moderator, I think you're supposed to be.

He is coming off as completely biased.

yeah, and Graycaps is biased because this whole his is because it does not like Madonna all the while having broken a rule itself

I'm not controlling anything here, Luv4u has looked it over and doesn't see a problem,

Just peole flaming because they don't like Madonna

Dewrede said:

JoeTyler said:

it's not personal, lol. Dewrede basically HATES pop stars

he only digs songwriters/musicians

Not true at all

I like some artists that didn't write their own songs

F.E i like Elvis , Otis Redding ,Christina Aguilera etc

Really?? Once she raped Imagine I wiped out this artist from my collection.

And she just forgot how to sing ... or her vocal style just very very very spoiled

Vendetta1 said:

errant said:

the fact is that 10 different topics about Madonna ARE the same topic, no matter what angle they're going for. if this was a Madonna forum, it would be different. it is not.

I don't think I said that you should have two different threads. I don't think I ever said you should have any threads. I just didn't understand lumping 2 distinct eras together.

but that's beside the point. so when Madonna's new album comes out, instead of having 1 sticky for it, are we going to have 10 different threads covering 10 different songs? a thread about this interview, another thread about that interview, another thread about this concert another about that concert? by your definition they are all legitimate separate topics, after all.

when you start a SERIES of threads covering an artist's different eras on a website in a forum not devoted to them, that is flooding the forum with the same topic.

it was understandable and to be congratulated when you did it for Prince over in the P:M&M forum, because this is a site dedicated to the discussion of Prince (although making every single one of them a sticky, however briefly, before people started to complain, was a bit much).

over here, it's just spam. it's the dozens of similar ongoing threads covering MJ, Madonna, Janet, Gaga, Britney, Beyonce, etc., that have killed the M:NP forum over the last couple of years.

you aren't helping. and as a moderator, I think you're supposed to be.

He is coming off as completely biased.

Wonderfully said.

Vendetta1 said:

This thread reminds me how people can't be rational when it comes to an artist they are a fan of.

This thread is a fact of how people can't be rational when it comes to an artist they are not a fan of

I don't go trolling around counting how many times Beyonce was brought up if I don't like her, and if I don't like her guess WHAT? I don't click on it

Vendetta1 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I hope this is not another nit picking bitch thread

cause I hope this isn't suggesting that everything is supposed to be posted to your comfort

And please tell me who is making you view any thread you don't like

Someone told me in the Prince Music & More forum basically there were a few too many Prince era threads, lol go figure, in a Prince Music forum... while others were talking about does Prince drink purple cool aid and what does he feet smell like

So many topics we all can create take part in or not

I'm so happy that what other do does not disturb my world on this forum

5 is good enough for me to answer your question

Pretty sad post from a mod.

There is no need for multiple threads on the same artist. I think consideration needs to be made for those of us who don't want to discuss Madge, Nicki Minaj or any of the multiple artists clogging up this forum.

Mod not a Monk

I smell VICTIM

consider those who don't want to discuss Madge, you forcing us to click on the 5-6 Madonna topics and read it waaaa waaaa whine

9+ pages with 40 topics a page non Madonna related

OldFriends4Sale said:

errant said:

the fact is that 10 different topics about Madonna ARE the same topic, no matter what angle they're going for. if this was a Madonna forum, it would be different. it is not.

I don't think I said that you should have two different threads. I don't think I ever said you should have any threads. I just didn't understand lumping 2 distinct eras together.

but that's beside the point. so when Madonna's new album comes out, instead of having 1 sticky for it, are we going to have 10 different threads covering 10 different songs? a thread about this interview, another thread about that interview, another thread about this concert another about that concert? by your definition they are all legitimate separate topics, after all.

when you start a SERIES of threads covering an artist's different eras on a website in a forum not devoted to them, that is flooding the forum with the same topic.

it was understandable and to be congratulated when you did it for Prince over in the P:M&M forum, because this is a site dedicated to the discussion of Prince (although making every single one of them a sticky, however briefly, before people started to complain, was a bit much).

over here, it's just spam. it's the dozens of similar ongoing threads covering MJ, Madonna, Janet, Gaga, Britney, Beyonce, etc., that have killed the M:NP forum over the last couple of years.

you aren't helping. and as a moderator, I think you're supposed to be.

Well what 10 are there?

1 topic that someone created was more about the fans of Prince MJ & Madonna, not Madonna specific I just think you guys are winers

Yeah you basically asked why did I put them 2 together they should be 2 different threads

There is 1 sticky for the SuperBowl and if there is a thread already active about the album it can be made a sticky

Well this forum is NOT dedicated to Prince MUSIC: NON-PRINCE, the site is

NONE of the music discussed in MUSIC: NON-PRINCE is about PRINCE NONE

Helping what, helping the childish Bitching that goes on, if people are being respectful to each other and enjoying talking about a celeb artist musician, why then should that be a problem?

Who then should we talk about, who is it that you would feel comfortable enough for everyone to talk with? Why don't you start posting topics of people you think we should all talk about.

Please again tell me the 10 thread about Madonna, 2 or 3 that I know of in the last week have already gone the way of forgotten.

You guys are being irrational

The thread is not being flooded with Madonna, you all just don't like her and act like someone is forcing you to read thru,

I love Madonna. I'd wager I'm a bigger fan of her than you are and know a lot more about her than you do.

But this is flooding. You're the one being irrational, because half of them are YOUR threads. You are historically a forum-flooder. As I said, in the Prince forum, it was acceptable and to be expected. In the Non-Prince forum, it's just spam. You're a moderator, you're supposed to know better. Moderator... moderate thyself.

[Edited 12/7/11 15:09pm]

I see the org administration has made another mistake.

errant said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well what 10 are there?

1 topic that someone created was more about the fans of Prince MJ & Madonna, not Madonna specific I just think you guys are winers

Yeah you basically asked why did I put them 2 together they should be 2 different threads

There is 1 sticky for the SuperBowl and if there is a thread already active about the album it can be made a sticky

Well this forum is NOT dedicated to Prince MUSIC: NON-PRINCE, the site is

NONE of the music discussed in MUSIC: NON-PRINCE is about PRINCE NONE

Helping what, helping the childish Bitching that goes on, if people are being respectful to each other and enjoying talking about a celeb artist musician, why then should that be a problem?

Who then should we talk about, who is it that you would feel comfortable enough for everyone to talk with? Why don't you start posting topics of people you think we should all talk about.

Please again tell me the 10 thread about Madonna, 2 or 3 that I know of in the last week have already gone the way of forgotten.

You guys are being irrational

The thread is not being flooded with Madonna, you all just don't like her and act like someone is forcing you to read thru,

I love Madonna. I'd wager I'm a bigger fan of her than you are and know a lot more about her than you do.

But this is flooding. You're the one being irrational, because half of them are YOUR threads. You are historically a forum-flooder. As I said, in the Prince forum, it was acceptable and to be accepted. In the Non-Prince forum, it's just spam. You're a moderator, you're supposed to know better. Moderator... moderate thyself.

I don't care if you're Madonna's love child

10(oops there aren't even 10 posts about Madonna)

I posted 3 topics of Madonna

Flooding means when 1 person posts too many topics? No matter what the subject? LOL wrong

I guess if someone takes part in the community effort of discussion but posting topics as well as taking part in others posts that makes them a bad member and a troll lol LOL

Flooding is when the same topic is posted by the same person or multiple persons

You are wrong.

Spam is anything that has nothing to do with the forum that has no place on any part of the org wrong again

You are just wrong all over the place.

lazycrockett said:

I see the org administration has made another mistake.

Yeah by not banning you?

I'm not moderating this at all, letting someone else do it,

But according to a lot of you none of the mods are any good

you should ask for a refund of your membership and find someplace that behaves the way you want

OldFriends4Sale said:

Vendetta1 said:

This thread reminds me how people can't be rational when it comes to an artist they are a fan of.

This thread is a fact of how people can't be rational when it comes to an artist they are not a fan of

I don't go trolling around counting how many times Beyonce was brought up if I don't like her, and if I don't like her guess WHAT? I don't click on it

The presence of topics about Beyonce just is not comparable with the number of those that are created about Janet and Madonna.
Why only MJ has an isolated thread? I doubt that he ever had so much more topcs on the front page ....
Any person annoyed when any artist to occupy the main page, it creates an inconvenience for communication in general.

Why not create a sticky common theme, if the artist is very popular?

OldFriends4Sale said:

errant said:

I love Madonna. I'd wager I'm a bigger fan of her than you are and know a lot more about her than you do.

But this is flooding. You're the one being irrational, because half of them are YOUR threads. You are historically a forum-flooder. As I said, in the Prince forum, it was acceptable and to be accepted. In the Non-Prince forum, it's just spam. You're a moderator, you're supposed to know better. Moderator... moderate thyself.

I don't care if you're Madonna's love child

10(oops there aren't even 10 posts about Madonna)

I posted 3 topics of Madonna

Flooding means when 1 person posts too many topics? No matter what the subject? LOL wrong

I guess if someone takes part in the community effort of discussion but posting topics as well as taking part in others posts that makes them a bad member and a troll lol LOL

Flooding is when the same topic is posted by the same person or multiple persons

You are wrong.

Spam is anything that has nothing to do with the forum that has no place on any part of the org wrong again

You are just wrong all over the place.

So then when does the MJ sticky go away and the site allows this forum to be overrun by threads about him again?

You were invited by the owner of this site to help to clean up these problems. You're contributing to them.

OldFriends4Sale said:

lazycrockett said:

I see the org administration has made another mistake.

Yeah by not banning you?

I'm not moderating this at all, letting someone else do it,

But according to a lot of you none of the mods are any good

you should ask for a refund of your membership and find someplace that behaves the way you want

I think you're fine at moderating most things, except when it comes to your own threads.

You're way better than luv4u. She's the worst ever.