purplethunder3121 said:

^^^ Just as it shouldn't matter what my opinion is!

It's not your opinion that i care about or responded to, don't care about itIt's of little value to me. It was the erroneous fact that you intimated as to why her version was used.

It's wrong on two levels. Her version was not used for the film. It came out after the movie. Two: she was chosen to honor him not joe q public.

Those are the facts and not subject to opinion, whether they be yours or mind.

^^^ Yeah, I know Whitney never sang the theme song to "The Greatest." I never implied that she did. I said the song was the theme song for Muhammed Ali's biographical film "The Greatest," which I saw in 1977, nearly a decade before I ever heard of Whitney Houston. That's when I heard George Benson sing his original version of the song.

purplethunder3121 said:

^^^ Yeah, I know Whitney never sang the theme song to "The Greatest." I never implied that she did. I said the song was the theme song for Muhammed Ali's biographical film "The Greatest," which I saw in 1977, nearly a decade before I ever heard of Whitney Houston. That's when I heard George Benson sing his original version of the song.

Her drugs are starting to take effect and she's getting confused.

vainandy said:

purplethunder3121 said:

^^^ Yeah, I know Whitney never sang the theme song to "The Greatest." I never implied that she did. I said the song was the theme song for Muhammed Ali's biographical film "The Greatest," which I saw in 1977, nearly a decade before I ever heard of Whitney Houston. That's when I heard George Benson sing his original version of the song.

Her drugs are starting to take effect and she's getting confused.

^^^ BTW I have to say Muhammed Ali playing himself in the movie was was one of the biggest egotistical decisions I've seen in the film industry and was unintentionally hilarious! While I respect the man and his story, he can't act his way out of a paper bag and the script was atrocious.

Vainandy,

I have a few questions for you.

Seriously, why does Whitney seem to be at the top of your shit list? . Celine Dion for instance is much worse and way sappier imo. How come you don't seem to dislike her as much but HATE Whitney? lol

Also, is there ANY Whitney Houston song that you actually LIKE? Do you find any of her songs to be danceable or even dare I say funky? What about "How Will I Know", "I Wanna Dance With Somebody", "Queen of the Night", "It's Not Right, But It's Okay", "I'm Your Baby Tonight",etc. Those were all good uptempo jams.

Do you even like her "I'm Every Woman" cover? I think she did a great job with it.

Cinnamon234 said:

Vainandy,

I have a few questions for you.

Seriously, why does Whitney seem to be at the top of your shit list? . Celine Dion for instance is much worse and way sappier imo. How come you don't seem to dislike her as much but HATE Whitney? lol

Also, is there ANY Whitney Houston song that you actually LIKE? Do you find any of her songs to be danceable or even dare I say funky? What about "How Will I Know", "I Wanna Dance With Somebody", "Queen of the Night", "It's Not Right, But It's Okay", "I'm Your Baby Tonight",etc. Those were all good uptempo jams.

Do you even like her "I'm Every Woman" cover? I think she did a great job with it.

Celine Dion is simply a product of what followed Shitney and so is Mariah Carey and countless others. It's because of Shitney that there are so many artists like Celine Dion and Mariah Carey and by the time the 1990s came around, there was two choices on R&B radio...either shit hop or adult contemporary. There was nothing else unless you went underground. Shitney opened the doors for them and paved the way for all those adult contemporary artists to take over.

As for Shitney's songs, I don't like any of them. Not a singe one. As for her uptempo songs, I don't consider them funky. They're watered down full of pop. When I hear them, I see visions in my mind of a little stuck up rich girl in a cheerleading outfit picking petals off a flower asking questions about Biff, the football captain...."If he loves me...if he loves me not".....As for "I'm Every Woman", I see it as just another song from another artist that she ruined.

But to be perfectly honest, if she were to release something tomorrow that was the absolute funkiest thing I ever heard in my life, I probably still wouldn't like it because it was recorded by "her". I wouldn't be able to enjoy if because of the long term damage she's done.

vainandy said:

Cinnamon234 said:

Vainandy,

I have a few questions for you.

Seriously, why does Whitney seem to be at the top of your shit list? . Celine Dion for instance is much worse and way sappier imo. How come you don't seem to dislike her as much but HATE Whitney? lol

Also, is there ANY Whitney Houston song that you actually LIKE? Do you find any of her songs to be danceable or even dare I say funky? What about "How Will I Know", "I Wanna Dance With Somebody", "Queen of the Night", "It's Not Right, But It's Okay", "I'm Your Baby Tonight",etc. Those were all good uptempo jams.

Do you even like her "I'm Every Woman" cover? I think she did a great job with it.

Celine Dion is simply a product of what followed Shitney and so is Mariah Carey and countless others. It's because of Shitney that there are so many artists like Celine Dion and Mariah Carey and by the time the 1990s came around, there was two choices on R&B radio...either shit hop or adult contemporary. There was nothing else unless you went underground. Shitney opened the doors for them and paved the way for all those adult contemporary artists to take over.

As for Shitney's songs, I don't like any of them. Not a singe one. As for her uptempo songs, I don't consider them funky. They're watered down full of pop. When I hear them, I see visions in my mind of a little stuck up rich girl in a cheerleading outfit picking petals off a flower asking questions about Biff, the football captain...."If he loves me...if he loves me not".....As for "I'm Every Woman", I see it as just another song from another artist that she ruined.

But to be perfectly honest, if she were to release something tomorrow that was the absolute funkiest thing I ever heard in my life, I probably still wouldn't like it because it was recorded by "her". I wouldn't be able to enjoy if because of the long term damage she's done.

Wow. You remind me of this crazy Mary J. Blidge fan on youtube who dedicated his/her videos to shiting on 'The Voice' aka Whitney. I think it's sad that somebody can hate someone they've never even met. I think your jealous she's more successful than Prince will ever be.

Terrib3Towel said:

vainandy said:

Celine Dion is simply a product of what followed Shitney and so is Mariah Carey and countless others. It's because of Shitney that there are so many artists like Celine Dion and Mariah Carey and by the time the 1990s came around, there was two choices on R&B radio...either shit hop or adult contemporary. There was nothing else unless you went underground. Shitney opened the doors for them and paved the way for all those adult contemporary artists to take over.

As for Shitney's songs, I don't like any of them. Not a singe one. As for her uptempo songs, I don't consider them funky. They're watered down full of pop. When I hear them, I see visions in my mind of a little stuck up rich girl in a cheerleading outfit picking petals off a flower asking questions about Biff, the football captain...."If he loves me...if he loves me not".....As for "I'm Every Woman", I see it as just another song from another artist that she ruined.

But to be perfectly honest, if she were to release something tomorrow that was the absolute funkiest thing I ever heard in my life, I probably still wouldn't like it because it was recorded by "her". I wouldn't be able to enjoy if because of the long term damage she's done.

Wow. You remind me of this crazy Mary J. Blidge fan on youtube who dedicated his/her videos to shiting on 'The Voice' aka Whitney. I think it's sad that somebody can hate someone they've never even met. I think your jealous she's more successful than Prince will ever be.

I could care less about Prince's success. Hell, I liked him better before "Purple Rain" back when he was mainly known in the R&B world only. Massive success and awards mean absolutely nothing to me. Most of my favorite artists have such as Rick James, Cameo, Lakeside, Con Funk Shun, etc. have rarely been further than R&B radio.

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Terrib3Towel said:

vainandy said:

Celine Dion is simply a product of what followed Shitney and so is Mariah Carey and countless others. It's because of Shitney that there are so many artists like Celine Dion and Mariah Carey and by the time the 1990s came around, there was two choices on R&B radio...either shit hop or adult contemporary. There was nothing else unless you went underground. Shitney opened the doors for them and paved the way for all those adult contemporary artists to take over.

As for Shitney's songs, I don't like any of them. Not a singe one. As for her uptempo songs, I don't consider them funky. They're watered down full of pop. When I hear them, I see visions in my mind of a little stuck up rich girl in a cheerleading outfit picking petals off a flower asking questions about Biff, the football captain...."If he loves me...if he loves me not".....As for "I'm Every Woman", I see it as just another song from another artist that she ruined.

But to be perfectly honest, if she were to release something tomorrow that was the absolute funkiest thing I ever heard in my life, I probably still wouldn't like it because it was recorded by "her". I wouldn't be able to enjoy if because of the long term damage she's done.

Wow. You remind me of this crazy Mary J. Blidge fan on youtube who dedicated his/her videos to shiting on 'The Voice' aka Whitney. I think it's sad that somebody can hate someone they've never even met. I think your jealous she's more successful than Prince will ever be.

Oh GTFO of here with THAT bullshit!

Prince is in the American Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, the first artist ever to get voted straight in within the first day of eligibility (25 years after the release of his debut album). WTF are you talking about in saying that Whitney is more successful than Prince?

And BTW, Michael is in that same Hall Of Fame as a solo artist & a member of The Jacksons. Even Madonna is in that same Hall Of Fame. So where the hell is Whitney?!? I rest my case.

TonyVanDam said:

Oh GTFO of here with THAT bullshit!

Prince is in the American Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, the first artist ever to get voted straight in within the first day of eligibility (25 years after the release of his debut album). WTF are you talking about in saying that Whitney is more successful than Prince?

And BTW, Michael is in that same Hall Of Fame as a solo artist & a member of The Jacksons. Even Madonna is in that same Hall Of Fame. So where the hell is Whitney?!? I rest my case.

Does being in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame = success or impact? Or both?

Saying that Whitney Houston is more successful than Prince isn't a false statement though. She is, but in terms of what, is the question.

TonyVanDam said:

Terrib3Towel said:

Wow. You remind me of this crazy Mary J. Blidge fan on youtube who dedicated his/her videos to shiting on 'The Voice' aka Whitney. I think it's sad that somebody can hate someone they've never even met. I think your jealous she's more successful than Prince will ever be.

Oh GTFO of here with THAT bullshit!

Prince is in the American Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, the first artist ever to get voted straight in within the first day of eligibility (25 years after the release of his debut album). WTF are you talking about in saying that Whitney is more successful than Prince?

And BTW, Michael is in that same Hall Of Fame as a solo artist & a member of The Jacksons. Even Madonna is in that same Hall Of Fame. So where the hell is Whitney?!? I rest my case.

But she is more sucessful than Prince! Saying that doesn't diminish anything about him. And when since being ovted into the HOF = being more sucessful. There are tons in there who weren't huge successes. I'm sure i could whip up several statis of Whitney to prove the point but I don't need to.

BTW, HOF doesn't really recognize 'singers' per se. There are many who should be in there and aren't so that is definitely not a measure.

Unholyalliance said:

TonyVanDam said:

Oh GTFO of here with THAT bullshit!

Prince is in the American Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, the first artist ever to get voted straight in within the first day of eligibility (25 years after the release of his debut album). WTF are you talking about in saying that Whitney is more successful than Prince?

And BTW, Michael is in that same Hall Of Fame as a solo artist & a member of The Jacksons. Even Madonna is in that same Hall Of Fame. So where the hell is Whitney?!? I rest my case.

Does being in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame = success or impact? Or both?

Saying that Whitney Houston is more successful than Prince isn't a false statement though. She is, but in terms of what, is the question.

Whitney is just more commercially successful as in more awards, chart hits etc... "commercial success" doesnt really mean anything being that all that stuff is mostly driven by popularity. That doesnt necessarily mean she had more of an impact on music. Prince definitly has had more impact on music but Whitney has had more commercial success and is influential. I personally feel Prince has been way more influential even though they both are.

RHOF well its not as high of an honor as some think... if the guy who runs the whole chabang is the one calling the shots and says who goes in and who doesnt Most people who are in there deserve to be in there though.

If they are willing to induct Madonna in with the likes of Stevie Wonder, Jimi Hendrix, Marvin Gaye, Sam Cooke etc than they will allow anyone to get in WHO is massively globally popular but then at the same time Prince isnt and he still was inducted

The system of awards and how they are given have completely change now where its all based on popularity and not on who exactly deserves it or impacted music which is why I dont pay attention to awards etc anymore.

^Good point. The HOF, reading some articles about all the politic that goes into the selection and the ultimate power that that guy has sort of waters it down for me. Still can't fathom why Donna Summer and Dionne Warwick haven't been voted in yet.

By the way, Whitney was eligible in 2010 and if you count her recording in 1983, then 2008.

Ehhh I don't know about Prince having a bigger impact than Whitney. I've heard just as many singers if not more say they looked up to Whitney than Prince. If you go to Kareoke, you will hear more Whitney than Prince, if you watch American idol you will hear more Whitney than Prince. A lot of people aspiring to be singers look up to Whitney. Now as far as "the sound" then definitely Prince has the advantage. You can hear Prince's music in a lot of singers down the line but at the same time, there are a lot of singers who said they grew up wanting to be Whitney Houston. So maybe there are even, but I wouldn't be able to say with confidence that Prince had the bigger impact.

Almost all these legends of the 08 and 90s have been more commercially successful that prince Whitney george michael,michael jackson ..Janet jackson.. Madonna ..Mariah but that doesnt mean that they are better or have had a bigger impact than prince and random Rock and roll HOF means nothing if madonna is in .. IMO if they mention madonna Prince and michael Jackson they should mention george michael to because his one of the biggest and best to ever do it

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jsluva said:

Ehhh I don't know about Prince having a bigger impact than Whitney. I've heard just as many singers if not more say they looked up to Whitney than Prince. If you go to Kareoke, you will hear more Whitney than Prince, if you watch American idol you will hear more Whitney than Prince. A lot of people aspiring to be singers look up to Whitney. Now as far as "the sound" then definitely Prince has the advantage. You can hear Prince's music in a lot of singers down the line but at the same time, there are a lot of singers who said they grew up wanting to be Whitney Houston. So maybe there are even, but I wouldn't be able to say with confidence that Prince had the bigger impact.

You basically said the same thing I said just differently. Prince has had a far more greater impact on MUSIC obviously. He also is more influential from a music stand point. However, Whitney is more popular and is more influential from a singer standpoint. Her MUSIC is more popular as well.

jsluva said:

Ehhh I don't know about Prince having a bigger impact than Whitney. I've heard just as many singers if not more say they looked up to Whitney than Prince. If you go to Kareoke, you will hear more Whitney than Prince, if you watch American idol you will hear more Whitney than Prince. A lot of people aspiring to be singers look up to Whitney. Now as far as "the sound" then definitely Prince has the advantage. You can hear Prince's music in a lot of singers down the line but at the same time, there are a lot of singers who said they grew up wanting to be Whitney Houston. So maybe there are even, but I wouldn't be able to say with confidence that Prince had the bigger impact.

You talk about karaoke and the "American Idiot" show as if they are good things. Two more reasons not to like her.

TonyVanDam said:

Terrib3Towel said:

Wow. You remind me of this crazy Mary J. Blidge fan on youtube who dedicated his/her videos to shiting on 'The Voice' aka Whitney. I think it's sad that somebody can hate someone they've never even met. I think your jealous she's more successful than Prince will ever be.

Oh GTFO of here with THAT bullshit!

Prince is in the American Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, the first artist ever to get voted straight in within the first day of eligibility (25 years after the release of his debut album). WTF are you talking about in saying that Whitney is more successful than Prince?

And BTW, Michael is in that same Hall Of Fame as a solo artist & a member of The Jacksons. Even Madonna is in that same Hall Of Fame. So where the hell is Whitney?!? I rest my case.

She hasn't got a funky bone in her body let alone a rock one. She's totally rhythmless and her influence has almost undone all the progress made from the beginning of the rock and roll era through the 1980s. Her influence has created a new totally rhythmless generation in the mainstream and has sent radio back to the days when everything was slow and dull. The last place she needs to be is in The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The only rock she knows goes in a glass pipe.

All you motherfuckers (you too Andy) should either jack off or fuck each other because all y'all fucking ridiculous.

Timmy84 said:

All you motherfuckers (you too Andy) should either jack off or fuck each other because all y'all fucking ridiculous.

Fine with me. I love circle jerks.

vainandy said:

She hasn't got a funky bone in her body let alone a rock one. She's totally rhythmless and her influence has almost undone all the progress made from the beginning of the rock and roll era through the 1980s. Her influence has created a new totally rhythmless generation in the mainstream and has sent radio back to the days when everything was slow and dull. The last place she needs to be is in The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The only rock she knows goes in a glass pipe.

ooooohhhh whhheeee

Timmy84 said:

All you motherfuckers (you too Andy) should either jack off or fuck each other because all y'all fucking ridiculous.

As The Iron Sheik would say, "F*** you, I'm talking!".

Terrib3Towel said:

vainandy said:

Celine Dion is simply a product of what followed Shitney and so is Mariah Carey and countless others. It's because of Shitney that there are so many artists like Celine Dion and Mariah Carey and by the time the 1990s came around, there was two choices on R&B radio...either shit hop or adult contemporary. There was nothing else unless you went underground. Shitney opened the doors for them and paved the way for all those adult contemporary artists to take over.

As for Shitney's songs, I don't like any of them. Not a singe one. As for her uptempo songs, I don't consider them funky. They're watered down full of pop. When I hear them, I see visions in my mind of a little stuck up rich girl in a cheerleading outfit picking petals off a flower asking questions about Biff, the football captain...."If he loves me...if he loves me not".....As for "I'm Every Woman", I see it as just another song from another artist that she ruined.

But to be perfectly honest, if she were to release something tomorrow that was the absolute funkiest thing I ever heard in my life, I probably still wouldn't like it because it was recorded by "her". I wouldn't be able to enjoy if because of the long term damage she's done.

Wow. You remind me of this crazy Mary J. Blidge fan on youtube who dedicated his/her videos to shiting on 'The Voice' aka Whitney. I think it's sad that somebody can hate someone they've never even met. I think your jealous she's more successful than Prince will ever be.

Vainandy hates Whitney because he thinks her success contributed to the death of Funk AND because he felt she was a goody two shoes. He says it all the time

I don't know why the Whitney Houston career to present day thread was removed but this seems the only place to put this info until a new thread is openned. Someone didn't believe me in the other thread when i said she will be starring in several upcoming movies and said that she needs to take what she cang et and do soap operas or tv movies like Brandy.

To that skeptical poster who has no idea of Whtiney's stellar career in film or of her production house, here is confirmation from her own daughter a few minutes ago.

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@salut235 def acting AND producing you guys will love it! #NBL!

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@REALbkBrown Hi BK, can you tell us more about Sparkle? PLZ! Is ur mom acting or producing? PPPLLLLZZZZZZZZZZZZZ answer.. lol

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She is also unofficially set to star in Terry McMillan's 'Getting To Happy' the waiting to exhale sequel next year.

come on guys...STOP posting on this tread! discussion is over

MODERATOR: kill this thread,please

Entertainer, REALLY? You're going to do this AGAIN?

What is the problem> a poster in the whitney career thread made comments about hollywood not knocking down her door and saying she should do tv.

I responded with the confirmation from her daugter. I would have put it in that other thread but it was deleted.

Do you care to open up a new thread where this info should go? if not, why bother commenting and coming to the thread?

I don't get the complainers who want the thread to die but keep posting! oxymoron!