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Reply #120 posted 02/09/10 9:51am

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bboy87 said:


nope it's the official one


The coroner said it would be kept secret permanently.

At first it says he has "all natural teeth" then later on it lists all the work he had done on them and that he had some removed.

Nowhere does the report talk about the burn scars on his scalp.

At one stage it says he has brown hair (?!) then it says black.

It says he is "black" not "African American"

It says he was identified via drivers license...what, no family member could identify him?!

It says Murray found him, pulled him to the floor, started CPR and called 911. We all know from the phonecall he began CPR on the bed then called 911.

It mentions his vitiligo but not his lupus??

Sometimes he's "Jackson, Michael", other times he is "Jackson, Michael Joseph". His middle name was "Joe".

Michael couldn't dance if he had all those lung issues.
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I think his middle name is Joseph. I think in the Mexican deposition, for example, when they ask him his name, he says Michael Joseph.
Here are few documents where it also says Michael Joseph.


Here´s Prince´s birth certificate. Notice that his name is listed as Michael Joseph Jackson jr.


BTW, I wanted to ask you, is it possible in the US to have different names on different personal documents? It is not possible over here, but with Mike, I think I´ve seen it several times, so I am wondering if it´s possible or if those documents were fake.




They just said on the TV that the Murray case is supposed to start in April? Isn´t that a bit too late?
sad
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #121 posted 02/09/10 10:40am

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of all the songs mike did in recent years , do you think there propper and he is just worried people wont like it , or did he do half ass jobs like a mad scientist, with all his insomania.
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Reply #122 posted 02/09/10 12:51pm

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Having read some of the autopsy, I skimmed through it because it felt like an intrusion, I was surprised to read MJ natural hair, although sparse was brown as opposed to black. I've always noticed that Marlon had a reddish, brown tint to his hair(even in the J5 cartoons his hair is depicted has reddish) however MJ hair always seem black to me.
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Reply #123 posted 02/09/10 1:33pm

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #124 posted 02/09/10 1:35pm

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bboy87 said:

this is what a replica should look like!





re-release these biggrin

is that urs? it's hot
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Reply #125 posted 02/09/10 1:36pm

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WaterInYourBath said:

COMPUTERBLUE1984 said:

It was sad reading about MJ in this fashion (the autopsy report).

What will really get people riled up is that Dr. Death is being charged with manslaughter and it is a 4 year prison sentence!

Are there any pictures anywhere in that report? I'm sadly interested in looking through it, as long as there are no photographs.

61 autopsy pictures....Geez. I'm feeling serious anxiety over that. I have a bad feeling one is going to pop up in front of me somewhere. cry

i know i hope those pics never see the light of day sad
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Reply #126 posted 02/09/10 1:43pm

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His hair look kinda brown-ish here... hmmm
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Reply #127 posted 02/09/10 2:48pm

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...ooks_more/

Autopsy: Jackson had vitiligo, wore wig
Singer weighed 136 pounds at death, had tattoos near brows, lips

--Jackson had the skin pigmentation disorder vitiligo, with white patches particularly on his chest, abdomen, face and arms.

*****

this bit from the article is interesting. if his penis had been affected by the vitiligo, wouldn't the autopsy have mentioned it?
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Reply #128 posted 02/09/10 2:50pm

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35317047/ns/entertainment-arts_books_more/

Autopsy: Jackson had vitiligo, wore wig
Singer weighed 136 pounds at death, had tattoos near brows, lips

--Jackson had the skin pigmentation disorder vitiligo, with white patches particularly on his chest, abdomen, face and arms.

*****

this bit from the article is interesting. if his penis had been affected by the vitiligo, wouldn't the autopsy have mentioned it?


Yeah. Sounds like he still had big brown pigmentation below his abdomen.
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Reply #129 posted 02/09/10 3:26pm

kibbles

Timmy84 said:

kibbles said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35317047/ns/entertainment-arts_books_more/

Autopsy: Jackson had vitiligo, wore wig
Singer weighed 136 pounds at death, had tattoos near brows, lips

--Jackson had the skin pigmentation disorder vitiligo, with white patches particularly on his chest, abdomen, face and arms.

*****

this bit from the article is interesting. if his penis had been affected by the vitiligo, wouldn't the autopsy have mentioned it?


Yeah. Sounds like he still had big brown pigmentation below his abdomen.


i'll bet no one in the press, and certainly not the mj-haters, will even consider that. sad
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Reply #130 posted 02/09/10 3:35pm

Timmy84

kibbles said:

Timmy84 said:



Yeah. Sounds like he still had big brown pigmentation below his abdomen.


i'll bet no one in the press, and certainly not the mj-haters, will even consider that. sad


Hmm, probably not. But I'm kinda wondering why you claim in the other thread that MJ mentioned he had a blotch around his penis which I don't think came from him. Remember when there was supposed to be "proof" that MJ had "depigmentation" in his penis, it could've been a big mole.
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Reply #131 posted 02/09/10 4:03pm

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Reply #132 posted 02/09/10 4:50pm

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‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #133 posted 02/09/10 5:10pm

kibbles

Timmy84 said:

kibbles said:



i'll bet no one in the press, and certainly not the mj-haters, will even consider that. sad


Hmm, probably not. But I'm kinda wondering why you claim in the other thread that MJ mentioned he had a blotch around his penis which I don't think came from him. Remember when there was supposed to be "proof" that MJ had "depigmentation" in his penis, it could've been a big mole.


you're confusing me with someone else. i never claimed that.
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Reply #134 posted 02/09/10 5:16pm

Timmy84

kibbles said:

Timmy84 said:



Hmm, probably not. But I'm kinda wondering why you claim in the other thread that MJ mentioned he had a blotch around his penis which I don't think came from him. Remember when there was supposed to be "proof" that MJ had "depigmentation" in his penis, it could've been a big mole.


you're confusing me with someone else. i never claimed that.


You said Michael said it. lol
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Reply #135 posted 02/09/10 5:39pm

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Timmy84 said:

kibbles said:



you're confusing me with someone else. i never claimed that.


You said Michael said it. lol


again, i didn't mention the word blotch or that mj said he had one. i went to the other thread. i never said that.

on edit: this is what i did say. the autopsy pointed out the body parts where the vitiligo was evident. does that mean that his penis *didn't* show evidence of vitiligo, like he said in his interview with diane sawyer?

so i'm saying mj said he DIDN'T have any evidence of vitiligo on his penis, and since the autopsy identified the body parts which did, and they never mentioned his penis, then mj must have been telling truth.

see?
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Reply #136 posted 02/09/10 5:52pm

Timmy84

kibbles said:

Timmy84 said:



You said Michael said it. lol


again, i didn't mention the word blotch or that mj said he had one. i went to the other thread. i never said that.

on edit: this is what i did say. the autopsy pointed out the body parts where the vitiligo was evident. does that mean that his penis *didn't* show evidence of vitiligo, like he said in his interview with diane sawyer?

so i'm saying mj said he DIDN'T have any evidence of vitiligo on his penis, and since the autopsy identified the body parts which did, and they never mentioned his penis, then mj must have been telling truth.

see?
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Well excuuuuuse me. lol

I think it was the wording but I got cha. wink
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Reply #137 posted 02/09/10 7:29pm

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Michael Jackson Was Very Thin, Sickly Before Death, Autopsy Finds

At the time of his death, Jackson was suffering from multiple ailments and using half a dozen medications.

By MTV News staff

Following the filing Monday of an involuntary-manslaughter charge against Conrad Murray in connection with the death of Michael Jackson, the Los Angeles County Coroner's office released its full autopsy report on the King of Pop, according to multiple reports.

The coroner concluded that Jackson died of "acute propofol intoxication" after Murray administered a dose of the powerful anesthetic sufficient for "major surgery." Murray was using the drug to ease Jackson's insomnia, but an expert cited in the autopsy said there were no reports about the use of propofol in insomnia relief. At no point was recommended equipment — from a controlled infusion pump for intravenous administration to monitoring machines — present in Jackson's home when Murray gave the singer the tranquilizer.

The report also contained detailed information about the state of Jackson's body after his death at age 50. At the time of the autopsy, he weighed 136 pounds, was measured at 5-foot-9 in length and was described as "extremely underweight for his frame."

White patches of skin, the result of a pigmentation disorder called vitiligo, were present on his body, particularly his chest, abdomen, face and arms. The autopsy noted "frontal balding" on Jackson's head and a bandage on the tip of his nose. He had dark tattoos close to each eyebrow and one pink tattoo close to his lips. His body was covered with small scars on his nose, knee, shoulder, neck and wrists.

The report concluded that at the time of his death, Jackson was suffering from "chronic lung inflammation, respiratory bronchiolitis, diffuse congestion and patchy hemorrhage of right and left lungs." In addition to propofol, the autopsy discovered Jackson's blood contained traces of lidocaine, diazepam, nordiazepam, lorazepam, midazolam and ephedrine.

During an arraignment hearing Monday, Murray pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter. If convicted, he faces up to four years in prison.

http://www.mtv.com/news/a...um=twitter
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Reply #138 posted 02/09/10 8:03pm

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I just got up to page 22 of the report, and will finish the rest later I guess. Unless you just don't want to read about his personal organs, it really isn't that bad. Except for a few minor issues, his body was darn-near perfect, and THAT'S upsetting. mad
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Reply #139 posted 02/09/10 8:05pm

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So let's get this straight....
Michael Jackson helped that little jerk Gavin and his scuzzy family out, and in return, got hand-cuffed, faced decades in jail, setup on a bogus trial that would have killed anyone else, tortured wondered if he would see his family ever again...

Now a few years later..a doctor who took an oath to help their patients, harms them (with or without intent he still harmed him), killed him, doesn't get hand-cuffed, and only faces 4 years (which he won't do all of it)

Our system is CLEARLY fucked up.
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Reply #140 posted 02/09/10 8:11pm

Timmy84

Vanilli said:

So let's get this straight....
Michael Jackson helped that little jerk Gavin and his scuzzy family out, and in return, got hand-cuffed, faced decades in jail, setup on a bogus trial that would have killed anyone else, tortured wondered if he would see his family ever again...

Now a few years later..a doctor who took an oath to help their patients, harms them (with or without intent he still harmed him), killed him, doesn't get hand-cuffed, and only faces 4 years (which he won't do all of it)

Our system is CLEARLY fucked up.


Pretty much.
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Reply #141 posted 02/09/10 9:50pm

motownlover

what was wrong with mike's lungs? he didnt seemed botherd on video
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Reply #142 posted 02/09/10 10:02pm

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #143 posted 02/09/10 10:46pm

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motownlover said:

what was wrong with mike's lungs? he didnt seemed botherd on video


there were hours and hours of footage left out. of course you'll never see those type of things
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Reply #144 posted 02/10/10 1:09am

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Songs that were rehearsed/run through but weren't included in the movie
Off The Wall
Rock With You
Don't Stop Til You Get Enough
Dangerous
Will You Be There
Dirty Diana
Stranger In Moscow
We Are The World


and it seems they may have worked on Heartbreak Hotel too eek
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Reply #145 posted 02/10/10 1:21am

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back when the Thriller demos leaked, I made "album cover" for them

I made a new one, I kinda like it

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Reply #146 posted 02/10/10 3:52am

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whatsgoingon said:

Having read some of the autopsy, I skimmed through it because it felt like an intrusion, I was surprised to read MJ natural hair, although sparse was brown as opposed to black. I've always noticed that Marlon had a reddish, brown tint to his hair(even in the J5 cartoons his hair is depicted has reddish) however MJ hair always seem black to me.


You can clearly tell Mike's hair is nothing but black.

I'm fully convinced that report is fake.
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Reply #147 posted 02/10/10 6:33am

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Timmy84 said:

Michael Jackson Was Very Thin, Sickly Before Death, Autopsy Finds

At the time of his death, Jackson was suffering from multiple ailments and using half a dozen medications.

By MTV News staff

Following the filing Monday of an involuntary-manslaughter charge against Conrad Murray in connection with the death of Michael Jackson, the Los Angeles County Coroner's office released its full autopsy report on the King of Pop, according to multiple reports.

The coroner concluded that Jackson died of "acute propofol intoxication" after Murray administered a dose of the powerful anesthetic sufficient for "major surgery." Murray was using the drug to ease Jackson's insomnia, but an expert cited in the autopsy said there were no reports about the use of propofol in insomnia relief. At no point was recommended equipment — from a controlled infusion pump for intravenous administration to monitoring machines — present in Jackson's home when Murray gave the singer the tranquilizer.

The report also contained detailed information about the state of Jackson's body after his death at age 50. At the time of the autopsy, he weighed 136 pounds, was measured at 5-foot-9 in length and was described as "extremely underweight for his frame."

White patches of skin, the result of a pigmentation disorder called vitiligo, were present on his body, particularly his chest, abdomen, face and arms. The autopsy noted "frontal balding" on Jackson's head and a bandage on the tip of his nose. He had dark tattoos close to each eyebrow and one pink tattoo close to his lips. His body was covered with small scars on his nose, knee, shoulder, neck and wrists.

The report concluded that at the time of his death, Jackson was suffering from "chronic lung inflammation, respiratory bronchiolitis, diffuse congestion and patchy hemorrhage of right and left lungs." In addition to propofol, the autopsy discovered Jackson's blood contained traces of lidocaine, diazepam, nordiazepam, lorazepam, midazolam and ephedrine.

During an arraignment hearing Monday, Murray pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter. If convicted, he faces up to four years in prison.

http://www.mtv.com/news/a...um=twitter
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Wow.....Mj had some issues.
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Reply #148 posted 02/10/10 7:46am

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bboy87 said:

Songs that were rehearsed/run through but weren't included in the movie
Off The Wall
Rock With You
Don't Stop Til You Get Enough
Dangerous
Will You Be There
Dirty Diana
Stranger In Moscow
We Are The World


and it seems they may have worked on Heartbreak Hotel too eek

Really? Heartbreak Hotel?
yea, i know...
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Reply #149 posted 02/10/10 9:15am

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purplesweat said:

whatsgoingon said:

Having read some of the autopsy, I skimmed through it because it felt like an intrusion, I was surprised to read MJ natural hair, although sparse was brown as opposed to black. I've always noticed that Marlon had a reddish, brown tint to his hair(even in the J5 cartoons his hair is depicted has reddish) however MJ hair always seem black to me.


You can clearly tell Mike's hair is nothing but black.

I'm fully convinced that report is fake.

I am not sure if anyone would bother putting together such a thing. lol But who knows. Anything is possible in today´s world. I also thought some of the things were odd like the teeth and you mentioned some other things earlier. I don´t know. I read most of the things and it makes me sick to my stomach reading about how much his brain weighed. sad Can´t imaging someone took it out. It´s just terrible.

Weirdly enough, I even felt sorry for Murray as he walked in and the fans shouted "murderer". I don´t get it, but I still want him to pay for killing Mike. I wish I could erase it all after 25. June.
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