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Printablepurplesweat said: whatsgoingon said: Having read some of the autopsy, I skimmed through it because it felt like an intrusion, I was surprised to read MJ natural hair, although sparse was brown as opposed to black. I've always noticed that Marlon had a reddish, brown tint to his hair(even in the J5 cartoons his hair is depicted has reddish) however MJ hair always seem black to me.
You can clearly tell Mike's hair is nothing but black. I'm fully convinced that report is fake. he didn't have time to touch up his dye job before he got murdered.  | |
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DesireeNevermind said: purplesweat said: You can clearly tell Mike's hair is nothing but black. I'm fully convinced that report is fake. he didn't have time to touch up his dye job before he got murdered. Mikes hair could have been dark brown (which I'm sure it was) My hair looks black, until I stand in the sun and you can see that it's a dark brown. I doubt someone would put together 51 pages of false information in such detail. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: purplesweat said: You can clearly tell Mike's hair is nothing but black. I'm fully convinced that report is fake. he didn't have time to touch up his dye job before he got murdered. U think he was murdered or an accident? | |
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Graycap23 said: DesireeNevermind said: he didn't have time to touch up his dye job before he got murdered. U think he was murdered or an accident? murdered!!!!! 
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DesireeNevermind said: Graycap23 said: U think he was murdered or an accident? murdered!!!!!
and the money has been pouring in ever since. It certainly appears that way. | |
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Graycap23 said: DesireeNevermind said: murdered!!!!!
and the money has been pouring in ever since. It certainly appears that way. Also consider that this guy (Murray) has been able to live his life pretty much uninterrupted. Even when his office got raided (if you can call it that) his staff were able to remove items. Meanwhile that motivational speaker who had clients die at his sweat lodge got shackled within days! | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: DesireeNevermind said: he didn't have time to touch up his dye job before he got murdered. Mikes hair could have been dark brown (which I'm sure it was) My hair looks black, until I stand in the sun and you can see that it's a dark brown. I doubt someone would put together 51 pages of false information in such detail. Yeah I doubt it's fake. I guess Michael had a good dye job. Plus if someone thinks it's fake just based on his hair being brown, then you might as well say he didn't have vitiligo. But it's obvious he DID have vitiligo (and his hair was real short). And his wigs were black lol | |
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Timmy84 said: ViintageJunkiie said: Mikes hair could have been dark brown (which I'm sure it was) My hair looks black, until I stand in the sun and you can see that it's a dark brown. I doubt someone would put together 51 pages of false information in such detail. Yeah I doubt it's fake. I guess Michael had a good dye job. Plus if someone thinks it's fake just based on his hair being brown, then you might as well say he didn't have vitiligo. But it's obvious he DID have vitiligo (and his hair was real short). And his wigs were black lol I doubt the report is fake base on the fact that he had brown hair instead of black, I am just surprise because the general thought was that his natural hair was black. The report is too technical for it to be made up, unless it was made up by another pathologist. | |
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whatsgoingon said: Timmy84 said: Yeah I doubt it's fake. I guess Michael had a good dye job. Plus if someone thinks it's fake just based on his hair being brown, then you might as well say he didn't have vitiligo. But it's obvious he DID have vitiligo (and his hair was real short). And his wigs were black lol I doubt the report is fake base on the fact that he had brown hair instead of black, I am just surprise because the general thought was that his natural hair was black. The report is too technical for it to be made up, unless it was made up by another pathologist. Right. | |
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The 51 page report is not fake. It's clear that it's sadly authentic.
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Read the first few pages of the report so far. Very sad.
Not sure I want to read the rest. TMI, I think. I mean, who needs to know that there was a "closed bottle of urine" by the foot of the bed? What, MJ didn't wanna get up to go to the bathroom? |
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moderatorSomeone mentioned something about his having lupus and that not being noted in the autopsy report. Lupus is a very serious disease, and if he in fact had it, that would most definitely been outlined in the autopsy report. I never heard any reports of MJ having lupus. I'm not saying that he did not, but lupus affects females more than males. | |
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whatsgoingon said: Timmy84 said: Yeah I doubt it's fake. I guess Michael had a good dye job. Plus if someone thinks it's fake just based on his hair being brown, then you might as well say he didn't have vitiligo. But it's obvious he DID have vitiligo (and his hair was real short). And his wigs were black lol I doubt the report is fake base on the fact that he had brown hair instead of black, I am just surprise because the general thought was that his natural hair was black. The report is too technical for it to be made up, unless it was made up by another pathologist. They could've very well listed his race as Black When Michael surrendered to the police back in 2003, it listed his race as Black, not African American. some areas do that My mom was born in '53 and her race listed on her birth certificate is Negro "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Timmy84 said: whatsgoingon said: I doubt the report is fake base on the fact that he had brown hair instead of black, I am just surprise because the general thought was that his natural hair was black. The report is too technical for it to be made up, unless it was made up by another pathologist. Right. 
contrary to belief, black folks actually have brown hair, it's just really dark 
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: Right.
contrary to belief, black folks actually have brown hair, it's just really dark
Thanks for those photos, I definitely see dark brown hair. | |
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purplesweat said: whatsgoingon said: Having read some of the autopsy, I skimmed through it because it felt like an intrusion, I was surprised to read MJ natural hair, although sparse was brown as opposed to black. I've always noticed that Marlon had a reddish, brown tint to his hair(even in the J5 cartoons his hair is depicted has reddish) however MJ hair always seem black to me.
You can clearly tell Mike's hair is nothing but black. I'm fully convinced that report is fake. sometimes black hair is classified as brown. i see it all the time. people will say black hair is brunette | |
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cdcgold said: purplesweat said: You can clearly tell Mike's hair is nothing but black. I'm fully convinced that report is fake. sometimes black hair is classified as brown. i see it all the time. people will say black hair is brunette I think technically our hair is brown even though many of us call it black. But as you can see in some of his '70s photos there is a dark brown texture. | |
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What up MJ heads....Check out an excerpt from my VIBE blog commentary on the cool and at times hypocritical comeback of the King of Pop...Michael Jackson...As usual, don't be afraid to leave comments on the blog...I want to know what the real MJ fans think...Peace....
Murphy’s Law: Dig U Better Dead In life there are three inevitables: Death, taxes and Michael Jackson Since his tragic passing on June 25, 2009, the Gloved One has been stuntin’ something hard from his record-breaking return to Billboard (Last summer, MJ held nine of the top 10 spots on SoundScan album charts.) to the global box office takeover of the concert documentary This Is It (that’s $259,315,980). If that wasn’t enough, MJ currently boast the #1 selling DVD in the country as This Is It has pushed more than 1.2 million copies, a first week sales record for a music film. Show off. With seemingly every award breaking its neck to serve tribute to the King of Pop, the latest being the Grammy’s rather plastic MJ commendation—Celine Dion …really???—you almost expect the pedigreed canines at the upcoming Westminster Kennel Dog Show to trot out to the sounds of “Beat It” while wearing red, spiked, zippered leather jackets. Hey, you read it here first. On the surface, such posthumous adulation is as shocking as For The Love Of Ray J. Elvis, John Lennon and Tupac are just some of the celebrities that have become larger-than-life deities after death, often times pulling in more annual income than they did when they were alive and raising hell. But watching the marathon wave of the Michael Jackson love fest has been an awesome and at time laughable exercise in hypocrisy....K. Murphy To read the entire piece go to: http://www.vibe.com/posts...etter-dead [Edited 2/10/10 16:00pm] | |
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^ Like I said. Murdered. Death of MJ = everybody making money hand over fist. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: ^ Like I said. Murdered. Death of MJ = everybody making money hand over fist.
Yep Yep... [Edited 2/10/10 16:24pm] | |
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I know someone is going to hate me for this, but can we honestly say that MJ was "murdered"? I mean, look at all the other pills he was taking. It's possible that the Propofol could have had a bad reaction to another drug. I just can't put all the blame on Murray for this.
I mean, even Janet admitted that Michael had a drug problem. Who knows. If MJ was only taking Propofol and NOT the other drug combinations he was using, he might still be here. We'll never know [Edited 2/10/10 16:36pm] | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: I know someone is going to hate me for this, but can we honestly say that MJ was "murdered"? I mean, look at all the other pills he was taking. It's possible that the Propofol could have had a bad reaction to another drug. I just can't put all the blame on Murray for this.
I mean, even Janet admitted that Michael had a drug problem. Who knows. If MJ was only taking Propofol and NOT the other drug combinations he was using, he might still be here. We'll never know [Edited 2/10/10 16:36pm] Nah it was concluded that it was the propofol. He had no other drugs in his system other than the medication Murray had given him. I don't know about that 20/20 interviewm, they played that angle up to the hilt and we all know how they edit stuff (remember 2003?). We all knew Michael had a problem back in 1993/94 but in 2009? hmmm.... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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murph said: What up MJ heads....Check out an excerpt from my VIBE blog commentary on the cool and at times hypocritical comeback of the King of Pop...Michael Jackson...As usual, don't be afraid to leave comments on the blog...I want to know what the real MJ fans think...Peace....
Murphy’s Law: Dig U Better Dead In life there are three inevitables: Death, taxes and Michael Jackson Since his tragic passing on June 25, 2009, the Gloved One has been stuntin’ something hard from his record-breaking return to Billboard (Last summer, MJ held nine of the top 10 spots on SoundScan album charts.) to the global box office takeover of the concert documentary This Is It (that’s $259,315,980). If that wasn’t enough, MJ currently boast the #1 selling DVD in the country as This Is It has pushed more than 1.2 million copies, a first week sales record for a music film. Show off. With seemingly every award breaking its neck to serve tribute to the King of Pop, the latest being the Grammy’s rather plastic MJ commendation—Celine Dion …really???—you almost expect the pedigreed canines at the upcoming Westminster Kennel Dog Show to trot out to the sounds of “Beat It” while wearing red, spiked, zippered leather jackets. Hey, you read it here first. On the surface, such posthumous adulation is as shocking as For The Love Of Ray J. Elvis, John Lennon and Tupac are just some of the celebrities that have become larger-than-life deities after death, often times pulling in more annual income than they did when they were alive and raising hell. But watching the marathon wave of the Michael Jackson love fest has been an awesome and at time laughable exercise in hypocrisy....K. Murphy To read the entire piece go to: http://www.vibe.com/posts...etter-dead [Edited 2/10/10 16:00pm] 
I didn't know you still worked with Vibe  I remember you mentioned it on OKP awhile back"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: I know someone is going to hate me for this, but can we honestly say that MJ was "murdered"? I mean, look at all the other pills he was taking. It's possible that the Propofol could have had a bad reaction to another drug. I just can't put all the blame on Murray for this.
Murray was not supposed to give him propofol in the manner that he did. That's what the charges are based on per the coroner's report. Also, according to some of the news reports, propofol has only ever been associated with death in cases of abuse, suicide, murder or accident. Now if Murray was treating MJ in a medical facility and had consulted other specialists regarding the sleep disorder then maybe you could say this was a terrible accident. Murray not only gave MJ propofol but gave him anti-anxiety drugs on top of other so called sleep aids. He was dosing MJ with a cocktail of drugs and for what...sleep? IMO it all points to flat out negligence/murder. If I had to be hardcore about it. I'd say Murray was paid to off MJ. I mean what would he care if in the end he gets a shit load of cash to last him all his days and only has to do a couple years in a country club prison if any time at all. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: ViintageJunkiie said: I know someone is going to hate me for this, but can we honestly say that MJ was "murdered"? I mean, look at all the other pills he was taking. It's possible that the Propofol could have had a bad reaction to another drug. I just can't put all the blame on Murray for this.
Murray was not supposed to give him propofol in the manner that he did. That's what the charges are based on per the coroner's report. Also, according to some of the news reports, propofol has only ever been associated with death in cases of abuse, suicide, murder or accident. Now if Murray was treating MJ in a medical facility and had consulted other specialists regarding the sleep disorder then maybe you could say this was a terrible accident. Murray not only gave MJ propofol but gave him anti-anxiety drugs on top of other so called sleep aids. He was dosing MJ with a cocktail of drugs and for what...sleep? IMO it all points to flat out negligence/murder. If I had to be hardcore about it. I'd say Murray was paid to off MJ. I mean what would he care if in the end he gets a shit load of cash to last him all his days and only has to do a couple years in a country club prison if any time at all. But BEFORE Murray came into the picture, wasn't MJ already taking drugs to help him sleep? I'm sure all the drugs that MJ was taking over the years took it's toll on his body. Propofol was probably the straw that broke the camels back. | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: DesireeNevermind said: Murray was not supposed to give him propofol in the manner that he did. That's what the charges are based on per the coroner's report. Also, according to some of the news reports, propofol has only ever been associated with death in cases of abuse, suicide, murder or accident. Now if Murray was treating MJ in a medical facility and had consulted other specialists regarding the sleep disorder then maybe you could say this was a terrible accident. Murray not only gave MJ propofol but gave him anti-anxiety drugs on top of other so called sleep aids. He was dosing MJ with a cocktail of drugs and for what...sleep? IMO it all points to flat out negligence/murder. If I had to be hardcore about it. I'd say Murray was paid to off MJ. I mean what would he care if in the end he gets a shit load of cash to last him all his days and only has to do a couple years in a country club prison if any time at all. But BEFORE Murray came into the picture, wasn't MJ already taking drugs to help him sleep? I'm sure all the drugs that MJ was taking over the years took it's toll on his body. Propofol was probably the straw that broke the camels back. Not sure, but reading how it went down the night before, something was bound to happen, not to mention dude didn't even have the right equipment and waited to call 911... what, see....I told ya'll I wasn't gonna talk about this and there ya'll go pullin' me in!
I rebuke you, ViintageJunkiie!!!!! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: murph said: What up MJ heads....Check out an excerpt from my VIBE blog commentary on the cool and at times hypocritical comeback of the King of Pop...Michael Jackson...As usual, don't be afraid to leave comments on the blog...I want to know what the real MJ fans think...Peace....
Murphy’s Law: Dig U Better Dead In life there are three inevitables: Death, taxes and Michael Jackson Since his tragic passing on June 25, 2009, the Gloved One has been stuntin’ something hard from his record-breaking return to Billboard (Last summer, MJ held nine of the top 10 spots on SoundScan album charts.) to the global box office takeover of the concert documentary This Is It (that’s $259,315,980). If that wasn’t enough, MJ currently boast the #1 selling DVD in the country as This Is It has pushed more than 1.2 million copies, a first week sales record for a music film. Show off. With seemingly every award breaking its neck to serve tribute to the King of Pop, the latest being the Grammy’s rather plastic MJ commendation—Celine Dion …really???—you almost expect the pedigreed canines at the upcoming Westminster Kennel Dog Show to trot out to the sounds of “Beat It” while wearing red, spiked, zippered leather jackets. Hey, you read it here first. On the surface, such posthumous adulation is as shocking as For The Love Of Ray J. Elvis, John Lennon and Tupac are just some of the celebrities that have become larger-than-life deities after death, often times pulling in more annual income than they did when they were alive and raising hell. But watching the marathon wave of the Michael Jackson love fest has been an awesome and at time laughable exercise in hypocrisy....K. Murphy To read the entire piece go to: http://www.vibe.com/posts...etter-dead [Edited 2/10/10 16:00pm]
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bboy87 said: ViintageJunkiie said: But BEFORE Murray came into the picture, wasn't MJ already taking drugs to help him sleep? I'm sure all the drugs that MJ was taking over the years took it's toll on his body. Propofol was probably the straw that broke the camels back. Not sure, but reading how it went down the night before, something was bound to happen, not to mention dude didn't even have the right equipment and waited to call 911... what, see....I told ya'll I wasn't gonna talk about this and there ya'll go pullin' me in!
I rebuke you, ViintageJunkiie!!!!! Yeah I heard about Murray not having the equipment in the room and only having a manual air pumper (or whatever it's called) BUT they didn't know if it was Murrays or if the Paramedics left it. LMAO! Dammit, I mean, I'm really putting the pieces together here. You know how everyone gangs up on Papa Joe, I always find a way to defend him. LOL. Same thing with Murray. I think I just look at both sides | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: bboy87 said: Not sure, but reading how it went down the night before, something was bound to happen, not to mention dude didn't even have the right equipment and waited to call 911... what, see....I told ya'll I wasn't gonna talk about this and there ya'll go pullin' me in!
I rebuke you, ViintageJunkiie!!!!! Yeah I heard about Murray not having the equipment in the room and only having a manual air pumper (or whatever it's called) BUT they didn't know if it was Murrays or if the Paramedics left it. LMAO! Dammit, I mean, I'm really putting the pieces together here. You know how everyone gangs up on Papa Joe, I always find a way to defend him. LOL. Same thing with Murray. I think I just look at both sides Now you know it's damn near impossible to defend Joe, especially after that interview with Leonard Rowe on Larry King
That shit set black folks back 30 years and California Raisins back 10 years "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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