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Discuss Everything MJ - Part 6

To prevent the forum from getting flooded with MJ this and that threads I've created a sticky so you all can get it out of your systems and post to your hearts delight.

Do not be surprised if threads get lock and redirected here.


And to refresh your memories I post http://prince.org/msg/8/299566


Ok..... post away.

Part 1 http://prince.org/msg/8/320317
Part 2 http://prince.org/msg/8/320916
Part 3 http://prince.org/msg/8/321552
Part 4 http://prince.org/msg/8/322442
Part 5 http://prince.org/msg/8/323349
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Reply #1 posted 11/17/09 11:17pm

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did anyone get this?

"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #2 posted 11/17/09 11:18pm

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There's like three or four different versions of where Janet was on June 25th, we still don't know for sure where she was


what's up with that?
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #3 posted 11/17/09 11:35pm

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oh bloody hell...

[Already posted here http://prince.org/msg/8/323350?&pg=3 on the correct thread snip - luv4u]
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #4 posted 11/18/09 2:17am

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #5 posted 11/18/09 3:19am

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‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #6 posted 11/18/09 5:56am

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Michael and Beyonce Radio Music Awards 2003
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Reply #7 posted 11/18/09 6:02am

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luv4ever said:[quote]Michael and Beyonce Radio Music Awards 2003
[img]http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/51862745/Getty-Images-Entertainment

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Reply #8 posted 11/18/09 7:13am

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bboy:

I thought it was Linda but looking at it closely, I could be wrong.

The soundtrack is simply the original album tracks, but those aren't the songs you want. You want that second disc.

I don't expect anything new to be officially released until next year.

stuff being leaked.....well, that's another story.

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I see. Yeah i just saw the cd in my mums car, can't believe they did that. A huge offensive cash in.

The demo's are ok, not THAT interesting though but, hearing the vocal melodies on Beat it and the stripped down SOOML is pretty cool. Not worth getting at all though. If the trax were live like in the movie, i'd get it because they were so much better than the studio versions, i actually bopped to jam!
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Reply #9 posted 11/18/09 9:23am

1013Nightlife

I don't know if this has been posted before. But I think it's rather important news. Jordie Chandler's father commits suicide!

http://www.eonline.com/ub...topstories

Father of Michael Jackson Molestation Accuser Commits Suicide
Today 7:25 AM PST by JOSH GROSSBERG


AP Photo/Reed Saxon
The man whose son derailed Michael Jackson's career with blockbuster accusations of molestation is dead of an apparent suicide.
Evan Chandler, 65, was found in his luxury New Jersey apartment Nov. 5 with a single, self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head and the weapon still in his hand, police confirm.
The former Beverly Hills dentist and aspiring screenwriter did not leave behind a suicide note. However, detectives found prescription medication indicating he was suffering from a serious medical condition. Police did not disclose the nature of Chandler's illness.

Chandler was the driving force behind a 1994 child-molestation case, telling Santa Barbara authorities that his then 13-year-old son, Jordan, had been sexually abused by the singer during sleepovers at Neverland Ranch.
The allegations sparked an investigation that led Jackson, in an effort to clear his name, to voluntarily allow his genitalia to be photographed as evidence. Before the case could ever go to trial however, the Moonwalker's attorneys eventually convinced him to settle with the Chandlers for a reported $22 million.

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[Edited 11/18/09 9:25am]

May the truth come out, for once and for all.
I hope Jordan will clear up everything , one day.

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Reply #10 posted 11/18/09 9:46am

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would sony ever listen to the urge of live dvds pre dangerous . i would cut off a pink for that
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Reply #11 posted 11/18/09 9:52am

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MJ is mentioned a lot in this video. I hope people don't think the subject matter is a part of his legacy.

http://www.worldstarhipho...5mddmM0c3m
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Reply #12 posted 11/18/09 10:30am

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bboy87 said:

I have some questions:

Which of these would you like to see? :

-Bad World Tour in Wembley or Los Angeles on DVD and Blu Ray
-DVD boxset of The Jackson 5ive's television appearances and TV specials
-Moonwalker in HD quality on DVD and Blu Ray
-An "Ultimate Video Collection" compilation of ALL of Michael's videos remastered on one set
-Making Michael Jackson's Thriller on DVD
-The Victory Tour on DVD
-The Triumph Tour on DVD
-The Jacksons Variety Show on DVD
-HIStory Tour in Munich or Gothenburg on DVD


Well, I already have Moonwalker on DVD, but a HD version would certainly be awesome. Bad tour MUST be released, same with Victory and Triumph tours.

Since they're both short films, I'd also like to see "Ghosts" and "Captain EO" on one DVD/BluRay. I know that's probably unlikely due to different rights holders etc though.
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Reply #13 posted 11/18/09 10:46am

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They need to do a video anthology, something massive. Like a 10-disc DVD boxset.

-Jackson 5 Concert
-Jacksons Mexico City Concert
-Jacksons Destiny Concert
-Jacksons Triumph Concert
-Jacksons Victory Tour Concert
-Michael Jackson Bad Tour Concert
-Michael Jackson Dangerous Tour Concert
-Michael Jackson HIStory Tour Concert
-Michael Jackson 30th Anniversary Celebration

With TV performances (like the Ed Sullivan show), TV ads from the concerts, Pepsi Commercials, Jacksons videos like Can You Feel It & Blame It On The Boogie, maybe some other rare stuff.

Will this ever happen? Of course not, but a nice boxset with concerts from every era, plus extras and a book with information, essays and pictures and maybe even a live CD would really be neat.
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Reply #14 posted 11/18/09 12:11pm

kellistarr120

I'd like to see:

Jackson 5ive variety show on DVD. Want to see it!!!

Jacksons Triumph Concert

Jackson 5ive television performances

Michael Jackson television performances
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Reply #15 posted 11/18/09 12:12pm

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Superstition said:

They need to do a video anthology, something massive. Like a 10-disc DVD boxset.

-Jackson 5 Concert
-Jacksons Mexico City Concert
-Jacksons Destiny Concert
-Jacksons Triumph Concert
-Jacksons Victory Tour Concert
-Michael Jackson Bad Tour Concert
-Michael Jackson Dangerous Tour Concert
-Michael Jackson HIStory Tour Concert
-Michael Jackson 30th Anniversary Celebration

With TV performances (like the Ed Sullivan show), TV ads from the concerts, Pepsi Commercials, Jacksons videos like Can You Feel It & Blame It On The Boogie, maybe some other rare stuff.

Will this ever happen? Of course not, but a nice boxset with concerts from every era, plus extras and a book with information, essays and pictures and maybe even a live CD would really be neat.


This is an awesome idea. Who do we talk to? I wish we could be heard.
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Reply #16 posted 11/18/09 12:40pm

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motownlover said:

would sony ever listen to the urge of live dvds pre dangerous . i would cut off a pink for that


Sony doesn't own the rights to the footage, so they have no "say-so" in anything.
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Reply #17 posted 11/18/09 1:08pm

Identity



Janet Jackson: Michael Was 'In Denial' About Drug Abuse
November 18

Janet Jackson says she recognized her brother Michael's drug problem, and tried to help him, but that he rebuffed those attempts to intervene.

"You can't make 'em drink the water," Jackson told ABC News in an interview airing Wednesday. When asked if her brother was in denial about his addiction, she replied, "Possibly."

"I wish he could answer this question for you and not me," she told ABC's Robin Roberts. "I felt that he was in denial."

She blames Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson's personal physician, for his death June 25.

Prosecutors in Los Angeles are weighing charges against Murray, who told police he administered a powerful anesthetic to the singer shortly before he died.

During the interview, the 43-year-old Janet Jackson spoke of her upcoming diet book, "True You," which chronicles her lifelong struggle to control her weight.

She has gained some mastery over her self-image, she said, after years of "just picking yourself apart all the time because you're so used to being kind of picked apart."

She said she hasn't seen "This Is It," the new documentary film spotlighting her late brother as he prepared for the concert tour that would've taken place last summer.

"I definitely won't, not right now," she said. "I don't know if I will ever see it."



http://www.billboard.com/...3697.story
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Identity said:



Janet Jackson: Michael Was 'In Denial' About Drug Abuse
November 18

Janet Jackson says she recognized her brother Michael's drug problem, and tried to help him, but that he rebuffed those attempts to intervene.

"You can't make 'em drink the water," Jackson told ABC News in an interview airing Wednesday. When asked if her brother was in denial about his addiction, she replied, "Possibly."

"I wish he could answer this question for you and not me," she told ABC's Robin Roberts. "I felt that he was in denial."

She blames Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson's personal physician, for his death June 25.

Prosecutors in Los Angeles are weighing charges against Murray, who told police he administered a powerful anesthetic to the singer shortly before he died.

During the interview, the 43-year-old Janet Jackson spoke of her upcoming diet book, "True You," which chronicles her lifelong struggle to control her weight.

She has gained some mastery over her self-image, she said, after years of "just picking yourself apart all the time because you're so used to being kind of picked apart."

She said she hasn't seen "This Is It," the new documentary film spotlighting her late brother as he prepared for the concert tour that would've taken place last summer.

"I definitely won't, not right now," she said. "I don't know if I will ever see it."



http://www.billboard.com/...3697.story


I don't blame you Janet..... sad
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Reply #19 posted 11/18/09 2:28pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

Identity said:



Janet Jackson: Michael Was 'In Denial' About Drug Abuse
November 18

Janet Jackson says she recognized her brother Michael's drug problem, and tried to help him, but that he rebuffed those attempts to intervene.

"You can't make 'em drink the water," Jackson told ABC News in an interview airing Wednesday. When asked if her brother was in denial about his addiction, she replied, "Possibly."

"I wish he could answer this question for you and not me," she told ABC's Robin Roberts. "I felt that he was in denial."

She blames Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson's personal physician, for his death June 25.

Prosecutors in Los Angeles are weighing charges against Murray, who told police he administered a powerful anesthetic to the singer shortly before he died.

During the interview, the 43-year-old Janet Jackson spoke of her upcoming diet book, "True You," which chronicles her lifelong struggle to control her weight.

She has gained some mastery over her self-image, she said, after years of "just picking yourself apart all the time because you're so used to being kind of picked apart."

She said she hasn't seen "This Is It," the new documentary film spotlighting her late brother as he prepared for the concert tour that would've taken place last summer.

"I definitely won't, not right now," she said. "I don't know if I will ever see it."



http://www.billboard.com/...3697.story


I don't blame you Janet..... sad


I don't blame her either.
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Reply #20 posted 11/18/09 2:36pm

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Bit late on this, but I just saw Evan Chandler has died.

I've been reading the news and now, after two people in this long story are dead (MJ and Chandler), now these articles seem fit to include the fact that Jackson's insurers, and not MJ himself, paid the settlement. I'm seeing the line about insurers in more and more articles now.

16 years after they've beat the dead horse of "MJ paying off his accusers".

I wonder if there will ever be any more revelations in this sad story.
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Reply #21 posted 11/18/09 3:00pm

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Identity said:



Janet Jackson: Michael Was 'In Denial' About Drug Abuse
November 18

Janet Jackson says she recognized her brother Michael's drug problem, and tried to help him, but that he rebuffed those attempts to intervene.

"You can't make 'em drink the water," Jackson told ABC News in an interview airing Wednesday. When asked if her brother was in denial about his addiction, she replied, "Possibly."

"I wish he could answer this question for you and not me," she told ABC's Robin Roberts. "I felt that he was in denial."

She blames Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson's personal physician, for his death June 25.

Prosecutors in Los Angeles are weighing charges against Murray, who told police he administered a powerful anesthetic to the singer shortly before he died.

During the interview, the 43-year-old Janet Jackson spoke of her upcoming diet book, "True You," which chronicles her lifelong struggle to control her weight.

She has gained some mastery over her self-image, she said, after years of "just picking yourself apart all the time because you're so used to being kind of picked apart."

She said she hasn't seen "This Is It," the new documentary film spotlighting her late brother as he prepared for the concert tour that would've taken place last summer.

"I definitely won't, not right now," she said. "I don't know if I will ever see it."



http://www.billboard.com/...3697.story


To quote from the KOP board -

QUOTE (Saghs @ Nov 18 2009, 10:49 AM)
the autopsy report didn't trace any other drugs other than those administered by Murray the night MJ died.
MJ did have problems before, I think Janet's talking about those times. But hey, MJ cleaned up by himself, no more painkillers, etc...as the autopsy reports showed.

End.

Just so folks don't forget. confused
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Marrk said:

Identity said:



Janet Jackson: Michael Was 'In Denial' About Drug Abuse
November 18

Janet Jackson says she recognized her brother Michael's drug problem, and tried to help him, but that he rebuffed those attempts to intervene.

"You can't make 'em drink the water," Jackson told ABC News in an interview airing Wednesday. When asked if her brother was in denial about his addiction, she replied, "Possibly."

"I wish he could answer this question for you and not me," she told ABC's Robin Roberts. "I felt that he was in denial."

She blames Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson's personal physician, for his death June 25.

Prosecutors in Los Angeles are weighing charges against Murray, who told police he administered a powerful anesthetic to the singer shortly before he died.

During the interview, the 43-year-old Janet Jackson spoke of her upcoming diet book, "True You," which chronicles her lifelong struggle to control her weight.

She has gained some mastery over her self-image, she said, after years of "just picking yourself apart all the time because you're so used to being kind of picked apart."

She said she hasn't seen "This Is It," the new documentary film spotlighting her late brother as he prepared for the concert tour that would've taken place last summer.

"I definitely won't, not right now," she said. "I don't know if I will ever see it."



http://www.billboard.com/...3697.story


To quote from the KOP board -

QUOTE (Saghs @ Nov 18 2009, 10:49 AM)
the autopsy report didn't trace any other drugs other than those administered by Murray the night MJ died.
MJ did have problems before, I think Janet's talking about those times. But hey, MJ cleaned up by himself, no more painkillers, etc...as the autopsy reports showed.

End.

Just so folks don't forget. confused
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thanks hug

Enough of the ridiculous claim that Mj is a drug addict....lol
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Reply #23 posted 11/18/09 3:08pm

MOL

I wish Michael's family would stop calling him a junkie. I really do.
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Reply #24 posted 11/18/09 3:13pm

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MOL said:

I wish Michael's family would stop calling him a junkie. I really do.


I've a good mind to consign the rest of his family to HIStory. Getting sick of it all now. confused
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Reply #25 posted 11/18/09 3:16pm

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MOL said:

I wish Michael's family would stop calling him a junkie. I really do.


no one said he's a junkie. some fans need to take off their rose colored glasses and see the reality of things.
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Reply #26 posted 11/18/09 3:23pm

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bboy:

I thought it was Linda but looking at it closely, I could be wrong.

The soundtrack is simply the original album tracks, but those aren't the songs you want. You want that second disc.

I don't expect anything new to be officially released until next year.

stuff being leaked.....well, that's another story.

--

I see. Yeah i just saw the cd in my mums car, can't believe they did that. A huge offensive cash in.

The demo's are ok, not THAT interesting though but, hearing the vocal melodies on Beat it and the stripped down SOOML is pretty cool. Not worth getting at all though. If the trax were live like in the movie, i'd get it because they were so much better than the studio versions, i actually bopped to jam!

I think at the time, Sony's hands are tied:

They lose the catalog in 2011, they don't own any concert footage, They have to get approval from the estate on which unreleased music they can release and they don't own the material Michael recorded after 2004
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #27 posted 11/18/09 3:26pm

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bboy87 said:

WetDream said:

bboy:

I thought it was Linda but looking at it closely, I could be wrong.

The soundtrack is simply the original album tracks, but those aren't the songs you want. You want that second disc.

I don't expect anything new to be officially released until next year.

stuff being leaked.....well, that's another story.

--

I see. Yeah i just saw the cd in my mums car, can't believe they did that. A huge offensive cash in.

The demo's are ok, not THAT interesting though but, hearing the vocal melodies on Beat it and the stripped down SOOML is pretty cool. Not worth getting at all though. If the trax were live like in the movie, i'd get it because they were so much better than the studio versions, i actually bopped to jam!

I think at the time, Sony's hands are tied:

They lose the catalog in 2011, they don't own any concert footage, They have to get approval from the estate on which unreleased music they can release and they don't own the material Michael recorded after 2004


They don't own the unreleased Invinicble sessions recordings ..right? eek
MICHAEL JACKSON
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مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #28 posted 11/18/09 3:44pm

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MJ obviously did have a problem or else he wouldn't have had a personal physician pumping him full of crap. The family didn't call him a junkie, they said he had a problem, and it looks as if he did.

I guess because he may have been addicted to these sleeping agents and not painkillers or cocaine it means he wasn't an addict?

Why can't the man have his flaws?
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Reply #29 posted 11/18/09 3:52pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

bboy87 said:


I think at the time, Sony's hands are tied:

They lose the catalog in 2011, they don't own any concert footage, They have to get approval from the estate on which unreleased music they can release and they don't own the material Michael recorded after 2004


They don't own the unreleased Invinicble sessions recordings ..right? eek

Anything before 2004, Sony has rights to
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