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Reply #300 posted 11/11/09 5:13am

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DarlingDiana said:

mimi07 said:


[Edited 11/10/09 23:33pm]

No offense to them... but Tito and Marlon didn't inherit the good looks that Jackie, Jermaine and Michael did. I just noticed how, and I hate to use the word... but, uglier they look compared to the other Jackson boys. You can especially see the contrast in that second photo. I mean I'm not harshing on them or anything. They are terrible looking. But Jackie, Jermaine and Michael are so much better looking. That's all. Although when Marlon grew up he got a lot prettier. He's actually probably one of the better looking Jackson men these days.


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Jermaine was (in the 70s) probably the best conventional looking J5.

I don't care for Jackass Jackson, he's plain boring and useless. He's ordinary, he and his nose look mean.
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Reply #301 posted 11/11/09 7:01am

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Joe Jackson seems like a greedy s.o.b. - going after Michael's estate for financial support rolleyes

I really feel he should NOT get any $$$


Thankfully, the judge shot it down. Joe ain't getting shit.
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Reply #302 posted 11/11/09 7:52am

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So if this is not the real David Rothenberg,who is he supposed to be, Michael in disguise? lol


Now IF i was crazy, i'd say prosthetics have moved on in the 12years since 'Ghosts', but you can't hide eyes, that guys teeth look good, prosthetic hands? it can't be denied he has a lot of Michael's mannerisms. This could well be the biggest con ever. HE's ALIIIIVE!

If i was crazy. or a Youtube comment poster. confused

C'mon, c'mon, admit it. You think he's alive too, don't you? lol
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Reply #303 posted 11/11/09 8:19am

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Now IF i was crazy, i'd say prosthetics have moved on in the 12years since 'Ghosts', but you can't hide eyes, that guys teeth look good, prosthetic hands? it can't be denied he has a lot of Michael's mannerisms. This could well be the biggest con ever. HE's ALIIIIVE!

If i was crazy. or a Youtube comment poster. confused

C'mon, c'mon, admit it. You think he's alive too, don't you? lol


hmph! I'll do no such thing! lol
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Reply #304 posted 11/11/09 8:22am

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uPtoWnNY said:

luv4u said:

Joe Jackson seems like a greedy s.o.b. - going after Michael's estate for financial support rolleyes

I really feel he should NOT get any $$$


Thankfully, the judge shot it down. Joe ain't getting shit.


just makes me wonder what his next plan to get the money will be
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Reply #305 posted 11/11/09 8:47am

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #306 posted 11/11/09 8:53am

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dag said:


Is that photoshopped?
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Reply #307 posted 11/11/09 9:10am

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dag said:


Is that photoshopped?


Same photoshoot as the Man In The Mirror single cover aint it?
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Reply #308 posted 11/11/09 10:00am

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dag said:


Is that photoshopped?



His head looks like it's floating on another body... like from the Why single or something. lol
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Reply #309 posted 11/11/09 10:06am

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uPtoWnNY said:



Thankfully, the judge shot it down. Joe ain't getting shit.


just makes me wonder what his next plan to get the money will be



Yep, Papa Joe's not done.
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Reply #310 posted 11/11/09 10:09am

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dag said:


Is that photoshopped?

I don´t know. I found it on KOP board. The chest and the neck look like his. Well, it´s hot, anyway.
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #311 posted 11/11/09 10:11am

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uPtoWnNY said:

b3xy said:



just makes me wonder what his next plan to get the money will be



Yep, Papa Joe's not done.

I got the same feelin'....


next thing you know, Michael's half sister is gonna be suing neutral
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Reply #312 posted 11/11/09 10:46am

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Check this out! It's kinda fun snooping around.

http://www.pinsane2.com/p...entry.html

lol
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Reply #313 posted 11/11/09 10:57am

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Marrk said:

Check this out! It's kinda fun snooping around.

http://www.pinsane2.com/p...entry.html

lol
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Wow, that's quite impressive... so much cool stuff.
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Reply #314 posted 11/11/09 11:12am

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #315 posted 11/11/09 11:21am

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Joe to MJ: Support Me in the Afterlife!
Posted Nov 11th 2009 9:33AM by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson made a promise to "always support" his dad and if the estate reneges on that promise Joe will take it to court -- this, according to Joe's lawyer.

Attorney Brian Oxman tells TMZ Michael had repeatedly given Joe, Katherine, and other members of the family assurance that he would "always support" them ... even in the afterlife.

Oxman says Jackson -- in effect -- made a contract on which the family relied. He reiterated -- he's considering filing a creditor's claim if Joe is cut off financially.

The estate seems curiously supportive in giving Joe an allowance ... at least for the time being. But the clock is ticking on creditor's claims, so Joe may have to file one soon in order to preserve his right to go after the MJ estate.


Now you know why Michael spent so much money.. He was supporting his family!!

Shit Joe's gotta have that money to entertain those young ladies in Las Vegas!
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Reply #316 posted 11/11/09 11:25am

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Joe to MJ: Support Me in the Afterlife!
Posted Nov 11th 2009 9:33AM by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson made a promise to "always support" his dad and if the estate reneges on that promise Joe will take it to court -- this, according to Joe's lawyer.

Attorney Brian Oxman tells TMZ Michael had repeatedly given Joe, Katherine, and other members of the family assurance that he would "always support" them ... even in the afterlife.

Oxman says Jackson -- in effect -- made a contract on which the family relied. He reiterated -- he's considering filing a creditor's claim if Joe is cut off financially.

The estate seems curiously supportive in giving Joe an allowance ... at least for the time being. But the clock is ticking on creditor's claims, so Joe may have to file one soon in order to preserve his right to go after the MJ estate.


Now you know why Michael spent so much money.. He was supporting his family!!

Shit Joe's gotta have that money to entertain those young ladies in Las Vegas!


Joseph Walter Jackson, shut the fuck up. You too Brian Assman.
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Reply #317 posted 11/11/09 11:37am

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I just don't understand why they can't support themselves? Do the Osmonds bum off of Donny and Marie? I'm guessing not since they still do shows but it seems like the brothers were just waiting in hopes of a reunion to make some extra money. They couldn't professionally transition into anything else? neutral
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Reply #318 posted 11/11/09 12:00pm

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LOL...no one's answered my question from yesterday, where the hell is all their Jackson 5 cash at?

Why does everybody have to run to Michael for money? I mean we're talking about the Jacksons...not the DeBarges, not the Silvers, the fucking Jacksons. Over 100 million records sold, come on now fam.
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Reply #319 posted 11/11/09 12:02pm

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Warhol's Michael Jackson portrait sells for $812K



(AP) - 12 hours ago

NEW YORK - A "Thriller"-era silk-screened portrait of Michael Jackson created by Andy Warhol has sold for $812,500 to an anonymous collector.The artwork sold at Christie's in New York City Tuesday evening. Christie's estimated that the portrait would sell for $500,000 to $700,000.

The 1984 portrait depicts a smiling Jackson in a jacket with squiggles of red and yellow in his hair.

The auction house says the seller is an anonymous private collector based in New York who bought the image from the Andy Warhol Foundation in the 1990s. It did not say who bought the artwork.

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Reply #320 posted 11/11/09 12:05pm

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musicjunky318 said:

LOL...no one's answered my question from yesterday, where the hell is all their Jackson 5 cash at?

Why does everybody have to run to Michael for money? I mean we're talking about the Jacksons...not the DeBarges, not the Silvers, the fucking Jacksons. Over 100 million records sold, come on now fam.


That's what I'm wondering? Did they run through it... I mean it was a while ago and they didn't tour much as adults so maybe they ran out. Instead of looking to Michael to tour Jermaine should have toured more with the brothers so they could make their own money, otherwise, open up hair salon or a recording studio or something.
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Reply #321 posted 11/11/09 12:15pm

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LOL...no one's answered my question from yesterday, where the hell is all their Jackson 5 cash at?

Why does everybody have to run to Michael for money? I mean we're talking about the Jacksons...not the DeBarges, not the Silvers, the fucking Jacksons. Over 100 million records sold, come on now fam.


The Jackson brothers spent all of the money they earned. Half of the records sold were with Motown and they don't own no royalties from Jobete. Only thing that they could get money off of was their Epic material and most of that were from MJ's publishing company anyways.
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Reply #322 posted 11/11/09 12:17pm

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JackieBlue said:

musicjunky318 said:

LOL...no one's answered my question from yesterday, where the hell is all their Jackson 5 cash at?

Why does everybody have to run to Michael for money? I mean we're talking about the Jacksons...not the DeBarges, not the Silvers, the fucking Jacksons. Over 100 million records sold, come on now fam.


That's what I'm wondering? Did they run through it... I mean it was a while ago and they didn't tour much as adults so maybe they ran out. Instead of looking to Michael to tour Jermaine should have toured more with the brothers so they could make their own money, otherwise, open up hair salon or a recording studio or something.

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Reply #323 posted 11/11/09 12:18pm

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C'mon, c'mon, admit it. You think he's alive too, don't you? lol


hmph! I'll do no such thing! lol

lol
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Reply #324 posted 11/11/09 12:18pm

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Marrk said:

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So if this is not the real David Rothenberg,who is he supposed to be, Michael in disguise? lol


Now IF i was crazy, i'd say prosthetics have moved on in the 12years since 'Ghosts', but you can't hide eyes, that guys teeth look good, prosthetic hands? it can't be denied he has a lot of Michael's mannerisms. This could well be the biggest con ever. HE's ALIIIIVE!

If i was crazy. or a Youtube comment poster.
confused

Yeah, I know. The notion does seem absurd. But watching this guy made me feel like I was looking at Michael perform an impersonation like in "Ghosts," as you stated. I know MJ's young friends loved him like crazy, but this is the first one I've heard talk who speaks just like him. It's strange. I'm not saying that is MJ though...but then again, with all of the mystery in this case, I'm not saying it's not him either. shrug

Another interesting thing I just read about this interview is that it was recorded the same day as the funeral, and Karen Faye stated she had been with Michael that day for 8 hours applying make-up and clothing. Does it usually take that long to dress a corpse? neutral Again, I'm not saying he's alive. I'm just a little perplexed now.
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Reply #325 posted 11/11/09 12:29pm

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LOL...no one's answered my question from yesterday, where the hell is all their Jackson 5 cash at?

Why does everybody have to run to Michael for money? I mean we're talking about the Jacksons...not the DeBarges, not the Silvers, the fucking Jacksons. Over 100 million records sold, come on now fam.


they been went through that money. they may have sold alot of records but remember their royalties from motown was bullshit, what did they get like 3 cents per record? they split that 5 ways plus joe's manager's fee and all the other expenses.i think their biggest payday was probably the victory tour where they got like 5 million each, well that was 25 years ,several divorces and babymommas ago.michael said they were lazy and i guess he was right because i dont see why they couldnt put together oldies tours over the years, they wasnt gonna make millions but at least it would be a paycheck.they had their hopes set on mj returning and they go out on this earth shattering world tour, but it wasnt gonna happen.they shouldnt have to depend on their brother to support them but i still say i dont see a problem with his family getting any of his money, the jacksons are not the only family where a super rich relative is providing for multiple people.
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Reply #326 posted 11/11/09 12:34pm

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musicjunky318 said:

LOL...no one's answered my question from yesterday, where the hell is all their Jackson 5 cash at?

Why does everybody have to run to Michael for money? I mean we're talking about the Jacksons...not the DeBarges, not the Silvers, the fucking Jacksons. Over 100 million records sold, come on now fam.


they been went through that money. they may have sold alot of records but remember their royalties from motown was bullshit, what did they get like 3 cents per record? they split that 5 ways plus joe's manager's fee and all the other expenses.i think their biggest payday was probably the victory tour where they got like 5 million each, well that was 25 years ,several divorces and babymommas ago.michael said they were lazy and i guess he was right because i dont see why they couldnt put together oldies tours over the years, they wasnt gonna make millions but at least it would be a paycheck.they had their hopes set on mj returning and they go out on this earth shattering world tour, but it wasnt gonna happen.they shouldnt have to depend on their brother to support them but i still say i dont see a problem with his family getting any of his money, the jacksons are not the only family where a super rich relative is providing for multiple people.


Basically. It disappoints me how when compared to the other musical families like the Osmonds, Isleys and even the DeBarges, they couldn't even do tours or anything to benefit their wealth. When you depend everything on one man and not do anything for yourself, you're setting yourself up for failure.
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Reply #327 posted 11/11/09 12:39pm

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Yeah, I know. The notion does seem absurd. But watching this guy made me feel like I was looking at Michael perform an impersonation like in "Ghosts," as you stated. I know MJ's young friends loved him like crazy, but this is the first one I've heard talk who speaks just like him. It's strange. I'm not saying that is MJ though...but then again, with all of the mystery in this case, I'm not saying it's not him either. shrug

Another interesting thing I just read about this interview is that it was recorded the same day as the funeral, and Karen Faye stated she had been with Michael that day for 8 hours applying make-up and clothing. Does it usually take that long to dress a corpse? neutral Again, I'm not saying he's alive. I'm just a little perplexed now.

Did Karen do his make-up during funeral? I thought she did not work for him anymore. I remember her being bitter on the fan boards cause at one point Mike just would not call her and she would not work for him anymore. I don´t know who worked for him after that, though. It looks like it was Ruska Bergman.
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Reply #328 posted 11/11/09 12:40pm

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JackieBlue said:

musicjunky318 said:

LOL...no one's answered my question from yesterday, where the hell is all their Jackson 5 cash at?

Why does everybody have to run to Michael for money? I mean we're talking about the Jacksons...not the DeBarges, not the Silvers, the fucking Jacksons. Over 100 million records sold, come on now fam.


That's what I'm wondering? Did they run through it... I mean it was a while ago and they didn't tour much as adults so maybe they ran out. Instead of looking to Michael to tour Jermaine should have toured more with the brothers so they could make their own money, otherwise, open up hair salon or a recording studio or something.

Motown sued them in 1976 for breach of contract (They still owed the label one more album when they left to sign with Epic (Moving Violation was released on May 15, 1975, and they signed with Epic 9 months later). They went to court in 1980 and the judgement was that the brothers had to give up any royalties from material released before 1975 or something to that effect.

They sued the group then sued certain members of the family individually (if I recall correctly) like Joe and Michael
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Reply #329 posted 11/11/09 12:41pm

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But when the well started to run dry did anyone think they better put another plan in motion? I know Marlon had some things going on but what about Jermaine? I really don't understand why he can't still record. Maybe he doesn't want to which is fine but maybe vasectomy would come to mind.

Supporting family is a wonderful thing but there's a lot of Jacksons and it's not like they're invalids or something. Like what does Jermaine do all day every day? I'm really curious.
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