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Reply #390 posted 11/06/09 1:59pm

cdcgold

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Joe Jackson Wants Money from MJ's Estate
Posted Nov 6th 2009 4:06PM by TMZ Staff

Joe Jackson claims there was "no justification" for him to be excluded from getting money from Michael Jackson's estate ... and now he's asking a judge to grant him his own monthly allowance.


Joe just filed papers in L.A. County Superior Court, claiming he's "entitled to his own independent family allowance."

In the docs, Leonard Rowe -- a guy who claims to have been MJ's manager -- claims Michael used to give his mother Katherine up to $60,000 a month to live on ... and then she would give half of that to Joe.

Joe claims Michael's estate has "earned more than $100 million dollars in the first seven (7) weeks following Michael Jackson's death" and is "well able to afford a family allowance for Joe Jackson."

Story developing...

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/1...z0W7K6MxA4



lol i don't know why but i just can't get mad at joe anymore , he just makes me laugh
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Reply #391 posted 11/06/09 2:01pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

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seeingvoices12 said:

EmeraldSkies said:





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Prince Michael looks just like this guy.

rolleyes
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Reply #392 posted 11/06/09 2:05pm

cdcgold

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Graycap23 said:


Prince Michael looks just like this guy.

rolleyes



ignore it and move on. i know if this turns into a debate people will blame it on me because i'm usually the one to pounce on comments like that but i'm not doing that anymore, LET IT GO and leave the kids out of it.
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Reply #393 posted 11/06/09 2:05pm

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Joe Jackson Wants Money from MJ's Estate
Posted Nov 6th 2009 4:06PM by TMZ Staff


Joe Jackson claims there was "no justification" for him to be excluded from getting money from Michael Jackson's estate ... and now he's asking a judge to grant him his own monthly allowance.

Joe just filed papers in L.A. County Superior Court, claiming he's "entitled to his own independent family allowance."

In the docs, Leonard Rowe -- a guy who claims to have been MJ's manager -- says Michael used to give his mother Katherine up to $60,000 a month to live on and that Michael instructed her to give half of it to Joe.

Joe claims Michael's estate has "earned more than $100 million dollars in the first seven (7) weeks following Michael Jackson's death" and is "well able to afford a family allowance for Joe Jackson."

Joe says he has $15,425 in total monthly expenses, including the following:

-- $2,500 eating out
-- $2,000 in air travel
-- $3,000 in hotel bills
-- $1,000 in groceries
-- $1,200 in rent
-- $50 in charitable contributions
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #394 posted 11/06/09 2:11pm

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isn't paris adorable smile and lil blanket


[Edited 11/6/09 14:17pm]
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #395 posted 11/06/09 2:11pm

cdcgold

joe cracks me up.



i truly believe he's going to die like ceily's daddy in the color purple.

"how he die?"
"(shyly)On top of me"
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Reply #396 posted 11/06/09 3:00pm

Timmy84

Joey's just ridiculous. He's as bad as Bob DeBarge (the DeBarges' father). disbelief
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Reply #397 posted 11/06/09 3:08pm

cdcgold

i think that 50 dollars for charity is code for his monthly supply of viagra.
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Reply #398 posted 11/06/09 3:09pm

mimi07

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Timmy84 said:

Joey's just ridiculous. He's as bad as Bob DeBarge (the DeBarges' father). disbelief


i don't think he's as bad a bob debarge, wasn't bob also sexually abusive to his kids on top of being physically abusive
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #399 posted 11/06/09 3:11pm

Timmy84

mimi07 said:

Timmy84 said:

Joey's just ridiculous. He's as bad as Bob DeBarge (the DeBarges' father). disbelief


i don't think he's as bad a bob debarge, wasn't bob also sexually abusive to his kids on top of being physically abusive


No I don't mean like THAT, I meant mentally and psychologically abusive.
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Reply #400 posted 11/06/09 3:11pm

Timmy84

cdcgold said:

i think that 50 dollars for charity is code for his monthly supply of viagra.


And condoms which don't fit him. HE'S EIGHTY! lol
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Reply #401 posted 11/06/09 3:11pm

MOL

cdcgold said:

i think that 50 dollars for charity is code for his monthly supply of viagra.


You said that sarcastically. However, that's actually REALLY PROBABLE. Don't forget what Joe did to Latoya in the 80's when he was on the road with her.
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Reply #402 posted 11/06/09 3:21pm

mimi07

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MOL said:

cdcgold said:

i think that 50 dollars for charity is code for his monthly supply of viagra.


You said that sarcastically. However, that's actually REALLY PROBABLE. Don't forget what Joe did to Latoya in the 80's when he was on the road with her.


what did he do? where do u get ur info?
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #403 posted 11/06/09 3:23pm

MOL

mimi07 said:

MOL said:



You said that sarcastically. However, that's actually REALLY PROBABLE. Don't forget what Joe did to Latoya in the 80's when he was on the road with her.


what did he do? where do u get ur info?


I got my info from a lot of different sources. I can give you one; Margaret Maldonaldo.

You would puke if you knew what Joe Jackson did. Believe me.
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Reply #404 posted 11/06/09 3:24pm

tangerine7

heck with Joe! and everybody else jumping on the money wagon. confused
I pray that the three kids have all the smarts Michael put in them Strongly.
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Reply #405 posted 11/06/09 3:28pm

MOL

tangerine7 said:

heck with Joe! and everybody else jumping on the money wagon. confused
I pray that the three kids have all the smarts Michael out in them Strongly.


Katherine hates those three kids. Remember that she said this; "I can identify a Jackson just by looking...and Prince Michael II (aka Blanket) ain't no Jackson."

Don't forget what Brian Oxman and Mark Lester have said about those kids...and don't forget, as well, that they work for Randy!!!
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Reply #406 posted 11/06/09 3:41pm

mimi07

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MOL said:

tangerine7 said:

heck with Joe! and everybody else jumping on the money wagon. confused
I pray that the three kids have all the smarts Michael out in them Strongly.


Katherine hates those three kids. Remember that she said this; "I can identify a Jackson just by looking...and Prince Michael II (aka Blanket) ain't no Jackson."

Don't forget what Brian Oxman and Mark Lester have said about those kids...and don't forget, as well, that they work for Randy!!!


what the hell are u talking about?
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #407 posted 11/06/09 3:43pm

MOL

mimi07 said:

MOL said:



Katherine hates those three kids. Remember that she said this; "I can identify a Jackson just by looking...and Prince Michael II (aka Blanket) ain't no Jackson."

Don't forget what Brian Oxman and Mark Lester have said about those kids...and don't forget, as well, that they work for Randy!!!


what the hell are u talking about?

Am I bursting your bubble?

What do you want me to say next?... Let's talk about Randy's shady work during MJ's trial.
[Edited 11/6/09 15:44pm]
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Reply #408 posted 11/06/09 3:51pm

angel345

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An article by this lady:





October 16, 2009

RUSKA BERGMAN:The Last DinnerWith Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson's stylist - in her own words The orginal article was written is in Croatian/Serbian and someone was kind enough to translate them.

The last dinner with Michael Jackson

Famous New York stylist who was born in Takov, the woman who enchanted Steven Spielberg, Nicole Kidman and Hilary Clinton, for two and a half years she was inseparable with the tragic King of Pop, who said a month before he left this world’s stage that he will forever be with her.

Written by: Zaneta Apostolovski
Photos: Private Albums


Michael Jackson was never selfish, he shared his love with the whole world, but that he’s the King of Pop – no one truly admitted that till he died. Michael wasn’t a freak, even though so many ugly things and lies were written about him. People simply didn’t understand him just like they didn’t understand Beethoven and Mozart but time has proven that they were musical geniuses as well. Jackson was an amazing artist. He lived in his own world with his music. I’m happy/lucky because I got to be his friend and that he chose me out of all people to be his stylist – says Ruska Bergman, the personal stylist of the late pop icon.



She’s only worked for a few years in New York but she’s already worked with Hilary Clinton, Bjork, Cindy Crawford , Nicole Kidman, Gwyneth Paltrow and many other stars. She’s convinced that Michael Jackson was the most noble and sophisticated person that she worked with.

“I work for the Italian ‘L’Uomo Vogue’, I styled lots of directors, athletes, actors and when we had to pick out a music icon for our photoshoot, I suggested Michael Jackson, so I sent him a letter. I was at the theatre when after three weeks I got a phonecall from his lawyer who said he was calling on behalf of Michael Jackson.” – I was completely caught off guard. I got scared that I did something wrong in the way I contacted him …so I started apologizing. When the lawyer told me that Michael agreed to do the photoshoot, I asked him to repeat that sentence again before I pass out …I called the editor of the magazine right away and told her that Michael Jackson agreed to do the photoshoot.”

According to Ruska, the preparations for this photoshoot were the most intense preparations on the planet.

“I got thousands of girls assisting us but by the end of it we decided on six. Completely impressed with what he saw, Michael simply shouted, “Girls, you are divine!” – but in order for Ruska to hear that sentence she worked very hard for five months.

Even though he was a megastar, Michael never acted like one on the set. He was very professional, he knew that he was working with the best stylists, make-up artists and photographers and he never saw their work as something beneath him.

There were hundreds of people on set. We played his Thriller album, he immediately stood in front of the camera and started dancing and a few moments later everyone was in tears. He had so much energy that I then, and many times later, thought that he must be from a different planet.

Michael Jackson thought the same about Ruska though. He was amazed how much love she put into her work . Because of similar sensibilities, they continued to work together and their professional association quickly turned into friendship. He loved her character and honesty. He appreciated the fact that she was always honest about what she could and couldn’t do as far as her work goes.

The change in Jackson’s style over the last couple of years was very noticeable and noticed by the world media…on the internet blogs, everyone was asking who was behind the new look of this 20th century pop icon; His secret weapon was of course RUSKA BERGMAN!

“He trusted my taste a lot and he used to always tell me to never stop because I’m the most interesting person he’s ever met! When we became friends, he told me when I first showed up on his door in Vegas he could smell the Mediterranean sea on me”


Ruska and Michael were working intensely with one another over the last two years. They saw eachother often and stayed in touch regularly.

“My phone rang on New Years. I picked up the phone and heard someone singing opera. I was completely baffled. I asked who it was and Michael responded, “Who do you think it is?” – He was very shy and I can’t even describe how gentle he was. But his talent, voice, music and charisma can’t be surpassed.”

From the first time they met, Ruska was convinced he was a genius. After that meeting in Vegas, her whole world changed. She walked down the street and suddenly compared to Michael, all the people seemed so ordinary.

“The more I watched him, the more I loved him'', He was simply magic. He was the most noble person in the world. No man on Earth can compare to his inner and outer beauty. I met so many stars, talked to them, worked with them, but no one was even close to Michael’s charisma. He was simply always ahead of everyone else and I can’t believe that my dear friend died sad How can I believe it when we actively worked so much together lately? I was getting the styling ideas ready for the tour, which unfortunately he will never get to do now – and it would’ve been a true spectacle.

According to Forbes magazine, Jackson would’ve earned 2.5 billion dollars from that tour, But he wasn’t too concerned about that. He had over 30 people who took care of everything and he had eleven lawyers, he lived in complete isolation but he was able to see who his true friends are. The moment Ruska came to LA, Michael would call her and sometimes he himself would pick her up at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

“The window of the limo would go down and Michael – guarded by six bodyguards in there – would wave at me and call me over. We loved and respected eachother. He loved everything that I wore, and he always wanted to wear it. He always asked me where I was hiding so long. A man like that will never come by again, but I’m convinced that his music will live for hundreds of years. Everyone copies him, but only when Michael himself showed up would people actually faint.”

The woman who works in the biggest fashion house and gives advice to Tom Ford, Givenchy and many others, she fascinated the King of Pop when it came to how humble she was and her general view when it came to money.

When we had dinner just a month ago, Michael asked me, “Do you know why I love working with you? You never asked me for money. And we never talked about some agreements. You trusted me as I trusted you. I changed six managers in two years. You’re the only person who stuck with me. Everyone else came and went, and you, my dear, will be with me forever.''


The last time she saw him was two weeks before his death. She was at his house five days in a row.

“He was truly beautiful. He didn’t seem depressed or sad at all. He even danced a bit. Didn’t seem to have a care in the world. As always, he was the gentlest person on the planet. It seemed almost as if he was ‘ours’ . I never felt that about anyone aside from ~Steven Spielberg. But Michael was so unusual, his warmth and love completely got me. Everything was just fine. I can’t believe that he’s gone all of a sudden.”

She heard the news about his death while she was in the studio. The moment she heard it she thought she would fall off the chair. The only thing she could possibly say was that it was simply impossible, it can’t be. She couldn’t stop crying for days. All the material and the photographs and data that she has, she’s keeping for the movie, This is It, that’s coming out.

“I know I was very privileged because I had the chance to be so close to him, to see him as a real person. We perfectly understood eachother. I feel sad that the media was so unfair and cruel to him. He didn’t have cancer, his nose wasn’t falling off, all those things are just fabrications, stupidities and lies. The pop icon is among angels right now, but his music will live forever.”

http://www.mj-upbeat.com/...ackson.htm



They look real "close". Karen must have been sooooo jealous. lol
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Yeah, too close confuse Five nights in a row close nod
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Reply #409 posted 11/06/09 3:52pm

mimi07

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MOL said:

mimi07 said:



what the hell are u talking about?

Am I bursting your bubble?

What do you want me to say next?... Let's talk about Randy's shady work during MJ's trial.
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no ur sounding crazy. u post no proof. when did katherine say that... who is margaret?

i didn't ask about randy
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Reply #410 posted 11/06/09 3:54pm

MOL

mimi07 said:

MOL said:


Am I bursting your bubble?

What do you want me to say next?... Let's talk about Randy's shady work during MJ's trial.
[Edited 11/6/09 15:44pm]
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no ur sounding crazy. u post no proof. when did katherine say that... who is margaret?

i didn't ask about randy

Brian Oxman said that in 3/09/2009.
Margaret Maldonaldo is Jermaine's ex-wife.
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Reply #411 posted 11/06/09 4:22pm

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‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #412 posted 11/06/09 4:59pm

tangerine7

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Exactly!^^
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Reply #413 posted 11/06/09 5:13pm

EmeraldSkies

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seeingvoices12 said:

EmeraldSkies said:





TMZ interview with Michael Jackson's closest friend Dr. Arnie Klein

Yeah,he seems like a really close friend to me. What a puke. confused


who the fuck he is? I have been a fan for years and this is the first time i hear of him, and why he appeared now? why now? I don't want to hear anything, enough bullshit already....

Anything regarding Mj’'s personal life is simply unnecessary at this point, cause he is dead, he is gone, its all pointless and unnecessary , I don’t want to hear anything.


He was Michael Dermatologist.
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #414 posted 11/06/09 5:18pm

tangerine7

MOL said:

tangerine7 said:

heck with Joe! and everybody else jumping on the money wagon. confused
I pray that the three kids have all the smarts Michael out in them Strongly.


Katherine hates those three kids. Remember that she said this; "I can identify a Jackson just by looking...and Prince Michael II (aka Blanket) ain't no Jackson."

Don't forget what Brian Oxman and Mark Lester have said about those kids...and don't forget, as well, that they work for Randy!!!


rolleyes
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Reply #415 posted 11/06/09 5:20pm

tangerine7

Did anyone add their picture to the This Is It Mosaic?
I did and It's in there above Michael's hat.
http://www.thisisit-fans.com/
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Reply #416 posted 11/06/09 5:20pm

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Michael Jackson OPUS teaser video

http://www.michaeljackson...aser-video
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #417 posted 11/06/09 5:26pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

tangerine7 said:

MOL said:



Katherine hates those three kids. Remember that she said this; "I can identify a Jackson just by looking...and Prince Michael II (aka Blanket) ain't no Jackson."

Don't forget what Brian Oxman and Mark Lester have said about those kids...and don't forget, as well, that they work for Randy!!!


rolleyes

rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes
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Reply #418 posted 11/06/09 5:46pm

uPtoWnNY

cdcgold said:

joe cracks me up.



i truly believe he's going to die like ceily's daddy in the color purple.

"how he die?"
"(shyly)On top of me"



Geechie Dan LIVES!!! lol

That old lizard's going to outlive us all.
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Reply #419 posted 11/06/09 6:02pm

angel345

uPtoWnNY said:

cdcgold said:

joe cracks me up.



i truly believe he's going to die like ceily's daddy in the color purple.

"how he die?"
"(shyly)On top of me"



Geechie Dan LIVES!!! lol

That old lizard's going to outlive us all.
[Edited 11/6/09 17:56pm]

That girl next to him looks like one of the Spice Girls nod
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