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Reply #210 posted 06/22/09 11:00am

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Timmy84 said:

"Lookin' for a New Love" came out in '86. I think Jody married Andre that same year.


So who was Lauren's dad because she had to have been born in the early 80's. Andre Cymone was a nobody so everybody did NOT know he was a bass player in Prince's band! How long did they date before they got married then? As far as I know Andre is the father of both. Jody didn't have any kids with Jeffrey. On that Unsung the glossed over all the dirt. All of the members were careful not to snitch on the other, so NOBODY would feel a need to sling mud. Jeffery could be Lauren's dad for all we know. Jody might not wanna reveal that!

I felt like he was riding Jody's coat tail! Jody blew up with "Looking for a new love", out of the blue!
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Reply #211 posted 06/22/09 11:06am

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Chic35 said:

Timmy84 said:

"Lookin' for a New Love" came out in '86. I think Jody married Andre that same year.


So who was Lauren's dad because she had to have been born in the early 80's. Andre Cymone was a nobody so everybody did NOT know he was a bass player in Prince's band! How long did they date before they got married then? As far as I know Andre is the father of both. Jody didn't have any kids with Jeffrey.

I felt like he was riding Jody's coat tail! Jody blew up with "Looking for a new love", out of the blue!

Because he was not well known made him a nobody?
Interesting.....
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Reply #212 posted 06/22/09 11:17am

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brooksie said:

Perhaps Jody has a few bad feelings, but I think if people tried to pressure me to have an abortion for their needs...I might be a touch pissed too, even many years after the fact. She was asked about HER experiences and gave them. Those dudes clearly had issues w/ women (Daniel anyone? Hewett "hitting on her"?) so no harm, no foul. I'm not so sure that not wanting to go down memory lane (ie reuniting) is such a bad thing anyway. People have the records and the vids are on YT....so you can get your fix of them young and pretty.


Howard hit her? eek

And people are STILL pulling the broken "Get over it" record outta their asses? disbelief It sounds to me like a "shut the fuck up and be glad you even have a career to begin with" sentiment.

*sigh!*

Well anyway, I already said my peace about this woman. I admire her for re-inventing her career,,,,,and I think longevity that she enjoys now is pretty well-deserved. It just proves that she got a head between those shoulders, and she used it well.

As for lack of Solar royalty checks, well thats why she got her hands full on interpreneurism,,,so, I think Ms.thing won't be hitting the streets anytime soon.
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That's a new one Hewitt hit her? I thought it would be more Jeffery, because he boxed Stephanie Mills. A reunion would be a disaster waiting to happen!
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Reply #213 posted 06/22/09 11:25am

Graycap23

Chic35 said:

Harlepolis said:



Howard hit her? eek

And people are STILL pulling the broken "Get over it" record outta their asses? disbelief It sounds to me like a "shut the fuck up and be glad you even have a career to begin with" sentiment.

*sigh!*

Well anyway, I already said my peace about this woman. I admire her for re-inventing her career,,,,,and I think longevity that she enjoys now is pretty well-deserved. It just proves that she got a head between those shoulders, and she used it well.

As for lack of Solar royalty checks, well thats why she got her hands full on interpreneurism,,,so, I think Ms.thing won't be hitting the streets anytime soon.
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That's a new one Hewitt hit her? I thought it would be more Jeffery, because he boxed Stephanie Mills. A reunion would be a disaster waiting to happen!

Hit "ON" her.....
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Reply #214 posted 06/22/09 11:30am

Timmy84

Jody and Andre were together until 1996.
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Reply #215 posted 06/22/09 11:34am

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Is there gonna be an Unsung episode on Zapp/Roger Troutman ?
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Reply #216 posted 06/22/09 11:34am

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Timmy84 said:

daPrettyman said:


According to what I've found online, they got married in 91.

Looking for a new Love came out in 87.


Ooh I thought LFANL was out in late '86, I guess you can say '87, lol. I read 1989 when they married but maybe that was a typo, I forgot myself.


Timmy you stand correct. I have the 12 inch single and album in front of me.
I had a friend who worked for MCA records in the 80's and i got a
lot of promos. Apparently the single was released the latter part of
1986 but the album was released in 1987.
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Reply #217 posted 06/22/09 11:39am

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No one said Jody had kids with Jeffrey and everyone on this board knows who Andre is-he was Prince's best friend growing up. If you are going to post, get your facts straight instead of spreading lies and half truths. I highly doubt Jeffrey is Lauren's dad. Where do you come up with your delusions?
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Reply #218 posted 06/22/09 11:40am

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Graycap23 said:

Chic35 said:



That's a new one Hewitt hit her? I thought it would be more Jeffery, because he boxed Stephanie Mills. A reunion would be a disaster waiting to happen!

Hit "ON" her.....


I wasn't going to say anything but that's how some people get things
twisted before actually reading a statement. I was wondering how it
jumped from internal conflict to Jody getting abused physically by
Howard Hewitt. lol
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Reply #219 posted 06/22/09 11:41am

Timmy84

phunkdaddy said:

Timmy84 said:



Ooh I thought LFANL was out in late '86, I guess you can say '87, lol. I read 1989 when they married but maybe that was a typo, I forgot myself.


Timmy you stand correct. I have the 12 inch single and album in front of me.
I had a friend who worked for MCA records in the 80's and i got a
lot of promos. Apparently the single was released the latter part of
1986 but the album was released in 1987.


I figured that much. nod
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Reply #220 posted 06/22/09 11:41am

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Harlepolis said:

brooksie said:

Perhaps Jody has a few bad feelings, but I think if people tried to pressure me to have an abortion for their needs...I might be a touch pissed too, even many years after the fact. She was asked about HER experiences and gave them. Those dudes clearly had issues w/ women (Daniel anyone? Hewett "hitting on her"?) so no harm, no foul. I'm not so sure that not wanting to go down memory lane (ie reuniting) is such a bad thing anyway. People have the records and the vids are on YT....so you can get your fix of them young and pretty.


Howard hit her? eek

And people are STILL pulling the broken "Get over it" record outta their asses? disbelief It sounds to me like a "shut the fuck up and be glad you even have a career to begin with" sentiment.

*sigh!*

Well anyway, I already said my peace about this woman. I admire her for re-inventing her career,,,,,and I think longevity that she enjoys now is pretty well-deserved. It just proves that she got a head between those shoulders, and she used it well.

As for lack of Solar royalty checks, well thats why she got her hands full on interpreneurism,,,so, I think Ms.thing won't be hitting the streets anytime soon.
[Edited 6/22/09 3:58am]


No Howard "hit on her" meaning Howard was making passes at her, by his own admission. How far he went and how long it went on for is anybody's guess, but since Howard himself brought it up as one of the problems in the group it must have been hellish for Jody. confused

I put that in quotes because that's exactly the phrase Howard used.

I DO NOT think he was physically abusive to Jody, but sexually (as in sexual harassment) yes I do.
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Reply #221 posted 06/22/09 11:42am

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No one said Jody had kids with Jeffrey and everyone on this board knows who Andre is-he was Prince's best friend growing up. If you are going to post, get your facts straight instead of spreading lies and half truths. I highly doubt Jeffrey is Lauren's dad. Where do you come up with your delusions?
[Edited 6/22/09 11:40am]


Yeah that was a little confusing. This was about SHALAMAR anyway. If it was just JODY then maybe more would've spread about the situation but seeing how Jody HATES to talk about the bad things about her personal life, it was unlikely to be mentioned anyway.

@SilverlakePhil, I think Roger's episode will come on this fall alongside Bobby Womack's.
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Reply #222 posted 06/22/09 11:49am

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Timmy84 said:

scriptgirl said:

No one said Jody had kids with Jeffrey and everyone on this board knows who Andre is-he was Prince's best friend growing up. If you are going to post, get your facts straight instead of spreading lies and half truths. I highly doubt Jeffrey is Lauren's dad. Where do you come up with your delusions?
[Edited 6/22/09 11:40am]


Yeah that was a little confusing. This was about SHALAMAR anyway. If it was just JODY then maybe more would've spread about the situation but seeing how Jody HATES to talk about the bad things about her personal life, it was unlikely to be mentioned anyway.

@SilverlakePhil, I think Roger's episode will come on this fall alongside Bobby Womack's.


LOOK DEBARGE FANATIC!!! I NEVER said Jeffery was Lauren's father either it's a possibility that he could be. I believed Andre Cymone to be her dad. This ain't your specialty either your all about the Debarges remember!!! Andre Cymone was a nobody and who gives a damn about him being Prince's bestfriend?

Get a life, I am done arguing over this dumb shit!

Are you PISSED OFF that your DEBARGE shrine is locked???? lol
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Reply #223 posted 06/22/09 11:51am

Timmy84

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ANYWAY, I'm gonna see if Flo Ballard's "Unsung" snippets have been posted yet...
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Reply #224 posted 06/22/09 11:51am

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Chic35 said:

Timmy84 said:

"Lookin' for a New Love" came out in '86. I think Jody married Andre that same year.


So who was Lauren's dad because she had to have been born in the early 80's. Andre Cymone was a nobody so everybody did NOT know he was a bass player in Prince's band! How long did they date before they got married then? As far as I know Andre is the father of both. Jody didn't have any kids with Jeffrey. On that Unsung the glossed over all the dirt. All of the members were careful not to snitch on the other, so NOBODY would feel a need to sling mud. Jeffery could be Lauren's dad for all we know. Jody might not wanna reveal that!

I felt like he was riding Jody's coat tail! Jody blew up with "Looking for a new love", out of the blue!
[Edited 6/22/09 11:28am]


This is the 2nd time this season where clearly the oldest child is NOT the hubby's but nobody is saying who it is. shrug

Andre Cymone was known back then IF you were into Prince stuff, but many people were. He wasn't some coattail rider of Jody, but a respected artist in his own right. They dated several years before they married, exactly how long I couldn't tell you.
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Reply #225 posted 06/22/09 11:59am

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Chic35 said:

Timmy84 said:



Yeah that was a little confusing. This was about SHALAMAR anyway. If it was just JODY then maybe more would've spread about the situation but seeing how Jody HATES to talk about the bad things about her personal life, it was unlikely to be mentioned anyway.

@SilverlakePhil, I think Roger's episode will come on this fall alongside Bobby Womack's.


LOOK DEBARGE FANATIC!!! I NEVER said Jeffery was Lauren's father either it's a possibility that he could be. I believed Andre Cymone to be her dad. This ain't your specialty either your all about the Debarges remember!!! Andre Cymone was a nobody and who gives a damn about him being Prince's bestfriend?

Get a life, I am done arguing over this dumb shit!

Are you PISSED OFF that your DEBARGE shrine is locked???? lol
[Edited 6/22/09 11:52am]


"Conventional wisdom" says it was Leon Sylvers who was girl's daddy, but of course...who knows? Jeffery Daniel is not thought to be the kid's father or should I say grown woman's? wink Andre Cymone is the son's father as far as can be guessed!
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Reply #226 posted 06/22/09 12:01pm

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brooksie said:

Chic35 said:



So who was Lauren's dad because she had to have been born in the early 80's. Andre Cymone was a nobody so everybody did NOT know he was a bass player in Prince's band! How long did they date before they got married then? As far as I know Andre is the father of both. Jody didn't have any kids with Jeffrey. On that Unsung the glossed over all the dirt. All of the members were careful not to snitch on the other, so NOBODY would feel a need to sling mud. Jeffery could be Lauren's dad for all we know. Jody might not wanna reveal that!

I felt like he was riding Jody's coat tail! Jody blew up with "Looking for a new love", out of the blue!
[Edited 6/22/09 11:28am]


This is the 2nd time this season where clearly the oldest child is NOT the hubby's but nobody is saying who it is. shrug

Andre Cymone was known back then IF you were into Prince stuff, but many people were. He wasn't some coattail rider of Jody, but a respected artist in his own right. They dated several years before they married, exactly how long I couldn't tell you.



I REALLY don't give a fat rats ass about who fathered Jody Watley's children. If it pissed Scripy girl off that is humorous enough! The Debarge shrine is gone now she ain't got no more pictures to post up from the Debarge Network!


I love Jody's music and don't really give a damn about Andre Cymone.
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Reply #227 posted 06/22/09 12:02pm

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brooksie said:

Chic35 said:



LOOK DEBARGE FANATIC!!! I NEVER said Jeffery was Lauren's father either it's a possibility that he could be. I believed Andre Cymone to be her dad. This ain't your specialty either your all about the Debarges remember!!! Andre Cymone was a nobody and who gives a damn about him being Prince's bestfriend?

Get a life, I am done arguing over this dumb shit!

Are you PISSED OFF that your DEBARGE shrine is locked???? lol
[Edited 6/22/09 11:52am]


"Conventional wisdom" says it was Leon Sylvers who was girl's daddy, but of course...who knows? Jeffery Daniel is not thought to be the kid's father or should I say grown woman's? wink Andre Cymone is the son's father as far as can be guessed!


I'd forgotten about Leon!
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Reply #228 posted 06/22/09 12:16pm

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^^^ Leon was someone else they glossed over and mentioned quickly, but he was very involved w/ Shalamar's music.
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Reply #229 posted 06/22/09 12:17pm

Timmy84

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^^^ Leon was someone else they glossed over and mentioned quickly, but he was very involved w/ Shalamar's music.


Right. You always heard about Shalamar or Dick Griffey when it came to SOLAR but you never hear about Leon, he was basically SOLAR's right hand man!
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Reply #230 posted 06/22/09 12:23pm

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Chic, are you pissed that once again, you were called out that your facts were wrong? Andre was not a nobody-he is very talented and did a lot of nice solo stuff, including his smash hit, "Dance Electric" which Prince wrote. I would also think twice before calling someone like Andre, who happened to be a major player in the Minneapolis scene a nobody on a Prince board. And of course you cared about who is Lauren's father or else you wouldn't have brought it up, along with your usual mix of lies and rumors.
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Reply #231 posted 06/22/09 12:28pm

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Chic, are you pissed that once again, you were called out that your facts were wrong? Andre was not a nobody-he is very talented and did a lot of nice solo stuff, including his smash hit, "Dance Electric" which Prince wrote. I would also think twice before calling someone like Andre, who happened to be a major player in the Minneapolis scene a nobody on a Prince board. And of course you cared about who is Lauren's father or else you wouldn't have brought it up, along with your usual mix of lies and rumors.
[Edited 6/22/09 12:24pm]


Okay scripy girl do you have proof Yolanda "DUCKIE" of the Debarges died of a crack overdose? You spread lies yourself!

Andre Cymone was a nobody and by you draggin this on your looking like one too!

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Reply #232 posted 06/22/09 12:39pm

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Andre Cymone was wack!
Shalamar was wack as hell!
All of you have contradicting marriage dates of Jody and Andre!
There will NEVER be reunion!
In a nutshell who gives a fuck!

blahblah
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Reply #233 posted 06/22/09 12:40pm

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Chic, are you pissed that once again, you were called out that your facts were wrong? Andre was not a nobody-he is very talented and did a lot of nice solo stuff, including his smash hit, "Dance Electric" which Prince wrote. I would also think twice before calling someone like Andre, who happened to be a major player in the Minneapolis scene a nobody on a Prince board. And of course you cared about who is Lauren's father or else you wouldn't have brought it up, along with your usual mix of lies and rumors.
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Would you really consider "Dance Electric" a "smash"? Hit maybe, but definitely not a smash.

I agree that Andre was known outside of being Prince's bass player. At the time when Andre hooked up with Jody, he was already producing and writing for others.

My main question is does anyone some of Andre's early stuff he produced and wrote for others? I know he did "Love/Hate" for Pebbles. It appeared on the Beverly Hills Cop soundtrack. Was it something before that?
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Reply #234 posted 06/22/09 12:44pm

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Andre Cymone was wack!
Shalamar was wack as hell!
All of you have contradicting marriage dates of Jody and Andre!
There will NEVER be reunion!
In a nutshell who gives a fuck!

blahblah

Shalamar was not "wack". It's one thing to not be a fan of their music, and another thing to disrespect them. Not cool.

We are fans of Shalamar. If you would listen to their music and know the history of the group and their significance in black music history, you'd know why we are discussing this topic. Shalamar gave us two great singers and a dancer that changed the history of choreography. Now, can you honestly say they were "wack"? Please!
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Reply #235 posted 06/22/09 12:50pm

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Countthedays said:

Andre Cymone was wack!
Shalamar was wack as hell!
All of you have contradicting marriage dates of Jody and Andre!
There will NEVER be reunion!
In a nutshell who gives a fuck!

blahblah

Shalamar was not "wack". It's one thing to not be a fan of their music, and another thing to disrespect them. Not cool.

We are fans of Shalamar. If you would listen to their music and know the history of the group and their significance in black music history, you'd know why we are discussing this topic. Shalamar gave us two great singers and a dancer that changed the history of choreography. Now, can you honestly say they were "wack"? Please!


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Reply #236 posted 06/22/09 12:57pm

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Ok...let's say Andre Cymone was known more in the rnb world than in crossover/pop world. Some of Prince's little "family" groups and people didn't get much mainstream fame, but they weren't complete unknowns either.
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Reply #237 posted 06/22/09 12:57pm

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Chic, are you pissed that once again, you were called out that your facts were wrong? Andre was not a nobody-he is very talented and did a lot of nice solo stuff, including his smash hit, "Dance Electric" which Prince wrote. I would also think twice before calling someone like Andre, who happened to be a major player in the Minneapolis scene a nobody on a Prince board. And of course you cared about who is Lauren's father or else you wouldn't have brought it up, along with your usual mix of lies and rumors.
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Looks like you were called out on your facts as well.
Dance Electric wasn't a smash hit! lol
You guys crack me up pointing fingers!
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Reply #238 posted 06/22/09 1:12pm

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Andre had a female group called "The Girls". There is a vid of one of their songs on youtube or was. Might not be there any longer
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Reply #239 posted 06/22/09 3:01pm

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Is it just me or did Daniel get a nose job? People were saying something's "off" about his face and that may be just it. When he was young, his nose looked far bigger than it does now.
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