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Printablebrooksie said: scriptgirl said: What this about Jeffrey Daniels putting the smackdown on his then wife Stephanie Mills?
They had a short and turbulant marriage. It was rumored that he beat her. I don't know how this info got around, but that was the general belief about their relationship. Yeah,I have heard that he was very abusive to Stephanie when they were married  | |
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TonyVanDam said: SoulAlive said: Howard Hewitt really dogged Jody and Jeffrey
I remember in 1983 when they left the group (shortly after "Dead Giveaway" became a big hit),he paraded the new member around (Micki Free) and the two of them held a highly publicized "audition" to replace Jody Watley.This was covered in magazines like Black Beat and Right On!.Worse of all,he filmed a video for "Over And Over" (the last single that featured Howard,Jody and Jeffrey) as a solo performance! It's as if he's saying "See? I don't need you losers".
Howard was acting as if Jody and Jeffrey were easily replaceable but karma has a way of catching up to people.The "new" Shalamar released the album 'Heartbreak' in 1984 and it bombed.Howard pursued a solo career,but Jody got the last laugh when her own solo album was released in 1987.It went platinum,had a whopping five hit singles,and won her a Grammy for Best New Artist. The album might have bombed, but that album did get them 2 more smash singles: Yeah,they had a few hits.But when Howard left in 1985,the group was pretty much finished.They tried to make Micki Free the leader but there was one problem: he can't sing  His lead vocals on "Games" and "Circumstantial Evidence" are atrocious. | |
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bboy87 said: scriptgirl said: Did Jody even have that huge a presence in the media in her heyday?
Jody was pretty big Yeah she was huge.Her first solo album had like,five or six hot singles.Those songs were all over the radio in 1987/88....on the R&B and pop stations.Her follow-up album 'Larger Than Life' in 1989 was also very successful. When she left Shalamar in 1983,she wisely took her time before launching a solo career.She didn't rush things.She went to Europe for a few years,developed a new look and style,then came back to America and kicked ass in 1987. | |
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bboy87 said: SoulAlive said: Howard Hewitt really dogged Jody and Jeffrey
I remember in 1983 when they left the group (shortly after "Dead Giveaway" became a big hit),he paraded the new member around (Micki Free) and the two of them held a highly publicized "audition" to replace Jody Watley.This was covered in magazines like Black Beat and Right On!.Worse of all,he filmed a video for "Over And Over" (the last single that featured Howard,Jody and Jeffrey) as a solo performance! It's as if he's saying "See? I don't need you losers".
Howard was acting as if Jody and Jeffrey were easily replaceable but karma has a way of catching up to people.The "new" Shalamar released the album 'Heartbreak' in 1984 and it bombed.Howard pursued a solo career,but Jody got the last laugh when her own solo album was released in 1987.It went platinum,had a whopping five hit singles,and won her a Grammy for Best New Artist. what in the hell is Micki Free wearing?   I'll say it again... WHAT WAS MICKI WEARING?! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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SoulAlive said: bboy87 said: Jody was pretty big Yeah she was huge.Her first solo album had like,five or six hot singles.Those songs were all over the radio in 1987/88....on the R&B and pop stations.Her follow-up album 'Larger Than Life' in 1989 was also very successful. When she left Shalamar in 1983,she wisely took her time before launching a solo career.She didn't rush things.She went to Europe for a few years,developed a new look and style,then came back to America and kicked ass in 1987. Yeah Jody was definitely smart in what she did. I've noticed that some artists after experiencing some success and failure will go overseas and then come back and get POPULAR! | |
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SoulAlive said: TonyVanDam said: The album might have bombed, but that album did get them 2 more smash singles: Yeah,they had a few hits.But when Howard left in 1985,the group was pretty much finished.They tried to make Micki Free the leader but there was one problem: he can't sing His lead vocals on "Games" and "Circumstantial Evidence" are atrocious.Yeah, the tracks pretty much carried the songs. I liked those songs back then. I am not sure what's wrong, but it's probably your fault! | |
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it's coming on soon lol , i'm going to have to wait for this user on youtube to upload it. | |
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MIkki Free is still coolllll !!!!
Chec the photo with him and Vanity | |
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Why does Micki Free look like B Scott?! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Wait a minute, Shalamar was the SECOND black act after Michael on MTV?
I always thought Prince was... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: Wait a minute, Shalamar was the SECOND black act after Michael on MTV?
I always thought Prince was... You learn something new, don't you? | |
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bboy87 said: Why does Micki Free look like B Scott?!
OH.....MY..... GODDDDD | |
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The special was good tho I missed the first twelve minutes.  Oh well there's 11. | |
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Well my conclusion after watching this is blame Howard ! and Jody YOU PROVED YOU WERE/ARE A COMPLETE TRIPLE THREAT !
style/singing/dancing as well as a writer !  | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: Wait a minute, Shalamar was the SECOND black act after Michael on MTV?
I always thought Prince was... You learn something new, don't you? Maybe Dick Griffy was lying.... He said that the BMA boycotted MTV and fought to get Mike on there, then Shalamar followed him "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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I always heard or assumed Prince was the 2nd black act n tv after motown "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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bboy87 said: Wait a minute, Shalamar was the SECOND black act after Michael on MTV?
I always thought Prince was... lol,there is always some confusion about it.I watched MTV from the beginning and the first black artists I saw were... "Billie Jean" Michael Jackson "Little Red Corvette" Prince "Electric Avenue" Eddie Grant Those 3 videos were added in early 1983.In the summer of 83,they added: "She Works Hard For The Money" Donna Summer "Dead Giveaaway" Shalamar So yeah,it's a stretch to imply that Shalamar were the second black act to be shown on MTV. | |
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SoulAlive said: bboy87 said: Wait a minute, Shalamar was the SECOND black act after Michael on MTV?
I always thought Prince was... lol,there is always some confusion about it.I watched MTV from the beginning and the first black artists I saw were... "Billie Jean" Michael Jackson "Little Red Corvette" Prince "Electric Avenue" Eddie Grant Those 3 videos were added in early 1983.In the summer of 83,they added: "She Works Hard For The Money" Donna Summer "Dead Giveaaway" Shalamar So yeah,it's a stretch to imply that Shalamar were the second black act to be shown on MTV. could it be they had it in light rotation? we know they banned Rick's outspoken ass "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Timmy84 said: The special was good tho I missed the first twelve minutes.
Oh well there's 11. Yep it was... Mr. Hewitt groveling just a bit would you say? :lol | |
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was it good everyone? | |
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Micki Free was hot as hell back in the day.
Jefferey Daniels seems off and what rock did that Delisa chick crawl out from under. That was one of the worst weaves ever "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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babybugz said: was it good everyone?
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scriptgirl said:[quote]Micki Free was hot as hell back in the day.
Jefferey Daniels seems off and what rock did that Delisa chick crawl out from under. That was one of the worst weaves ever[/quote] Damn and jeffery looks like he's been on drugs | |
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What the hell was that accent Jeffery was speaking??? Negro, you're from L.A.!!! JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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okay, now i know the problem with this series, they need to hire some real film makers and interviewers. this show didn't teach me anything new about Shalamar. I found myself bored as hell...the few new juicy bits (like jody's pregnancy) are lightly touched on and then thrown away...a real director and interviewer would probe and find more on the topic.
oh well, it was fun hearing all the old songs and seeing how horrid Jeff Daniels and Howard Hewitt look. What has changed with Daniels' face? He looks odd now. Hewitt just looks like the pimp he has always looked...but instead of working mainstreet he'd be working East Oakland. Space for sale... | |
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well jody said she had a feeling some things were going to be cut ..she said on her twitter. | |
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Paris9748430 said: What the hell was that accent Jeffery was speaking??? Negro, you're from L.A.!!!
lol I thought he caught the Madonna syndrone..... since he lived in London that might be the reason for his made up accent | |
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SoulAlive said: bboy87 said: Wait a minute, Shalamar was the SECOND black act after Michael on MTV?
I always thought Prince was... lol,there is always some confusion about it.I watched MTV from the beginning and the first black artists I saw were... "Billie Jean" Michael Jackson "Little Red Corvette" Prince "Electric Avenue" Eddie Grant Those 3 videos were added in early 1983.In the summer of 83,they added: "She Works Hard For The Money" Donna Summer "Dead Giveaaway" Shalamar So yeah,it's a stretch to imply that Shalamar were the second black act to be shown on MTV. Musical Youth's "Pass The Dutchie" was also a very early Black video in rotation. | |
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TD3 said: Timmy84 said: The special was good tho I missed the first twelve minutes.
Oh well there's 11. Yep it was... Mr. Hewitt groveling just a bit would you say? :lol That's what I thought too. | |
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